Greg Hardy Dreams Extinguished?
March 18th, 2015
A new report says the Buccaneers’ dance with elite pass rusher has ended without a kiss.
At about 2 p.m., TampaBay.com Bucs beat writer Rick Stroud Twittered that the Buccaneers are no longer interested in Hardy and it nothing to do with a contract.
Joe can’t vouch for the accuracy of Stroud’s Twittering, so Joe’s not calling a time of death on Hardy-to-Bucs chatter. Things can change fast in the NFL, though Joe’s advising Bucs fans to find a new obsession.
March 18th, 2015 at 2:03 pm
Hardy hardy har
March 18th, 2015 at 2:03 pm
The fact it wasn’t about the money will drive people insane and send a shiver down the Jameis crowd’s spines. Very good day for the Mariota Mob though.
March 18th, 2015 at 2:04 pm
Great! We don’t need any woman beaters on the team!!
March 18th, 2015 at 2:04 pm
Might be that they heard from the league about what that suspension is going to look like
March 18th, 2015 at 2:05 pm
Always felt winning was over rated anyways.
March 18th, 2015 at 2:05 pm
Must have meant that licht and lovie dont hold him up to the high standard of michael johnson
March 18th, 2015 at 2:06 pm
F this team right in there pirate ship !
March 18th, 2015 at 2:07 pm
How can you lose interest in a player that never wanted to play for you?
March 18th, 2015 at 2:07 pm
Michael Johnson had no passion, Hardy is a different player. Wish he would have came. Thanks mccoy for trying
March 18th, 2015 at 2:09 pm
Another confirmation that Lovie only cares about charactor.
March 18th, 2015 at 2:10 pm
Lovie is getting pummeled in free agency. 2 of the 3 signings are prove it deals and the solid guy is going to be asked to switch positions. How in the heck am I supposed to excited over that. Having first waiver claim is nice but now way to gamble with such huge holes. Lovie is getting pummeled not one proven solid upgrade anywhere
March 18th, 2015 at 2:11 pm
lol, ok.
March 18th, 2015 at 2:11 pm
Oh well if true. At least we can all move on with our lives in regards to this soon.
I’m curious as to wtf is actualy going on though. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Bucs were never interested but were simply a play from Hardy’s agent to get more $$.
It’s also possible the Bucs don’t like the kind of contract Hardy was looking for; whether it be the terms or compensation.
March 18th, 2015 at 2:11 pm
If they had a pair of balls at all, they would explain what lost their interest.
March 18th, 2015 at 2:12 pm
I’ll believe it when I see it………..
March 18th, 2015 at 2:12 pm
No faith in lovie in licht not one drop, they are worst than the previous clowns
March 18th, 2015 at 2:12 pm
Instead of the woman beater maybe we can still trade for the child beater(AP
)!!!! Then, draft the alleged rapist. My morals went away with that 2-14 season… Whoever can help us win let’s sign them NOW
March 18th, 2015 at 2:15 pm
Again, these guys seem to just never fail to disappoint. Not taking Winston would be icing on another 2-14 season. Ugh.
March 18th, 2015 at 2:15 pm
4-12 team made worse by Lovie. Now a 2-14 team is not getting any better. It’s a Bucs life
March 18th, 2015 at 2:17 pm
GMC is taking isht on Twitter of course. This is why we can’t have nice things, our 2nd best player doing what he can and gets nothing but grief for his efforts.
March 18th, 2015 at 2:17 pm
Shoutouts to Team Captain & Face of the Franchise DT Gerald McCoy.
We Appreciate the effort brotha.
Show GMAC some LUV on his social media feeds. Because for some odd reason, trolls are hatin’ on the brotha.
March 18th, 2015 at 2:18 pm
Honestly, I didn’t want him here.
This peice in ESPN is spot on:
That said, it’s silly for folks to say that since the charges were dropped, Hardy didn’t do anything. Google the police report and read it for yourself.
((Joe doesn’t so links. Thanks. –Joe))
March 18th, 2015 at 2:19 pm
Couch Fan…. I dont care if its winston or mariotta but not taking either one you are spot on…. Licht seems to me like the drunk happy fat guy at the bar, the dude from always sunny in philadelphia, Bill Ponderosa, and lovie is THE ABSOLUTE worst talent evaluator in history how this clown is a head coach is beyond me….someone explain to me what is their to root for in this team next year? NO OL, NO LB, NO secondary…no qb as of today…mike evans and an old v jax….but no one to get them the ball…1-15
March 18th, 2015 at 2:20 pm
I want smith out of town before this year is over. Hes a incompetent bafoon. Go sit in your basement
March 18th, 2015 at 2:22 pm
If we wont take a chance on a proven player thats much needed in this scheme as the true pass rusher on a cover 2 scheme since we harly blitz to get pressure what makes people think that we will waist a first overall player on a player polorized on and off the field watch lovie suprise everyone and trade down for a defensive end or a tackle
March 18th, 2015 at 2:23 pm
The news and reports on Hardy’s assault charges have been available for a long time. If it’s not about a contract, maybe it’s because somebody at One Buc Place became aware of a possible suspension looming for Hardy? Pure speculation on my part, but why would the Bucs go through a courtship with him and THEN decide that his off-the-field issues were an impediment?
March 18th, 2015 at 2:26 pm
Hey Lovie u need a pass rush for ur defense to work, grow a pair and sign Hardy now. The draft is weak as fuk at that position, and ur honestly gonna go into the season with TJ fantkun whatever his name is as ur edge rusher. Bravo lovie! Bravo!!!!!!!
March 18th, 2015 at 2:28 pm
Hardy & Winston would made interesting roommates.
March 18th, 2015 at 2:29 pm
If he trades own im done with this team forever
March 18th, 2015 at 2:29 pm
tmaxcon Says:
March 18th, 2015 at 2:10 pm
“Lovie is getting pummeled in free agency. 2 of the 3 signings are prove it deals and the solid guy is going to be asked to switch positions. How in the heck am I supposed to excited over that. Having first waiver claim is nice but now way to gamble with such huge holes. Lovie is getting pummeled not one proven solid upgrade anywhere”
Get over it man, pummeled how? How many top end pass rushers were out there? Left tackles? Guards? You want them to go out and over-pay the next Collins or MJ I guess? There weren’t many “proven solid upgrades” out there. Most of the best FA’s re-signed with their own teams. They aren’t going to overpay B and C grade talent just because they have “needs”, that lesson seems to have been learned.
The rest of you joke ass “fans” giving up on next season before we even draft can suck it too.
March 18th, 2015 at 2:30 pm
L&L go get another super nice guy who can’t play a lick of football this is crazy man we are the joke of the NFL!
March 18th, 2015 at 2:31 pm
Bucs Sam – half the point of the charges being dropped stem from the police report you read and her testimony to the original judge and her statement to the prosecution all being different. The charges weren’t dropped because she won’t participate but because with 3 different stories the defense could have made them look silly at a trial. But whats it matter if the Bucs aren’t even trying. Thank you McCoy for at least trying.
March 18th, 2015 at 2:32 pm
Yeah, not a good omen for Winston…
Rick Stroud @NFLSTROUD 4 mins4 minutes ago
#Bucs GM Jason Licht on the decision not to pursue DE Greg Hardy. “At the end of the day, we didn’t feel good about it.”
March 18th, 2015 at 2:32 pm
I cant stand this bs. Get some balls. This team overpays for morons and you have a game changing de available and you screw it up. You are a joke! Screw u lovie!
March 18th, 2015 at 2:33 pm
I can sum it up in one word “suspension”. He’ll be suspended 8 games.
March 18th, 2015 at 2:33 pm
This sucks its March and I am already depressed about the upcoming season and lack of moves the bucs have made to at least make the OL better, they have done JACK SQUAT….and for people to call for Adrian Peterson, that would be a dumb move, what OL does he have to run behind….#1 worst move the new MGT has made is let the 3 OL of 2014 walk out the door, then sign the bengal crappy OL, then Johnson….if these 2 buffoons, were schiano and domminick they would had been fired months ago, but Lovie is dungys buddy so here he stays, CMON man, the bucs should have been 1-15 and may go ofer in 2015 with this BS squad they are going to roll out there…..sign some OL get Hardy, be competitive in a crappy divisison
March 18th, 2015 at 2:33 pm
Ill tell u I dont feel good about ur sorry ass team and its performance. Gtfo
March 18th, 2015 at 2:36 pm
I feel bad for Gerald McCoy, guy will never have help on the egde. We should of just let him walk in free agency so he can go to a team that actually wants to build their future around him.
March 18th, 2015 at 2:36 pm
JFAT you are right and I admire your positivity, when i hit the checkout line at publix tonight and the kid asks me for paper or plastic….I WILL SHOUT PAPER…so i can have 8 beautifully created bags to wear to the games next year that will match my fire lovie sign
March 18th, 2015 at 2:37 pm
It’s blatantly obvious Hardy used the Bucs as leverage to get a better deal out of Dallas, he never intended to come here. Classic Rosenhaus.
March 18th, 2015 at 2:38 pm
ufcguy, eric, etc
There are 31 other teams you can gladly hook your wah-gon to!
March 18th, 2015 at 2:40 pm
Hardy would of solved a major piece to the puzzle. The only thing that will get my mind off this is if we trade for Adrian Peterson(light years better than the running backs we have, even at age 30) and solidify the guard and tackle position. Other than that were still the same 2-14 team looking at another first overall pick in 2016 draft.
March 18th, 2015 at 2:42 pm
So which one of you is Mr Patrick these days?
or Has he just given up entirely….
March 18th, 2015 at 2:43 pm
The Bucs probably had a certain level of interest, but not as interested as the media was reporting. All signs pointed to Hardy signing in Dallas and the Bucs were being used to drive up the price. Things could change, but I wouldn’t expect to see Hardy in a Bucs uniform.
March 18th, 2015 at 2:50 pm
Don’t panick! J. Smith, W. Gholston and Larry English will become legends this year… Just wait, Licht sees something in these guys. #Super Bowl
March 18th, 2015 at 2:51 pm
If we dont get hardy this gm should be fired.. he has failed us time and time again…. michael jonson anothny collins trading away good olineman for bad ones not signing any olineman or passs rushers.. this gm stinks!
March 18th, 2015 at 2:51 pm
I never believed the Bucs were ever in the discussion for Hardy in the first place so I’m not that disappointed. How can a player really be considering playing for an organization when he hasn’t even stepped foot in your state let alone your building. I mean c’mon think about it why would a player choose the Bucs right now over the Cowboys all things being equal.
@ JFat what has this organization done to give you any reason to believe that 2015 is going to be any different than 2014? Unless L&L are going to hit on every draft pick and magically fill all the holes on the roster it is not looking good for next year. I hope I’m wrong and the Bucs finally have a winning season at least next year but realistically I don’t see it happening.
March 18th, 2015 at 2:53 pm
Maybe Melton can play defensive end…
March 18th, 2015 at 2:56 pm
Jfat
You are in denial. It’s OK time will fix it. Lovie and the bucs have been rejected or beat out every opportunity to upgrade this team since season ended. That is undisputed. This team is worse now. It’s one thing to be positive but another to be delusional. Lovie is a failure
March 18th, 2015 at 2:56 pm
Someone tell me again how players Love playing for lovie, please.
March 18th, 2015 at 2:56 pm
Read where Melton ran a 4.6 at pro combine and weighed 260# – hmmm, if he loses 15 pounds, the he might be lining up at DE.
March 18th, 2015 at 2:57 pm
I smell a Drew Rosenhaus in this mix. Ian Beckles said earlier that the Bucs didn’t lose interest…if they had no interest they would have never mentioned any to begin with. It was Hardy who lost interest.
OK. That could be true. Here is my take. If the Bucs sensed that Rosenhaus, a well known “player” was USING the Bucs simply for leverage to goose the deal with the Cowboys what better way for L&L to get the last laugh in that scenario.
Simply come and say the Bucs have lost interest so that JJ can save some money and the Bucs can tell Rosenhaus they can play his silly games as well he does.
This happens all the time, generally behind the scenes. When an agent is thoroughly hated in the league the enemy of my enemy becomes my friend.
That is to say that NFL GM’s have been known to call each other when there is a despised agent in the deal just to let them know they don’t have interest and so don’t get gamed by Rosenhaus.
Sadly I see posters like Nate…If we dont get hardy this gm should be fired
No Nate…Licht shouldn’t get fired. You should learn to direct your venom at the right source DREW FREAKING ROSENHAUS. He played the Bucs and by extension all of us!!!! And you fell for it Nate.
March 18th, 2015 at 2:57 pm
I feel like they have given up completely on this team. I understand after completely failing and sucking at last years free agency game might restrict you a bit. But still not going for any proven players (even with checkered backgrounds) is a huge let down. If I was on the team I would be completely upset with management about not even trying to put the tea in a position to win!
March 18th, 2015 at 2:58 pm
BTW Nate. I wasn’t picking on you. I feel for it to as did Joe and virtually all the posters here. Rosenhaus has played us all.
March 18th, 2015 at 3:02 pm
There’s no point crying over spilt milk. (Movin’ On)
Next on the agenda
Cameron Jordan (Age 25)
(4yr Career Numbers)
• Active:64 Started: 63
• Tackles: 114
• Sacks: 29.0
• Forced Fumbles: 5
• Pro Bowler (2013)
Of course most teams don’t trade players within the Division. But with the Saints salary cap situation and roster constraints-coupled with Jordan’s pending free agency in 2016. There’s a very good chance they move Jordan to acquire more assets. Rumors have the Giants , Da’ Bears as possible trade partners. A second round pick has been discussed.
March 18th, 2015 at 3:06 pm
Did the Seahawks lose interest too? Notice, they aren’t talked about anymore either
March 18th, 2015 at 3:09 pm
LUVMYBUCS
Jordan would be a upgrade. 2nd Rd this and toss Glennon in. won’t have to worry about him beating anyone.
March 18th, 2015 at 3:09 pm
The Seawhawks probably figured Rosenhaus games earlier than the Bucs.
March 18th, 2015 at 3:10 pm
Some of the Old Timers on this blog- might recall I wanted us to Draft Cameron Jordan in the 2011 DRAFT–And went bat sh*t crazy, after we picked Adrian Clayborn. Lol
March 18th, 2015 at 3:11 pm
@tmaxcon
Deal-Geter’ done!
March 18th, 2015 at 3:18 pm
Tmax and Luv
The deal doesn’t sound bad except for one problem. Who is our backup QB.
Which FA gives you any warm and fuzzies. MG8 may not be a world beater but he is predictable, knows the offense and the receivers.
Now if you guys have a plan for backup QB then I’m with you two on Jordan.
March 18th, 2015 at 3:19 pm
if you cant vouch for the accuracy of Stroud’s Twittering then why did you report his tweet about the bucs looking at greg hardy in the first place. someone has dr Jekyll, mr hyde syndrome
March 18th, 2015 at 3:25 pm
@StPeteBucsFan
Chase Daniels?
March 18th, 2015 at 3:26 pm
Rumor has it –that he will be released.
March 18th, 2015 at 3:27 pm
Although I’m not sure what direction you are coming from YUNGRY, I certainly appreciated your humor.
If we could get all those players maybe the state would set up a satellite parole office at One Buc Place.
March 18th, 2015 at 3:33 pm
Rosenhaus is working in the best interest of his client which is what he is supposed to be doing.
Possibly the Bucs said they were interested to the Cowboys would have to go into cap hell to try and sign him.
If you don’t want him, make the other team pay every cent they can muster up so they won’t have enough mooney to pay other players later.
See Demarcus Murray.
Unless they teach Hardy how to follow blocking and throw the ball, the ‘Boys aren’t going anywhere.
They have the most overrated QB in the league and no running back.
Good luck Cowgirls.
March 18th, 2015 at 3:52 pm
So I wonder who the Bucs are going to take with the first overall pick in 2016.
March 18th, 2015 at 3:57 pm
Great move guys. Who would want an elite DE in a system that requires it. Maybe our morals will get us a sack.
March 18th, 2015 at 4:23 pm
All of you jerks bad mouthing the Bucs and refusing to listen to facts always have the comfort to hide behind your hypocrisy.
I can just hear you whining and bad mouthing the Bucs eight year if Hardy slapped a girl around and got suspended for life.
Or, because he is such a good positive influence in the locker room, starts a disruption and causes a split in the team.
Or, even better, turns into Michael Johnson because now he has all that money and no allegiance to the Bucs.
The whole pack of you are really so pathetic and the worst part about it is probably very few of you spend hard earned money to actually watch the team play at home.
March 18th, 2015 at 5:27 pm
WHO “lost interest” is Academic. If you dangle enough MONEY, players suddenly become “interested” .
Licht failed us, again. This idiot spends the house on Collins and Johnson, who were outright reaches, with no recent numbers that ever warranted all we gave them.
Hell, Johnson barely had 5 sacks the year before he came here, and Collins was a freaking back up Tackle.
Greg Hardy was the real deal, a Man in the peak of his career, who had 15 sacks last year. He was a true game changing defensive end, exactly what the Tampa 2 needs so badly.
Signing him would have filled a need position for us, and allowed us to sign more offensive line help.
We have more money to spend then cash strapped Dallas did, yet we rolled over, and played dead 🙁
Along with allowing Bennett to walk, this will rank right up there with the many terrible mistakes these two clowns seem intent on making repeatedly.