Bucs-Panthers Open Thread

December 14th, 2014
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This is where wildly passionate Bucs fans hammer away in the comments section all game long.

It’s always a fun time, and a fantastic place to ride the rollercoaster and share your in-game sorrow (usually).

Can the Bucs improved defense slow down the fourth best QB in the NFC South, Derek Anderson?

They saw him once before, and the Panthers have two rookie guards. If not, Joe suspects the comments here might turn particularly ugly.

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299 Responses to “Bucs-Panthers Open Thread”

  1. gatrbuc17 Says:

    Rachel looks sloppy in the leg dept.

  2. gatrbuc17 Says:

    Oh and GO BUCS! Just Win baby!!!

  3. tmaxcon Says:

    Hoping for blowout so glazers are forced to eat a 17 million dollar s**t sandwich

    Go bucs do what you do best…

  4. Buccfan37 Says:

    The only ugly comments will come if the Bucs are winning, from the tank for ? QB crowd. The rest are fans futility out loud.

  5. MGM4Life Says:

    IT IS KAFKA TIME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  6. Architek Says:

    Just Lose Baby!

  7. Soggy Says:

    Calvin down..

  8. NCMike Says:

    Well don’t we look great early

  9. tmaxcon Says:

    Lovie Knows D

  10. lightningbuc Says:

    Thank God Doug Martin said the Bucs haven’t quit. I’d hate to see this team when they’ve quit, cuz they suck pretty bad when they’re trying.

  11. Buccfan37 Says:

    Hey, I did’nt ask for swiss cheese. I asked for a swiss army knife.

  12. The Real Drew Says:

    Dangit, Kelvin Benjamin hurt……that hurts our chances to lose this

  13. lightningbuc Says:

    ^^^no it doesn’t

  14. Buccfan37 Says:

    Lovie is such a stubborn ass. Defer the kick again. Expect the usual result.

  15. Alexstotle00 Says:

    Guess the Bucs Defense really wants Mariotta

  16. Buccfan37 Says:

    You know when you win the ball first and refuse it, it has to be you have no faith in your offense to do squat.

  17. MadMax Says:

    Lose baby lose…..would love to see the D do pretty good though, just a close loss…..and there goes Martin, lol

  18. MadMax Says:

    nice catch Evans

  19. Buccfan37 Says:

    Martin for 64 yards and no penalty. Shocking! Evans TD!! Go Bucs!!

  20. Alexstotle00 Says:

    I expected like 10 penalties on that Martin Run, every big run he had was erased with penalties.

    And Great Catch by our Rookie WR!

  21. Tampabaybucfan Says:


  22. Soggy Says:

    nice to see evans do his thing.. very nice mike..

  23. Matt Says:

    Evans is already a top 15 WR. Get him a good QB and he’ll be top 5.
    McCown is calmer today, he’sgoing to play well.

    Please lose this game Bucs….

  24. cmurda Says:

    Seeing the regression of our defense. When Derek Anderson runs up the middle for 12 yards then there are no excuses.

  25. Jacko101 Says:

    The bucs are going to screw this up

  26. Matt Says:

    Hope Martin rushes for 200 today so his trade value goes up and he gets us a 2nd orv3rd rounder. We have a lot of holes to fill.

    Gmac getting his arse handed to him….

  27. tmaxcon Says:

    panthers have to be averaging double digits per play… lovie knows d

  28. Architek Says:

    Please lose Bucs!

  29. tmaxcon Says:

    Matt please put the bottle down. I do commend you for your early start but there is not a player on the bucs offense worth a 2nd or 3rd pick with the exception of Evans

  30. Soggy Says:

    not good mcCoy down.. we are cursed

  31. MadMax Says:

    McCoy down again, doesnt look good…..why cant we just sit him before a major injury occurs?

  32. "TheKevin" Says:

    Can someone please shut McCoy down before he really hurts himself?

  33. Soggy Says:

    still down.. Man

  34. cmurda Says:

    Scares me watching McCoy get shaken up. Last thing we need to do is get him hurt in a lost season.

  35. tmaxcon Says:

    LVD and McCoy should both be on the bench. no need for freak injuries. although the way lovie is running his team McCoy will in year 10 ready for retirement before the bucs are competitive.

  36. Bucnut2 Says:

    get McCoy and David out of there!

  37. mixxx31 Says:

    M E 13 is that dude!!!

  38. Alexstotle00 Says:

    Damn it McCown

  39. Soggy Says:

    9 on the line and still run gesh..

  40. tmaxcon Says:

    martin seems to have a zip in his step. He must know he gets to go to a real team next year and get out of this dysfunctional organization. It pains me to root against my team but the Glazer clowns have forced my hand.

  41. mixxx31 Says:

    Did you guys see GMC waive off the help when the trainer was trying to help him off the field?

  42. bucrightoff Says:

    Playing McCoy should get Lovie fired, stop it Lovie. Also lol, Marcus Thigpen punt return TD for Buffalo. Lovie’s talent evaluation is remarkable.

  43. Max Says:

    Just saw our boy Marcus Thigpen run one back for the Bills. WTF

  44. Destinjohnny Says:

    Hell I would take anderson as our qb

  45. Luther Says:

    Absolutely no reason to have GMC in the game. I’m so pissed the he is hurt and it looks serious.

  46. Jughead Says:

    no pass rush

  47. Matt Says:

    Mj sightin! !!!!!

  48. Alexstotle00 Says:

    Michael Johnson Sighting!!!!!!!!!!!

  49. cmurda Says:

    Lovie will insist that we are playoff-bound. Go ahead and ask him. Have to play David and McCoy in his eyes.

  50. tmaxcon Says:

    panthers are averaging 10.5 yards per play!

  51. bucrightoff Says:

    Getting carved up twice in a season by Derek Anderson is far more embarrassing than anything we saw from Schiano.

  52. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Not breathing on QB again….no pressure….picking us apart…

  53. mixxx31 Says:

    MJ 90 looked like tackled that guy on accident. He was falling backwards and the back fell right into his arms. A stop is a stop.

  54. bucrightoff Says:

    Manziel looks awful so far. One read and run guy

  55. CJO Says:

    Shocking what’s happens when Martin gets half decent run blocking…

  56. Connor Says:

    Hey Joe, where are ya bud??! That’s right, no where to found cause he realizes Martin still has it.

  57. Wesley Says:

    I like our new uniforms but for god sake ditch the orange socks.

  58. cmurda Says:

    And that’s why we want McCown in….. To preserve that draft pick baby!!!

  59. Bucnut2 Says:

    That’s the McCown im used to

  60. Soggy Says:

    knocked out of field goal range.. were back baby..

  61. mixxx31 Says:

    @Tmaxcon carolina has 154 yards on 30 plays. Thats 5.1 yards not 10. whatever the hell you said. GET YOUR SHITE TOGETHER.
    Btw, this site is for BUCS fans you popcorn fart!!!

  62. Bucnut2 Says:

    Connor I’m not joe, but Martin still sucks. 3 good runs don’t make a good back!

  63. CJO Says:

    How many 5 step drop plays need to be pressured before Arroyo stops calling them..? You nearly killed the QB last week… Just completely throws the offense out of sync… Whatever. Just get Mariota some how, some way.

  64. Connor Says:

    NICE. Martin is on fire and then they let McCown KILL our drive. Arroyo should be fired on the spot and paddled on his way out. He’s clueless.

  65. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    For GOD’s sake don’t we have a short pass over the middle in our gameplan?

    Always low percentage sideline passes…..

  66. Buccfan37 Says:

    Put Glennon in to win.

  67. Bucnut2 Says:

    I love this 2-12 is only an hour away!

  68. Connor Says:

    @Bucnut2……yeah and our other running backs have been doing SO well.

  69. cmurda Says:

    Anybody hating on Martin hasn’t watched these games. Martin is fine and I want him back. Our O Line has been the problem all year. Their facing a terrible D Line and winning. That’s why Martin looks like Martin should look like.

  70. CJO Says:

    Martin is by far the best back on the team, if you think otherwise you have blinders on… Rainey is serviceable… This Sims guy is a bunch of hype… Cause these guys are healthy and can’t beat out Martin when healthy

  71. Soggy Says:

    Oh banks that looked like yours

  72. CJO Says:

    The Bucs are also putting in goal line packages in for run plays.. (star lineman) lol

  73. cmurda Says:

    The problems for the Bucs are an easy fix. QB, OL, DL. Everything else is fine.

  74. CJO Says:

    This defense is hard to watch between the 20s though.. Chunk after chunk…

  75. tmaxcon Says:

    mixxx31 — i love keyboard tough guys… when i ran the numbers it was 10.5… tolerating an oraginztion that continues to fail and let its FANS down is not being a fan either. Again, I love you anonymous tough guys!!!! Get a life!

  76. Matt Says:

    Y’all were crazy to think Martin lost anything. He was injured and got no blocking. He’s a straiggt ahead one cut back. He is the perfect zone blocking scheme running back, he’d rush for 1500 in a Shanahan offense.

    Booooom Lansanah!!!! Keep him at Mike, do NOT move him anymore.

  77. Soggy Says:

    refs like us today..

  78. cmurda Says:

    Yeah I’m shocked David didn’t get a 15 yarder on that one.

  79. Jughead Says:

    When was the last time you saw a checkdown throw from McCown? Does Arroyo even have them in his play calls?

  80. Soggy Says:

    the olsen show

  81. CJO Says:

    Anybody 88 cover him… no? Ok

  82. tmaxcon Says:

    cmurda – you are correct with the bucs needs. my concern is with Lovie having FULL control those needs will NOT be addressed in the order you listed.

  83. mark2001 Says:

    Will we snatch defeat out of draft position victory by winning a meaningless game? Will it help a bad coach keep his job? We will see.

  84. CJO Says:

    Greg Olsen…. First Down….lol I’m calling it now

  85. Soggy Says:

    looked like kelvin tried the heroic one arm catch and it cost, him he never tried using the other arm

  86. CJO Says:

    They tried

  87. mixxx31 Says:

    @CMurda SAY WORD SON!!!

  88. 1Gr8Buc Says:

    Tmaxcon…….. Your numbers are way off man. If they had 30 plays and averaged 10 per play they would be over 300 yards in total offense. May want to run your numbers again maybe use your toes this time.

  89. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Panthers….no punts……don’t need KR/PR….

  90. Soggy Says:

    getting our guys killed hope these meaningless games are worth it..

  91. CJO Says:

    Great catch…. If it’s not one thing its another lol

  92. mark2001 Says:

    Wouldn’t want to pull the corner stones of a meaningless game to help secure a number one draft pick. After all, it won’t change one of the completely winless home record this year and make the fans believe that they saw a home victory for their hard earned entertainment investment dollar.

  93. tmaxcon Says:

    i calculated the 10.5 after the third offensive series. unfortunately I should have posted my numbers I did not realize that fans would be so sensitive to lovies shitty d and try defending it.

  94. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    Why does Anderson stand all alone in the pocket and have all day to throw it while McCown is continuing throwing from a sea of black jerseys?

  95. CJO Says:

    On cue when I bash Sims… lol way to go

  96. CJO Says:

    On cue when I bash Sims… lol way to go

  97. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Starting to see the Sims value!!!

  98. bucrightoff Says:

    Manziel is even more awful then anyone could have thought. Literally all he’s doing is chucking it up.

  99. CJO Says:

    One personnel move Smith was right about… Kicker. lol

  100. Tampabaybucfan Says:


  101. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    Wow the return of Doug Martin, the emergence of Sims as the compliment to Martin L&L must have imagined. Bobby Rainer and Mike James for depth.

    At least we’re set at RB for next year. I like our TE lineup for next year. Alteraun Verner is a true NFL Corner…whether pro bowl or just solid…Banks doesn’t scare me on the other side.

    The talent cupboard is not totally bare.

  102. Kingpin1 Says:

    Joe how is your hero from last year doing in his first start?? Wow!!!!!! So glad we didn’t pick him!

  103. BuccoDav Says:

    I would rather have a pocket passer who makes good decisions than a mobile qb who makes McCown like decisions… we are lucky to have that field goal opportunity.

  104. MariotaOrWinstonOrWalkdaPlank Says:

    Guess Johnny Clipboard oughta hand that Heisman to Evans. Probably wouldn’t have won it without him.

  105. tmaxcon Says:

    defending any aspect of a 2-11 team that has ZERO OFFENSE, Pathetic Special Teams and a Defense that is below average is hilarious. I realize it’s been over 12 years since the bucs won a game that mattered. Living in Denial does not make one a better fan. Being content / defensive that the team is going backwards in all areas without any assurance that it will improve is closer to insanity than fandom

  106. Larry Says:

    Goldson has to catch that ball…..right thru his arms!

  107. mark2001 Says:

    If we win this one the media in unison should throw up when Lovie says what a great victory it is, and then he should be given a test to measure his mental competency.

  108. Bucnut2 Says:

    St Pete, please send me some of whatever you’re on. 4 crap running backs doesn’t mean we’re set!

  109. Bucnut2 Says:

    We need to tank better. This would be a horrible win.

  110. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    This is the freaking NFL. The difference between the good players and bad players is razor thin. They’ve all been stars on the collegiate level and they all showed promise in combines and other scouting tools.

    It is a team sport. A few bad or weak positions can make everybody look like chumps.

    Rank on McCown all you want. The dude does have cojones the size of bowling balls and a pain threshold off the charts. That play where he ran for five yards instead of sliding for two on first down is the DIFFERENCE between he and MG8.

    Imagine what McCown might be doing today with the running game and VJax and Evans if the line could pass block. Anderson all day to pass..McCown always throwing from a crowded pocket.

  111. Bucnut2 Says:

    Joe how are u feeling about pounding the table for Johnny football. Glennon looked a lot better in his first game. Looks like we got the better Texas player.

  112. mark2001 Says:

    Bucnut…maybe Lovie is worried that he might hear some harsh words from the great and iron headed…..er handed NFL commissioner…if we didn’t “give our all to win this big game”.

  113. MariotaOrWinstonOrWalkdaPlank Says:

    The real person who should be fired is our head of strength and conditioning. Our players are softer than tissue!

  114. Berdj Rassam Says:

    The Bucs have had another tough season.

  115. Bucnut2 Says:

    St Pete, I’m starting to feel sorry for you. Do you ever watch real nfl games? Your comments would indicate you haven’t

  116. StPeteBucsFan Says:


    I don’t believe the NFL personnel people agree with you about Martin. Sims has been hurt most of the year and is a rookie just now showing some form. When the line blocks three of them have recorded hundred yard games.

    Are they Marshawn Lynch no, but they are good runners when they are given any help up front.

  117. Bucnut2 Says:

    Mark, who cares what roger thinks?

  118. PRBucFan Says:


    Your boy Manchild sure looks good 😉 lol

    We are up 10-9 😀

  119. Bucnut2 Says:

    St Pete the nfl does agree with me on numerous points. First we drafted Martin I. The first round. What do you think we could get in a trade a 3rd or 4th. Second no one in the nfl wanted McCown but Tampa.

  120. Jughead Says:

    Gilkey is a stud

  121. mark2001 Says:

    roger cares what he thinks…maybe?

  122. "TheKevin" Says:

    Lol and it’s over !!

  123. Soggy Says:

    2nd half melt down underway…….

  124. Bucnut2 Says:

    thars the McCown I’ve grown to love!

  125. CJO Says:

    wow. the McCown implosion begins… What a terrible player.

  126. BuccoDav Says:


  127. Alexstotle00 Says:

    Second half
    There goes the flags
    And McCown Turnovers

  128. Jughead Says:

    let the implosion begin

  129. Rrsrq Says:

    Oneil Cousins… Should not be in the league. Period.

  130. Matt Says:

    Lol thank you McCown! Right on time.

  131. Bucnut2 Says:

    The Kevin you’re right

  132. Luther Says:

    Thanks McCown, I knew you would come through for us Mariota/Winston to Bucs fans.

  133. rayjay1122 Says:

    Ha ha ha ha…..I said our offense will make sure we lose again.

  134. theodore Says:

    The Bucs have bigger holes than QB.

    In other news, I’m drinking.

  135. unbelievable Says:

    annnnnnnnnd that’s the game folks

  136. Bucnut2 Says:

    Yes! We’re still in the race for the first pick

  137. "TheKevin" Says:

    Lol mcclown is sooooo baaaad!!!!

  138. Rrsrq Says:

    Offense must’ve have realized’ that a win could jeopardize first overall pick

  139. Bucnut2 Says:

    Theodore, I’m with you

  140. Alexstotle00 Says:

    Well Marcus Mariotta is becoming more and more real.
    I think McCown is a fan too the way he’s playing

  141. CJO Says:

    This guy is a turnover machine in the most in critical moments…. 1st, 2nd and 15 no screen called… Worked to end the half… Well at least it was fun to watch past halftime… lol

  142. Matt Says:

    We’re trying to lose. There’s no question after that series.

    Is bowling still on?

  143. Luther Says:

    @theodore, yes McCown may have another year of backup skills left and that means living with Glennon. Get the QB now and take your lumps next year. We can then build on that.

  144. "TheKevin" Says:

    That td is mc clowns fault and we will now lose the game.

    I’m wondering after these last few plays how QB is not the biggest need.

    Is anyone watching our QB? Or is it just me.

    How is that not our biggest need?

    Our qb just lost the game

  145. CJO Says:

    @thoedore Cheers!

  146. Connor Says:

    HEY LOVIE, I hear Rex Grossman is available!!!!!!!

  147. "TheKevin" Says:

    In the 3rd quarter

  148. Bucnut2 Says:

    Niether qb in this draft. Trade down, get lots of picks and get Cooke in the 2nd round

  149. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Really careless McCown….shouldn’t be playing……keeping the “tank” crowd happy…

  150. Soggy Says:

    a johnson sighting.. lol

  151. Jughead Says:

    nice block there

  152. Bucnut2 Says:

    We have them right where we want them

  153. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    1st down runing play……10 in the box….

    So much for Arroyo great calls….

  154. CJO Says:

    That’s sums up the run game… Must have been Martins fault there…. Screen game works for 3 straight times… Screw it run a draw

  155. Bucnut2 Says:

    Nice throw

  156. Alexstotle00 Says:

    That’s OLine fault right there

  157. Rrsrq Says:

    Alright guys, let’s shut it down…

  158. MariotaOrWinstonOrWalkdaPlank Says:

    Bucs and McClown are so effing terrible I’m not sure they need to tank. But I guess if Lovie wanted to win he wouldn’t have the Clown.



  159. Jughead Says:

    nice play call there…..an 8 yd curl route on 3rd and 13

  160. "TheKevin" Says:

    I don’t care what the biggest need is we need A QUATERBACK.


  161. CJO Says:

    The Bucs make me look forward to Mondays….

  162. Luther Says:

    Bigger needs than QB? Looks like QB is right at the top of the shopping list.

  163. Bucnut2 Says:

    Fire lovie

  164. Jughead Says:

    that pass rush is outstanding

  165. biggun Says:

    I hate to loose a frigging lead for some stupid ass move by th QB. I’m not buying it Lovie will never draft a QB and start him… so I think if we’re tbrowsing the remaining games is for 1st pick to trade for multiple picks. So guess what… I bet we end up with Sanchez.

  166. Luther Says:

    Another TD here should seal it. We won’t be able to stop the run after that.

  167. Alexstotle00 Says:

    We need
    QB NEED!!!!!!!
    OT NEED!!!!!!
    OG NEED!!!!
    OC NEED!!!
    DE NEED!!!!!
    P Need!

  168. Bucnut2 Says:

    Need o and d line

  169. bucrightoff Says:

    Losing twice to Derek Anderson twice in a season might be the top reason to fire Lovie. And there are many reasons to do it.

  170. Bucnut2 Says:

    Crap, oh well McCown will still blow it

  171. Matt Says:

    Lol McCown throws a 2 seam fastball in the flats..
    I agree, Leonard Williams or trade back and grab a QB late first early second. Some say Williams doesnt fit our scheme and I call bs. He fits any scheme, I like him better than Clowney bc of his strength.

    Gregory isnt that good with his hand on the ground just like MJ. They are both 3-4 OLBs.

    We actually have great personnel for a 3-4 defense.

    Cousins wouldnt make any other roster in this league…..

  172. Soggy Says:

    verner timely strip turnover um

  173. Bostonfan Says:

    I’m so tired of this putrid team. Been a season ticket holder since ’99 and I simply can’t take it anymore. Frankly, I’m owed, no, I demand, an apology from someone in the Glazer family for continuing to accept what this team has done since the Super Bowl win while also cashing my checks every year. I am amazed that the fan base has not demanded someone from ownership to speak to the pain their loyal fans have been enduring!

  174. Bucnut2 Says:

    There are the bucs I recognize

  175. Connor Says:

    Just forfeit these last 2 games and be done with this train wreck of a season. Lovie Smith is a complete joke and this season has been a total flop (words can’t describe). And please ditch the hideous uniforms; they already represent horrible on field play better than the creamsicles did!

  176. mark2001 Says:

    But here is the serious question…

    What if we win this game and we don’t get one of the top two QB’s in next years draft?

    What will it cost Glazers in fan attendance the next couple of years?

    What will it cost the Glazers in season tickets for the next couple of years?

    What will it cost the team in regards to being comparative the next few years?

    What will it mean to Lovies and Lichts future with the Bucs over the next few years?

    Serious question…serious answers please…

  177. Soggy Says:

    evans getting jiggy

  178. Bucnut2 Says:

    Fire lovie please and soon

  179. StPeteBucsFan Says:


    “Niether qb in this draft. Trade down, get lots of picks and get Cooke in the 2nd round”

    Hey at last we agree! The Heisman makes me nervous. Seriously look at the record of the Heisman trophy QB’s in the first round.

    And like you I respect Cook.

    I think we’ve all seen enough of Josh. He’ll make a great QB coach as long he is not the one under center.

  180. Luther Says:

    @mark, either one of those guys will put butts in the seats. We will suck just as much next years so there is no reason to feel good enough to buy season tickets unless there is change behind the center.

  181. Islandbucfan Says:

    Please dont screw up these draft pics!!!

  182. Matt Says:

    Lollllll biggun! Sanchez?!! Ya know that does sound like something Lovie would do.

    Smith is a beast!!

  183. Soggy Says:

    good sack for smith

  184. Jughead Says:

    wow….a sack! who would have thunk?

  185. P'cola Buc Says:

    Play like a carcass …..to get Marcus!!!

  186. Bostonfan Says:

    mark2001 – I really don’t think the Glazers care. Regardless of his the team plays, or who shows up for the games, they still get their equal share of the (growing) broadcast revenue…….

  187. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Hey Marcus!!! Short passes…..short passes…..short passes….to the backs & TEs……..

  188. Bucnut2 Says:

    Looking forward to the number 1 pick

  189. mark2001 Says:

    Of course all those questions were predicated on winning one of the last games and not being able to draft one of the top two QB’s.

  190. passthebuc Says:

    comic relief
    they stink

  191. Bucnut2 Says:

    Pcola don’t want Marcus see rg iii

  192. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    Can’t we trade the Glazer boys for Jeff Vinik at the owner’s position.

    Sadly no but do we all not agree…yes Lovie sucks…McCown etc but the BIGGEST need for this franchise is at the OWNER position.

    If only fans could draft owners I’d use that top pick on Vinik. I’m not sure we have a shot with the Glazers.

    Yeah it could be worse we could have Snyder.

  193. Alexstotle00 Says:

    Who ever wants Leonard Williams has no brain, he’s not good at all and at best is worth a third round pick. Watch him get man handled all Day!

    Randy Gregory is the player that we should get if we decide not to get a QB, I know he fits a 3-4 LB better but his closing speed is beyond amazing!
    He’s better than Clowney coming out of the draft!

  194. Bucnut2 Says:

    Bucs are aweful

  195. mark2001 Says:

    Bucnut…I know S. King doesn’t think he is very good…and that makes me look at him twice.

  196. Jughead Says:

    Does McCown ever change up the snap count? EVER?

  197. Bucnut2 Says:

    Evans drop

  198. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Great calls Marcus!!!

  199. Soggy Says:

    long snapper saved the TD

  200. MariotaOrWinstonOrWalkdaPlank Says:

    Those monstrocities known as uniforms should be tossed in a wicker man and burned in the middle of Raymond James Stadium. Glazer boys are ruining this team in every way, even the looks!!!

  201. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    0-6 and a fumble. Seriously under normal conditions wouldn’t any coach HAVE to consider the backup QB at this point. What can he hurt?

    I’m no MGM member but this is getting absurd. Maybe Lovie is trying to tank it.

  202. Bucnut2 Says:

    Mark, king is an idiot. I’m looking at scouting reports from people who know football.

  203. Jughead Says:

    0 for 6 with a fumble……..lol

  204. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Worst oline in the history of the NFL…..

  205. CJO Says:

    0-6 and a fumble lost (inside you own 10). That’s the way you start a second half of football at the QBS position. lol

  206. Bucnut2 Says:

    Jack smith is good

  207. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    Andrus Peat from Stanford!!! Might be able to trade down a few spots and still pick up this franchise left tackle and an extra pick somewhere.

    Then as bucnut suggests get Cook or another good QB in the second round.

  208. CJO Says:

    What’s the record for most receiving yards for a TE in a game?

  209. Bucnut2 Says:

    Pick it up

  210. Jughead Says:

    That should have been Off PI

  211. SteveK Says:

    Glennon is the best QB on our roster.

    Here’s to hoping Jim Harbaugh is coming to town…

  212. Bucnut2 Says:


  213. Bucnut2 Says:

    Nice pass

  214. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    I thought Sims was supposed to be speed in space. Nice moves but not blazing speed. maybe it’s still the ankle.

  215. StPeteBucsFan Says:


    Nice sentiment but the Glazers cannot afford to pay Schiano a couple more years and Lovie another four AND add the king’s ransom Harbaugh will be worth.

    Nice to dream though.

    Oh noes…Sims limping again…favoring that ankle?

  216. Soggy Says:

    1 down run then second down run most always..

  217. DB55 Says:

    What’s up JBF? What did I miss?

  218. MadMax Says:

    If we’re talking a pass rush LB, I’ll take Shane Ray! But I dont think LB should be addressed in the 1st….but knowing Lovie, he could do it.

  219. Soggy Says:

    hey DB55 about the same old stuff mcCoy hurt again

  220. Dave Pear Says:

    Welcome back DB55.
    How was your cruise?

  221. BuccoDav Says:

    You would think that McClown, with all his so called experience, would be given the freedom to audible to a oass play when there are 8 or 9 in the box…

  222. Bucnut2 Says:


  223. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Game is close because we are better on penalties……hope I’m not speaking too soon….

  224. DB55 Says:

    Absolutely awesome. Ate waaaaay too much. 🙂

  225. DB55 Says:

    If you ever get a chance to go to st.marteen I highly recommend it.

  226. Jughead Says:

    this is probably one of the longest movie trailers I have ever seen

  227. Soggy Says:

    another smart coach challange

  228. Jughead Says:

    how the hell is that a fumble?

  229. Wesley Says:

    How does a ball go 20 yards downfield without the quarterbacks arm going forward. The NFL has the worst refs its almost laughable.

  230. Soggy Says:

    I believe it..

  231. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    Who was it who was waiting for our critical penalty. Bingo.

  232. Alexstotle00 Says:

    2 BS calls in a row

  233. Simpleasthat Says:


  234. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Spoke too soon on penalties…

  235. Jughead Says:

    roughing the passer? shut the hell up Brady, you retard!!!

  236. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    At least the D is still playing with passion despite the lack of help from the O and the loss of McCoy.

  237. Dave Pear Says:

    The fix is in.
    Even the Refs want us to get the 1st pick in the draft.

  238. Wesley Says:

    The nil needs to lighten up on some of these penalty calls. There’s too many penalty calls throughout the league.

  239. Jughead Says:

    he touched his helmet with his pinky

  240. Simpleasthat Says:

    We need a stop here

  241. Soggy Says:

    @Dave Pear Says:
    December 14th, 2014 at 4:35 pm
    The fix is in.
    Even the Refs want us to get the 1st pick in the draft.

    I am thinking the same thing..lol

  242. DB55 Says:

    Where’s mason foster?

  243. MadMax Says:

    MF is hurt….Lansanah in his place and doing pretty good.

  244. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    Geez can you imagine how excited TE’s get when they see the Buc defense up next on their schedule. Why is that our Achilles heel?

  245. Bucnut2 Says:

    The refs gave nothing to do with this… We suck

  246. Kevin Schmidt Says:

    Where is the integrity of this league??? It’s gone? I have NEVER seen a roughing the passer call like that. I’m to the point where if the NFL disappeared and was no more next season I could care less. Really. It’s not even a fair sport anymore. Glad the CFL is around. I’ll have to start learning all of the teams and pick one to root for. This league has become a corrupt joke. It should be illegal. As much money as fans invest it should be a fairly called game for every team. It’s not.

  247. Jughead Says:

    well, they have something to do with it

  248. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    Those old enough remember Dandy Don Meredith on MNF when he began to sing the old Willie Nelson classic…”Turn out the lights the party’s over”. If the Panthers kick a FG here warm up Dandy Don.

  249. cmurda Says:


    It’s already an achilles heel but with the way our D Line is allergic to the QB, the TE is the most logical target after having 12 minutes to find someone.

  250. Dave Pear Says:

    Start singing Dandy Don.

  251. Soggy Says:

    vernor 3 point drop

  252. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Finding multiple ways to lose another close game….Verner should have that pick!!!

  253. Bucnut2 Says:

    Yes we’re getting close. We just need McCown to be mccown

  254. Luther Says:

    Well, that means we need a TD and a FG to win. The Mariota plan is right on schedule.

  255. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    Let the debate resume. Who do we want with that #1 pick. Only two more chances to blow it. Although there is one scenario where the Titans could still pass us if their strength of schedule drops relative to ours. We’d still have the 2nd and so a QB would still be available.

    Would Jameis lovers accept Marcus if Jameis was already selected and vice versa?

  256. Lovie equals 2015 Blackouts Says:

    Joe’s boyfriend Johnny Manziel blows.

  257. Patrick in VA Says:

    It’s not even fair. It’s like our offense is the scout team.

  258. bucrightoff Says:

    ODB > Evans. And Evans is great but Beckham is amazing right now. Might already be top 5 receiver.

  259. DB55 Says:

    Shepard should have been in there since week 1. Where’s murphy?

  260. Dave Pear Says:

    ODB? Is that Old Dirty Bastard?

  261. Bucnut2 Says:

    Uh oh don’t mess this up

  262. Bucnut2 Says:

    1 pick is within reach

  263. Jughead Says:

    might want to speed it up a bit

  264. Soggy Says:

    a lot of time ticking of the clock on those last plays

  265. Bucnut2 Says:

    Lovie you’re right

  266. Bucnut2 Says:

    Why speed it up?

  267. MadMax Says:

    LOL, go Josh, that was funny HAHAHA

  268. Bucnut2 Says:

    There you go. Lovie was right. McCown is THE guy

  269. TAC Says:

    Tebowed the Panties….

  270. MariotaOrWinstonOrWalkdaPlank Says:

    You kidding me? Look at the sh!t Mike Evans has to deal with on offense. He is a diamond in a pile of turds.

    Nobody was talking about Beckham before his stupid catch, now they treat him like the second coming of Jesus Christ.

  271. Bucnut2 Says:

    Lovie post game: another winnable game. Simple as that

  272. Jeagan1999 Says:

    If only McCown looked like that all season! Instead he’s looked more like Jamarcus Russell most of the time!

  273. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Johnny Football debut……loss 30-0…..

  274. MariotaOrWinstonOrWalkdaPlank Says:

    Manziel went from Johnny Clipboard to Johnny INT. Against a second rate Bengals D that even Liar Smith’s atrocious offense could score on. We gonna get an article on that Joe?

  275. Bucnut2 Says:

    Looking good. One more first down

  276. bucrightoff Says:

    ODB is the first rookie ever to have 90 yards in 7 straight games. Dude is a monster right now. And Lovie has lost twice to Derek Anderson. Fire him after the game.

  277. cmurda Says:

    Game over. This team couldn’t win a game in crunch time if it was literally given to them. I’m clamoring for Mariota or to a lesser extent Winston more and more.

  278. BuccoDav Says:

    Beckham has a decent qb throwing to him, Evans has a glorified clipboard holder throwing to im… not even close to a level playing field.

  279. Bucnut2 Says:

    Marriotta, agree with you, where are you joe. Still in love with johnie?

  280. sho-nuff Says:

    nice pick-up carolina….team lose out needs you to finish off this team

  281. Bucnut2 Says:

    Bocce, exactly!

  282. MariotaOrWinstonOrWalkdaPlank Says:

    Yeah and wasn’t Evans the first to have 100 in 3 straight? With the worst offense in the league?

  283. Bucnut2 Says:

    Looking good! first down please

  284. Bucnut2 Says:

    Dang there’s still hope… NOT. McCown playing qb

  285. MadMax Says:

    not over yet…..

  286. Curse of Gruden Says:

    After 15 weeks, the Bucs are finally getting it right. Just lose baby! Great game guys!

  287. MadMax Says:

    if they get within a 60 yard attempt, Murray just might make it……but I want them to lose

  288. Dave Pear Says:

    So, you’re saying we still have a chance?

  289. Bucnut2 Says:

    That’s the McCown i know

  290. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    Only a two point loss. A moral victory for the Bucs right. That’s the only kind of wins we get this days.

  291. Soggy Says:

    1st round baby..

  292. MadMax Says:

    over….INT YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  293. bucrightoff Says:

    I’m not saying Evans is bad, he’s great. Beckham is better at the moment, better route runner for sure.

  294. Dave Pear Says:

    Bye Bye!

  295. Curse of Gruden Says:

    McClown doesn’t let me down!!!!

  296. Bucnut2 Says:

    Nice throw! 2-12 yeah baby! #1 pick still in play!

  297. Luther Says:

    Welcome to Tampa Marcus.

  298. 911bucs Says:

    Josh=not very good

  299. MariotaOrWinstonOrWalkdaPlank Says:

    Russell Shepard lmao come on McClown and least make it look like you are TRYING to win.