Jameis Watch: Memphis Man

December 8th, 2014

jameis winston 1113Crab-legs-stealing, BB-gun-shooting, obscenity-hollering, Heisman-Trophy-winning, national champion James Winston, the pride of Florida State University, continues to look like a much better quarterback prospect than Mike Glennon and Josh McCown.

It’s Joe’s daily nugget on the Jameis Watch, celebrating the best quarterback to wear No. 5 ever in the state of Florida.

The Jameis Watch sure is a lot more exciting now that your beloved Buccaneers own the No. 1 overall pick in the 2015 draft — for now.

The draft gurus are starting to earn their paychecks, typing up mini mock drafts. Dane Brugler, of CBS Sports, took his turn and sees Winston as a proud member of the Tennessee Titans, assuming they can cling to the No. 2 overall pick.

2. Tennessee Titans – QB Jameis Winston, Florida State: The Titans are a team with problems all over the roster, but that’s especially true at quarterback. Tennessee fans will likely be weary of another top-10 pick passer given the results of Vince Young (2006) and Jake Locker (2011), but Winston is worth the gamble and would give Tennessee a cornerstone to build around on offense.

Brugler has the Bucs picking some dude named Mariota.

66 Responses to “Jameis Watch: Memphis Man”

  1. MadMax Says:

    What about “Scherff” watch….him or Andrus Peat could very well be our guy…..then Bryce Petty.

  2. Gooberville Says:

    The best to wear 5 in Florida is Freeman and until the alleged raper plays a down in the NFL and surpasses 4,000 yards in a season why bring this crap up every week. It’s old, dumb, and very boring. This dude has bust all over him..
    Joe quit embarrassing yourself like you seem to enjoy.. Didn’t the Manziel teach you anything? Or even accusing Lovie of being reckless and sending Mccoy back in game when it was agreciously reported that he had a busted knee cap.. You’re stories and opinions are really off this year.

  3. Howard Cosell Says:

    I hate to admit that Joe was right about the QB situation.
    Maybe a slightly more talented kid could have been the difference to win
    5 or 6 games and have the offense moving in a positive direction.
    …or maybe the line would just get him pummeled.
    No doubt that we’ve suffered immensely losing Tedford.

  4. MariotaOrWinstonOrWalkdaPlank Says:

    At this point, I’d take Mariota over Winston, unless our OC is someobe like Chudzinski who would fit Winston perfectly.

    Winston has proven that he is a loose cannon, despite having the rare ability to carry a team on his back, a lot of times this season he has had to do that because he put his team in a hole to begin with.

    I’d still take him if he declared, but IMO his best interest should be to stay at least another year at FSU.

  5. Howard Cosell Says:

    Drafting Winston would just feel dirty.

  6. nate Says:

    No trade down our oline needs a major rehaul! No qb can handle that pressure…yes no qb there no point of sending a rookie qb without a oline and running game we have neither!

  7. nate Says:

    Successful qbs have a good online and back… just look at russel wilson he has lynch.. kapernick has gore.. both have great oline and backs… joe back me up here!

  8. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    I don’t think we suffered from losing Tedford. I think we suffered because we hired him. I never approved of the hire personally.

    To be honest, I don’t care if its Mariotta or Winston…so long as its the one that has the most success. I think that’s what we all want.

  9. #4 Says:

    Nashville Joe…. Not Memphis

  10. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Nate, kapernick is not doing well at all.

  11. lightningbuc Says:

    Memphis Man? You do realize the Titans play in Nashville, right?

  12. Brandon Says:

    MadMax Says:
    December 8th, 2014 at 9:03 pm
    What about “Scherff” watch….him or Andrus Peat could very well be our guy…..then Bryce Petty.

    Great idea, draft a top 10 OT at #1 overall then pick up Kevin Kolb 2.0 in round 2.

  13. Tye Says:

    For those who keep calling for a pole between QBs, I just saw one on another site:

    Marcus Mariota – 662 votes – 82%
    Jameis Winston – 149 – 18%

  14. Todd Says:

    Mariota and let’s install the spread offense I’m done with boring bucs Sunday’s!

  15. MadMax Says:

    No Brandon…trading down and then drafting him….so much value with that #1 overall pick.

  16. DallasBuc Says:

    Watching Brady’s arm last night and Rodgers’ tonight after witnessing Trash McCown’s weak stuff yesterday you have to wonder what they were looking at when they hired this sad sack. We need a guy that has an elite arm…I don’t care who, Mariota or Winston or someone else but this Trash McCown train wreck cannot end soon enough. We have never intentionally started a worse QB in our history that I can think of.

  17. Bucfan4life Says:

    Just curious for your guys pining to trade down and draft lineman. So you see no need to have a starting caliber QB on our roster?

  18. Luther Says:

    Thanks Bucfan for bringing some sense into the discussion. Why would anyone want to trade down when you have a franchise QB staring you in the face.

  19. Kalind Says:

    I love seeing you guys say things like “other than being able to put a team on his back…I still don’t want him.” Sheesh tough crowd.

    I want to win. I could care less what he does off the field as long as it’s not illegal. I just want to win. Mariotta isn’t a sure thing. Winston is. He a sure winner.

  20. Mr. Patrick Says:

    Bucs need to trade that pick for more picks then draft Petty. Bucs have needs and holes all over the field

  21. mike30#1bucfan Says:


    Marcus Mariota(onereadandrun) < Jameis Winston(prostyleoffense)

  22. Architek Says:

    No you don’t trade the pick! We need a elite prospect desperately!!!

  23. 87ForJameisOrMariota Says:

    Nope we is keeping that pick. You are correct Architek.

  24. Yugenaugur Says:

    Honestly, neither QB candidate wows me that much more than the other. Jameis puts the team on his back to carry them out of the hole he’s put them in…not sold.

    @Kalind 2/3 of the things Winston has got flak for have been illegal….

    Regardless, you don’t trade the pick. The fan base would riot if you got anything less than what the Redskins gave up for RG3 (even more than WAS gave up since it’s #1 vs #2)…with that said, don’t be surprised if Lovie drafts the DE out of USC.

    the bucs do nothing that is logical and that makes us happy. everything is a recipe for pain and despair.

  25. aj Says:

    If Jameis is there you take him and don’t look back. If you pick first you take Jameis and don’t look back.

  26. Mr. Patrick Says:

    Winston 24 TD’s, 17 INT’s. Not exactly worthy of the #1 pick

  27. 87ForJameisOrMariota Says:

    aj…ding ding ding we have a winner!

    Jingle bells jingle bells jingle all the way… to Tampa Mr. Winston. You snotty brat. You scrappy fighting warrior from FSU.

    Bring Satan to Tampa at all costs.

  28. 87ForJameisOrMariota Says:

    Winston’s 2013 Freshman stat line 40 TD’s 10 Int’s.

  29. Mr. Patrick Says:

    Oh I forgot, Mike Glennon is the Buc’s QB of the future. Lovie said so

  30. 87ForJameisOrMariota Says:

    ….and a National Championship.

    Throwing the game winning TD to Mike Evans..oops I mean Kelvin Benjamin for the win against the mighty SEC Auburn Tigers.

    ….and undefeated..still!

  31. Mr. Patrick Says:

    Ryan Leaf

  32. 87ForJameisOrMariota Says:

    Bryan to Joel : He’s an in state FSU Heisman Trophy winning QB Joel.

    Joel to Bryan : You’re right bro, it’s going to take something BIG to bring these fans back into this stadium next season.

    Bryan to Joel : Let’s tell Lovie his hands are tied right now when it comes to this kid.

    Joel to Bryan : I’ll get him on the phone.

    Joel and Bryan to Bucs-FSU fans all across the bay area and beyond : Have a Merry Jameis Christmas.

  33. 87ForJameisOrMariota Says:

    Game over.

  34. BucFan20 Says:

    FSU has been won dispite Winston. Just like a rookie nobody knew him and he was great. Now they know him and he is a turn over machine. The NFL Defense will have no problem with him.

  35. MariotaOrWinstonOrWalkdaPlank Says:

    Auburn sucks 87 had no business playing in that game. I’d take Jameis but no denying he has regressed this year.

  36. iamkingsu Says:

    No brainer you take Winston at 1 then you take his OT turned center with our 2nd round pick. Dude is a roadgrader. He prolly had a whole 3 games at center in his career and already is better that Dietrich-smith

  37. iamkingsu Says:

    Listen idiots ask yourselves who will get the most out of 6’5, 6’5, and 6’5?? Really it’s not even a decision

  38. Mike10 Says:

    DEAR GOD I’m terrified with the idea of Lovie being anywhere in the room when this first overall pick is made !!!!!

    I really hope everyone understands the magnitude of selecting a QB at that spot – because if we’re wrong again, it will be another 5+ years of trying to get back on our feet. Think of where instead we would be as a franchise if Freeman was what we expected….

  39. MariotaOrWinstonOrWalkdaPlank Says:

    It’s not so much a QB pick I’m worried about. It’s the development of said QB under Lovie’s clueless watch.

  40. SoFlo Buc Says:

    Does any one remember what a ” bad guy” Warren Sapp was? He turned out alright! Not sure what the deal is with Winston’s decline ( besides losing half his team to the NFL) but he does have, as the song says” what ever it is” … A winner!

  41. chipbuc Says:

    So lets never draft a QB high in the draft because he could be a bust. Great with that logic we will never have a franchise QB!!!! Unbelievable !!!!!!!!

  42. Howard Cosell Says:

    Freeman was a #7 pick, I think, and his career QB rating
    with Tampa was 79.

  43. Mr. Patrick Says:

    Mark my word, If Bucs keep the #1 pick Lovie will pick the highest ranking OT or DE

  44. MariotaOrWinstonOrWalkdaPlank Says:

    Freeman was #17

  45. Todd Says:

    mariota or winston or fire lovie glazers need to over rule him

  46. Todd Says:

    freeman had a losing record in college no clue why we picked that guy

  47. Mike10 Says:

    Todd – no doubt, and came out having trouble with accuracy, we saw a bit of that! But you gotta think his lack of growth had something to do with getting thrown into the fire/never having anyone to develop and coach him/constant changes of system.

    Chipbuc – that’s the same mentality that puts teams in the gutter. “Franchise quarterback” isn’t a ‘hello my name is_____’ sticker you’re given at Radio City… and if it is, ur team most likely is in a spiral

  48. BucIt941 Says:

    Jan 1st will settle the dispute between Winston and Mariota. This is the biggest game of the year on the biggest stage with 1a and 1b going toe to toe. The player who shines the best in this game very well be the QB of Tampa’s future!

  49. Todd Says:

    hey lets calm down we still need to lose 3 more games and we really need the titans to win one game also

  50. MadMax Says:

    Any QB, dont care how elite he is, will not be good behind this O line…Im ok with Winston or Mariota, but trading back and grabbing an elite LT or Guard would be my first decision if it were up to me. Ive been saying it for the past 3 years, draft some O line with our high picks….and look where we suffer the most.

    McCoy, LD, Banks, Evans have worked out pretty well as high picks…now its time for O line and QB high picks. We could grab somebody’s 3rd 4th or 5th pick in the draft with our 1st, plus maybe their 2nd and 3rd. We could work wonders with trading and end up with two 1st round picks and still pick in the top 5.

  51. Todd Says:

    Qb mariota first then build around him getting a qb is the hardest to solve in the nfl

  52. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    We don’t need a poll now….someone else has done one…..Buc Fans want Mariota over Winston….

  53. Bucfan4life Says:

    Chipbuc I agree with you completely. So tired of dumb fans talking about QB busts in the past. For the love of god people, you have to take a shot at one of these guys. For all the R Leafs and J Russell there are also Mannings, rothlisbergers, Rivers, and others. DEs and o-linemen can also be busts. Maybe we should just not draft anyone because they may not pan out.

    And mikebuc you are so right about Mariota. He is not a pro style QB and does anyone think Lovie Smith will utilize an offensive style that will maximize his skill set? The only way Mariota will pan out in the NFL is if Chip Kelly is able to trade up for him. If he comes to Tampa he will be a bust.

  54. Bucfan4life Says:

    Chipbuc I agree with you completely. So tired of dumb fans talking about QB busts in the past. For the love of god people, you have to take a shot at one of these guys. For all the R Leafs and J Russell there are also Mannings, rothlisbergers, Rivers, and others. DEs and o-linemen can also be busts. Maybe we should just not draft anyone because they may not pan out.

    And mikebuc you are so right about Mariota. He is not a pro style QB and does anyone think Lovie Smith will utilize an offensive style that will maximize his skill set? The only way Mariota will pan out in the NFL is if Chip Kelly is able to trade up for him. If he comes to Tampa he will be a bust.

  55. micronole Says:

    To paraphrase Bill Polian, “if you listen to the fans, you’ll soon be sitting with them.” Draft Winston and don’t look back.

  56. rayjay1122 Says:

    I could see Winston going all Bo Jackson if we pick him and deciding to just play Baseball instead of being ruined in Tampa on a team that is sinking faster than the Titanic. At least Mariota to my knowledge doesn’t also excel in Baseball. I also think if we could get an OC with enough sense to tailor an offense that utilizes Mariota properly, that he can have success in the NFL. It is not unheard of anyways. We would also have to retool the offensive line and somehow find a way to run the ball as well as pass rush. Ok, enough stating the obvious. So, as far as Winston goes, I would like to see him stay in school so we do not have to deal with all of the fans that will be anti Mariota in the event that we pick Mariota.

  57. Love and Warrick Dunn Says:

    No read option QBs please.

  58. Skyline Crew for Mariota or Winston Says:

    I would say this. If we take a QB 1st overall I would rather have Mariota. Now, if we take a QB at #1 I hate to say it, but we need to have a OC/QB coach/HC that are going to be here for awhile. All the good QBs have the same HC for their careers. Manning is different not the norm. That has been our main problem is finding a HC to stick around. 2 yrs and they are gone. No QB can thrive in that situation.

  59. Skyline Crew for Mariota or Winston Says:


    You would have to deal with all the anti-Winston fans if you draft him. It isn’t a win/win situation when it comes to drafting them, but I think people will be happy to at least of drafted a QB. All the obvious you stated for Mariota would have to be done for Winston as well. We have no O-line and we have no running game.

  60. Skyline Crew for Mariota or Winston Says:

    Draft Mariota in the 1st. Draft C/OT in 2nd. BPA from there on out.

  61. Skyline Crew for Mariota or Winston Says:

    Could also see Lovie going this way also:

    1. Leonard Williams, DT, 6-4, 290, 4.88, Jr, Southern Cal: Don’t blame Williams for Southern Cal’s 38-20 loss to UCLA. A questionable personal foul penalty aside, Williams was again the most dominant player on the field, fighting off double teams to record four tackles and a fumble recovery. Strong, athletic and passionate, the Trojans’ star is earning comparisons to everyone from Houston Texans’ defensive end J.J. Watt to Tampa Bay Buccaneers defensive tackle Gerald McCoy for his ability to dominate the line of scrimmage while alternating between defensive tackle and defensive end. He’s too quick for guards and too strong for tackles, wreaking havoc along the line of scrimmage against the run and pass.

  62. David Says:

    I’m a huge FSU fan, I like Winston alot. Wouldn’t trade him for any qb in the nation. With that said, looking at our team and hearing these self righteous, I’m perfect, never made a mmistake, do gooders on this site complain everytime Joe does this segment, I’d rather have Mariota for his escape ability. But we’d have to adjust our offense for him.

  63. Skyline Crew for Mariota or Winston Says:

    You have to adjust this do nothing offense for any QB. Our play calling is horrendous.

    Also, the only people calling for Winston are FSU fans. Other people don’t want him, but that makes all of us awful people.

  64. Love and Warrick Dunn Says:

    I’m an FSU fan, but, even if I weren’t I don’t want a read option QB.

    Please list how many read option QBs have adjusted to the NFL and been successful, and how many have had some success only to regress after defenses have adjusted?

    I will take a prostyle QB, 8 days a week.

    It doesn’t matter who wants Winston on here, it only matters what front offices want. They see who wins the vast majority of championships.

  65. Luther Says:

    @micronole just remember you are a fan too. If Mariota is not available, then you look at Winston. Mariota is more accurate and is a dual threat. He also has no off the field issues.

  66. Bucfan4life Says:

    I am not an FSU fan and I want Winston. Mariota is a system QB and that is a big deal. Watch him closely when they play FSU. That offense is nothing like what he would need to do in the pros. He basically has two options on every play. Pass to your only target if he is open and if not run! There is no semblance of a pro style offense and no checking down receivers or recognizing defensive formations and calling audibles. Do any of you really think that the most conservative HC in the NFL is going to hire an offensive guru to come in here and run a gimmick offense?