Suh Deal Reveals Gerald McCoy Bargain
March 8th, 2015
You can argue who is better, Ndamukong Suh or Gerald McCoy, all day long, but there is no arguing on who will get paid a lot more over the next six years.
Today, per BSPN, Suh preliminarily agreed to a six-year, $114 million deal with the Dolphins. That’s about $19 million per year for Suh, who can sign the deal when the free agency dinner bell rings on Tuesday afternoon.
Last October, the Bucs inked McCoy to a seven-year contract that would leave McCoy with about 30 percent less money than Suh annually.
Over the past three seasons, McCoy has more sacks and more forced fumbles than Suh.
Joe’s glad the Bucs locked up No. 93. He sure could have made more cash on the open market. And Joe would wager a few nickels that McCoy has a better career in the books when both guys eventually hang it up.
March 8th, 2015 at 1:55 pm
Bargin….you get hat you pay for….
Suh > McCoy
McCoy is very very good…but Suh is Suh
March 8th, 2015 at 1:56 pm
How is Suh better?
March 8th, 2015 at 1:57 pm
^ says the person who has probably seen Such play two games in his entire life
March 8th, 2015 at 1:59 pm
30% isn’t that about the time he missed on IR and hurt???
March 8th, 2015 at 2:01 pm
Suh is just more famous because he is a dirty player. He has also had a dline that is 5x better than McCoys. And numerous players including our own EDS said McCoy is the best 3 tech he’s ever played against. EDS has been playing suh twice a year for years.
March 8th, 2015 at 2:01 pm
I like Gerald McCoy…but I was screaming to trade up to for Suh.
@The Buc Realist: Yes, as a matter of fact, yes it is…
March 8th, 2015 at 2:01 pm
Suh has had way more talent around him and McCoy has still outproduced him the last few years.
March 8th, 2015 at 2:03 pm
Wowwww those are huge Jj Wattish numbers. Miami instantly becomes a top.10 d with him.
If McCoy can stay healthy and somehow find the OMDB (over my dead body) inside of him then maybe just maybe he can be as good as Suh. But yes we got a helluva bargain in hindsight.
March 8th, 2015 at 2:05 pm
Who cares about this move? The Dolphins still won’t win their division and it seems we got a great deal on McCoy by signing him this past season. Seems like the Dolphins took a page out of our book and over-payed for Suh.
March 8th, 2015 at 2:07 pm
The deal is actually, 3 years @ $20 million each…years 4-6 are club options that will almost never be executed as the cap numbers will be to big for the Dolphins to keep him. So, wait around and he’ll be available again in 2018
March 8th, 2015 at 2:10 pm
Now its over, no Suh.
March 8th, 2015 at 2:15 pm
McCoy is better than Suh. Come on, what help has GMC had? Michael Bennett for a bit yeah, but otherwise a bunch of crap or average players. If he was on that Lions line with the talent Suh had with him, he’d have put up even better stats.
March 8th, 2015 at 2:16 pm
#LeonardWilliams
March 8th, 2015 at 2:19 pm
Suh and Wake will be a ridiculous combo. That’s a lot of damn money though.
March 8th, 2015 at 2:22 pm
jfat Says:
March 8th, 2015 at 2:19 pm
Suh and Wake will be a ridiculous combo. That’s a lot of damn money though.
So was McCoy, McDonald, Johnson and Clayborn last year, I call it the “all cash, no production D-line!!!”
March 8th, 2015 at 2:24 pm
Suh stomps on player’s on the ground. McCoy gladly helps them up instead.
March 8th, 2015 at 2:28 pm
Lets see if gerald csn stop disappearing in the second half of games. And on 3rd down.
March 8th, 2015 at 2:28 pm
McCoy the past two seasons has graded out as the second best lineman behind only JJ Watt on a weekly basis.
March 8th, 2015 at 2:35 pm
When gmAc can stay onside on a 3rd and 4, THEN we will talk. McCoy is a solid 3 technique but isn’t in the same conversation as a Suh or Watt.
March 8th, 2015 at 2:45 pm
Hickey with the big signing, may he have the same success as the GM he learned from, “the Rockstar”
March 8th, 2015 at 2:49 pm
Suh is a winner. McCoy is a nice guy on a 2-14 team.
Suh deserves more cash than McCoy, he is a bigger difference maker. Even with suspensions for misunderstanding a rule or 6 he is on the field more than McCoy.
March 8th, 2015 at 2:49 pm
Why hate on GMC? I don’t understand the full on negativity of some fans. Rag on our best defensive player because he helps people up? Gimme a damn break.. I’m glad we’ve got the man, he can be downright dominant at times, if he ever has a real supporting cast he’ll be every bit as good as Suh…for less money.
I’m just glad LL&G didn’t open the wallet for the big name FA and blow our entire budget.
March 8th, 2015 at 3:01 pm
jfat
We are not out of the woods yet, it’s just getting started. Lovie has plenty of time and opportunity to not only blow the budget but to also set the franchise back years with his pathetic player evaluations and choices.
March 8th, 2015 at 3:18 pm
Doesn’t matter how good Suh is, sooner or later his true colors will show and he’ll stomp again. He’s got a problem that didn’t just go away cause he shed a tear in a nationally broadcast press conference lol..
Time will tell if I’m wrong, I doubt it.
Yes people change, sometimes… Not this one imo.
March 8th, 2015 at 3:31 pm
Wonder what they are gonna pay Tannehill now?
Not sure I’d be comfortable with Suh being the “face” of the franchise with his on field habits..
March 8th, 2015 at 3:32 pm
McCoy > Suh
As a player, and as a man.
Glad to have him here.
March 8th, 2015 at 3:35 pm
I like mccoy. Still probably our best player, which doesnt say much. Hes still needs to improve. He gets hurt. His knee almost snapped off in week 15 or 16. Hes no warren sapp. Yet. He gets his sacks in the first quarter then becomes a ghost in 3rd down and second half. Btw 10 sacks for any dlinemen is not impressive not even a.sack a game
March 8th, 2015 at 3:36 pm
Im glad we drafted Mccoy. He developed and we signed him with the contract he deserved. Poor Miami. They had too grossly overpay for a player that may or may not work out in their defense. Im glad we got Mccoy. Homegrown all the way!
BTW I thought Miami played a 3-4 where the DT plays the 0…?
March 8th, 2015 at 3:39 pm
All that truly matters is we kept the player who decided to stay rather than hit market. No matter which player is better,we got the right guy because we keep him
March 8th, 2015 at 3:41 pm
Im callin gmc is hurt with that knee by week 3 or 4 next year
March 8th, 2015 at 3:42 pm
cant believe how convinced people are that suh is better. no matter the numbers or actually watching the games
March 8th, 2015 at 3:46 pm
“Btw 10 sacks for any dlinemen is not impressive not even a.sack a game”
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Ehh? There were only 18 guys with 10 or more sacks this past season. 9 of them are listed as LB’s, and there’s only 1 DT (Marcel Darius). 10 sacks is still the measure of a pretty good year, similar to 1,000 yards for a WR or RB.
March 8th, 2015 at 3:58 pm
Suh is better cus he’s on the field not the sidelines hurt. Only time the Bucs had a winning record McCoy was hurt. He’s over paid and invisible in the 4th quarter.
March 8th, 2015 at 4:05 pm
Damn – the Dolphins will be paying top 5 QB money to a DT. Good luck with that. See you in salary cap hell.
March 8th, 2015 at 4:19 pm
Suh’s deal reveals Aunt Geraldine is still and always will carry Suh’s jock strap! Although, I must say Aunt Geraldine makes for a better magician than Suh, because he reminds me of Whodini the way he disappears after the 1st quarter in games.
March 8th, 2015 at 4:30 pm
This does not tell how much SUH is worth…it shows how much Miami is willing to OVERPAY for his services. What a joke. That much money to a DT? Yeah he is a beast but this is getting ridiculous with these contracts. Correction not getting….IS ridiculous! Holy hell 19 million a year??? He will NEVER be worth that much to anyone. First Wallace now this? wow
March 8th, 2015 at 4:31 pm
Suh is a better player and everyone knows it. You ask anyone at ESPN or nfl network and it’ll be greater than 90% in favor of Suh and those analysts actually played football as opposed to joebucsfan who couldn’t play against a peewee team.
Suh is also much more durable. McCoy had only really 1 year without injury. You pay premium for talent and durability.
March 8th, 2015 at 4:33 pm
I have a feeling McCoy is going to claim he’s injured when the Bucs are 0-4 next year. Ha hahahahahah!
March 8th, 2015 at 4:37 pm
Why does it matter which one is better…..a rediculous debate…..the fact is GMC plays for us and Suh plays for the Dolphins…..GMC will make great $$ & Suh will make great $$….it just doesn’t matter and it’s an argument that can’t be won.
March 8th, 2015 at 5:27 pm
For me just another added reason to hate the dolphins even more.
March 8th, 2015 at 5:45 pm
Love McCoy, glad he’s a buc
March 8th, 2015 at 5:52 pm
McCoy said it himself that Suh is better. But that’s neither here nor there. As for for overpaying for a player see the entire FAs signed by the bucs last year.
Here’s my major concern. Will the bucs sign, pick n draft the nicest (softest) team in the NFL? Based on the opinions and comments Ive read in the last two years it surely seems like that’s the team we want. That’s just incomprehensible to me. We’re going to smile our way to last place again?
March 8th, 2015 at 5:52 pm
McCoy should be cheaper he has missed too many games due to injuries…
Dont get me wrong… I think McCoy is a solid player when he is healthy but Suh is a more dominant player and worth the premium…
March 8th, 2015 at 5:56 pm
Bucs are quiet so far and the Eagles are busy. Is there a trade in the works? If Eagles are trading up to #1, we will know before the FA start.
March 8th, 2015 at 6:02 pm
I’m convinced Tampa Bay has some of the most retarded fans I’ve ever seen post on the internet. Suh and McCoy are both dominant players, but over the last few years, McCoy has put up better numbers on a much worse defensive line. Factor in McCoy having much better character and also cheaper, I’d say we are just fine.
March 8th, 2015 at 6:09 pm
Suh knocks ’em down, McCoy picks ’em up.
They would have made a beautiful couple.
March 8th, 2015 at 6:09 pm
@dave
Naughty and nice
March 8th, 2015 at 6:09 pm
We got the better draft pick.
Fact is had we got Suh he would be hitting FA now cause he’ a greedy pig. As a matter a fact, he would have been shipped off long ago amidst all the drama he brought and our FO’s low tolerance for BS. Instead we drafted the team oriented, just as talented, if not more talented McCoy who is loyal and wanted to stay long term. I’d say we got the better end of that deal.
Suh will be out of the league soon enough as he’s bound to get caught sneaking a swipe at some player in the future.
March 8th, 2015 at 6:13 pm
Sorry… McCoy has a better shot of seeing all his money more than Suh. No point in signing a contract that you will be cut for Salary Cap reasons. How ever long the salary is Guarenteed for is most likely the length and among of the contract.
March 8th, 2015 at 6:14 pm
@WS99,
Exactly.
Yin and Yang.
Sugar and Spice.
March 8th, 2015 at 6:18 pm
@Apollo
Before you start calling the fans retarded please consider that the bucs have avg 5 wins per season for the last 5 years? Last year, the most respected n best coach we’ve had in years managed to win 2 games and got completely embarrassed by a division rival on national tv. So who’s really the retarded ones? You’re right, its the fans who spend their money and time supporting the bucs all for a chance at a 5 win season. But I guess “real fans” like you know we’re on the verge.
All these teams making big moves to improve their teams and were signing Jason Williams mike Jenkins and Larry English. Where the FCK is LVDs contract? Lovie needs to get his chit straight before he has yet another mutiny on his hands.
#teamcialis
March 8th, 2015 at 6:19 pm
Geez, you imagine Donkey Kong Suh next to Cameron Wake?
March 8th, 2015 at 6:22 pm
Prbucfan
Who many times has Suh and his less talented team make the playoffs? Did you not see the Detroit game last season? We got run over on offense and on defense. Wtf are you guys talking about? It’s fckn amazing to me that our most important criteria is if a player is a nice guy. Gimme a fckn break. Loser mentality at its finest. Nice guys finish last and we’ll prove it again and again and again.
March 8th, 2015 at 6:27 pm
@ws99
we are averaging 5 wins the last 6 years!!! OmG that is terrible.
March 8th, 2015 at 6:29 pm
Real recognize real. Lol
March 8th, 2015 at 7:07 pm
I knew this would happen
March 8th, 2015 at 7:08 pm
@BucRealist……..Glennon got us 4 of those.
March 8th, 2015 at 7:10 pm
That is almost as scary as Suh with Wake, then if Jordan pans out I would hate to be in the AFCE
March 8th, 2015 at 7:12 pm
no human being should be worth that much money for anything lol
March 8th, 2015 at 7:13 pm
Looks like the cheerleaders don’t even wanna work here. Now that’s funny.
And when I say cheerleaders I mean the ones on the sidelines with the dresses on. The ones w a p*ssy n titties. The ones … damn having a hard time differentiating.
March 8th, 2015 at 7:22 pm
@dave.
Goodell makes about 40Mil a yr
March 8th, 2015 at 7:24 pm
It is good to be back and to see DB still keeping it real.
March 8th, 2015 at 7:39 pm
Welcome back my friend
March 8th, 2015 at 7:39 pm
I think GMC could have got more but he’s a team guy that wants to win, which means having money available for other good players. Mgmnt just needs to find the right guys before McCoy and David retire. David also needs to get paid and it’s time.
March 8th, 2015 at 7:46 pm
Thanks man.
March 8th, 2015 at 7:48 pm
I think the Bucs should trade Evans, David and Jackson for Suh and
then they should institute a bounty system.
March 8th, 2015 at 7:50 pm
WS99 what the hell are you going on about?
I don’t give a a damn if mccoy is a nice guy or not.
No one said I had a prob with tough aggressive players so don’t take things where I didn’t take them.
Now if you wanna act as if Suh’s ABNORMAL on field tactics are just a tough football player that’s where you are far from correct. I made my points now if you wanna go on about somethig aside from what I said well lol… I’m not gonna bother
March 8th, 2015 at 7:52 pm
BigMacAttack, exactly bro exactly.
March 8th, 2015 at 7:56 pm
@WS99
I agree with you that in Football you need tough men that are competitive down in their soul. Men that can’t stand to loose. Having said that, playing a sport with honor and integrity (i.e not purposely cheating or trying to win by injuring the other guy) is hardly a weakness. Its a strength that makes a stronger team. Dirty players will always let you down in the end one way or another. At the end of the day, I am betting the Dolphins will regret signing Suh.
March 8th, 2015 at 7:56 pm
I don’t think that we have a chance at Orlando Franklin. I think the Entire AFCW is coming after him and he would like to stay there. Iupati I think we could get. I hear from several SF fans that his pass blocking is not ‘as advertised’
March 8th, 2015 at 8:26 pm
Dog Gone IT. The Eagles took Sanchez off the Market
March 8th, 2015 at 8:52 pm
Kelly making moves. He’s got gore and maxwell on his radar too.
March 8th, 2015 at 8:59 pm
i don’t like either Suh or McCoy
March 8th, 2015 at 9:26 pm
Free Agency has lost me this year.
I hate this pre-negotiating stuff… ruins the dinner bell rumors.
March 8th, 2015 at 9:50 pm
DavePear haha love that: “Suh knocks ‘em down, McCoy picks ‘em up.”
So sad yet so true. lol
March 8th, 2015 at 10:03 pm
30% isn’t all that much for certain people. In this case it’s obvious GMC could easily work for some sports network, Such has the personality of a peanut and needs every penny
March 8th, 2015 at 11:06 pm
McCoys great… But next year we expected 4 quarters not the first 2 series. Cmon man!!!!
March 8th, 2015 at 11:28 pm
Haha MC SAPP, McCoy only plays great in 1 quarter and then he is lost and not to be found until the next game. Hahahaha so true.
March 9th, 2015 at 12:18 am
Let’s get something straight, JJ WATT is a freak…He lines up, up and down the line…Any D line position! and just dominates
Suh and GMC are strictly 3 DTs…GMC is better…But Suh DOES NOT miss games, at all…GMC is not as strong as Suh, but GMC is quicker off the ball period
And Miami is overpaying for sure…giving him JJ Watt money smdh…the dolphins love that glitz and glamour splash that keeps them 7-9…with stars as 2% owners etc.
March 9th, 2015 at 2:06 am
McCoy is premier 3T and with the right supporting cast from coaches down to teammates he is the better player.
Individually, Suh is a better pass rusher and run stopper from the position. Simply better player physically.
McCoy is a Buc and I hope we can put something around this Christmas tree to get it lit.
So many wasted years and injuries for a good player on IR or a bad football team.
March 9th, 2015 at 3:21 am
Buc you I agree man. I was so excited but now I’m turned off completely with these stupid “pre-signings”.
March 9th, 2015 at 9:39 am
let’s see who actually makes it further into their deal and actually earns more from it. neither guy will see the full deal length. total deal size is a really incomplete criteria for judging who got paid and who didn’t.
March 9th, 2015 at 10:00 am
Really Tmaxcon, what has Sun won other than a few trips to the commish’s office and a huge tax write off for his fines.
Your a troll.
March 9th, 2015 at 8:37 pm
I’ll take McCoy and his contract. I’ll take McCoy and Suh’s contract. I’ll take McCoy everyday and twice on Sunday. He’s not only one hell of a football player, but a great man for the Tampa Bay community. Class act. Oh yeah, AND ONE HELL OF A FOOTBALL PLAYER.
March 10th, 2015 at 1:53 am
Bucs took advantage of a Man who is loyal to his teem and who wanted to keep his home here in Tampa. He will not let his team down.