Jameis Watch: Target Of Hate

November 7th, 2014

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Crab-legs-stealing, BB-gun-shooting, obscenity-hollering, Heisman-Trophy-winning, national champion James Winston, the pride of Florida State University, continues to look like a much better quarterback prospect than Mike Glennon and Josh McCown.

It’s Joe’s regular nugget on the Jameis Watch, celebrating the best quarterback to wear No. 5 ever in the state of Florida.

When will the hate stop?

Joe gets that uber-talented, troubled Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston is not everyone’s cup of tea. Many hate him because he is good. Ungodly good. Some hate him because he is a national champion.

Nobody has the SEC-types this freaked out since Billy Sherman was having his way with Georgia. Some hate Winston because he was not charged in some hassle with a chick. Last Joe checked, it is the legal system that tries and convicts folks, not Twitter.

Yes, Winston is being blamed for everything this side of Ebola. Recently, a sinister, unfounded rumor surfaced (fueled by Paul Finebaum-wannabe with a law degree, Clay Travis) and claimed Winston was shaved points.

So if the Bucs decided they would draft Jameis, this rumor will cause more sleepless nights than his alleged episode of getting too handsy with the women. Nothing gets Roger Goodell running to NFL lawyers quicker than gambling, right Chris Christie?

The next rumor Joe expects to hear about Winston is that he is recruiting for ISIS.

And after that, Winston is a finalist for the opening in the office of outgoing attorney general Eric Holder.

97 Responses to “Jameis Watch: Target Of Hate”

  1. vegasbuccaner Says:

    Don’t want him…….not a buc man….don’t need anymore losers on the team.we have enough

  2. lightningbuc Says:

    Last Joe checked, it is the legal system that tries and convicts folks, not Twitter.


    Unfortunately, Twitter and its users has more credibility than the Barney Fife Tallahassee Police Department and City Hall.

  3. RastaMon Says:

    He his the epicenter of stupidity…..kinda like the hottest horniest girl you ever encountered sticking her tounge in your ear as a horned up 19 year old…whispering…I have A.I.D.S.

  4. sho nuff Says:

    dude its obvious he has some sort of bi-polar disorder IMO….not unlike that hot freak you meet at the bar…you KNOW it will be THE most exciting night of your life but you will pay for it big time…

    So far Tampa Bay has swallowed Josh Freeman, Josh Hamilton, scores of lighning players and nearly gripped Longo…rumors? maybe, but it’s always around the same scene…

    Jaimis can succeed in the NFL with a team that has a culture and enviornment that can keep him contained and focused…The Buc organization is unstable to say the least, pathetically led at worst….

    We ALL would love to have the BEST talent in the nation…however not at the cost of another 4 years of drama….

  5. Kingpin1 Says:

    Joe it doesn’t matter how good he can throw or how fast he can or how many championships he may win, if he continues to do the things he does off the field he will be nothing but a memory in a few years. Talent will only take you so far. His personality is what will bring him down! But go ahead and keep shoving the Jamis watch down our throats it really makes your site great!

  6. Buc1987 Says:

    The Bucs and the rest of you non believers will rue the day that they pass up on Jameis Winston.

    Mark down fools.

    @Joe…I think Jameis Watch is excellent, because I think that they ARE going to take him no matter what I do or say, but I’m going to put in the effort before the last home game with my Winston Revolution petition.

    I’ll arrive @ Al Lopez good and early. I’ll devote my time and money for parking to get those signatures, no matter what any fool on here says. I’m going to start a campaign that Bucs fans have never witnessed before.

    Some of you think I won’t do it or that I’m crazy for trying, but something HAS to be done. That’s just how much of FAN I am. I’m here to help you guys revel in the glory of Jameis Winston as I have being a Noles fan.

    When they draft him. A simple thanks 87 will do and you’re welcome.

  7. ryan Says:

    lol, the irony of Joe not wanting Incognito but is all over Winstons nuts.

  8. Luther Says:

    I would be shocked if Lovie drafted him but if he passed on Mariota and Winston, I will be extremely unhappy. We need a QB or we will never right this ship. I get it that people want wins and I do too but we won’t get a quality QB late in this draft. I don’t buy getting a QB late in the first round because that is too risky and frankly, we never have the luck to pull it off. We went late in the first round for Freeman and no one even knows where he is right now.

  9. WalkdaPlank Says:

    Jameis killed Kennedy, created Mad Cow Disease, and is the reason the Bills lost 4 straight Super Bowls.

  10. BucFan Says:

    ryan Says:

    November 7th, 2014 at 7:35 pm

    lol, the irony of Joe not wanting Incognito but is all over Winstons nuts.

    And I am sick of it. Site is becoming lame. Late.

  11. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Joe won’t do a poll because the numbers wanting Jameis are so low…..that’s my guess…..It would make no real sense to run a Jameis watch once results were posted.
    Why else do we not have a poll…..because it is requested by a poster?

    Time for the poll Joe….lets see where JBF readers stand…..

  12. WalkdaPlank Says:

    I agree

    Poll time.

  13. RastaMon Says:

    I’d be shocked if Lovie was the coach next draft….and that Flameis will even come out…he needs at least one year of NCAAF without any incidents

  14. Newbucsfan!!! Says:

    This is how it would probably go if the Bucs drafted Winston: The first year will be hella crazy for him and the Bucs. Lovie, Winston, offensive and defensive players would be interviewed all season by national media. The defense will be better so the Bucs will have a good season bringing more attention to Tampa and JoeBucsFan. WDAE will constantly have fodder to go over and the phone lines will light up everyday. The Bucs will probably have at least two nationally televised games with the pressure mounting every game causing the team to have the “us against the world” mentality. And in spite of all the craziness surrounding this team because of the media the team will actually be pretty boring just doing their jobs and going home. But at least they’ll make for great tv, selling lots of tickets and merchandise.

  15. Newbucsfan!!! Says:

    DRAFT WINSTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  16. Dave Pear Says:

    It’s way to early for a poll on NEXT years draft. We’re not even done with this years season. Crazy talk.

  17. RastaMon Says:

    @Buc 1987….chances that Flameis becomes a Buc are about the same as Al Lopez Field being reconstructed outside the RayJay

  18. lightningbuc Says:


    It’s just football. Dedicate your energy to something important – a charity, politics, something other than a bunch of grown men playing a game and getting paid millions. It’s not that big of a deal.

  19. Newbucsfan!!! Says:

    Do you guys and gals realize how much shine the Bucs and Tampa would receive from having Winston as the BUCS QB? It would be like the Miami Heat with the big 3 and every Bucs game would be discussed because of him and the more they win, child please!

  20. RastaMon Says:

    Word is Flameis has already signed a movie deal…..
    “The Longest Retard”

  21. 911bucs Says:


    So who is the QB coach that will help develop Jameis?

  22. Newbucsfan!!! Says:

    @ LightningBuc……………. I agree totally that America deifies the athletes and worships the sport of football and although I like it I have to be careful not to be overly invested into this sport like its a religion. I must admit though that it is pretty entertaining, LOL and OH, Draft Winston!

  23. RastaMon Says:

    Flameis threw more Int’s than Glennon…last week

  24. Warthog Says:

    Spending a top 3 pick on a guy where there is a good chance his off-the-field dramas will eventually see him miss time is a big risk.

    Lovie is not a big risk taker.

  25. RastaMon Says:

    @ Newbucsfan….Do you guys and gals realize how much SHAME the Bucs and Tampa would receive from having Winston as the BUCS QB?

  26. Lamarcus Says:

    As a handicapper myself… yes I live in Vegas I had Louisville halftime and brewed a upset myself. So point shaving is not legitimate. Btw. Fsu was only favorite by 4. Everyone chased Louisville. Everyone mad cuz they lost too.

  27. bucrightoff Says:

    Friendly math reminder:

    Bucs + Lovie = No Jameis
    Bucs – Lovie = Possible Jameis.

  28. Dave Pear Says:

    Winston threw those Int’s because he was shaving points. Duh.

  29. Aceofaerospace Says:

    There’s a better chance that Lovie would trade next years #1 pick to Cleveland for Johnny Manziel than he would draft Winston. Not gonna happen. Not worth the daily updates.

  30. Tye Says:

    My vote is NO to Winston….. No player is a god and deserves to be worshipped… Who in history has been accused of this many character issues while still in college… Where there is smoke their is fire……. I foresee when he gets a pay day he could very well end up like Michael Vick….. Something that will get him in major trouble and then set back whatever team drafted him….. No THANKS!…. Many Bucs fans have been through that enough already!!!

  31. 77 bassguitarist Says:

    @ ryan….so true joe is hangin from the nuts

  32. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    @ Dave Pear

    “It’s way to early for a poll on NEXT years draft. We’re not even done with this years season. Crazy talk.”

    Then you must believe it’s crazy for Joe to run a daily article….not only on next year’s draft….but one possible player in the draft…..please don’t insult Joe.

    Those that don’t want polls are usually afraid of the results!!!

  33. abdominal snowman Says:

    Draft this kid, he is going to make a GM look like a genius one day for drafting him. This is the best qb to come out since Luck. Plenty of players have had off field issues and go on to be great NFL players. Heck Can Newton got kicked out of Florida for stealing laptops and no off field issues for him in NFL. I would be thoroughly disappointed in this regime if they passed on the kid. We need a franchise qb for once and every once in a while you must take a risk to succeed. He is a leader on the field and a proven winner and that’s exactly what the Bucs need.

  34. gatrbuc17 Says:

    Joe………….I think MOST of us dont like him because he is a stupid individual that thinks he is entitled enough to do anything he wants without consequences. I personally cannot stand ANY person that repeatedly takes his God Given talents and gifts for granted and pisses on them. Johnny Football fan before he started acting as stupid as Winston. I completely agree that he is the most all around polished passing QB in college. But he is stupid and arrogant. Simple as that

  35. INDYbucsfan Says:

    I just want to make it to the playoffs. Idc who the hell the QB is.

  36. Not Jim Walker Says:

    once in a lifetime quaterback. SEC folk will continue to conjure up rumors, but won’t suceed. The bucs would be stupid to pass him up. I hope for his sake he goes to a good team, not my bottom dwelling bucs.

    Joe, you play into the hate with your nicknames for him. Am I the only one that get’s tired of that. It was funny the first time, not since then.

  37. gatrbuc17 Says:

    No…….Winston Earned every one of those nicknames

  38. Mike J Says:

    ” Nothing gets Roger Goodell running to NFL lawyers quicker than gambling, right Chris Christie?” Right, Paul Hornung.

  39. Buccfan37 Says:

    The Winston rape allegation is supposed to be nearing an end. That is the most serious accusation against him. He will almost certainly be cleared of that, seeing the time expired and the lack of anything on that matter taken seriously so far. FSU and the state capital power structure protect their own. Also rape is’nt the crime it used to be, not long ago it was a capital offense where severe punishment was the norm. Welcome to the 2000 teens. The rest of Winston’s shenanigans were minor incidents most young men experience growing up, some mature later than others. I’m not against Winston possibly playing for the Bucs, but I doubt it will happen.

  40. Buc1987ForJameis Says:

    @abdominal snowman….they just don’t get it do they?

    You know why? Because most of them are used to this shyte show that we get to watch year in and year out. They come on here and whine about how they are sick and tired of the losing and Lovie this and Lovie that. You know what? Let them continue to bi*ch and moan. Not taking Jameis Winston is precisely why they will be here in 3 years still bi*ching and moaning about the same old shyte they are bi*ching and moaning about now. Jameis will go off to another team and they will say man our team sucks, seeing how we traded down to build up picks and we STILL suck.

    Then when I say, well we could have had Winston. Someone on here will say stop talking about Winston and he knows who he is. He’ll say stuff like the following while were still sucking.

    Winston is not here, we didn’t draft him, he’s with another team, it’s water under the bridge, he’s gone, he’s playing for the Jets, move on, why bother? etc.

  41. Joseph Mamma Says:

    The once in a lifetime QB was Luck, who was drafted by the Colts. He was a much better prospect than Winston, and it’s not even close.

  42. Buc1987ForJameis Says:

    Girls meets boy at an FSU bar. Girl willingly (not dragged) gets into boy’s car, back to boy’s apartment for what apparently is tea, cookies and nice chat.

    Sex was the furthest thing from her mind at 2 a.m. in the morning coming out of that bar when she went back to the apartment. She had no idea why she was going back to the apartment with 3 men.

    In best NY accent. WHATEVA!

  43. Mr. Patrick Says:

    Seriously, are you guys so desperate for a winning team that you would want a guy like this as the face of your team? Wow

  44. Skyline Crew Says:

    Better chance he takes Mariota.

    Also, there already someone selected for Holder’s former position.

  45. holymoly Says:

    Draft Jameis ! Period ! Bucs need a Pro Bowl QB, Winston is the one. He’s a kid, kids do stupid things. The cowboys still worry about dez Bryant, yet, they still love his playmaking ability , take a chance.

  46. Buc1987ForJameis Says:

    Joseph Mamma…do yourself a favor and me. Google Jameis Winston Andrew Luck.
    See how many times it’s been said that he might be the next Luck.

  47. abdominal snowman Says:

    Mr Patrick, what is ” a guy like this” mean?

  48. Buc1987ForJameis Says:

    Mr. Patrick …YES I do. Or perhaps we can get another Trent Dilfer, Vinny T, Craig Erickson, Josh Freeman, Bruce Gradkowski, Chris Simms, Shaun King, should I go on any further?

  49. mike Says:

    boy this 1987. guy really has a h..d on for this kid wow!!! dude I hope they do take him. and when he su..s and or gets suspended or some kind of trouble im sure. we can wait another 5 years or so as usual! to start this crap all over again. and also rub it your face 1987.

  50. Buc1987ForJameis Says:

    Brian Griese, Chris Chandler, Joe Ferguson anyone, anyone Bueller??

  51. Buc1987ForJameis Says:

    Jeff Carlson, Josh Johnson, Rob Johnson…

    This LIST goes on and on….

    In my best Jack Nicholson impersonation…

    You fans don’t want a franchise QB…you can’t the truth!

    We’ve NEVER had a franchise QB you clowns….

  52. Buc1987ForJameis Says:

    Your damn right I want him. I’m sick and TIRED of the BS string of QB’s this team put’s out on the field….you people have NOOOOOOOOO idea how much I want this kid in the Bucs huddle. I have dreams of this kid in an ugly Bucs jersey.

    Mike Glennon, Steve Deberg (yes I’m making fun of him too), Josh McCown

  53. Buc1987ForJameis Says:

    LOL now I’m leaving out words….You can’t HANDLE the truth.

    Ha ha ha people are going to see the comments on the outside and say wow 52 comments already…little do they know that 25 of them are all mine!

    Sorry Joe I’m done for now…did I forget Trent Dilfer?

  54. mike Says:

    your clown is no franchise QB. this team still needs a bunch of players. and above all a coach and staff. do u know how many QBS that were great in college then suck in the nfl. ALOTTTTTT!!!!! NOBODY KNOWS but u I guess. not to many teams want to risk much on a troubled kid. good luck.

  55. Skyline Crew Says:

    If you guys don’t take Mariota you will be sorry. We will suck and you will be crying why. I have dreams of this kid and when he was 12 he played football. 12, that is crazy. You guys just can’t handle Mariota. Aaahhhhh.

  56. Max Says:

    I don’t watch any college football but if this guy is as good as cam newton then hell yes

  57. Buc1987ForJameis Says:

    My petition goal is 30,000 signatures and watch me get them. I’ve done stuff like this before and succeeded. I will succeed again. The petition will have a promise attached to it. To promise to buy season tickets in 2015 if they draft Jameis.

    Then it goes off to One Buc care of Bryan and Joel Glazer. The rest is up to them.
    Hell I might even hand deliver it myself.

  58. Buc1987ForJameis Says:

    ESPN.com by David M Hale

    Page 1 begins with a list of the characteristics a good quarterback should possess: leadership, dedication, desire, mental toughness, character, confidence. It concludes with a detailed schematic breakdown of how to properly attack a Cover 2 defense.

    Jameis Winston was 12 years old when he wrote it.

    In a cover 4, the outside linebackers are the key. The best routes are go route and eagle.

    In man coverage, the defense’s job is to put pressure on the offense. The best routes are trail, mesh, shallow, smash.

    In a cover 3, bend, don’t break. The best routes are curl-flat, smash, vertical.

  59. Buc1987ForJameis Says:

    @Lee & Steve you guys can sign it too just for shyts and giggles if you like.

  60. Buc1987ForJameis Says:

    “The National Football League labeled as “inaccurate” a report in The New York Times yesterday that Warren Sapp had tested positive for cocaine. Sapp, the former Miami defensive lineman, is a potential No. 1 pick in next month’s N.F.L. draft, and the player’s attorney, Drew Rosenhaus, said he was “wrongly accused.”

  61. Pat Says:

    Here’s my take (it or leave it) perspective. Yes, please do HYPE UP this whipper snapper kiddo #5 (I loathe the other #5, by the way). Then do the ultimate 360 and pull a #8 out of the hat (and still keep the [future #8] for next year)…When the future comes assign him jersey #12. DONE!!!!

  62. Pat Says:

    I WANT MM #8!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  63. Depressedbucsfan Says:

    Right now I would be willing to take anyone who would turn this horrible team around. I have been a bucs fan for over 25 years and miss the years were we as fans use to bitch when we went to the playoffs every year. I can’t wait to get back to that. It feels like a lifetime ago though. For all of the quote bucs men bull Id give a damn what he was like as long as we win.

  64. Andrew 1 Says:

    @ 87

    If you do petition and it somehow works, you’d be my favorite bucs fan.

  65. Buc1987ForJameis Says:

    Depressedbucsfan <~~~gets it

  66. Buc1987ForJameis Says:

    mike Says:
    November 7th, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    “boy this 1987. guy really has a h..d on for this kid wow!!! dude I hope they do take him. and when he su..s and or gets suspended or some kind of trouble im sure. we can wait another 5 years or so as usual! to start this crap all over again. and also rub it your face 1987.”

    Anyone who says something like this can be seen through like cellophane.
    “I hope they take him” Just to rub it in 1987’s face when he sucks.

    Yeah okay Buccaneer-Gator fan. You hope the Bucs suck for 5 years just to prove me wrong….Don’t go away mad, just go away.

  67. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    No need for poll…..

    I counted: There are like 6 of you guys for Winston…….9 for Marriota…….14,651 want someone else and 193,017 want to trade for extra picks.

    Everyone but the Glazers (the ones who count) want to fire Lovie….

    &….here’s the big news……Josh Freeman would like a tryout!!!

  68. BucPuck Says:

    Joe how do you know the point shaving is not true? Is it out of the realm of possibility that he is helping his best friend from his home town? You can’t tell me he is intelligent for putting himself in all of these situations.

  69. Buc1987ForJameis Says:

    TBBF..14,651 want someone else and 193,017 want to trade for extra picks.

    That’s a lot of counting buddy…

    You’re right no need for a poll amongst JBF posters, when you have a crazy assed fan like me that’s going to pay to park and get people to sign a petition all day long. I won’t stop at that parking lot either. I will get to that 30,000 or possibly MORE. There is MANY ways to get this done and I have a lot of free time on my hands. So any hatred on these pages for our future franchise quarterback is pointless as far as I’m concerned. For I will have fans into the 10’s of 1000’s.

    I don’t even comment back at these fools anymore when it comes to Jameis. They don’t count when it comes to that petition. You’re one of the few remaining fans that I respect on this site and I think you know why.

  70. Buc1987ForJameis Says:

    By this time next year. You people will be thanking me for my time, sweat, and money to get this done.

    That’s how wrong you all are.

  71. Espo Says:

    No, we will STILL be laughing at you for wasting your time. Either they draft him or don’t. It has nothing to do with your chicken $t petition.

  72. BucBob1 Says:

    Lovie would never draft this guy.

  73. Brandon Says:

    Cam Newton had very similar off-field troubles and flaws before he came out of Auburn. Winston is a very similar prospect on the field as well, only instead of being a crazy good runner that has the ability to pass well, he’s a crazy good passer that has the ability to run well.

  74. Buccfan37 Says:

    Buc1987… Reads like you are suffering an obsessive compulsive disorder and those who don’t agree are not Bucs fans. You abandoned the tank for Winston talk because how could a Buc fan hope for his team to lose. I’m sure Winston is all you think he is and more. Man, you are hyped up, a chill pill may be needed.

  75. Architek Says:

    I still want this kid – we don’t need anymore choir boys on this roster!

  76. RastaMon Says:

    Drafting Flameis would turn the Bucs around all right…360 degrees

  77. Walter White Says:


    I like most of your takes but come on brother are you blind? What ON God’s green Earth makes you believe for 1 second that this kid’s behavior is going to make a significant change once he signs a contract for millions of dollars? Come on man. Open your eyes! You’re right – there is no denying his talent – nor is there any denying Tim Tebow’s upstanding character and leadership qualities! However, as much as I like Tebow for his character, I would be a fool to think he could come back to the NFL and suddenly play lights out football! Anyone would be equally foolish to think this kid Jameis is likely to change his behavior all of a sudden after being drafted.

    This team needs a QB. There is no denying that. But hell Joe, Josh Freeman had a lot of TALENT. What’s worse? Waiting another year to try and find the RIGHT guy, or stretching on a kid when you know good and damn well better but you let his talent and Florida connection cloud your thinking.

    Joe, you have a team that doesn’t know kw how to win. A team desperate for a leader. Is this the kind of human being you want to be associated with your team? My answer to that is a loud and clear Stone Cold Steve Austin HELL NO!

  78. Nybucsfan Says:

    Some people are to funny. The kids 20 can ball. He is ten times the player we have at QB now I would draft him in a sec.

  79. biff barker Says:

    It would be most fitting for the Bucs to draft Winston.

    Bo knows a turd when he sees one.

  80. Skyline Crew Says:

    Caron Palmer signed a 3 yr extension so no FA for him.

  81. gcarr74 Says:

    No way Lovie takes Winston over Mariota if given the opportunity and QB is what they’re taking. I doubt they take a QB in the first 2 rounds knowing Lovie’s track record.

  82. BoltIsle Says:

    It amazes me how judgmental everyone is about Winston. He’s the Bill Clinton of college football in that everything that happens, regardless of how big or outrageous, he is being blamed for. If he’s guilty, they should throw the book at him. A lot of people forget the DA said the alleged victim would be a poor witness when they announced they were not pressing charges. Joe nails it as to why a lot of people hate him in that since they can’t beat him, tear him down with something else no matter what the facts may be.
    That said, for all the dumb decisions he makes off the field, he is arguably the smartest QB between the sidelines.
    And it’s not lost on me that any character concerns the Glazers, Lovie and Jason have could be addressed by one Gene Deckerhoff himself. He might have some insight. I’d be curious as to GD’s thoughts would be.
    I’d be happy with either, but prefer Winston. MM sometimes can be rattled. Still better than what we have though.

  83. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    BUC1987 is 100% right and the rest of you church going perfect angels need to remember your good book says to forgive…what has he done that the majority of college students havent done? Bang a girl and not call her back? Scream a clever line? Pilfer something? Win a heisman? Not lose a college game? All before the age of 21. He is a kid who has done dumb things its called life and learning… Tampa doesnt draft him and continues this 1980sesque catastrophe is fine with many that like to lose around here but not for those of us who see one of the best pro qb prospects to come around this century

  84. GO 1976 BUCS Says:

    At this point making a pitch for Manziel might be the wiser choice than drafting Winston?

  85. bucrightoff Says:

    Cam Newton is the most overrated QB in the NFL, so if you’re comparing Winston to him, that’s a pretty terrible comparison that no one is particularly interested in. A QB who can’t win without an elite team around him? We need Carson Palmer or someone of that ilk and we can win tons. But Cam can’t win anything by himself, and Carolina would be foolish to give him an extension (so hopefully they do it)

    87 dude you’ll see the light soon. The only choices right now for Lovie are Mariota, Leonard Williams or Randy Gregory. Crab Legs is off his draft board, you can pretty much guarantee that. So get Lovie fired and then the Jameis talk has some legitimacy. Otherwise its a waste of time and energy getting yourself worked up.

  86. BoJim Says:

    Wait!! Maybe we should get 1987’s take on this.

  87. JP4 Says:

    Big difference between “getting too ‘handsy’ with a chick”, and raping a woman. Regardless of whether he’s guilty (newsflash, OJ Simpson was guilty, too, even though he was acquitted) its obvious he is the type of person who feels the law doesn’t apply to him. Kind of like Vince Young, JaMarcus Russell, Ryan Leaf. Oh, and Jerramy Stevens.

  88. Mike J Says:

    “….the best quarterback to wear No. 5 ever in the state of Florida.” Hey, Joe, how about the greatness that was Harmon Wages??

  89. MGM4Life Says:

    Batten down the hatches (and the Publix seafood counter) as Jimbo ball comes to tampa

  90. HotRod Says:

    Does anyone seriously believe that the reining Heisman winner would put up 3 more picks just so a guy he knew 4 years ago could make 5Gs and compromise a shot at back to back Heimans, or compromise a shot at going undefeated? If they drove down into the red zone down by 7 at the end of the half and he throws the ball away out of bounds 3 times – ok lets take a look, but this is the most outrageous allegation I’ve heard. The kid will grow up and he will be a force in the NFL. But hopefully so does Mariota, so as long as we get one of them, we should be good.

  91. Trubucfan22 Says:

    Anybody for jameis Winston needs to look no further than josh freeman. Freeman had all the physical talent, all the hard work ethic you look for. But he was immature. Reminds me exactly of jameis. Yes, jameis is talented, very talented. But will his immaturity hold him back in the nfl? After accusations of receiving money for some autographs. It goes to show where his priorities are. He’s more worried about money and having fun, than focusing on football. I want my quarter to live and breathe football. I don’t want to settle on a good QB. I want elite. And being doesn’t come from huge talent. It comes from passion for the game. Winston doesn’t have that. It’s why he would rather play baseball instead of focusing on football.

    I would not be mad if the bucs drafted Winston. I actually think it would be the best thing for this team. But I have no hope of jameis being an elite QB. His mental makeup just isn’t elite material.

  92. Skyline Crew Says:

    I like Mariota. The kid took 20 credits last year so he could focus this year on football. It has shown as he is doing better than last year and is going to graduate with a degree. Smart kid and has priorities. When he is fully healthy he is great and he has a strong accurate arm.

  93. BuccDeez Says:

    Hey Everybody! Last I checked The kid JW is a winner period.
    Through all of the BS that kid & that school went through, Hard to rattle em. This year & last there still the team to beat. And they can’t do it with out him, you’ve seen it yourself.
    * On another note * last time we Won the SB the QB was from FSU & the whole team was somewhere near by universities. UF , FSU , Miami. Hey im a Gator fan , so im no FSU JW advocate. Im just Saynnnn!

  94. austinbucfan Says:

    I am a regular visitor and usually enjoy Joe’s takes, whether or not I agree. Not for long if this “hater” crap keeps getting tossed around. Its the laziest shortcut to dismiss (often valid) criticism. I don’t “hate” him, he just scares the crap out of me. If you want him fine, but don’t insult those of us who don’t by calling us “haters”. I hate that.

  95. Howard Cosell Says:

    I guess any jokes about people hating Winstin because
    they didn’t pull in college would be met with severe vitriol .

    From a purely football standpoint he’s great.
    If he melts down then he’s worse than nothing.

  96. John Eriksen Says:

    I have been a bucs fan for as long as i can remember watching football and I have been coming to this site daily for over 3 years now. I moved out of Florida last year and have come to this site daily for my bucs info since moving. To be a bucs fan these days is tough to say the least but under no circumstances would i not be a bucs except one. If this team drafts Winston i can assure you I will never support or watch this team again. I would prefer to be the worst team in the league for years to come than to draft this low life dirt bag with no integrity.

    As for Joe and this site. As i said i visit this site multiple times a day and read every article. ANd while i dont always agree with your Take Joe i still find your site worth while. When you started supporting the drafting of Winston I was disappointed but could deal with it. This article has totally changed my opinion of you. Granted Winston was not formally charged but by no means does that mean he is innocent. It was a faulty investigation cover up in my opinion but that is just my opinion. Your take that he got in trouble for getting “handsy” is a slap in the face to all sexual abuse victims. I am not a woman and dont have any daughters or sisters but I am so offended by that remark and disgusted by this post. While violence doesnt solve much in this case this poor girls father is well within his rights to beat your ass.

    [Rest of the diatribe has been deleted. Sorry if Joe believes in the legal system where one is innocent until proven guilty. Joe understands this is not popular on Twitter, but what the hell. — Joe]

  97. John Eriksen Says:

    [Rest of the diatribe has been deleted. Sorry if Joe believes in the legal system where one is innocent until proven guilty. Joe understands this is not popular on Twitter, but what the hell. — Joe]

    Right Now Joe believes in the legal system when it results in getting a talented player you want but not so much for players you wanted to see go or not join the team. And thanks for deleting my “diatribe” when it comes to saying anything about your potential money stream. I am not on twitter so thats not where my opinion comes from. . My last post and last time reading your site.

    And as long as Winston is not on this team GO BUCS!