The Mysterious O-Line Priority
April 29th, 2015
Thank goodness nobody asked Joe to wager on whether the Bucs would add an offensive lineman before the NFL Draft.
Joe would have lost big money betting on Tampa Bay to have at least signed one body, such as a second- or third-wave-of-free-agency veteran for depth.
But the Bucs did nothing, other than sniff a few bodies, such as “The Wiz” and barbecue-friendly Dan Connolly.
So after dumping Anthony Collins and Oneil Cousins, two guys who logged a load of O-line snaps last year, the Bucs have backed themselves into a corner. They have to draft multiple offensive linemen this week.
But what’s the priority?
Joe feels compelled to resurrect Sean Payton’s discussion of “the most important piece of property in football.” You’re welcome to click-through. Basically, Payton talks about how the interior line providing a “clean climb in the pocket” is the key. It flies in the face of conventional discussion of how a strong left tackle is priority No. 1.
Will the Bucs agree with Payton and look for a nasty guard or elite-talent center after grabbing Jameis Winston? Or will they do everything in their power to get the best left tackle prospect available?
This is one reason Joe really likes manbeast Ereck Flowers out of the University of Miami, the guy has the size and nasty edge to play tackle or guard. Joe just hopes the Bucs have the coaching talent to get the most out of their O-line talent haul in this week.
Joe is skeptical of offensive line coach George Warhop. (Who wouldn’t be after last season?) Lovie Smith has never crafted a great O-line in his career, so that’s a concern, too.
April 29th, 2015 at 5:11 pm
OL…but NO trading up…..
April 29th, 2015 at 5:14 pm
Ereck Flowers is now a pretty much consensus top 10 pick. So if the Bucs trade down with the Jets or Skins or Bears, it can happen. Otherwise it’s a wonderful pipe dream.
April 29th, 2015 at 5:17 pm
They will get one at the 7th pick after the trade with the bears. Thats why they havent spent money. They will have room for cutler, draft a tackle at 7 and another at 34
April 29th, 2015 at 5:21 pm
I we need is Jameis. 🙂
April 29th, 2015 at 5:23 pm
You really need to get over Jameis dud hes not a good guy and wont be a buc.
April 29th, 2015 at 5:23 pm
You really need to get over Jameis dude hes not a good guy and wont be a buc.
April 29th, 2015 at 5:26 pm
Is Warhop still here?
April 29th, 2015 at 5:28 pm
People need to remember who is making the pic and stop making it personal. Its Lovie. He doesn’t draft guys with off field issues period! As far as the Glaziers, they brought in Schiano to clean house. Got rid of a 1000 yard rusher and 1000 yard receiver. Neither broke the law but were not good guys off field. Your fooling yourself to think they will spend a number one pic/Face of the franchise/Leader of the team on a guy like Winston. Stop making excuses and come into the light!!!
April 29th, 2015 at 5:30 pm
Greg…you’re right I don’t think they’ll take Jameis either. I just need to get over it and move on…
Bwahahahahahaha
April 29th, 2015 at 5:31 pm
Greg,
Cutler has proven in two cities and two teams that he is a huge A HOLE and a team divider yet you bad mouth Winston who teammates and coaches rave about. You need to take a hard look at supporting cutler pretty hypocritical
April 29th, 2015 at 5:32 pm
First smart post you have written
April 29th, 2015 at 5:33 pm
Greg Says:
April 29th, 2015 at 5:28 pm
“People need to remember who is making the pic and stop making it personal. Its Lovie. He doesn’t draft guys with off field issues period! As far as the Glaziers, they brought in Schiano to clean house. Got rid of a 1000 yard rusher and 1000 yard receiver. Neither broke the law but were not good guys off field. Your fooling yourself to think they will spend a number one pic/Face of the franchise/Leader of the team on a guy like Winston. Stop making excuses and come into the light!!!”
Can I save this for tomorrow night’s blog? Yes I can and any other fool that has some outlandish thing to say tonight or tomorrow morning…
Copy, pasted and saved.
April 29th, 2015 at 5:34 pm
IF Bucs take Jameis #1 (I hope they trade for lots of picks)
THEN they should draft like this:
#2 Cameron Erving FSU C
#3 Tre Jackson FSU OG
#4 Anthony Chickillo UMiami DE
#5 Josue Matias FSU OG
#6 Chaz Green UF OG
#7 Jon Feliciano UMiami OG
#7a Trenton Brown UF OT
April 29th, 2015 at 5:36 pm
Nothing the Bucs do would surprise me at this point. Whatever they do, I will hope for the best…I figure that’s why the decision makers over there make the big bucks.
April 29th, 2015 at 5:36 pm
Do what you want I will be at a sports bar with friends watching the draft hoping we get anybody but Winston. Im not rooting for a rapist…ever!
April 29th, 2015 at 5:37 pm
pete…I am a long time UM fan….no to Chickillo
April 29th, 2015 at 5:38 pm
SMH…. Do any of you re read your posts?
April 29th, 2015 at 5:39 pm
Greg, did you ever consider that the media is possibly railroading Winston to uphold an agenda?
April 29th, 2015 at 5:39 pm
Maybe Winston can slip some roofies into each opponents Gatorade! lol
April 29th, 2015 at 5:39 pm
It’s one thing to have an opinion on what they should do with the pick…
It’s completely in denial, ignorant or dumb at this point, to think they won’t be drafting Winston in IMO.
Greg, SuperSam, Erik the Jersey Guy, Mariota Joe etc. Which one of those applies to you?
Do save my comments tonight too if you like. Just so you can throw the in my face tomorrow if you think you’re so right and the 30 plus mock drafts are wrong.
April 29th, 2015 at 5:41 pm
When was a mock draft ever right?
April 29th, 2015 at 5:47 pm
Why would I save comments? I know all the mocks say we are doing it. Your right I am hoping against the grain so to speak. I think Winston is a scumbag and it would kill a lot of fans if we draft him. FSU fans don’t care what he does off field. Tampa isn’t Tallahassee. The cops here actually arrest people. The media will catch him eventually because he is not smart off the field.
April 29th, 2015 at 5:48 pm
“You really need to get over Jameis dude hes not a good guy and wont be a buc”
Interesting comment considering Vegas has it as a virtual betting lock that Winston will be taken by the Bucs. What do they know? It’s not like a ton of money & jobs rely on setting those odds correctly or anything.
April 29th, 2015 at 5:50 pm
Greg Says:
April 29th, 2015 at 5:41 pm
When was a mock draft ever right?
Never. But about the #1 pick? Pretty much 99.999% of the time.
Walterfootball has nailed the #1 pick every single year I checked. I went back to like 2007 or so and got bored. They have had Winston to the Bucs for months now.
April 29th, 2015 at 5:51 pm
Greg Says:
April 29th, 2015 at 5:41 pm
“When was a mock draft ever right?”
With the first pick? About 98% of the time. Especially when every mock has the same player at the top…
They may get the the 4th or 5th pick wrong, but rarely get the first one wrong.
April 29th, 2015 at 5:52 pm
Greg tomorrow you can cry a river. Welcome the Bay Jamies.
April 29th, 2015 at 5:52 pm
So I guess Greg goes in the “in denial” category….
April 29th, 2015 at 5:55 pm
Excellent point by Joe. O-line not addressed during free agency, Lovie has NEVER had a good oline in his entire career. Yet we all have some quiet anticipation that it will be addressed during the draft. That might be just crazy. We could end up drafting a DE, WR, RB and then address the oline with a 6th or 7th round pick, or maybe draft one olineman in the 3rd. Not properly addressing the oline seems more than likely.
April 29th, 2015 at 5:56 pm
How many season tickets have you bought Buc1987 ?
I am not renewing mine which I’ve had since Ray Perkins….nothing to do with Jameis…but they are great seats
Sec 123 Row Y
11&12
South EZ dead center between goal posts
April 29th, 2015 at 5:59 pm
JoeJoes Fungi Nails …I haven’t bought any yet actually. Still waiting on my tax refund check which should be here any day now.
April 29th, 2015 at 5:59 pm
Greg
roofies comment is pathetic dude. greg are your really bruce jenner??? do you like little boys???
anyone can say anything about anyone and fools like your spout off with out any facts….you are just beating the drum of someone elses agenda you think is cool for the day. Maybe one day you will be able to form an educated opinion based on facts on your own. the tox screen was negative idiot. accusing people of drugging others without facts is right in your world I guess… I was trying to be rational with your scumbag arse until the roofie comment.
Time for Bed Mr. Jenner
April 29th, 2015 at 6:00 pm
Most FSU fans in Tampa are either already bucs ticket owners or are not going to be. Sure James would add a few but how many will not go because of him? I know a lot of people that say they wont renew tickets if we draft Jameis.
April 29th, 2015 at 6:01 pm
Jake Fisher trade back into the 2nd grab AJ Cann. And try to get Danielle Hunter or Nate Orchard in the 3rd. Obviously we’ll trade back in the 3rd my scenerio
April 29th, 2015 at 6:02 pm
the bucs are about to draft jamies Winston. he is a pocket passer. josh mccown was mobile and he got destroyed last year. he was sacked and knocked down repeatedly. lovie still needs his Julius peppers edge rusher. what to do….. what to do….
April 29th, 2015 at 6:07 pm
JoeJoes Fungi Nails:
If Chickillo is not worth a 4th round pick, then another Olineman should be picked with number 4. Bucs Oline is the worst I have ever seen and must be totally rebuilt!
April 29th, 2015 at 6:07 pm
@Greg
I’d be willing to bet at the end of the day Lovie doesn’t have the final say on personnel, unless he signs his own paycheck.
April 29th, 2015 at 6:08 pm
The stadium can’t BE much more empty then it was last season….
April 29th, 2015 at 6:13 pm
Arealbucsfan Says:
April 29th, 2015 at 6:01 pm
Jake Fisher trade back into the 2nd grab AJ Cann. And try to get Danielle Hunter or Nate Orchard in the 3rd. Obviously we’ll trade back in the 3rd my scenerio
That’d be like my dream draft. I just like Fisher for his quick feet/ technique seeming to be a great translator for LTs. Cann is a beast guard and the #1 OG according to some. Orchard could be a force.
LT – Fisher
LG – Mankins
C – EDS
RG – Cann
RT – Dotson
I’d trade all our late rounders to guarentee those 4 lol. Well maybe save 1 or 2 for a WR/S.
April 29th, 2015 at 6:24 pm
Greg, shut up man. Please? We’re all asking nicely. The trolling is so….simple minded.
First off explain to me how he’s a rapist. And I mean explain it, in detail, with facts. Proven, undisputed facts. If you can not, (and I suspect you cannot) you need to close your mouth. No no, No. Close it, now. Not after one more comment; now.
This ridiculous accusation has to stop, unless someone can produce for me facts and indisputable evidence, then you can keep your ignorant and baseless comments to yourself.
April 29th, 2015 at 6:26 pm
Love Flowers doubt he is there in the second I like Donovan smith and I like lakenTomlinson
April 29th, 2015 at 6:27 pm
Now that I’ve taken care of the ID ten Ts, I can discuss the draft.
Winston,
Fisher,
Tomlinson,
Donovan Smith (if he’s around) or one of the two tackles from Oklahoma
5) traded to move up in 4th
6) Ifo ekpre olomu
7) Karlos Williams and Bobby Hart
April 29th, 2015 at 6:29 pm
Pretty good week for sports. I’ve got NBA and NHL playoffs tonight, including what should be a great game 7 for the Bolts, the draft tomorrow, and the Manny/Mayweather fight in a couple days. Plus the Rays don’t suck like everybody thought they would. 🙂
April 29th, 2015 at 6:30 pm
In the third, if he’s still there, I’d like them to consider Dorial Green-Beckham. He fits the mold, but his red-flags are significant.
I would only condone this if no quality OLs are there AND beckham fell.
April 29th, 2015 at 6:31 pm
Kalind
Thank you.
April 29th, 2015 at 6:46 pm
jameis to get free crab legs for life:
The owner of Skipper’s Smokehouse graduated from Florida State 47 years ago, which is one of the leading reasons why he has decided to give Winston free crab legs for life if the Heisman Trophy Award winner goes No. 1 overall to the Buccaneers.
April 29th, 2015 at 6:49 pm
Welcome back my friends.
To THE SHOW that never ends.
We’re so glad you could attend.
Come inside.
Come inside.
April 29th, 2015 at 6:57 pm
…guaranteed to blow your head apart! You gotta see the, it’s a dynamo…
April 29th, 2015 at 6:58 pm
oops forgot show there
April 29th, 2015 at 7:02 pm
The O-Line solution is very simple. Just hire the Tallahassee Police Department to play the 5 positions because they have shown that nobody can protect Winston like they can
April 29th, 2015 at 7:07 pm
Bucs fan in Chicago,
🙂
April 29th, 2015 at 7:09 pm
I’m really starting to think that Lovie will pass on Jameis. I don’t like this feeling.
April 29th, 2015 at 7:11 pm
Very nice Jaboo
April 29th, 2015 at 7:15 pm
Lol. Not a Winston hater but that one was funny JabooSucks.
April 29th, 2015 at 7:20 pm
Bucs head coach Lovie Smith and GM Jason Licht do not plan to inform Jameis Winston or whomever else they might choose with the No. 1 overall pick that they’re being selected until the team is put on the 10-minute clock Thursday night, a team source tells ESPN’s Ed Werder.
April 29th, 2015 at 7:31 pm
We’re 2-14 and heading into next season with a rookie QB, therefore no playoffs for us. At #34 you get the BPA. No matter what. You can’t reach for a position of need. This is actually shaping up to be a very mediocre draft. Picks 20-40…a crapshoot. If someone gives up a 2016 first and change for our 34. Do it, Or trade back. Go Bucs and can’t wait for the draft party tomorrow!
April 29th, 2015 at 7:31 pm
I have to say I agree with Tmaxx. No Cutler.
I’m for trading down if the price is right two top picks this year and next a veteran QB and another player.
But Cutler is poison and I don’t care how good someone is poison in the locker room is never the answer.
I wouldtake Winston before I took Cutler.
Yes I did just say that. But Tmaxx is right Cutler is poison.
Maybe Rivers and 1st 2nd pick this year next year. Trade up and get the top OLine or DE.
Go Bucs!!!
April 29th, 2015 at 7:33 pm
“All You Need Is Jameis”
Jameis Jameis Jameis
Jameis Jameis Jameis
Jameis Jameis Jameis
There’s nothing you can do that can’t be done
Nothing you can sing that can’t be sung
Nothing you can say but you can learn how to play the game
It’s easy
Nothing you can make that can’t be made
No one you can save that can’t be saved
Nothing you can do but you can learn how to be you in time
It’s easy
All you need is Jameis
All you need is Jameis
All you need is Jameis, Jameis
Jameis is all you need
April 29th, 2015 at 7:45 pm
Speaking for lovie smith
We decided to trade the #1 pick to Chicago for cutler, forte and Bennett bc we feel it puts us on the verge of …..
April 29th, 2015 at 7:47 pm
@Lord Cornelius would be a great draft. And after the draft trade for Swearinger and put Conte at FS (which i think he’s best suited for) wouldnt be to bad
April 29th, 2015 at 7:48 pm
I really do hope that the Bucs try to trade back up into the 1st round and grab their future franchise LT. If you are going to get your QB now, may as well get your LT also
April 29th, 2015 at 7:48 pm
Don’t forget to cup the balls 87. 😉
April 29th, 2015 at 7:50 pm
1987 went to Pound The Rock
April 29th, 2015 at 7:53 pm
O-line is top priority after Jameis. It is the single most important unit in the game. Without an O-line, it’s impossible to win a championship, let alone make the playoffs.
April 29th, 2015 at 8:14 pm
Not saying that Brady, Rodgers, Manning aren’t good, but the fact that the get 3 – 5 seconds to throw the ball Every time, is kind of a contributing factor.
April 29th, 2015 at 8:30 pm
We will pick a tackle in the second round… If a starting caliber guard is available in the mid to late second we should move up into the second round and get him…
I know some of you value a fourth round pick but I value having a line that doesn’t suck more… A fourth round pick is a depth player most of the time…
April 29th, 2015 at 9:02 pm
@ gator n bucs
The reason they get that much time to throw many times is they know how to manipulate the pocket. It isn’t because they have continually been behind all pro offensive linemen their entire careers. A good offensive coordinator and a good QB can do wonders for an offensive line thats a little lacking. Koetter is good in the screen pass game so that will help some, but we need a QB with some pocket awareness too. Not Mariota.
April 29th, 2015 at 9:52 pm
Seriously, are there people who are willing to give more than a handshake for Cutler? And even that is more than he is worth.
I know Joe does not like stats (except when they fit his argument), but let me ask the Cutler lovers this…
*IF* the Bucs had a chance to get (cheaper than Cutler) a player who had a 66.5% comp rate compared to Cutlers’ 63.1%, a Yds/comp of 8.2 versus 7.4, a yds/sack of 3.4 versus 7.0, and a per game INT rate of .1 versus 1.1, would you be interested? And just so you know that neither QB had a better supporting cast than the other… they both earned those stats on the same team, in the same year. That’s right folks, the Bucs have already started a better QB than Cutler… McCown.
April 29th, 2015 at 10:42 pm
I am not a Mariota Mob guy GotBucs. Neither am I a Winston guy. I’m just a guy that believes that the people that get paid alot more than I do will make the right decision and whatever it is I will continue my 39 yrs of fandom
April 29th, 2015 at 10:49 pm
Hey Greg BABAHAHA you are so naive, if you really believe they are not taking Winston.
April 30th, 2015 at 12:29 am
we will be drafting Jameis Winston tomorrow night sorry guys who wanted Marcus Mariota I wanted Marcus as well,when Jameis Winston put the Buccaneers Jersey on I’m a hundred percent behind him.short leash.Tampaaaaaaaa
April 30th, 2015 at 3:34 am
Buc1987 Says
“It’s one thing to have an opinion on what they should do with the pick…
It’s completely in denial, ignorant or dumb at this point, to think they won’t be drafting Winston in IMO.”
We finally agree on something.
April 30th, 2015 at 10:41 am
You guys are saying the same thing over and over. Maybe you should say it louder for those of us who are hard of hearing. Please let the draft begin soon! Argggghhhhhh!