Mike Evans “Would Love To Have” Winston
January 7th, 2015
A mentor of Mike Evans says the Bucs’ star rookie has a strong opinion on Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston.
For those who missed it earlier, BSPN delivered word from Winston’s father that Winston will declare for the NFL Draft today and not stay in school. You can read about that here.
After learning of the report, Joe did a rare thing: Joe turned on BSPN. And on the tube was a roundtable of experts chatting about how Winston is NFL-ready with his mad skills.
One of the dudes talking was offensive guru and Texas A&M head coach Kevin Sumlin, who coached Mike Evans last year.
Sumlin, who has long lauded Evans, closed the Winston segment as follows: “I know this. Mike Evans would love to have him.”
Sumlin isn’t some sort of blowhard headline grabber. He’s a friend of Lovie Smith, and Joe suspects that comment was the real deal.
Evans is just 4 1/2 months older than Winston. How cool would it be to have Vincent Jackson mentoring those two young men?
January 7th, 2015 at 1:10 pm
VJAX mentoring: “Now to force your way out of this franchise, here’s is what you do…”
January 7th, 2015 at 1:14 pm
lol pay Vjax more he deserves it to watch those two.
January 7th, 2015 at 1:17 pm
Hell fans might show up in the stands to watch Winston throw passes to Evans, VJ, & ASJ. I don’t think anyone will show up if it’s McCown throwing those passes.
January 7th, 2015 at 1:26 pm
Fans show up to see a winner. Stands were packed when Chirs Simms and Jeff Garcia were the QBs. And they would be if McCown won games this year too. But he was an unmitigated disaster. That said we need to sacrifice his body for one more year while the rookie learns (and mostly avoids getting David Carr’d by the offensive line)
January 7th, 2015 at 1:30 pm
It’s sounds like a bunch of B.S to me!
January 7th, 2015 at 1:30 pm
I’m for Winston, but I think Evans would prefer anybody over the current facilitators of the football in. Tampa Bay, then again who Quarterbacks the Storm
January 7th, 2015 at 1:31 pm
bribe trestman – draft winston
Mike Evans would have been clear cut rookie of the year even with an average QB this year. darn right he’d be happy.
January 7th, 2015 at 1:33 pm
Yeah ok . I’m sure Evans would Mariito more but since it was only about Winston what else would he say? Mike wouldn’t play for him. Wow… Keep stretching Joe. The BS is getting deeper and wider.
January 7th, 2015 at 1:36 pm
What a combo that would be.
Please don’t screw this up.
January 7th, 2015 at 1:38 pm
I don’t think anyone is questioning Winston’s ability. Dude is a stud! I also believe he is the most NFL ready QB in the draft. The few full games I watched of Mariota did not leave me impressed with his overall passing abilities. The questions I have are with Winston’s character. I certainly do not wish this upon him but how useful is a 1st overall pick if he finds himself kicked out of the league or in prison within the first 2 years because of off the field issues? Unfortunately that seems like the direction he is headed. I hope I’m wrong about him though.
January 7th, 2015 at 1:42 pm
Hey Goober. The quote was Kevin Sumlin ME’s coach at A&M said Evans would love to have Winston. That’s the problem with most people, no reading comprehension skills. Sorry state of poorly educated Americans, get yor ADD under control.
January 7th, 2015 at 1:43 pm
JoeNolesWinstonFan.com
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January 7th, 2015 at 1:53 pm
Hopefully, Joe has no influence in the overall scouting and drafting room…..Winston, besides his character flaws, is not the next Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck! I just don’t understand the hype over this guy. As a matter of fact, I don’t see either Winston or Mariota going in the Top 10 in this year’s draft (assuming that they both come out for the 2015 Draft; I’m not exactly believing that Winston’s Daddy made that comment!)
January 7th, 2015 at 1:57 pm
Another clown . He is better than mariota . Kiser just said he would take Winston over mariota and so did her Edwards. Guess everyone is a fsu homer.
January 7th, 2015 at 1:57 pm
Wow Joe…what do you think Evan’s coach would say? He is in Evans corner, and would likely say that Evan’s would love to play with Marcus as well.
Honestly, do you think a former HC that wanted to see you be successful would ever say anything to alienate one of his star former players and his potential future QB?
Come on man……
Now if he said that Evans should do much better with a QB like Winston than he ever did with Party Smurf Manziel….yes, that would be a news breaking comment.
Simple answer: Sumlin didn’t have to say anything. He wasn’t asked. –Joe
January 7th, 2015 at 1:57 pm
I don’t like Winston but if the Bucs draft him I will be his biggest fan just like I was every bucs QB. Just hope they get it right!!!
January 7th, 2015 at 2:00 pm
It’s a no brainer. Tell lovie do everything he can to get that stud that was hiking him the ball late in the season in the 2nd round(if he’s there).
January 7th, 2015 at 2:00 pm
VJax ….or Fitzgerald? hmmm…..
January 7th, 2015 at 2:01 pm
This site is eerily reminiscent of last year and all the Johnny Football articles, I hope it turns out the same way this year as it did last year!!!
January 7th, 2015 at 2:03 pm
The coach would have said nothing if he did not believe it. Like Joe said,meh is a straight shooter.
January 7th, 2015 at 2:04 pm
Wouldn’t Mike Evans just be Winston’s 2015 version of Kelvin Benjamin Circa 2013?
January 7th, 2015 at 2:05 pm
Hey, Joe… Did you hear Jim Mora’s comments about Mariota yesterday? Of course you wouldn’t write an article about that…. SMH.
January 7th, 2015 at 2:05 pm
Don’t count johny out yet. He has not even played two full games.
January 7th, 2015 at 2:06 pm
@KeithInTampa
He doesn’t have to be the next Manning or Luck he just needs to come in and win ball games! He can Big Ben, Cam Newton, or Joe Flacco I DON’T CARE! I just want a player (who is NOT a project) who also has a buttload of talent being our QB next year!
You can not knock the fact that Winston has more talent than any other QB to come out since Manning except for Luck! The kid is a baller. Mark my words he gets drafted and wins games. Even you will turn into a fan.
Personally i really don’t care which one gets picked they both look like they will have long successful careers in the league. I will cheer for either. But my personal opinion is that Mariota is a project that will need time to adjust to the NFL, Time Lovie and the Buccaneers just don’t have any more. Winston is a plug and play QB.
January 7th, 2015 at 2:06 pm
Illinois State University 2015 Division I football national champions?…Go Redbirds……
January 7th, 2015 at 2:07 pm
I think I’ll go with Winston. Just to piss off all the Mariota fans.
January 7th, 2015 at 2:08 pm
To quote Jim Mora:
“I’ve played him twice, I’ve watched him a ton of times,” the UCLA coach said. “He is going to be a spectacular NFL quarterback. He’s poised, he’s big, he’s fast, he’s physical.
“There are people who question his arm strength. … He has zero flaws. This is as great a quarterback as I’ve ever seen at this point in his career. I love the kid. I love his personality.”
January 7th, 2015 at 2:10 pm
Mariota is the intelligent pick, Winston is the idiotic pick.
January 7th, 2015 at 2:10 pm
Does not matter because with Lovie Smith as the HC no matter who gets picked, they will be running for their lives until Team Glazer gets their act together and hires a legit Head Coach. Lovie is not talented enough to coach Friday Nite Tykes, let alone an NFL team.
As for the Rapist Winston, the female student who was raped while being video taped by the two animals who roomed with Winston just filed a suit against FSU in Federal Court! If it was consensual, the Rapist Winston and roomies could have simply shown the video tape and proved their position. Instead, all 3 animals failed to answer one (1) questions and destroyed the evidence. If anyone in real life had a son who was accused of this crime, that son would be doing 15 to life right now. FSU and Tallahassee PD protected Winston and he was shielded from the law.
So, in 2017 or before when Winston does this crap again, he will be on the NFL’s Exempt List with Greg Hardy, the Buc’s will be paying him while he is suspended for 16 games awaiting trial….and Lovie will be back in his basement trying to con another NFL team after going 10-54 with the Buc’s over his first 4 seasons.
Yes, Winston can throw a football, but in the NFL FSU and TPD (Tallahassee not Tampa PD) will not be there to shield him from the NFL Commish! Need a new HC and a new OC before anyone picks a QB otherwise it will be the same thing on the Lovie Loser Network!!
Greg Schiano
January 7th, 2015 at 2:10 pm
I’ll say Evans would love to have Mariota throwing him the ball. Hell, Evans would be happier with any QB other than McCown throwing him the ball. Let’s see if ESPN will post that.
January 7th, 2015 at 2:12 pm
Jim Mora also invested his NFL career in Michael Vick! So You really go with his judgment of QB’s?
January 7th, 2015 at 2:13 pm
people will believe what they wanna believe, if sumlin had said mariotta instead then they they’d say it must be true lol this is nothing like lovie saying mike glennon is the future hahaha that was so funny….if your star receiver wants Winston then ill just say that the bucs wont decide which qb to draft until they conduct interviews on both guys…..cant wait until they both have a pro day with our new offensive coordinator
January 7th, 2015 at 2:16 pm
Illinois State University 2015 Division I FCS football national champions?…Go Redbirds……
Yes it is the FCS….but we will take it….
January 7th, 2015 at 2:17 pm
Bo Jim, that’s exactly what Joe’s doing lol. That’s the only logical explanation for his Winston support.
January 7th, 2015 at 2:18 pm
@Greg Schiano
Rutgers doesn’t get quarterbacks who want to play in the nfl so how would you know about evaluating quarterbacks
January 7th, 2015 at 2:18 pm
@ Joe – getting pretty sick of your rants. Site was cool for a few weeks but this Winston drama is pathetic. Looks like I’ll go elsewhere.
Pretty sad guys.
January 7th, 2015 at 2:19 pm
I’ll go with Jim Mora’s judgement of QB’s over Joe’s any day of the week.
January 7th, 2015 at 2:20 pm
And Mora even has a potential 1st round QB of his own and he’s still talking about Mariota in such high regard.
January 7th, 2015 at 2:24 pm
HEY JOE!!! What about the second girl that winston raped?
Uh-oh!!!!
January 7th, 2015 at 2:25 pm
Joe…he saw a chance to express his opinion and did it in a way that was good for his former star….I’d do the same thing….
Simple answer….if they had been talking about Marcus and he had said Winston, that would have been significant. But I thought the article said that Winston was the discussion topic. Do you mean it was significant that he mentioned his former star that he knew played for the Bucs as a receiver when talking in a round table setting about a top one or two QB? I’m not professional sports journalism guy, but that doesn’t seem that unexpected to me. It would be about as shocking as Jon Gruden said he loved him as a player.
January 7th, 2015 at 2:28 pm
And Joe…you do know if ISU wins this upcoming championship game, it will be my tag line for 2015, don’t you?
January 7th, 2015 at 2:32 pm
I think Joe is a closet Mariota fan, but that’s so much less controversial. We are all getting duped.
January 7th, 2015 at 2:37 pm
Mariota all day, Winston not for Tampa Bay.
January 7th, 2015 at 2:39 pm
Winston’s rape accuser filed a Federal Lawsuit against FSU today for failing to investigate incident properly……and the hits just keep on coming……
January 7th, 2015 at 2:42 pm
the real controversy lies in the pure hatred some have for Winston. What happen to forgive and forget or second chances. I hope you folks judging this man for his mistakes are perfect. He is a bonehead that is no doubt and he put himself in bad situations that being said he is not Charles Manson or Stalin. Everyone has the right to hate Winston but making crap up and labeling him a criminal and a rapist is just ignorant and your point could be made without the use of those terms. Winston is the right and only choice the bucs have. After 2-14 season Lovie does not have time to wait on Mariota to develop.
I am also surprised that Derrick Brooks support of Winston has not toned down some of the hate locally but I guess the haters know more than Brooks does too.
January 7th, 2015 at 2:45 pm
@ Tmaxcon… You sir, are an idiot.
January 7th, 2015 at 2:51 pm
@Madmax
Fitzgerald for sure
January 7th, 2015 at 2:52 pm
Erik
So, let me get this clear, I am an idiot because you disagree with my opinion. So your opinion is the only one that is relevant? Yet you are not intelligent enough to provide a better rebuttal than “you sir, are an idiot” that’s the best you got. You are exactly the uneducated fool my post is directed at. I guarantee you are far from perfect sir. People in glass houses should not throw rocks.” Work on your rebuttals. Try and put sentences together first then work you way up gradually to paragraphs containing original thought. Just trying to help being the nice guy that I am.
January 7th, 2015 at 2:52 pm
@Joe
Stop with the straw men!
“I know this. Mike Evans would love to have him.”
But did he ever say how Mike Evans felt about having Mariota. Isn’t that the question. Most of the ardent Jameis critics here prefer Mariota but we’d certainly take Jameis if that’s the only choice. But it’s NOT!!!
Not to mention, although I like Mike Evans I’m not sure I respect the opinion of a twenty something kid who made his bones originally with Johnny Look at me Manziel.
On a team with McCown there are probably a dozen NFL QB’s and some pro prospects that any of our receivers would like to see on the team.
That’s like saying we’re going to draft Stanley or one of the studs at tackle. Of course the QB will be happy. Any receiver is happy with an upgrade at QB.
I’m not sure I’ve read a poster here who doesn’t believe Jameis Winston’s talent is far superior to Josh McCown. Big deal. Let him get in line. There are probably 4 or 5 dozen QB’s in the NFL, CFL and college who are better than McCown. I honestly do not remember seeing a QB play as poorly as McCown this past year. Yeah the OL sucked but so did McCown.
January 7th, 2015 at 2:56 pm
RE: McCown holding on to the ball too long.
Had a good laugh remembering Rob Johnson’s “Robosack” moniker. A sad walk down Buccaneer memory lane.
January 7th, 2015 at 2:57 pm
Tmaxcon…there is no hatred for Winston, in my book anyway. I just don’t want us to draft a QB that doesn’t make it due to off the field incidents and the Bucs have another five to ten years of futility and ridicule. I think most every fan has the same desire to want to avoid such a thing in the future.
I hope he does well and is on the second best team in the league for the next decade, if the Bucs draft Marcus and we are the best team in the league during that period. And I wish him a long and law enforcement free existence. But his behavior the has put a big question mark about that as the picture of his future.
You are misreading fans wanting to make sure we don’t get a guy that is great below the neck and dead above the neck off the football field sans Josh Freeman. You can understand that, can’t you? it isn’t personal.
January 7th, 2015 at 3:00 pm
“forgive and forget or second chances.”
No Taxmcon that is not the issue. We’re not talking about second chances but rather…oh hell I’ve lost count. Let’s forget the autograph crap…probably nothing….I get that the crab legs were a mistake because the manager who usually let FSU stars walk out with stuff free wasn’t on that night so it was a simple misunderstanding.
I’ve done plenty I’m not proud about and so I understand having sex with a young woman you just picked up. Haven’t ever had friends tape it…but different strokes for different folks eh.
But he doesn’t have to be criminal to be wrong and a bad fit for a franchise.
AGAIN…what kind of irresponsible moron let’s his coach and team down yelling f her in the pssy in a public building on campus. He could have at least faked some remorse for the sex affair. Again even if it’s not illegal, going to a party, picking up a strange chick, doing her while your buds video it? Not exactly classy or what we’d want from the “face of the franchise”
But getting past all of that…how can you be so freaking arrogant to yell that in the student union. One poster pointed out to me he was repeating an internet meme about the so called “rape charges”. Honestly I”m not familiar with that detail although I had read something about it on this blog. IF that is true that simply makes it WORSE!!! He not only said something stupid and tasteless it was about an event he and the University and the football team were trying to put behind them. This kid simply has no judgement. I do not “hate” him for his lack of judgement. I hope he finds a good advisor, get’s drafted by an AFC team as we see Marcus and Jameis playing each other once again in the Super Bowl. Hey stranger things have happened.
January 7th, 2015 at 3:02 pm
T-Rex is taking his ball and going home. So sad. :{…
January 7th, 2015 at 3:03 pm
How old is Mariota Joe? Hopefully still young enough to have time to grow with Evans
January 7th, 2015 at 3:05 pm
mark2001 – I get where you are coming from that being said for every overblown incident or inaccurate fact reported it negates the good qualities that he posses. His teammates love him. He is a good student. It does not make up for the bonehead choices he has made but the dude should get a fair shot. I support a complete evaluation with any investment that large a tremendous amount of vetting must take place. I am ready to accept whoever they take but I don’t see how they turn away Winston given the big picture and the need to win sooner than later.
January 7th, 2015 at 3:07 pm
[…] to JoeBucsFan.com, Texas A&M head coach Kevin Sumlin appeared on ESPN to talk about Winston’s […]
January 7th, 2015 at 3:07 pm
Greg “Shat-on-yo” Schiano I got 3 things for ya:
1. It sounds like you have some pent up aggression, maybe you need to get a piece and r-e-l-a-x.
2. If Jameis wasn’t even charged that says enough in the eyes of the law.
3. If Derrick Brooks has his back then I do too along with most of Buc Nation.
January 7th, 2015 at 3:08 pm
StPeteBucsFan – I respect your passion and consistency on the Winston topic. You bring up very valid points. I just don’t feel they should be a death sentence and he should be given a chance to prove otherwise. If he fails during the vetting process so be it. I was not the best kid back in the day so maybe my meter is a little lower than yours but we are not that far off.
January 7th, 2015 at 3:14 pm
Tmax…I’m sure he will get a “fair shot”….I mean, we aren’t even among the media, who have a large audience to their opinions. What we think really means extremely little to nothing in this process.
Whatever the Glazers, Lovie, and Licht think, based upon their analysis, will be the deciding factor….after all, in addition to the hearts on the line as it is with we fans, their jobs and financial success is on the line.
One good thing about all this…when you have the number one pick, you decide based upon your analysis….there is no “if they hadn’t picked in front of us” excuse making. These guys will make the best decision after fully vetting the potential picks and make the best decision they think will be best for the team……no excuses.
January 7th, 2015 at 3:21 pm
Anyone remember if Ryan Leaf’s dad declared his son eligible for the NFL draft? I think he was the last hothead trouble-maker in college who came out early as one of the top two QB’s in his class – who alsolost his final collegiate game before heading to the NFL.
Yep, it seems the parallels between the ghosts of past NFL nightmares just keep screeching away…at some point, you get what you deserve.
I seem to remember the loudest fans – and joe – stating Chucky had to go…and that it was time for new blood. That was back when winning 9 games a season and getting bounced from the playoff’s in the 1st round was just too much to take.
I remember warning folks about being too hasty and thinking just because we had success, it didn’t mean it was easy to duplicate with just anyone. I also remember saying that a certain position coach was too young and not quite ready to be a head coach in this league…
How’d that turn out again, I forget…?
You get what you deserve.
January 7th, 2015 at 3:21 pm
tmaxcon Says:
January 7th, 2015 at 2:52 pm
Erik
So, let me get this clear, I am an idiot because you disagree with my opinion. So your opinion is the only one that is relevant?
______________
Tmax,
So let me get this clear. I am a hater because you disagree with my opinion of Winston and his behavior? So your opinion is the only one that is relevant?
Works both ways.
January 7th, 2015 at 3:22 pm
I just feel that Winston needs to develop his QB mechanics and pocket presence more than Mariota does.
January 7th, 2015 at 3:32 pm
lightningbuc — not sure what you are getting at. I support others opinions. I respect them actually. I was not going after people who I have legit reasoning for hating; I was directing at posters who are tossing around criminal, rapiest etc… without any substance to it. I could care less who likes or wants Winston. I personally believe he is lovie’s only option which I may or may not be in the minority of and I am fine with that.. I never attached anyone for hating Winston just make sure you are presenting facts not raw emotions and being stupid about it. that’s it.
January 7th, 2015 at 3:33 pm
Tiger…I never was on the “can Gruden” bandwagon. The mistake occurred when we didn’t get a real GM to replace Richie…I wanted Allen fired and to hire a real GM like a local guy that was a former GM, Ron Wolf. But instead, the loudest voices prevailed and we flushed it all down the toilet.
January 7th, 2015 at 3:33 pm
man autocorrect killed me on that one. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
January 7th, 2015 at 3:35 pm
tmax…he isn’t Lovies only option…neither QB might even be Lovies best option…he and Licht have a variety of options to make this team better. The question is , which is the BEST option.
January 7th, 2015 at 3:42 pm
Doesn’t everyone agree that going from GMC as the ‘face of our franchise’ to Winston as the ‘face of our franchise’ would be a step in the wrong direction (image-wise)…. We need a potential superstar QB here who is also a strong role model and can be an upstanding pillar of the community. Mariota is the obvious choice, tmax. Idk what you’re thinking…. And I think the chances of Mariota being a superstar at some point are higher than Winston being one.
January 7th, 2015 at 3:53 pm
[…] It would be a connection that many fans should be foaming at the mouth for. Evans’ former college coach — Texas A&M’s Kevin Sumlin — was on ESPN and had this to say via JoeBucsFan.com: […]
January 7th, 2015 at 4:50 pm
Tmax
And all the others who want us to pick Jameis. I get your appreciation of his talent. I think BOTH of these QB’s are far better than any who came out last year and perhaps even next.
But both, as are all top QB draft picks a crap shoot. Only one however has all the poor judgement off the field, and after all the ints some would say on the field.
If we had the 2nd pick or lower I’d be pimping for Jameis as hard as the rest of you. But if it’s going to be 50-50 shot on either and one of them has enough baggage to fill a semi it simply seems to make sense to pick the safer choice.
IE I’m actually not so much against Jameis as for Mariota but I cannot deny that the off field shenanigans worry me.
Again I can get past all of it except the screaming of the obscenity in the student union because of the timing. If that was all he had ever done it’s meaningless. But coming at a time when he was under such a cloud and that cloud also hung over his coach, his teammates and his University, what kind of traitor throws his buds under the bus again with a totally classless outburst about a at minimum classless sex act that he, his team and his university were spending inordinate amounts of time and money trying to put behind them. It’s stupid and selfish as well as thoughtless.
If there is one thing that is important in a QB it’s judgement…and if it’s a face of the franchise QB we’re not just talking about on the field.
January 7th, 2015 at 6:10 pm
My grandma could be QB and if the Bucs won 4 straight the stadium would be sold out. That said, Winston is better than my granny.
January 7th, 2015 at 6:19 pm
All I know is that the teams that win consistently have consistency…year after year the have the same coaches, the same system, the same key players. We have none of that, haven’t had it for years and it can’t happen overnight. As much as I am not a fan of LovieBall, we need to start the process of becoming consistent. The defense has a start at it, now next year it will be the turn of the offense with a new, or mostly new system to put in place. Then in 2017, if the QB pick works out we might have something.
January 7th, 2015 at 6:27 pm
Stpete
Google “f her right in the ..” Then click videos. It’s an Internet meme but has nothing to do with anything. Just some guy who cursed on live tv bc he was bored but it was funny so the kids (all over the country) ran with it.
It similar to the “ain’t nobody got time for that” meme.
January 7th, 2015 at 6:32 pm
For whatever it’s worth kap was accused of rape over the summer. The details were way worse imo. Not only did he not get charged, he played all season (as did McDonald for domestic violence) and I’m sure many buc fans would love to have Kap as the face of the franchise.
I could care less who we draft. I still say take cooper n petty but I’m a dumb f* so there’s that.
January 7th, 2015 at 6:50 pm
McBuc Says:
January 7th, 2015 at 2:05 pm
Don’t count johny out yet. He has not even played two full games.
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
JOE knows QBs.
January 7th, 2015 at 7:24 pm
If the Bucs really want Winston, they need to trade out of the first pick. This will help the team address multiple needs and still land their preferred quarterback. There is also a legitimate talented starting quarterback from UCLA who may outperform Mariotta and Winston. Some teams will go crazy to trade up for the first pick and it could be a windfall for a team with as many needs as the Bucs
January 7th, 2015 at 7:50 pm
One snap from center with McCown and most Buc Ticket Owners will be gone.
Take either one QB, most likely Winston and leave Glennon plus you have the other QB in a future contract and then really have a great competition.
Remember, the first thing you have to do is fix the offensive line either with the Draft or Trades.
January 7th, 2015 at 8:11 pm
Love is the one who drafted Evans. And Jeffries in Chicago. And brought in Brandon Marshall. Drafted Forte……..
January 7th, 2015 at 11:53 pm
Even if the ‘experts’ are correct (including the ESPN panel), here’s the problem: Jameis Winston has repeatedly struggled with self-discipline, while he’s in COLLEGE – i.e., where he’s showcased his skills for FREE (we’ll…since it’s FSU I’ll amend that to playing for ‘nearly’ free – c’mon, you know you were thinking of Steve Spurriers pet name for them…)
…the point is: what’s going to happen when you drop ‘Top 5’ money on this 19 or 20 year old kid who has done NOTHING to demonstrate that he has learned to police HIS OWN behavior?
This kid has amazing, but very RAW, talent. Unfortunately he’s about as far away to mastering the most difficult things he will ever learn – as Mariota is away from mastering taking snaps under center.
However, with recent high round draft picks at the position, which one do you think THIS head coach believes is the safest pick? Remember, Lovie came in as a guy who was supposed to be a quick fix – and therefore had the fan base believing he would at least win more than the last goofball who was here…whether that assumption was fair or not, he LOST a LOT good will with the fan base this season. He doesn’t have the chops to take a QB with a GIANT question mark on his character…because after last season, I don’t think he’d survive the first ‘youthful indiscretions’.
By the way – on the day that he declared for the NFL – his alma mater just got another ‘dividend’ from THEIR investment in the character of Jameis Winston – a lawsuit from one of Jameis’ earlier ‘youthful indiscretions’…
Imagine filling this kids pockets with gold, and planting him within taxi service of Mons Venus…
I’m sorry – he’s just not worth the trouble.
January 8th, 2015 at 1:25 am
@rich,
What makes u think he is headed for prison? I mean, I’m seriously trying to comprehend why someone genuinely believes that is the likely outcome, because I can’t logically come to that conclusion personally.
January 8th, 2015 at 1:34 am
@White tiger,
Winston essentially hung out inside his apartment this entire season, not going out to bars/clubs (18+ of course). His lifestyle was completely altered at the age of 20. How’s that not self discipline. I know I was out drinking under age, hitting on girls, etc at 20. He could’ve has it all but instead has the foresight to chill.
And RAW talent? It’s anything but RAW talent. It’s the most REFINED talent for a college QB since Luck. Perfect drop backs, great reads, predicts routes, stand tall in pocket, throws In the face of pressure, a relatively quick release.
The money is a concern. It’s a shame he has to live under a microscope for his entire career, and I believe it’s undeserved but a consequence of modern American society. You know the other players are at the strip clubs, but for some reason that’s not a concern to you. I believe he is smart enough to stay out of those sticky situations though because at the end of the day, winning really is important to him.
January 8th, 2015 at 3:47 am
Playing at FSU – not graduating – and jacking-up your own reputation so bad you HAVE to go into seclusion…is nothing like Graduating from STANFORD, with an engineering/architectural degree, while leading STANFORD to contend for a national title 2 times.
Only because they play a similar position – does Jameis compare to Andrew Luck…loosely. You know, like the way JaMarcus, Byron, EJ, Vince and Ponder compare to Andrew Luck.
A more fitting comparison is to Johnny Football – only with more question marks and more drama (…except Johnny Football’s last game was a come from behind WIN in the Peach Bowl…).
…an even more fitting comparison may be to Bridgewater, but part of Teddy’s allure is due to the fact that he was NEVER considered to be the overall number one pick.
Jameis will be a steal – later in the first round.
January 8th, 2015 at 9:47 am
I wish I could be present for many of y’all faces when Goodell says with forest over pick the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Jamies Winston,Florida State University. I would pay-per view.
January 8th, 2015 at 9:57 am
9 out of 10 of you daily die hard posters I truly believe are not truly Bucc fans. Most I believe are fans of other franchises and hate the fact the QB coming out is headed to Bay. Winston to Evans will be one word Dynamic. Brees has his Jimmy,Cam now has Bejamin, Matty has a monster in Julio. Hate it or love it Winston will soon have his Evans. Man I wish I could see y’all faces when it happens.
January 8th, 2015 at 10:38 am
I’m pretty distressed by the amount of disregard here for the accusations made against Winston. “He’s made mistakes.” “I’ve done boneheaded things I’m not proud of.” As a father it makes me wonder what kind of people are commenting here that they so easily ignore something as vile as possible rape. Tape is not a “boneheaded” thing. It’s not a “boy will be boys” thing. These are serious accusations and the fact Winston repeatedly allows himself to be put in a position where such things happen, even if they’re false, is a massive red flag. Only when we stop treating these things with a meh and a shrug are men of all ages going to stop and think. This is more important than who can best throw TDs to Evans. I would suggest everyone stop and think about that.
January 8th, 2015 at 2:52 pm
Tampa Bay needs Winston badly. These idiot’s are talking about his character, and don’t even know who he is. That man is becoming a NFL player and he is going to get the counseling he is suppose to get. Look at his character, so they say, he is a winner. He is not afraid to put the blame on himself. He is a captain and a leader. If Tampa Bay doesn’t get him on the #1 pick, they got to be absolutely retarded, and must be mentally challenge. (((Here you have a chance to get one of the best football college players that has ever played the game, and you don’t get him because you say he might be a problem))) How dumb can the Tampa Bay organization be…
January 10th, 2015 at 3:04 am
Taking Winston would be just another disaster move for the Bucs. Bad eggs are bad eggs especially in the Florida sun. They spoil rather quickly. Not saying Mariota is better but he is certainly a better role model with unquestionable character. Do we need another distraction on the Buccaneers team? Bucs luck with draft picks is anything but lucky. Booker Reese, Jack Thompson (The Throwin Samoan), Chris Chandler come to mind along with several others. The Buccaneers have really never had a GREAT QB since Doug Williams and even he was not great, so hopefully the Bucs will not screw this one up. Felony State has turned out a lot of players who can not handle the money and fame being selected as a top draft pick. It takes a special player and person to be responsible enough to dedicate their life completely to the task at hand. Too much what will I do with all that money and not enough effort of being the first player in the AM and the last player to leave in the PM. I think Winston fits that mold. Too many incidents off the field for my liking even though many supporters of Winston would say I am overreacting. Where there is smoke usually there is some type of fire.
January 10th, 2015 at 3:08 am
And yes I know that Booker Reese is a Defensive player and not a QB Before some one tries to correct me. Just using another example of Bucs futility.
January 17th, 2015 at 11:00 am
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