Mike Glennon Is Your “Mentor”
May 18th, 2015
All this talk about mentors borders on nonsense. Mentor this and mentor that. Who is going to be that guy’s mentor?
What the hell are you paying a coaching staff for if you need a scrub player to be coaching up a starter? Geez, folks. Quick, who was Jim Kelly’s mentor? Or John Elway? Or Andrew Luck?
Was Tavaras Jackson really that much of an asset for Russell Wilson? C’mon.
But, since it is an ugly Monday morning (is there such a thing as a non-ugly Monday morning?), Joe will play along. So this season, Bucs fans can be secure in the fact that “America’s Quarterback,” Bucs signal-caller Jameis Winston, will have Mike Glennon as his mentor.
That’s the word from Pat Yasinskas of ESPN, when asked in a Twitter Q&A what veteran will the Bucs get to mentor young Jameis? The answer is already on the roster.
@PatYazESPN: Every indication I have received is that the Bucs are content to go with Jameis Winston and Mike Glennon. Yes, they’re two very young quarterbacks, but Glennon is mature and has 18 career starts. The Bucs think he can be a valuable resource for Winston and also believe he is enough of a team player to embrace a backup role. In addition, the situation on the coaching staff is a lot different this year. Last year, Josh McCown was a year older than quarterbacks coach Marcus Arroyo. The coaching staff took a major hit when coordinator Jeff Tedford needed heart surgery in the preseason and didn’t return to the team. Arroyo was forced into the role as the playcaller while still coaching the quarterbacks. It made for a difficult situation for all involved. Things should be a lot smoother this year with coordinator Dirk Koetter and an experienced quarterbacks coach in Mike Bajakian.
Again, Joe is going to play along here. First, Glennon is a good dude, a good teammate. Joe doesn’t expect him to give Jameis the silent treatment that, say, Brett Favre used to give his backups including Aaron Rodgers. Joe senses if Glennon was that type of guy, the Bucs may have acquired some other backup.
Glennon has enough games under his belt, and been through the fire himself as a rookie quarterback; he should be able to guide Jameis through the rough waters until young Jameis himself feels comfortable in the deep end of the pool by himself.
May 18th, 2015 at 9:14 am
Rub a dub scrub, happy to have Glennon as a mentor and backup to America’s QB. It could be worse, imo.
May 18th, 2015 at 9:16 am
Mike Glennon “America’s Backup Quarterback”
May 18th, 2015 at 9:24 am
Actually, Glennon would be “America’s Backup Quarterback of the Future.”
May 18th, 2015 at 9:26 am
As long as Mr. 5-13 does not see the field Bucs will be fine.
May 18th, 2015 at 9:29 am
Glennon seems like a good dude.
There’s nothing in the world wrong with being a backup quarterback in the NFL for a lot of years. He’s going to make a lot of money – more than most of us ever will – and have life choices after football near limitless.
I’d love, absolutely love, to see him stick around Tampa for the next ten years playing the “Kubiak role.”
Good for him.
May 18th, 2015 at 9:40 am
Although Winston seems likely to be an impressive rookie – with real leadership ability, I am glad Glennon is still on the team. I think he would have a much better record with a decent OL – something he has never enjoyed.
May 18th, 2015 at 9:41 am
I would prefer to sign another QB. One who has actually had success in the league—it’s hard to be a mentor when you’ve never had an success in the league. It’s like Christian Ponder being a mentor to Bridgewater.
May 18th, 2015 at 9:50 am
lol hilarious…..you had guys like deon sanders and derrick brooks and all these football greats in your corner talking to you throughout this entire process only to have a scrub named mike glennon who you came in and beat out in rookie mini camp be your mentor hahaha. I guess if glennon has to be talked about why not try and add to his trade value. McCoy and others can teach a franchise qb how to be a pro, cant learn that from a scrub player he hasn’t even done a radio show lol
May 18th, 2015 at 9:52 am
If Glennon is teaching America’s QB about those 11 step drops, we may be in trouble!
May 18th, 2015 at 9:57 am
even with glennon being his mentor Jaboo will nver DUCK out of bounds before a first down. that is the mike glennon defining moment. that’s when 8’s teammates new he was NOT the guy.
May 18th, 2015 at 9:59 am
The two most important characteristics of a backup quarterback are ….staying healthy & good attitude…..Glennon “America’s Backup QB” has both….
May 18th, 2015 at 10:03 am
characteristics of a backup quarterback hahahaha….it took drafting a quarterback for a lot of people to finally admit glennon is below average
May 18th, 2015 at 10:36 am
lol
a was not aware so many people now say Glennon is average. and if so, I would think it might be more due to the $hit show the OL, the OC and HC put on last year than drafting the #1 pic with more off the field issues than any one picked 1st in the history of the draft.
maybe Glennon can teach him to use an ATM card or carry cash.
May 18th, 2015 at 10:58 am
Joe…we all have/had “mentors” in our lives. A “mentor” is defined as “an experienced counselor or advisor. Someone who guides others to greater success.” Just what is it exactly that upsets you with the thought that young Jameis might want/need/benefit from this type of guidance? Are you saying Winston is already so good that he needs no such help?
May 18th, 2015 at 11:02 am
It’s funny how so many people have already crowned JW as the next coming of Andrew Luck. I’m not against the guy because I’m a Bucs fan and of course want him to succeed in a huge way. The problem is he hasn’t even started to practice with the MEN yet. Hanging out passing the ball to other college rookies isn’t what I’d call a good way to measure what he can or will do. I’m sure Ryan Leaf looked great in his don’t touch me practice jersey on.
May 18th, 2015 at 11:09 am
I cant let a rookie moment define Glennon’s career. That would be foolish. If Glennon dosent turn into a diva and can realize his limitations, he can be in this league a long time. Who knows, his day to take over an offense may come.
Jameis is alot more talented than Glennon but he hasnt been through it yet. Glennon knows how hard some of these men can hit. He knows how fast and smart these players are. I think the world of Jameis but he has yet to be “welcomed” into the league. Glennon has and it looked painful.
May 18th, 2015 at 11:18 am
Funny how some people talk but then worry about the line keeping Winston off the ground. Or him needing to run for his life. Did anyone stop to think Jameis may also help Glennon? No they just want him off the team period. Wll some of us are glad they are both here.
May 18th, 2015 at 11:33 am
Tmaxcon- you nailed that. Glennon bailing out of bounds on that play was a defining moment.
May 18th, 2015 at 11:54 am
Glennon might not be the most talented QB, but all indications were he was smart and had a hell of a work ethic. That’s all a mentor needs to have, he’s someone that can show Jameis how to prepare in the NFL. He has a good amount of experience learning new offenses and I’m sure he knows a good bit about the defenses in the NFC South.
He isn’t going to coach Jameis on how to throw or take drops, but he can help in the class room and keep him on track with his preparation.
May 18th, 2015 at 11:57 am
I don’t know what the heck MG was thinking when he jumped out of bounds. horrible, perhaps a defining moment.
but had that been said about vjax when he was run down from behind at the one he would be gone.
either way, i am sure that sealed the deal for MG
May 18th, 2015 at 11:58 am
Smh. Glennon was better than freeman at the time and was always better than mccown. No one ever said mgm was a probowler but we did say he was better than mclown. Fact!
Winston hasn’t done anything yet except practice with a slew of first round draft picks that are starters I the NFL. Hell Dante fowler went 3rd overall and winston kicked his a$$.
Ya’ll ain’t ready. I’m telling you ya’ll not ready.
May 18th, 2015 at 12:01 pm
Yeah, I’m sure Jameis will respect Glennon as a mentor.
May 18th, 2015 at 12:08 pm
Frank Reich was a 3rd rounder that ended up being the backup for Jim Kelly after Kelly left the USFL… Kelly wasn’t exactly true rookie when he came to the league and was acutally 2 years older than Reiach but they formed one of the longest-tenured backup-and-starter tandems, playing together for nine years… if this same scenario unfolds for the Bucs it would be great continuity and security for the team
May 18th, 2015 at 12:17 pm
Hey glennon did a lot considering the team he had around him. It won’t be a cake walk for 3 to beat him out
May 18th, 2015 at 12:24 pm
Glendon can advise Winston on the post-Raheem version of What would Josh Freeman do? Then Winston should do the opposite.
May 18th, 2015 at 1:19 pm
Talk Jason Campbell out of retirement, and sign him as the teams 3rd QB.
He’s been in the league for 10yrs, and played in ever system under the sun.
No off the field problems.
I’ve always felt that he was the quarterback that Gruden missed out on, not Aaron Rodgers. Gruden raved about his poise and accuracy at the Senior Bowl that year, after coaching the South team.
Personally I’ve always thought the dude got a raw deal. Out of the gates, he had like 6 or 7 different Head Coach/ Offensive Coordinators combinations. He never got a chance to settle in one system for more than a year.
Who know’s how good this guy could’ve been in a structured environment. Such is life I guess.
Sign’em Licht
May 18th, 2015 at 1:21 pm
*He’s played in every system under the sun
May 18th, 2015 at 1:27 pm
LUVMYBUCS
i like that idea. he has played for every oc in the league at some-point LOL… In reality if this team has to go to a back up even for a few games it will be ugly. America’s Quarterback needs to stay healthy.
May 18th, 2015 at 1:29 pm
The Glennon haters can hang onto that one play and ignore the moments after, when Glennon animatedly argued (almost to the point of a flag) about where the BALL was when he went out. Unfortunately, he went out on the ‘auxiliary’ side of the field and it doesn’t always match the ‘official’ ‘line-to-gain’.
The defining moment that I will always remember is when he threw the winning touchdown IN Pittsburgh while three defenders were bearing down on him (TWO of them unblocked). Yes, he was plastered to the ground, but he waited until the receiver was open, and took the hit.
That is one the things I loved about Brad Johnson. He wasn’t the greatest QB, but if he thought there was a chance that a receiver would come open before he was smacked to the ground, he would wait and take the lick, for the sake of the pass, instead of curling up in the fetal position.
May 18th, 2015 at 1:29 pm
@tmaxcon
Once again, U ain’t neva lied
May 18th, 2015 at 1:33 pm
Didn’t the 2014 Bucs have a QB who “…played in ever system under the sun”? How’d that work out? Not saying it can’t turn out good, just sayin’…
May 18th, 2015 at 2:45 pm
ive seen him throw the ball away on forth down that’s another moment
May 18th, 2015 at 2:58 pm
Joe,
Dude, your shallow comparisons are very very frustrating at times. I know you’re just a clickbait-y website with more website slowing advertisements than truly any other website I enjoy visiting but let me debunk your mentor comparison.
1. Jim Kelly was 26 by the time he entered the NFL. He went 4-12 his rookie season
2. John Elway had Steve DeBerg a six year veteran, a one time starter who had played with Joe Montana and Bill Walsh the year before….oh and Elway had a losing record and threw twice as many picks as TD’s
3. Andrew Luck had Matt Hasselbeck A super Bowl appearing QB with what like 18 years of NFL experience.
May 18th, 2015 at 3:06 pm
Glennon is a backup period. I don’t even know why this is even a discussion. Anybody who thinks differently really has no idea what a franchise/starting caliber qb looks like. Its not totally your fault though because you are a buc fan and that is understandable. Let me make it easy for you, Glennon is not a starting caliber qb. If he was, then his own teammates would not have been texting L & L asking them to draft Winston. That alone should tell all you Glennon supporters all you need to know but some of you are just blind and confused. I don’t know why because it is clear as day. Glennon is a back up. Its as simple as that.
May 18th, 2015 at 3:18 pm
Neither the original tweet nor Yasinskas’ response mentioned the word “mentor.” The question, and the answer, was purely about the backup QB situation.
All this “mentor” talk is just Joe going off on some wild tangent that’s unrelated to the very content he references in his own post.
May 18th, 2015 at 4:04 pm
@chiickster
So would you rather he force it for a pick 6 or maybe a sack fumble and run back? You don’t take any chance the ball gets away. Throw it away and let the defense do it’s job.
May 18th, 2015 at 4:16 pm
It also depended on where he was on the field and the orders he had.
May 18th, 2015 at 4:18 pm
america’s qb = tom brady!
jameis christ is our qb and savior
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funny b1tchin about glennon and mentors but jameis is ‘merica’s qb…lol
guess we see different things as silly.
May 18th, 2015 at 9:03 pm
Mike Glennon…still the best NFL QB stats of any QB drafted since 2013. Bills should make a play for Glennon after they cut the FSU guy they wasted a first round pick on in 2013. Bet the Bills and the Jets both wish they had drafted that supposed career backup guy Glennon instead of the turds they did.
May 18th, 2015 at 9:12 pm
I would prefer to sign another QB. One who has actually had success in the league
What the hell are you guys talking about? Freaking Josh McCown is still considered “successful”. Who the eff wouldn’t prefer a QB with success in the NFL. If we had signed a QB with “success in the league” last year we wouldn’t have qualified to pick Fameis!!!!! EVERY team want’s a QB with success in the league.
And then I hear freaking Jason Campbell’s name!!! Success in the league. In over 70 tries Campbell is a proven LOSER!!! Using Celly’s metric Campbell has won 40% of his starts versus Glennon’s 38%. Glennon got his 38% with the freaking worst team in football.
Man the grass is always greener somewhere else eh? Even if it’s covered with manure like Jason Campbell’s actual record. Campbell actuallyhad a chance some of thsoe years.
Some of you need to hit Starbucks for a triple espressso so you can wake up and smell the coffee. There areNO QBS with successful records just hanging around out there
May 19th, 2015 at 6:25 am
It’s simple psychology, Joe, but I guess you were swilling beer during that class in college.
People tend to respond more readily and better to advice from their peers. It’s a foxhole mentality. No way, no how will Jameis Winston or any other player ever view today’s coaches as “one of them” they’re just not in the foxhole together. Maybe they WERE or HAVE BEEN in the foxhole, but they’re not there today. So, unless Winston is no longer a person, he’ll more readily listen to Mike Glennon than to all the high-priced coaches in the world.
As for your dismissiveness to the back up QB, beyond Gary Kubiak, behind most of the successful long-term big name starters in league history there has been a long-term “career back up.”
Perhaps the most iconic was Don Strock in Miami. At various times he backed up Brian Griese, Dan Marino the revolving door of starters in the early 80s the preceded Marino and was a starter himself. Through it all there was Strock, usually in a Dolphins warm up jacket standing next to Don Shula offering advice and counsel.
Earl Morrall backed up Johnny Unitas and Bob Griese for the Colts and Dolphins, respectively; Zeke Bratkowski backed up Bart Starr during the glory years in Green Bay; George Blanda was the back up for a succession of Raiders quarterbacks over his long career; and there are many, many others.
May 19th, 2015 at 6:49 am
Glennon will be let go next offseason when he is scheduled to become a free agent. They should sign a veteran backup for his departure. If they really wanted to changes to the culture they would release Glennon and that bum center that keeps changing his name he’s, a free agent bust as well. Give the spot to Market. They should consider trading Mankins as well I believe Pamphile and Edwards will be better this season with an offensive approach in place plus they have the same coach from last season for the offensive line
May 19th, 2015 at 7:48 am
@ Stpetebucsfan
Good post, brother, good post.