Jameis Watch: “Biggest Riser”

February 26th, 2015

jameis 0212bCrab-legs-stealing, BB-gun-shooting, obscenity-hollering, Heisman-Trophy-winning, former national champion Jameis Winston, the pride of Florida State University, continues to look like a much better quarterback prospect than Mike Glennon and Josh McCown.

It’s Joe’s daily nugget on the Jameis Watch, celebrating the best quarterback ever to wear No. 5 in the state of Florida.

Who was the big winner at the NFL Scouting Combine? Could it possibly have been Jameis Winston, who already was considered a potential No. 1 overall pick?

Yahoo! Sports draft guru Shaun King, the former Bucs quarterback, says it was.

King cited Winston impressing at all levels of evaluation and called Winston’s combine “outstanding in every aspect,” including in interpersonal relations with team and media.

“For me, he was the biggest riser,” King said, “because he put to rest a lot of the negative perceptions that were out there about him as a person.”

While it may see trivial to some, a quarterback’s handling of media is important. The NFL mandates quarterbacks devote time for twice weekly media grilling sessions during the season, and the general face-of-franchise public duties are inevitable. It simply can’t be avoided in the modern NFL.

Comfort in front of media is no reason to draft a QB, but a guy who struggles and crumbles under scrutiny would raise a red flag.

You can enjoy King’s deeper look at combine winners and losers in the Yahoo! video below.

125 Responses to “Jameis Watch: “Biggest Riser””

  1. Yungry Says:

    No Means No

  2. Jim Says:

    Biggest Risker!

  3. mark Says:

    When it comes out of King’s mouth, I’ll now pass on JAMEIS.
    Hope Jameis does gain 10 pounds now.

  4. Erick Says:

    Barry stole my car…#BlameJameis

  5. mike n Says:

    Thanks shawn, so you had jameis going from #1 to staying at #1 as the biggest riser.

  6. bucbucbuc Says:

    I’m curious to see what will happen when “The Hunting Ground” is released (documentary exploring sexual assault on college campuses). It features Winston’s accuser, who discusses the incident in detail in the film. When this issue gets thrust back into the national spotlight, I wouldn’t be surprised if people start having doubts about Winston going number 1.

  7. tmaxcon Says:

    Safest pick in the draft = Winston


  8. robert 9 Says:

    exactly what negative perceptions did he put to rest?

    we all knew he was arrogant, cocky etc. what did he do different?

    answer any questions on his off the field stuff? no, no comment.

    for me he looked good on the field. the players probably like his cockiness……but he came across as a real a$$ who thinks he’s already at the top of the mountain.

    no where to go but down.

  9. Nick Says:

    @robert 9

    How much of your time and energy do you spend everyday refuting positive Jameis articles?

    On your taxes, do you have to list your occupation as “professional Jameis hater”?

  10. Pickgrin Says:

    “draft guru Shaun King” – Um OK – if you say so – LOL

    King is right that Winston raised his stock even though he was already widely slated as the #1 pick.

    Gotta give it to the kid. Most QBs who are already slotted at #1 wouldn’t even consider throwing at the combine. Jameis was not afraid to lay his skills on the line and risk having an off day. Instead he killed it. Made every throw just look so effortless. Proved yet again on the field that his confidence and swagger ain’t just talk.

    Winston was the WOW factor at the combine – as in coaches and GMs who haven’t seen as much tape as their scouts saying to each other – “WOW – this kid’s really got it. He’s the real deal on the field.”

    The other important thing Winston did was show via interviews and the press conference that he has charisma. That he is a real person. A genuine person who is funny, engaging, confident and comfortable in his own skin. He instilled faith that – YES – this guy can stand up in front of cameras and the press twice a week every week and represent our franchise in a positive way.

    Combine all that with the short look video of Winston’s white board session with Mooch -and I would say Yea – Jameis definitely killed it at the combine.

    Mariota raised his stock as well. Kudos to him for also throwing and doing quite well. We already knew he would run a very fast 40 – but then he went out and did it – so its just another check off the list.

    Seeing these 2 perform as they did – certainly did wonders for Bucs fans confidence. We now all know if any of us didn’t before – that whatever happens in this draft short of a trade down which ain’t happening – The Buccaneers are finally gonna get a very legitimate franchise QB prospect. Both these guys are gonna be good in the NFL if the team that gets them handles it right. Feels good to know that doesn’t it?

    I want Winston to be our new QB. But if for some reason the pick is Mariota – I ain’t gonna be crying about it. I hope those who prefer Mariota can come to the same conclusion and viewpoint.

  11. BFFL Says:

    He has been compared to Byron Leftwich who Koetter is familiar with. I don’t think Winston’s combine numbers did anything to dispel that comparison.

  12. robert 9 Says:

    between, joe, james, scratching and FB who has time for taxes?

  13. P'cola Buc Says:

    There are already doubts about Mariota. What will his learning curve be?
    He was quiet, reserved unsure of what to say at the NFL Network interview table sitting next to Winston. Winston was making the commentators feel relaxed, smiling as he engaged in conversation with them. Mariota himself was concerned of how he will handle his responsibilties in the huddle. Will Mariota be able to overcome his natural reserved demeanor? Will he translate to a leader encouraging his troops? Will he become bothered easily by the signs of his opponents intimidations? Will he find his voice? Just saying… many are also having doubts about Mariota worthy of going number one as well.

  14. Nick Says:

    @robert 9

    Fair enough. But I’m starting to think you’re the brains behind Barry’s car stealing syndicate.

  15. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    I won a most improved award once…..I was excited about it initially until I realized that I had come the farthest because I had the most room to improve.

    I believe that Winston did very well….but “riser” means the bar was set pretty low for him. I believe most expected Mariota to do well so…how does he rise?

    Imagine what would have happened if Marita ran a 6.5 40? He had much to lose if he didn’t perform up to expectations.

  16. Nybucsfan Says:

    King is the last person I would listen to

  17. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Speaking for Pablo

    “Pablo has a huge “riser” when Pablo wakes up most every morning. Pablo thinks his riser is bigger than Jameis'”

  18. P'cola Buc Says:

    Doubt if Winston’s bar was set very low. After all he was the front runner going into the combine. Mariota was the better athlete….Winston was the better natural quarterback.

  19. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    @ P’cola

    Bar not low for passing…..Low for the presser & interviews….

  20. P'cola Buc Says:


    Perhaps a selfie is in order…to prove your point…lol

  21. Eric Says:

    It is the hunting grounds alright,

    she is hunting for some of that NFL $$$$$$

  22. JoeJoes Fungi Nails Says:

    “Biggest Riser”
    isn’t that what got him in trouble with that girl…..

  23. 87ForWinstonNOMariota Says:

    Riser as in he answered all the doubts that were thrown his way. Interviews and the press.

    No one doubts Winston can sling it….well some fools on JBF doubt it, if that matters.

  24. Tampabaybucfan Says:


    “Pablo tried a selfie….Pablo’s arms weren’t long enough to capture the entire image” For some idea, Pablo suggests you watch the movie Anaconda”

  25. P'cola Buc Says:


  26. P'cola Buc Says:


    too funny

  27. biff barker Says:

    Kiss of death.

    The guru was also stumping to resign Freeman.

  28. Eric Says:

    The ho is suddenly chatty after refusing to speak to the police for 11 months.

  29. INDYbucsfan Says:


  30. Nybucsfan Says:

    Eric why do you even talk you tried to pass yourself off as a lawyer on here. If she was doing it for money she should be a scout for the BUCS cause when she said he raped her he hadn’t even take a snap in college.

  31. Greg Schiano Says:

    The “Hunting Ground” should tell you everything about the Rapist Winston you need to know! I might scream if someone utters one more time that he was found to be innocent….if he had been in Pinellas County he would be doing 25 years! Rapist State University covered this up as did Winston…this film is the second video….Winston and the two animals who were standing their watching him “have consensual” sex with that female student while video taping the whole assault is the second video. All Winston had to do was provide the video to the Police and to the University. We would have NO conversation about this rape because the video would prove beyond “a reasonable doubt” in front of a jury….not (I can’t make a decision because it was he said/she said) as in the Title IX Hearing.

    I guarantee you if she says NO, then you go to jail. Why destroy the video?? I know the Buc’s need a QB and I know the Rapist is the most Pro Style ready, but he is just not worth the risk. Anyone who has a daughter, wife, sister, mother, aunt, neice, or just knows the nice girl next door cannot desire to watch this animal be paid millions as his arrogant as@$s gets away with this.

    Winston is not apologetic or even acknowledges that he may have made bad choices….he is a “QB” and he is “the man” so people make excuses for him…..look at Adrian Peterson. He loves his son and he unintentionally hit him too hard with a switch…he gets a year plus out of the NFL and is still being harrassed. Winston rapes a female student and he is the next coming of Joe Montana! I won’t use his name in the same sentence with Tom Brady or Dan Marino!!

    Joe knows the Buc’s need a QB…they just need one that does not believe he can rape women and the whole world will cover for him.

    Greg Schiano

  32. Eric Says:


    On the night in question she was trolling for an FSU football player. She found three of them.

    Went back to their apartment with them at 1:00 A.M. – from a night club.

    Sure sounds like a ho to me.

    She was in the “cleat club” after all.

  33. WS99 Says:


    Post yet another source but it’s awaiting moderation. If you want Google “erica kinsman fabwag”.

  34. Pat Says:

    A dilemma for us buc fans…WIN at all costs?

  35. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    OK…I guess this discussion lives on at JBF….so here’s my take and I apologize if I have repeated some of my opinion on this…

    Here is the problem Winston (Bucs) have with the rape allegation. Because of the incomplete (some say botched) investigation, we will likely never know the absolute truth. Unless the “victim” recants…it will permanently be a stain on Winston’s reputation. He can’t prove it didn’t happen and for many, they expect him to do that (impossible).
    Going forward, the Bucs have a huge PR problem on their hands with the NFL fans in general and their own fans primarily. Much of the fan base is female, some Christians….many with children…..and that also includes future potential fans.
    Sure, winning and Winston staying squeaky clean will help….but it will never be enough. If he is innocent he will suffer from loss of endorsements and extreme over-scrutiny.
    I have been of the opinion (as good as anyone’s) that the Glazers will pass on him in the end. Mariota is an alternative that is a safe choice and if the Bucs miss on him it will be because Mariota, himself doesn’t eventually perform at a high level.
    That is a much safer risk to take with an already battered fan base. I also think they have given Lovie assurance that he has the time to develop his Rookie QB whichever one he chooses. They can send strong messages that the hurdles to picking Winston are high….

  36. JoeJoes Fungi Nails Says:


  37. Eric Says:

    Go Jaboo!

    Not too much longer till you are hugging the commish as the number one pick in the draft.

    Well earned sir, welcome to Tampa.

  38. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    OK….it appears Joe has suspended his accompanying description of Shaun King.

    I will continue mine for a period of time to make sure Joe’s suspension isn’t temporary.

    “Shaun King, one of two Buc Quarterbacks that lost a NFC Championship Game when his defense gave up 11 or fewer points.”

  39. JoeJoes Fungi Nails Says:

    is Jaboo ?

  40. robert 9 Says:

    polygraph, otherwise he is a hiding the fact that he ra**d her. period.

    that picture is not her unless she grew 6 inches taller. all blonde haired white girl look alike dint ya know?


  41. SAMCRO Says:

    If Winston can pass a polygraph on the rape allegation, then I’m all in on him. Those who would actually oppose a polygraph, are afraid he may be found guilty. The fact is, if they were to administer a polygraph, the public would never get the results, but, if the Bucs were to pass on Winston in the draft, the public would speculate, that Winston must have failed his polygraph.

    So in lew of that, the Bucs are really somewhat forced into selecting Winston now. Even if they find out that Winston actually committed a felony after a failed polygraph. Because, unless they choose to ignore, or cover up the results, they will have to lie to us the real reason why they didn’t select him. Also, this could provoke Pam Bondi to re-open the allegation rape case, and subpoena the Bucs to hand over polygraph results to the state.

    This could be a mess and not good business for the NFL either. So, although I advocate there be a polygraph, I know there won’t be one. The Bucs will select Winston and all this will be swept under the rug, just like Tallahassee, cause “Jaboo got skills”.

    I just know this, If I were applying for a lucrative paying position, and I had all these same allegations swirling over my head, I would totally expect my new perspective employer to have me take a polygraph. Actually, I take that back, in the real world, most employers would not even deal with you to that point. But, when it comes to athletes, it’s more about their abilities than it is about their behavior, and colleges are the worst offenders when it comes to rewarding bad behavior, especially their star QB.

  42. Love and Warrick Dunn Says:

    “Nybucsfan Says:
    February 26th, 2015 at 5:23 pm

    Eric why do you even talk you tried to pass yourself off as a lawyer on here. If she was doing it for money she should be a scout for the BUCS cause when she said he raped her he hadn’t even take a snap in college.”

    If she wasn’t doing it for the money, then why did she and Auntie Lawyer disappear and say nothing to the press in:








    Then Mariota hurts his knee on November 7 and loses. FSU wins on November 9. On November 10, FSU moves above Oregon and Winston becomes the Heisman favorite.

    November 11th? You gue$$ed it, the accusations come out.

    They went away until he became valuable.

    Let’s say your daughter got raped (sorry, I don’t mean it crudely) If this was about rape, wouldn’t you be screaming about this the entire time? or the day Winston starts in August?

    No, they waited until he was valuable. Auntie Lawyer really seems concerned about her niece.

    What a joke.

  43. Eric Says:

    Lovie has already said he believes in the system and Jameis was exonerated. Reports are that the Glazers are comfortable with him being the pick.

    This is old news.

    I think folks are overstating the extent of any “protests”.

    Didn’t see any at the combine. Nor at any FSU games and the story has been around since 2012.

    The alleged victim stating version five on a documentary that tells one side of the story is not going to change a thing.

    The Supreme Court Justice, after an exhaustive hearing, did not believe her.

  44. WS99 Says:


    You are a rational person. Take a moment a search the young lady’s name. Read the various articles and tell me if you are convinced that he is in the wrong.

    There are police reports, photos, comments from people who alledgely know the accuser. There’s a lot of info out there from various sources all with similar conclusions.

  45. JoeJoes Fungi Nails Says:

    “Kinsman recounts the night she says Winston raped her at his apartment despite her pleas for him to stop and after his roommate also allegedly told him to stop. She said Winston gave her a ride on his scooter afterward and dropped her off near her dorm. In the early morning hours after she returned home, she went to the hospital and also filed a police report about the alleged assault”

  46. tye Says:

    For JW own sake I hope he is good at baseball because This FSU nation is setting him up to be the greatest disappointment to ever enter the NFL…. It is going to be interesting to see what they say in 2 years when he doesn’t live up to all this exaggeration… Over rated is an understatement…

  47. WS99 Says:

    Robert 9

    Really bro? That’s where you went with that? How do you know it’s not her? Same pic on multiple websites.

    So here’s the truth either FSU, TPD, Judges, pictures, reports, HER OWN FRIENDS, Winston are all lying or the accuser is lying. Obviously the accuser could not be lying.

    “The only thing he is guilty of is sleeping with a crazy a** cleat chaser who got mad, because he wouldn’t leave his girlfriend for her. They hooked up that night (as they had other nights) only this time, Jameis Winston’s girlfriend was coming into town. So he couldn’t stay. Things got heated, and she started basically beating the crap out of him. So naturally, he tried tried to restrain her.”

  48. WS99 Says:

    So after I rape you I give you a ride home? That totally makes sense.

  49. robert 9 Says:

    she is a skank ho.

    pretty hard for a ho to say she was raped and anyone believe it

    i don’t doubt she’s a cleat chasin, skank a$$, nob gobbler OK.

    but other than being a bimbo ho, what else do we have to think she might be lying? what histroy?

    jameis on the other hand has show questionable character and morals consistently, thinks he is untouchable and to me anyway, is a flat out psychopath based on his actions.

    we’ll never know what happened in that room in the end. if he wants to clear his name take a poly. how hard is that?

  50. CreamsicleBananaHammock Says:

    Required reading for Robert 9:


  51. Tampabaybucfan Says:


    I am convinced there is not enough evidence and that her credibility is highly questionable…..It’s not my own opinion that concerns me….it’s simply the way things are…..others won’t take the time…..the general public and many fans will convict him in the court of public opinion.

    I am good with Winston being selected and will support him wholeheartedly with my freinds and family.

    I just, in my gut, feel like the Owners won’t be able to pull the trigger on him.

  52. Love and Warrick Dunn Says:

    I don’t think it started as a money grab.

    If you look at the records, Erica told her friends, but, she didn’t call the police, she didn’t call her parents.

    Her friends did that. And once they were involved, it got away from her. Why tell her friends she was raped? Maybe a woman scorned? Maybe so her bf Jamal Roberts didn’t find out she was banging other guys?

    Think about it, she never reported it. And, then, her aunt the atty gets involved (the one that said she didn’t date “black boys”), and the investigation goes from dead from roughly Feb/March, all the way to November when he becomes the Heisman candidate?

    I think if Mariota never hurts his knee, and Winston never becomes the Heisman favorite, they never go the media.

    Otherwise, explain the 7 months of silence until such a strategic time (the day after he becomes the Heisman fav).

    If your niece got raped by the starting QB for FSU, would you stand silent as he starts in August and September and November, and so on….

    Or would you scream it in March, April, May, June, July, August, September, October?

  53. OAR Says:

    “draft guru Shaun King”…….And everybody’s a karate expert, when they run into a spider web.

  54. Love and Warrick Dunn Says:

    robert 9 Says:
    February 26th, 2015 at 6:02 pm

    “is a flat out psychopath based on his actions.”

    Sociopaths can easily beat lie detectors. (“Jerry, it’s not a lie if you believe it”)

    And, I guarantee people would say he just beat the machine if he passed the test. No question in my mind.

    As I have said, there are people who have made up their minds regardless. Erica could admit she lied in court, and people would say she was lying or took a payoff.

  55. pick6 Says:

    WS99 – irreconcilable fact number 5,000 in this incident – “here, now that we’re done with that non-consensual sex, why don’t you jump on my scooter with me and i’ll drop you off?”

  56. WS99 Says:

    Hell hath no fury ….

  57. Nybucsfan Says:

    How the hell would I know what the lawyer was doing. Why did FSU and the police wait 11 months to get it to the state attorney. I’m just saying he wasn’t worth ten cents and didn’t have ten cents never even took a college snap the night she called the police about being raped. So the money thing is a little dumb to think that was the reasoning behind it unless see could see the future better than anyone.

  58. 87ForWinstonNOMariota Says:

    Nybucsfan…I just can’t see all these people covering up for a not even starting QB of the local football team. You can and that’s your right.

    All these people risked their jobs reputation and jail time for a nobody at the time.


  59. OAR Says:

    I’ve seen monkey-$hit fights at the zoo that are more organized than this.

  60. Dave Pear Says:

    Robert 9 told me on 2/20/2015 that he was raped by a college QB in the back seat of a car that had been stolen by Barry.

  61. Eric Says:

    Very simple NY, the victim said she did not want to prosecute during those 11 months.

    Her attorney was the one talking to the police as per her wishes.

    After the news was going to break on it, because news agencies had requested the police report, did she change her mind and decide she wanted it prosecuted.

    All of this is well documented in the reports.

    But the bottom line is that this documentary adds no new information. It’s the same info that the police, state attorney, and the Supreme Court Judge had.

    Already baked in the cake.

  62. Eric Says:

    I don’t think the girl was looking for someone to accuse of rape.

    She was spreading herself around trying to land an FSU football player. Ergo the eagerness to join three of them, by herself, at their apt.

    That was about $…..ie the cleats club.

  63. Pat Says:

    Shhhhhhhhhh…Then blow out those candles, it’s getting too smoky here with this….It Factor.

  64. Barry Says:

    Not only is #TheCreep the smartest accused rapist ever to play QB, he’s the smartest QB ever except for Peyton Manning.

    And not only is #TheCreep the most clutch accused rapist ever to play QB, he’s the most clutch QB ever except for Joe Montana.

    Think about that a minute! P.Manning and Montana.

    I’m thinking he’s a sure fire Hall of Famer, Right? He’s got to be the greatest prospect ever coming out. Wouldn’t you agree? He has to be. Manning/Montana. I’ll be dammed, #TheCreep #HOF

    Isn’t it curious though?

    You would think you’d hear about teams, even if rumored, attempting move Heaven and Earth for a chance to grab the future #HOFer #TheCreep?
    Right? But you don’t. However; you do hear about teams, even if rumored, looking to move up to acquire Marcus Mariota. Now I find that interesting, don’t you?

    IMO, I think teams are hoping Bucs screw the pooch, and draft #TheCreep, thus making a move up to grab Mariota more manageable. What is it you’re not seeing?

  65. Pickgrin Says:

    Love and Warrick – I agree with you that it was not a $ grab at first. But you are unsure as to what the motivation was initially to claim rape if there was no rape.

    I will tell you my theory. As the backdrop – consider that Erica was obviously scared of her family finding out that she was dating a “black boy” as her aunt put it. So the night that she went back to Winston’s apartment and had sex with him – she knew that Winston’s roommate had video of part of the encounter because she saw him through the partly opened door holding his phone up steadily with the red record light on. She was afraid that video of her having sex with a “black boy” might just get out. So she claimed rape in order to cover her bases just in case that video made it onto the internet or whatever. If the video did come out – then she had a ready made excuse to tell her family as to why she was seen on video having sex with a “black boy”.

    That’s my theory at least. Could be BS – but it makes as much or more sense as any other reason I’ve seen as to why she would claim rape if that was not the case.

    Once the lawyer aunt got involved – THEN it started to become about $ once they researched and found out that Winston was a 5 star blue chip QB recruit who might well be worth million$ in 2 or 3 years. And then the point come where it was all about the $ – because once it became obvious that Winston will never be charged for this accusation – there is no motivation other than $ that would prompt them to continue with this charade.

  66. Dave Pear Says:

    It’s obvious to most sane people.
    Tell me what teams tried to make a trade with the Colts for Luck?
    And can I have my car back?

  67. Pickgrin Says:

    #barryisacarthief #barryflocksgoatsinthecarshesteals

  68. Barry Says:

    Nobody compared Luck to P.Manning and J.Montana. You can have you little yellow Hybrid back. I tried to sell it to some illegal Mexicans crossing the border back into Mexico for some donkey porn, they told me to F&%k off.

  69. Dreambig Says:

    @NY. The police dropped it the first time because of inconsistencies in her story not enough evidence and she quit cooperating with (according to the officer). jeeze … How many people would have to be corrupt after 3 investigations involving the police, state attorneys office, And FSU for this to be a cover up? To 87s point, why do that for an unknown player? Unfortunately I find TBBFs take pretty logical. No one will ever know with certainty what happened but due process was served and her story reeks of buyers remorse during the after morning walk of shame.

  70. Dave Pear Says:

    So, you like donkey porn?
    That explains a lot.
    I loved that yellow hybrid.

  71. Pickgrin Says:

    go away car thief. You have been permanently branded now and everyone knows what a piece of chit you are because everyone knows you steal cars and flock goats in the back of them.

  72. Eric Says:

    “Some illegal Mexicans”


  73. Barry Says:

    Story of Jameis Winston’s accuser to be told in documentary (story on NFL.com)

    At the NFL Scouting Combine last week in Indianapolis, Tampa Bay Buccaneers coach Lovie Smith and GM Jason Licht both expressed cautious optimism that the team’s background checks on Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston would come back satisfactory. But both were also clear that their dig into the former Heisman Trophy winner wasn’t yet complete.

    And it likely won’t be without a look at a documentary set for release in select theaters this week.

    The Hunting Ground, a film about sexual assault on college campuses, includes a detailed account from the woman who accused Winston of sexual assault in December 2012. The movie premieres in New York and Los Angeles on Friday.

    “We’re grateful it’s the first time people will get to hear (her) story,” director Kirby Dick told Sports Illustrated. “It’s her first-hand testimony. Up to this point it hasn’t been in a public space.”

  74. OneBuC55 Says:

    The same guys get on here everyday and bash a man that by law is innocent…News Flash Winston Bashers since you guys fell outta heaven this morning, and are perfect…Women lie better than men, and so far this chick sucks at it (literally)…there is a such a thing as a “Gold Digger” you know…Why did she change her story so many times?? If she had a boyfriend why does she WILLINGLY agree to go back to some “random” guys apartment at 2 am???why did she delete text messages?????I guarantee she couldn’t pass a polygraph…

    Really understand this, The State of Florida throws God only knows how many young African-American males in prison everyday…Why in the hell would they spare Winston??…Winston was not convicted because there was no proof that she was raped period…Can this kid please move on…

    Now that I got that off my chest…

    Undeniable proof that Winston is the real deal…(Around the 5 minute mark of the video pay attention to a series of highlights that really showcase Winston’s mobility)…

    Jameis WINston Highlights…http://youtu.be/t1hpBfQnmQ4

    Just a reminder to the Mariota Homers…Winston finished the deal once and only lost in his final game…Mariota flopped and quit on the biggest stage…

    JW’s Championship Game Winning drive…http://youtu.be/W1RfHOAUCN4

  75. Eric Says:

    Might me time for the famous Dave Pear head slap, sack, and fist pump…..

  76. Dave Pear Says:

    I’m on it!

  77. Eric Says:

    Her testimony hasn’t been public??????

    The police reports and her statement to the Supreme Court Justice have been in the public domain for a long time.

    That documentary is nothing more that an agenda to try and create the impression that rapes on college campuses are an epidemic. Thus, the sensationalized title. When, in fact, the incidents of rape on college campuses is declining.

  78. Erik with CleanAthletics.com Says:


  79. lurker Says:


  80. Erik with CleanAthletics.com Says:

    Shaun King makes a fair point, but he’s an idiot overall. How bout Mariota showing that he has a strong arm and can throw from the pocket and take drops from under center just a good as Winston? Of course that’s not talked about. Oh, well. It’ll be talked about when Mariota’s our QB, I’m sure….

  81. Barry Says:

    A Father’s daughter was raped, and according to her by Jameis Winston. And you call this child a Gold Digger? All for what you believe is a Franchise QB? Oh, your sins are great.

  82. lurker Says:

    foolish, foolish erik smh
    (hint: don’t attack the joes)

  83. lurker Says:

    ahhhhhhhhh explains a lot..barry a judgmental, christian hypocrite

  84. Dave Pear Says:

    Dude, you’re the one into donkey porn, and our sins are great?
    Get a grip weirdo.

  85. Yungry Says:

    Next time Winston should pull a Sapp…

  86. Barry Says:

    Oh, the hate I receive for stating my opinion about Winston. Never have I called anyone on this board names. #ForTheRecord BTW, I don’t care either. But my opinion on your accused Rapist is really throwing you off your game people. I can understand Pear getting thrown off his game, I mean how times have we seen that.

  87. Dave Pear Says:

    “I mean how times have we seen that.”
    And I’m off MY game?
    Go steal another car.
    Something you’re actually good at.

  88. Barry Says:

    Your wife, my ex girlfriend used to love watching donkey porn. It was out thing.

    And the rest of you guys hanging on his nutts like he was something, Pear was nothing, then or now. Come on , if you’re going to idolize some washed up never has been choice someone who used to have talent. Nothing against you Pear but you’re living off what, one tackle?

  89. Pickgrin Says:

    Erik with CleanAthletics.com Says:
    February 26th, 2015 at 7:36 pm
    How bout Mariota showing that he has a strong arm and can throw from the pocket and take drops from under center just as good as Winston? Of course that’s not talked about.


    Its not being talked about because its not true. Mariota’s performance in the drills was good but it was certainly NOT “just as good as Winston”.

  90. Love and Warrick Dunn Says:


    No, no, no. You’ve got it twisted. It’s not hate. The reason people are saying things about you stems from following post from Nick. If you fail to comprehend the logic behind it, then, that’s on you:

    Nick Says:
    February 25th, 2015 at 3:14 pm

    Barry, I’m accusing you of stealing my car. Doesn’t matter that you didn’t, the investigation will prove you didn’t and any judge/arbitrator will rule the same. For the rest of my days I will tell anyone I meet that I have accused you of stealing my car. Fair?

  91. Erik with CleanAthletics.com Says:

    tmoron says Winston is the safest pick in the draft?!??? Wow…. What a tool. He’s obviously an employee and not an employer…

  92. lurker Says:

    barry, you attack non-stop mr. winston, on these boards. you have never met the man. and who are you to judge? i thought that was left to your made-up god?


  93. 87ForWinstonNOMariota Says:

    Classic post by Nick btw.

  94. Dave Pear Says:

    Wow! Just Wow!
    So, you truly do LOVE donkey porn?
    And, of course stealing cars.
    Can you say Coo-Coo for Cocoa Puffs?

  95. Dreambig Says:

    @barry. 1692 called, they would like you to come back to Salem, they need your flawless logic to help burn a few more witches. Oh can you wash Daves car before you return it?

  96. Barry Says:

    I mean Pear, i’ve seen more dead Iraqis in Operation Desert Shield that had more talent then you did. Not to be hateful but just being honest. You all say I steal cars, i’m ok with that but dude stop living off past that wasn’t very good to begin with. You and the rest of your groupies get really pissed when people disagree with you Jameis Winston. You happen to like rapists but other aren’t as forgiven.

  97. 87ForWinstonNOMariota Says:

    Posted: 02/26/2015, 10:19am | David Just –Chicago Sun Times

    “We’ve heard great scouting reports on Mariota and less-than-great ones.”

    “One thing we do know is Mariota’s stock has been falling. ESPN’s Mel Kiper had Mariota as the second pick in his first mock draft, then bumped him to No. 6 in his second go-round. Todd McShay had Mariota at No. 1 in his first mock draft and also bumped him to No. 6 in the latest.”

  98. Erik with CleanAthletics.com Says:

    Ok, I don’t want to get into a rape discussion bcuz my issues with Winston are more about the on-the-field stuff (slow delivery, questionable decision making, mediocre athleticism) and I’m not judging the dude about some incident that I didn’t witness, but…. For the record, if a hammered drunk girl ‘consensually’ has sex with a guy for the first time while she’s intoxicated, technically it is classified as ‘rape’ bcuz she was not of sound mind to make the decision.

    Alright, fire away #WinstonWhackos

  99. Dave Pear Says:

    .04 is not intoxicated.
    End of story.

  100. Erik with CleanAthletics.com Says:

    Dave Pear, fair enough.

    I honestly just like Mariota better bcuz of the elite athleticism combined with his intelligence, character, & strong arm.

  101. Pickgrin Says:

    Erik – how about just examining all the evidence for yourself so people don’t have to keep correcting your mis-statements. SMH

    She was not “hammered”. Testimony of everyone who witnessed (including her friends) said that she was not drunk much less wasted drunk. Blood alcohol level 3 hours later when blood was taken was .04 so there’s proof she wasn’t “hammered”. There were no drugs whatsoever in her system despite her claims that she was “drugged”.

    According to the statement given to police by Erica’s friend Monika who was there with her at the bar – after Erica received a text to come outside from Winston’s roommate – she showed her friend the text and there was a discussion between them about Erica going with Winston and his friends. Monica questioned if it was a good idea – Erica said she wanted to go and Monica said “if you want to go- then go”. Erica was out the door within a matter of seconds. So don’t even try suggesting that she didn’t go home with them willingly. I guess she must have figured a nice game of Yatzee was awaiting her at the boys apartment – right?

  102. Yungry Says:


  103. Pickgrin Says:

    I like Mariota too Erik – but “elite athleticism” does not a great NFL QB make.

    There is a reason that Winston is now at the top of 85-90% of every draft board in the country. You think Mariota is the better QB obviously – but a vast majority of NFL experts disagree with your assessment – so you don’t have much of a leg to stand on in trying to make the argument that Mariota is a better QB than Winston.

    Many experts were projecting Mariota #1 for awhile – but almost always with the caveat that if Winston didn’t have the “character concerns” then he would be the easy choice for #1. Now that everyone has seen the proof for themselves that Jameis is not trouble with a capital T – they are rightfully reverting back to just looking at tape and who is the best QB – and it is Winston by a pretty wide margin.

  104. blahblahblah2015 Says:

    If Winston was pick number 15 no one would have a problem with him being drafted, by the way @Barry where is my Hyundai..

  105. knuckledragger Says:

    I saw Barry rescuing some Kittens yesterday.

  106. Connor Says:

    Everyone on here seems to forget that Tallahassee PD always cuts the Florida State players slack when it comes to getting in trouble. They’re as corrupt as you can get.

  107. Pat Says:

    Picked No.15?…someonE is gonna have that Geno/Johnny ‘moment’ lol.

  108. Jameisisnotarapist Says:

    You idiots who refuse to research the case amaze me. Explain to me why she was found to have multiple semen types on her face and clothing? Why the rape kit found no drugs in her system, a low level of alcohol and no signs of a rape!

  109. Nick Says:


    Let’s settle this once and for all:

    Is the dress black and blue or white and gold?

  110. loggedontosay Says:

    robert 9 Says:
    February 26th, 2015 at 4:22 pm
    exactly what negative perceptions did he put to rest?

    we all knew he was arrogant, cocky etc. what did he do different?

    answer any questions on his off the field stuff? no, no comment.

    for me he looked good on the field. the players probably like his cockiness……but he came across as a real a$$ who thinks he’s already at the top of the mountain.

    no where to go but down.

    figment of your imagination

  111. Pat Says:

    Q: What do you get when you compile a list of immature QBs and lump sum them altogether?

    A: Mediocre. 587 TDs + 524 INTs

    NFL Career
    Immature QB TD INT
    Josh Freeman 80 67
    Ryan Leaf 14 36
    Jamarcus Russell 18 23
    Jeff George 154 113
    Tim Couch 64 67
    Michael Vick 131 87
    Vince Young 46 51
    Matt Leinart 15 21
    Geno Smith 25 34
    Johnny Manziel 0 2
    RGIII 40 23

  112. lurker Says:

    you’re just silly pat. that is just your weak-assed opinion,

    you all can keep liking the second-best qb prospect, i will take mr. winston #1.

    win, it’s in his name
    #winninwithwinston #justwinstonbaby

    just say no to marcus mediocre.

  113. lurker Says:

    mike sando article:

    This (offensive) coach and others think Winston needs less space than Mariota needs to feel comfortable within the pocket and that he is more natural moving within the pocket, in part because taking off for a long run isn’t an option for him. Coaches also see in Winston a quarterback who has shown much greater ability to vary the way he throws the ball to beat specific coverages.

    “I just love how Winston feels stuff,” one of the coaches said. “[Mariota] is very similar to Colin Kaepernick but probably has a little better arm because Kaep is so low with his release all the time. [Mariota] has more arm angles but always throws it flat. Winston will throw it perfectly with enough arc and zip to get it up and down before the safety arrives. He has a real natural feel. He is the guy who can pick up any ball and play any sport and beat you.”

  114. Pat Says:

    Maybe you are not a history buff; that’s fine. But in the end, the saying goes “the definition of insanity is continuing to do the same exact thing and expect different results.” This certainly applies to NFL Draft when it comes to immature quarterbacks. Teams have thought for decades that they can change the course of the unfledged signal-callers. But by all means they shouldn’t really rely on history to pick their possible faces of their franchise. Right?


  115. Buczilla Says:

    Sigh… Barry, quit stealing cars, raping donkeys, and being a bad influence on Robert9. Yungry, yes we get it. Winston stole food and soda, he is a criminal. We can be thankful at least that Winston HAS NOT raped anyone (donkeys included).

  116. lurker Says:

    funny how you keep grasping at straws, pat.

    so where is the evidence? one writer picks some quarterbacks who didn’t make it and he calls them immature, and that that is the reason? smh

    that is a poor premises because it is his opinion on who is “immature”. how do you quantify immature? lmao

    was marino immature? ben roethlisberger? hell, brady reported to the combine overweight and out of shape.

    i am sure there are many reasons that quarterbacks don’t make it in the nfl, reasons that are real.

    ps who’s definition of insanity is that? because merriam-webster states “something that is very foolish or unreasonable” that sounds like you and your constant assault on mr. winston.

  117. Meat Says:

    I don’t care about his sexual assault issues- I care about him being an a$$hole. To me it is just proof he isn’t a great character guy- clearly he pissed the girl off at the very least. Also- he is playing against one man in the superb owl next year per his stellar combine presser… And as far as the white board with mooch- I play Madden and I can tell u if u press a corner with a single Hugh safety I’m tossing it over your head for a TD. I literally have never played QB and I could have done exactly what he did on that whiteboard. 99% of the analysts are never real (gruden) and don’t give honey assessments for fear of passing off the good old boy NFL network. If Gruden was asked point blank- which QB should the Bucs take overall, he would waffle and tell u they are both good and it depends on personnel and coaching and the right fit… Never taking a true stance. Same with Mooch- everyone is great.

  118. Pat Says:

    Let’s leave it to the ones who really calls the shots. I guess pov differs but it will all filter out on draft day. Whoever it is we will roll with. Correct?

  119. Daniel Says:

    It doesn’t matter if you think hes’ an a$$hole it matters what the players think and it’s pretty unanimous NFL players admired his confidence. So unless you are in the locker room and on the field with the guy it really doesn’t matter how arrogant he is. What you as fans should be worried about is will he bring in Ws.

    I still miss to see the arrogance in his PC, he said he wants to compete against the best, and wants to be in the Superbowl. What a d!ck setting the bar high for himself, no champion ever strives to be elite… This is why he is going to be the #1 draft pick and you are sitting at a desk living a mediocre life. I hope Jameis is the exact opposite of the people calling him arrogant. To be the best you got to believe you’re the best. The players understand that, you ranters clearly don’t.

  120. Daniel Says:


    Every time you bring up the accused rape you sound like a got durn reh-tard. Accused, glad you take a college girl’s word over government officials who did everything they could to find evidence of a rape. Remind me to never ask you any logical questions. #stopstealingcars

    Please talk football or stop wasting all of our time.

  121. Daniel Says:


    Have you ever been inside a football locker room? The pranks, rookie hazing, and tomfoolery can all be signs of immaturity. Just because Winston was under a microscope and everything he did went viral doesn’t make him any more immature than other prospects. Let me know when he violates laws, NCAA, or NFL policy then we’ll take you seriously until then please spare us your opinion on immature athletes.

  122. Pat Says:

    Locker room? The bathroom? Where do you think I’m going with this? It’s called exiting the field (stage) left, and entering the REAL world. Wake up and smell the coffee and GROW up please.

  123. Pat Says:

    One seems to already made it to the top of the mountain. But loves the thrill of danger that he precariously tests the cliff’s edge, saying to himself, what can go wrong? And the other one still continuing his upward climb keeps going with resolve, one step at a time, upward, with Purpose, knowing he will make it to the apex. Immaturity versus Maturity

  124. Daniel Says:

    So is Winston already standing on top of the mountain, and Mariota making his way one step at a time? The only questionable aspect of climber one was the thought ‘what can go wrong.’

    You won’t hear too many CEOs tell you they got where they are from not taking any risk, I want a risk taker someone to test the limits that’s how you reach the top.

    Maybe the players like Winston because he is REAL, he refuses to put on an act. Sounds like you should go to New York and write reviews for Off Broadway.

    I would also love to know what the REAL world is, especially to million dollar athletes, because apparently the hard work, sacrifice and dedication these players put into their career doesn’t qualify as real life to you…

  125. Pat Says:

    Not sure what you mean ‘by refusing to put on an act’…Does that mean what you see On & Off the field is NOT an act, correct? What you see is what you get? The world revolves around who? It seems the REAL world became distorted into a MY OWN LITTLE world to someone I see.