A New Potential Glennon Trade Partner Emerges
January 8th, 2015
Remember when Saints head coach and offensive guru Sean Payton told a long tale of how he wanted/planned to draft Mike Glennon and how talented Glennon is?
And that was days before Glennon sliced up the Saints in October, going 19-for-32 for 249 yards and two touchdowns — without Mike Evans.
(Side note: It’s way under Joe’s skin that Buccaneers like Josh McCown claim the team imploded without an offensive coordinator. So how do these guys explain the Bucs marching the ball up and down the field in three of their first five games last season?)
Well, Joe’s intrigued that the Bears hired former Saints personnel chief Ryan Pace to be their general manager today. Pace spent the last 14 years with New Orleans, primarily in scouting, the last two years as director of player personnel.
This has Joe wondering whether Pace is a member of the Mike Glennon Mob, just like Payton.
Obviously, the Bears have a disaster on their hands with bratty Jay Cutler due a pile of money, a garbage defense, and no head coach yet.
This sure seems like a great opportunity for the Bucs to move Glennon to Chicago for a mid-round draft pick.
Joe’s got nothing against Glennon, but Lovie Smith treated Glennon like roadkill late in this season, when he emptied the bench for other young Bucs half as talented as No. 8. There’s no point to keeping Glennon around.
January 8th, 2015 at 5:22 pm
Glennon will fetch more than a mid round pick……and, I think the Rams & Cardinals are in line before the Bears….but Jets, Bills, Texans could also be interested….
January 8th, 2015 at 5:22 pm
Joe, you can’t ever have enough players worthy of starting in the NFL standing on the sidelines waiting to play.
Just imagine how the Cardinals had felt going into Carolina behind center.
Don’t be in such a rush to get rid of our players just because they are your buddies and you want them to get treated better or possibly get a chance to start.
January 8th, 2015 at 5:25 pm
I think Love keeps Glennon unless the offer is too good to refuse. They won’t be shopping him but will be listening. And I’m okay with that to some degree. I don’t see a bright future for Glennon as a starter here bit think he is a FANTASTIC backup. I think he carries a lot of value to us in that department.
Losing Glennon means having basically two new QBs next year and too much change can be a problem. This is assuming we do indeed either draft a QB or find a trade partner to add a veteran starter (RG3, Foles or Cutler?)
But I suppose this is an option and you can never have too many of those.
January 8th, 2015 at 5:28 pm
Joe, does the argument “Glennon never had a chance” still work here? I honestly think the kid had his chance to improve and never did.
January 8th, 2015 at 5:30 pm
I still think the kid can play. I hope that he does get traded as it would be best for Glennon. MG8 is still the best QB drafted since the 3rd round in the 2012 draft!
January 8th, 2015 at 5:31 pm
Title of this article is very misleading…
Actually, there is nothing misleading at all. No need to make up stuff. –Joe
January 8th, 2015 at 5:35 pm
You Go Joe Says:
Joe, does the argument “Glennon never had a chance” still work here? I honestly think the kid had his chance to improve and never did.
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If only there was some way to protect him.
January 8th, 2015 at 5:37 pm
Best case scenario: This trade happens, the Bucs get a mid-round draft pick that they use on some sleeper/project of a quarterback-killing DE or a monster MLB, and Glennon ousts Cutler for the starting gig in Chi-town and goes on to a better-than-mediocre Esiason-like career in the Windy City. Win-(kinda)Win.
January 8th, 2015 at 5:47 pm
I think TBBF is right. If Glennon had been a Card they’d still be in the playoffs.
And so Arizona and St. Louis seem needier to me.
Meanwhile I do not understand the Bears options so one of you wonks can explain it to me.
They have committed the family farm to Cutler. He has a long term contract and I wonder how much of it is guaranteed. How can the Bears unload this $$$$$ drain. If they let him walk or trade him the next team will have lots of leverage in terms of forcing Chicago to pick up a big chunk of the contract.
Just curious…some of you more informed can perhaps outline any strategy where any team would put up with Cutler’s antics and his salary.
I wouldn’t want him in Tampa for free. He’s a cancer in the locker room and I’ve always thought his talent was overrated. Yes he has all the physical attributes you might want (can anybody say Famous Winston) but his head is simply not screwed on right he’s inconsistent as hell. I simply do not understand how the Bears can get anything for him.
January 8th, 2015 at 5:49 pm
Joe’s got nothing against Glennon, but Lovie Smith treated Glennon like roadkill late in this season, when he emptied the bench for other young Bucs half as talented as No. 8. There’s no point to keeping Glennon around.
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joe you don’t like glennon..never did! I’ll be glad when you get your wish for Glennon to be shipped off. then when he plays for someone else he can get a chance to compete fairly. If he bombs out with a fair shot let him bomb. if he becomes a good to great player, what then will you and Duemig say?
Actually, Joe has written countless times that Glennon lived up to his draft status and did a lot of good things in his first two seasons. Why do so many people think it’s negative for a guy to be a good backup QB. In fact, on Sept. 21, Joe proclaimed that Glennon should start the rest of the season and Josh McCown should take a permanent seat on the bench. Please don’t make up stuff.–Joe
January 8th, 2015 at 5:49 pm
How was Glennon supposed to get better this year when nearly everything about the offense was a disaster? Coach Forked Tongue never gave him a shot to earn the job in Camp.
Agree he looked pretty rough at times but he still outplayed McCown.
We may fetch a fourth rounder and maybe he gets a fair shot to compete somewhere. Maybe he can share a cab to the airport with Foster.
January 8th, 2015 at 5:54 pm
I hope they trade Glennon and he’s someone else’s franchise QB. Another one gets away.
January 8th, 2015 at 5:55 pm
I’m a bucs fan, but I root for guys with heart over a liar for a coach.
I hope they trade him to a team that will use his skills. He’ll be in the NFL probably longer than the QB we draft.
January 8th, 2015 at 5:58 pm
IMO either lovie is clueless or he intentionally tanked the season when he pulled MG, knowing full well he could still fetch a mid round pick or MLB or something.
I suspect MG was a bit too smart for lovie. i.e. boss’ hate it when their employee too smart and knows their a moran!
that or lovie was jealous of his big whit balogna
January 8th, 2015 at 6:03 pm
We still need a good/cheap backup……according to Joe and and every NFL GM & Scout……Winston is NFL ready, so he needs no mentor…..Glennon would be a great backup for us….keep him if we can’t get at least what we paid….a 3rd….
January 8th, 2015 at 6:04 pm
“knows their a moran!”
Quoted for posterity.
January 8th, 2015 at 6:04 pm
Use the $5.250 savings from McCown to get your DE or MLB
January 8th, 2015 at 6:06 pm
If I were a GM or HC, I would have no reservations at all, of giving up a 3rd rounder to bring Glennon in as my starting QB. Even over Brian Hoyer, Mark Sanchez, or any of the retreads that will be available. I think Glennon is better than Cutler. Given the chance behind a real O-line, he could get it done.
January 8th, 2015 at 6:09 pm
I don’t see why the bucs don’t keep Glennon make him the back up to winston ? Ditch mccown and his money!
January 8th, 2015 at 6:19 pm
Glennon has played exactly 1 NFL season’s worth of games. That some people think he’s peaked and is on his way out of the league is, well, asinine. If he ends up in Arizona Arians is going to make him a good starter, we all know this.
What’s going to really hilarious is seeing all the people deriding him bending over backwards to make excuses for Mariota/Winston when they have a worse rookie year.
January 8th, 2015 at 6:21 pm
The Bucs don’t need to draft a QB, we already have the QB of the future, aka the cannon. Lovie said it and Lovie does not cuss or lie.
January 8th, 2015 at 6:26 pm
@bucrightoff
What’s going to really hilarious is seeing all the people deriding him bending over backwards to make excuses for Mariota/Winston when they have a worse rookie year.
This is why I quoted TBBF earlier Bucrightoff. Our expectations are being driven off the charts as the Jameis fans go all in to make sure we pick him over Mariota.
Either of these QB’s will need some patience. The more this debate continues the higher the expectations go.
I fear the next Heisman through the door at One Buc is doomed as were the vast majority of all other Heisman winners. They need time and patience and most of all good coaching and a good team around them.
Our coaching is suspect at best, no OC, and at 2-14 nobody will accuse either Jameis or Marcus of coming to a good team. However patience is something we seem to be lacking.
If I was Jameis I’d tell L&L no way I want to come into the circus that is Tampa Bay right now. It will be really tough on the kid. The only worse spot I can think of for Jameis is the JETS. Jameis in NYC….that would be a real challenge. Again I hope he goes to Tennessee. Nashville is a great town, with friendly non combative media. Titan fans are used to disappointment from Vince Young and I believe Jameis will be a lot better than Young.
January 8th, 2015 at 6:28 pm
Glennon is exactly what one looks for in a back up QB….it would be crazy to trade him
January 8th, 2015 at 6:31 pm
I’m convinced that there is one guy posing as maybe five to six different people just to make the same comment that Lovie is a liar. Come on, man. Seriously.
January 8th, 2015 at 6:32 pm
JoeJoes Fungi Nails Says:
Glennon is exactly what one looks for in a back up QB….it would be crazy to trade him.
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Lovie already tried…. and will do it again!
January 8th, 2015 at 6:33 pm
Keep Glennon and get rid of McClown, his hieght won’t intimidate Mariota when we draft him. McClown is old enough to be Mariota’s grandpa so that won’t be a good mix.
January 8th, 2015 at 6:35 pm
Glennon was bad. His numbers are fraudulent — pointless 4th quarter yardage and TD’s after games have long been decided.
Let’s hope we can get at least a 6th round pick.
January 8th, 2015 at 6:36 pm
Buc-O’s 82 Says:
Keep Glennon and get rid of McClown, his hieght won’t intimidate Mariota when we draft him. McClown is old enough to be Mariota’s grandpa so that won’t be a good mix.
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All of Tampa Bay, maybe even the entire planet would agree. Except his benefactor, Coach Clueless.
January 8th, 2015 at 6:38 pm
Lol @love and warrick Dunn! Some might think that Robert is a Moran. Maybe Robert can also explain the difference between they’re, there, and their. Never mind apparently “their” all the same.
January 8th, 2015 at 6:41 pm
Glennon’s salary is $527,813 next year…..less than Keith Tandy and many others.
Why on earth would you take a “mid-round” pick for a young/cheap NFL Experienced QB that has started a year’s worth of games behind an awful Oline…..and stayed healthy.
Especially when…..and I repaeat…..according to Joe…..all NFL scouts & GMs think that Winston is NFL ready…….he needs no experienced mentor.
Glennon appears to me to have taken his two demotions with class….unlike that whiny nutcase we had last year JF……wow!, That seems such a long time ago!!!
January 8th, 2015 at 6:50 pm
QB…Luke McCown is a UFA this spring….sign him and let the bro’s scrap it out
January 8th, 2015 at 6:52 pm
IK
“quarter yardage and TD’s after games have long been decided.”
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You mean like in Pittsburgh and New Orleans?
January 8th, 2015 at 6:55 pm
Perhaps one of the Joes could put together a video loop of MCClowns bloopers in his 1st three games just to refresh the suppressed mental imagery
January 8th, 2015 at 7:12 pm
Sorry quaterback
January 8th, 2015 at 7:15 pm
Robert9… you’re such a maroon.
Biff Barker… Lovie has NOT tried to trade Glennon. Licht is on record as saying he wouldn’t even entertain calls on that subject. Although that may have changed since last year, *I* have yet to hear proof. Post a link if you have seen/heard something change.
January 8th, 2015 at 7:17 pm
Name 1 rookie qb who won more than 5 games their rookie year with a 29/15 td/int ratio? Start w Andrew luck He threw 23/18 and he’s the #1 overall pick almost and he’s treated like he’s God himself.
Just please name one rookie qb who did better, just one please.
Cuz on the radio today they gave luck all the praise in the world while allowing for dumb rookie mistake but his response to glennon was to gag. Stats are for losers I guess. Wish we had a defensive leader who could keep opponents out of the endzone but that’s blasphamy, I get it.
So let’s trade Revis, wright, barron, foster, martin, and glennon so we can improve. Should we add banks to the list cuz hes a bust too right?
January 8th, 2015 at 7:23 pm
I see no reason to get rid of McCown provided that we can renegotiate his contract. He may not be able to play but the guy is a willing teacher and those guys are hard to find. I don’t ever want to see him on the field but I would love for him to coach Winston or Mariota, if Lovie has a brain cramp on draft day. There are things that Glennon just can’t teach a rookie and I would rather McCown was around to help.
January 8th, 2015 at 7:24 pm
Glennon will fetch more than a mid round pick……and, I think the Rams & Cardinals are in line before the Bears….but Jets, Bills, Texans could also be interested….
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Fetch more than a mid-round pick? He’s kidding, right? We’ll be lucky to get a fourth rounder.
January 8th, 2015 at 7:48 pm
I am disappointed to not be able to see what Glennon could have done with the remainder of the season. But that could be best for a trade parter situation being our line sucked so bad. BUT….with a good offensive line I think Glennon can be a decent QB down the road…but we will never know what could have been in Tampa.
January 8th, 2015 at 7:50 pm
I’m gonna say this for the last time
TRADE A LOW ROUND PICK TO KC for QB CHASE DANIELS.
As it stands right now, the Chiefs are effectively out of cap space for 2015. Especially since they resigned Alex Smith to a larger contract, and Justin Houston needs long term extension. All the signs are their-“THEY JUST SIGNED PRYOR to a 1yr contract”
Licht call Chiefs general manager John Dorsey and make it happen.
SIDE NOTE: If they release Tamba Hali grab’em !!!!!
January 8th, 2015 at 7:51 pm
All the signs are there-“THEY JUST SIGNED PRYOR to a 1yr contract”
January 8th, 2015 at 7:53 pm
REF:
LUVMYBUCS Says:
January 15th, 2014 at 5:58 pm
What about signing Veteran QB to compete with Glennon Like
-Josh McCown
-Chase Daniel
-Brian Hoyer
-Chad Henne
-Kyle Orton( isn’t a lock to return as Tony Romo’s backup)
+Draft a Rook in the Later Rounds like
-David Fales
-Keith Price
-Jimmy Garoppolo
January 8th, 2015 at 8:07 pm
I’m always confused by this notion that Glennon padded his stats this year in games that were already decided. I recall him starting 5 games this year; 1 was a win and 2 were overtime losses. That’s 60% of his starts where it was literally impossible for this assertion to be true. I also don’t think it’s very accurate about the cleveland game. Baltimore? Sure. But I don’t see how one game can be referred in plural. Am I missing something?
January 8th, 2015 at 8:30 pm
@LUVMYBUCS
Lennon to Dallas for 3rd rndr
January 8th, 2015 at 8:34 pm
For teams that are on the verge, Glennon would be an above (slightly) average option. He has experience and is ready and waiting for the opportunity. If we want to move him out of conference, the Jets and Bills could use him. If we want to see him every once in a while, the Cardinals and Rams might be intrigued.
January 8th, 2015 at 8:45 pm
I like Glennon. If he goes any where why not Dallas? After his indoctrination into pro football, I think he would be a deserving , and apt heir apparent for Romo and that O line. The Cannon would keep gunslingin’, to pewter stars.
January 8th, 2015 at 8:52 pm
Have to trade Glennen to get Mariota #8.
January 8th, 2015 at 9:13 pm
Remember ANY PLAYER that hits the waiver wire-
“Records determine waiver order”….So the BUCS have First Refusal Rights
January 8th, 2015 at 9:43 pm
Keep Glennon as a backup say sayanara to McNown or allow him to retire and hang around as an offensive assistant and draft the qb that Koetter feels he can develop into a Pro Bowler the best! Trading talent has not worked too well (best trade in awhile was the 4th and 6th rounders for that malcontented safety from Bama) since the Bucs fleeced Lovie and the Bears of a 2nd rounder for Gaines Adams much like they got for Booger with the Colts; ie it has been a long time since the Bucs have not been bent over doing a deal with another franchise and hopefully they simply do not answer the phone anytime Bellicheat and the Pats call anymore….
January 8th, 2015 at 9:48 pm
Hahahahaha lol damn Joe…. Only in Tampa is going 19-for-32 for 249 yards and two touchdowns considered carving any defense. He should have had 400 yards….. See ya Glennon
January 8th, 2015 at 10:33 pm
Keep Glennon if the offer is anything less than a high 2nd. We have nothing else either on the roster or available to us for a backup. Man, can we have some depth for once?
January 8th, 2015 at 10:41 pm
@DB55 and Rich:
Thank you for your honesty, and cogent assessments. “Pearls before swine” as they say.
I sincerely hope they trade Mike Glennon for his sake.
BTW, I am happy to offer the same bet as last year, for whomever your favorite 2015 rookie QB is. I promise to keep my last STEMI check, so I can accomodate at least 100 of you haters @ 20$ apiece. Not a single hater took me up on it last year, which seemed surprising considering all the venom directed at MG8.
tickrdr
January 9th, 2015 at 12:03 am
They need to keep some of these cheap guys on staff as depth. Glennon is a solid backup. He sucked this past year, just like anyone else that was at QB sucked bc the O line was non-existent. You keep em until you can replace em! Just like the move with pushing Banks to backup worked, you do the same with the majority of this team (most of which u don’t owe that much money to and aren’t going to get much more elsewhere)
January 9th, 2015 at 12:05 am
IF! they even want to get rid of him we will be sorry! mark my words people. the bucs did not suck this year because of him. period ! u people that think Winnie Winston or marcus mariota is going to come in here and kick ars! are dreaming! u shall see!!!!
January 9th, 2015 at 12:13 am
glennon = matt ryan! style offense print it!
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January 9th, 2015 at 12:45 am
LUVMYBUCS orton retired pal!
January 9th, 2015 at 12:53 am
You know Glennon sucks when he throws for 249 yards and someone describes it as carving someone up.
A good QB carves someone up when he throws for 350 yards. Glennon just 250.
January 9th, 2015 at 2:50 am
IK
“quarter yardage and TD’s after games have long been decided.”
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DB55 Says:
You mean like in Pittsburgh and New Orleans?
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mdsbuc Says:
and, like Seattle last year?
January 9th, 2015 at 4:29 am
joe if you like Glennon, why do you want to trade him? why have the pendants in this town not given him the allowance of playing behind a porous o line? Isn’t journalism suppose to be fair?
January 9th, 2015 at 10:58 am
Glennon was picked by Schiano , ergo guilty by association in this town. That said, there is no point in keeping him if you don’t have plans for him and can get a valuable pick in return (a 4th is logical). What’s funny is I get the feeling some would rather us release him so they can pound their chests “SEE HE IS AWFUL NOBODY WANTED HIM!” rather than trade him and benefit the team, but that’s how the cookie crumbles.
January 9th, 2015 at 10:59 am
Ryan Said:
“You know Glennon sucks when he throws for 249 yards and someone describes it as carving someone up.
A good QB carves someone up when he throws for 350 yards. Glennon just 250.”
Do the coaches/GMs/talking heads/fans now come to you for the ‘standard’ of what makes someone “good”?
By your standard of “good”, there are lot of QBs who have not had “good” days. Just as an example, Joe Montana played in 200 games(15 seasons), with only 19 (less than 10%) “good” games. OTOH, he had 34 games (17%) at LESS THAN 150yds (I can only wonder how you classify THAT kind of game). In fact, he didn’t have his first “good” game until his FOURTH year.
The rest of the world didn’t get your memo. They believe he was a “good” QB.
You might want to revise your standards a bit. Or quit hating someone, just because a ‘mutt’ tells you to.
January 9th, 2015 at 5:25 pm
I have been a devoted buc fan for 35+years
And telling all of you that Glennon is a better
Fit in OC Koetter’s scheme than any of the
Top 2 qbs in the draft. He’s a Matt Ryan in
The making. There is a real reason that both
Sean Payton and Bill Belichic considered
Drafting him(hence Brees and Brady).trade
The first round pick to philly bolster or O line
Draft qb mannion in later rounds or take foles
From philly and we are playoff caliber.if not expect the same