Jameis Watch: Open Thread, Gators-Noles

November 29th, 2014
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Kickoff is 3:30 p.m. on BSPN

Crab-legs-stealing, BB-gun-shooting, obscenity-hollering, Heisman-Trophy-winning, national champion James Winston, the pride of Florida State University, continues to look like a much better quarterback prospect than Mike Glennon and Josh McCown.

It’s Joe’s daily nugget on the Jameis Watch, celebrating the best quarterback to wear No. 5 ever in the state of Florida.

Joe’s already predicted the Seminoles’ first loss. No, Joe is NOT a Gators fan.

Bang your comments here all game long. It should be a good one.

158 Responses to “Jameis Watch: Open Thread, Gators-Noles”

  1. Buccfan37 Says:

    GO FLORIDA GATORS!!, win this game for all the droves of fans in the Tampa Bay area.

  2. Luther Says:

    I think you are right Joe. I don’t see FSU winning this game. Too many close calls and I think Florida ends the streak tonight. Too bad because I was looking forward to seeing FSU in the playoff.

  3. Dave Pear Says:

    Lets get this party started!


  4. Couch Fan Says:

    GO GATORS!!!!

  5. Alexstotle Says:

    Mariotta anyone?

  6. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    More and more the QB position comes to the fore. Jameis is the star with pressure. The guy so many Buc fans lust for in the draft.

    Ironically it’s probably the QB position that did as much to cost Muschamp his job as anything else. Muschamp never found a competent SEC quality QB and it cost him. Having said that he clearly was not a bad recruiter. Outside of QB the Gators are matching up well against the Noles. The next man in for the Gators will have plenty of talent to work with, just look at the young defensive backs..a freshmen with two ints in this game already and he isn’t even the star.

    Meanwhile Lovie faces the same problem with the Bucs. He better find a QB and do it soon or he’ll go the way of Muschamp.

  7. BK Says:

    2 INTs in the forst 5 attempts….Yeah lets draft Winston….really starting to look like the next Joe Montana.

    MARIOTA or BUST!!!

  8. Buccfan37 Says:

    Winston with two picks in half the first quarter. Gators better add to the early lead.

  9. Bucnut2 Says:

    Bucs fans forget Winston, Ohio state qb Barrett is better without being a thug. I’m starting a draft Barrett mob

  10. Joe Says:

    Ohio state qb Barrett is better without being a thug

    Is he going to be able to play again?

    Always remember, spread-option quarterbacks often need a large learning curve in the NFL.

  11. Bucnut2 Says:


  12. Bucnut2 Says:

    What do you think Marriott is?

  13. Bucnut2 Says:

    Look at the stats between Barrett and Winston, it’s not even close

  14. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    Is it just me or am I hearing Freshman used a lot in describing the players making these big plays for Florida?

  15. Dave Pear Says:

    You are hearing correctly.
    The cupboards will not be bare for the new Head Gator.

  16. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    Wow! Just WOW!!! Don’t know if the Bucs will draft Famous Jameis or not but this will be a game that gets national attention.

    The Noles may very well pull this out but Jameis can forget a second Heisman.

  17. Bucnut2 Says:

    Case closed Winston sucks an the holes play no one

  18. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    Gator fans you can correct me because you obviously know more than me. But it just seems that Muschamp can recruit, he can game plan, but he produces chokers. I’m wondering if he’s simply too intense and his players just play too tight. What say ye Gator fans?

  19. Bucnut2 Says:

    Barrett, Barrett, barrett

  20. Mike10 Says:

    “shoot, poop, dang it, son of a gun, gosh darn it”


  21. Buccfan37 Says:

    Wonder what the over under is on picks in this game.

  22. Dave Pear Says:

    Muschamp is definitely intense. But, his expertise is on the defensive side.
    Kind of like Lovie. I think he is just too conservative on the offensive side.

  23. cmurda Says:

    The gators are like the Bucs of this year. 3 picks and Winston has thrown for 6 yeards yet the Gators lead by 2 tiny little points. The Noles will win this game and Winston will right the ship, its just a question of how much the Noles win by.

  24. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    Thank DP. And nice comparison between Muschamp and Lovie.

  25. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    BTW Cmurda and DP. Muschamp has something else in common with the Bucs and Lovie. He has never found an SEC quality QB. Hard to win when the most important position is understaffed. See the 2014 Bucs!

  26. gatrbuc17 Says:

    And some of you guys want Winston to be our QB? L to the O to the L

  27. Brent Says:

    Jt Barrett forget it. I’d rather just draft o-line guys and roll with mg. mariotta looks legit. Winston I’m down on. He plays in college for fsu and has more pics than Tds almost. What’s he gonna do in nfl with bucs o-line?

  28. Patrickbucs Says:

    Freeman part 2. I don’t care if he wins in a blowout he blows!!
    Against Bama, Oregon, etc at least 21-24-0

  29. Dave Pear Says:

    You’re absolutely right. He thought he had one with Driskel. But that’s where scouts can have premature evaluations. Driskel was the #1 ranked High School QB in the Nation coming out in 2010.

  30. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    What about Harris DP? He’s only a freshman but do you think he has what it takes to mature into an SEC QB?

    And FSU fans…what happens when Jameis leaves?

    Ah the story of Florida football right now is all QB’s. Can the Bucs find one in the draft or will they wait a year? Can FSU find a great QB recruit to replace Jameis or do you have one on the roster? Florida has to determine if Harris is the real deal and poor USF…they truly resemble the Bucs…no QB and they suck all over the field,.

  31. Bucnut2 Says:

    Brent Barrett much better than either Winston or marriotta. It plays a better schedule and has better stats. I agree lets draft lines on both sides not qbs

  32. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    FSU is beginning to smell it. Florida better step up with this drive or the game could slip away from them

  33. Bucnut2 Says:

    Patrick I agree winston = freeman

  34. Bucnut2 Says:


  35. Dave Pear Says:

    The few games I’ve seen Harris in,he looks like he could be the real deal.
    He originally committed to FSU but changed his mind at the last second.

  36. Dave Pear Says:

    Dammit man. The Gators really do remind me of the Bucs with all their stupid penalties.

  37. Dave Pear Says:

    And some people wonder why I drink so much.

  38. abdominal snowman Says:

    Name is will be a good to great qb in the NFL. You can never predict what will happen when someone gets paid millions but I would bet money Winston handles it better than Free. He has poise and is never rattled. He throws 3 picks then plays like it never happened.

    He is a natural leader and competitor. Just has “it” when it comes to winning football games. He might not have other qb’s numbers but no one has his win percentage. Either your anti FSU or anti winning if you don’t want him on your team.

  39. dabucs54 Says:

    Muschamp Put all his eggs in the Jeff driskel basket..

  40. Buccfan37 Says:

    Florida is not doing a good job holding FSU’s running game in check.

  41. Buccfan37 Says:

    Where’s Don Merideth to sing that little ditty about the lights?

  42. rrsrq Says:

    Jameis makes you think Mariotti, then you say damn, because when he is on, he is on. Buc’em, take’em

  43. Dave Pear Says:

    Needed that.

  44. Dave Pear Says:

    It’s still too early to be singing.

  45. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    “Either your anti FSU or anti winning if you don’t want him on your team.”

    No that’s simply not true. Many people who desperately want the Bucs to win simply believe that “Famous” Jameis is simply too big of an off field risk.

    There are some who believe against NFL competition the slow starts and incredible number of interceptions against amateurs will be too much to overcome against NFL quality defenses

    You can disagree with those opinions but that doesn’t make those who hold them anti FSU or anti winning.

  46. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    OK how many chokes in that first half?

    The drop kickoff by the Nole return man was pretty brutal.
    The lack of the catch by the Florida TE is my nominee for biggest or at least most costly choke. That was at minimum a ten and maybe a 14 point swing.

    Let’s see who holds it together in the second half. Can you imagine the pressure on these teams?

  47. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    Can somebody clarify the playoffs for me. Are the final three games,,semis and championships all on neutral fields? I’m thinking they’ve just taken three bowl games and assigned the top 4 teams to play it off in those three Bowl games.

    Is that correct? Will officials be neutral. IE Does the seeding at the end even matter.

    With GA Tech’s win over UGA that game against the Jackets on the road looms large for the Noles if they get past today.

    And you can tell I’m no Nole homer but what’s fair is fair. The Noles are the defending champions. Until somebody beats them they should have been #1. Not really a big deal since ultimately it will be decided on the field. But if FSU suffers any challenges due to how the final four are decided because of where they are ranked that’s absurd. If the Noles hang on today and beat GA Tech they clearly deserve to go into the post season playoff seeded #1

  48. Buccfan37 Says:

    Dave Pear… with FSU’s record for coming back in games, I’d be shocked to see the Gators prevail in this game. Shocked I tell ya, but it would be out of character for FSU and a pleasant shock.

  49. Todd Says:

    Winston does look like freeman 2.0 today indeed

  50. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    Wow DP. Have another belt. Bucs redux indeed. Move the ball, threaten and then a stupid holding penalty. This is what I expect to see tomorrow against the Bengals.

  51. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    OK Noles fans. It’s Jameis time!!!

  52. Dave Pear Says:

    The Gators should be up by 27-14 at least. But, they are down 21-19.
    That’s reality. I drink to escape reality.

  53. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Ramsey 2 the BUCS 2016

  54. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Osh#t ….Get’em

  55. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Let’s Get’em Famous!!!

  56. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    Dang. Now the yellow fever is hitting both teams. Zebras are getting too involved in this game.

  57. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Damn U Poole..lol

  58. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    Forget the off field issues. At some point won’t all these ints effect Jameis draft stock?

  59. Dave Pear Says:

    Nice play Poole!

  60. The Real Drew Says:

    High quality turnover machine there

  61. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Watch the fake!!!

  62. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Yeahhhhh Baby!!!

  63. Dave Pear Says:

    Uh-oh. Wide right Gators!
    This is an Effing nightmare.
    More beer here, please.

  64. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Cook’s a Beast!

  65. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    @Dave Pear

    lol..Yeah Buddy

  66. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    Sorry DP but you guys have committed too many stupid penalties. I’m not talking about the holdings etc. FSU is getting busted as well, but the cheap shots out of bounds and running your mouth for another 15 yards in a critical situation just don’t cut it.

    I blame all of this on coaching the same as with Lovie and the Bucs. He should have sent a message and benched ASF after the hot dog Cpt Morgan move and called Evans in and laid down the law as well.

    Urban Meyer interviewed before OSU’s game against Michigan was asked about this kind of stuff in the intense rivalry game. He said he addressed it clearly and told them any player who throws a punch will be pulled for the rest of the game. That’s the way you do it!!!

    Muschamp screams a lot at his players but they still lack discipline and smarts.

  67. cmurda Says:

    This smells a lot like the Jameis open thread of many weeks now. Everyone lambastes Winston and all he does is win. He’s having a bad game. Very true but he has that “it” factor when it’s crunch time. This game is shaping up as a sample of that. I’m by no means an FSU fan, I’m the reverse USF, but I give credit where credit is due and Winston is a gamer.

  68. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    All good point StPete

  69. Dave Pear Says:

    Yep. And now Muschamp is gone. I agree with you. No discipline.
    Oh waitress! I’ll take another.

  70. LUVMYBUCS Says:


  71. jo_mama Says:

    4 Ints So far. By all means draft Winston and suck for 4 more years.

  72. Ryan Says:

    Joe liking Winston is another example of Joe not knowing anything about QB talent.

  73. StPeteBucsFan Says:


    Lucky you’re a beer man!!! I’m a Grey Goose or Belvedere man and so I’d be trashed if I was you by now. 🙂

  74. cmurda Says:

    Great tackle on the fake. If that guy doesn’t make the tackle he’s got a first down and more.

  75. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    BTW It’s obvious I’m not exactly a Jameis fan. But he has talent and there’s no doubt about that. Right now his ankle is slowing him and probably messing with his passing motion. I give him some slack. OTOH he is playing on an incredibly talented team. They may not be as loaded as last year’s national champs but they are incredibly talented.

    You Nole fans keep selling yourselves short! You are sooo much more than just Jameis. Your running backs, including the freaking freshman have been exceptional and they’re doing it against a stout defense, Your offensive line may literally be better than the Bucs right now! And your defense doesn’t suck either.

  76. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Lol Wide Right…lol…Luv it

  77. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    Poor DP. Dude if I was there I’d buy your next round.

  78. cmurda Says:

    Ouch. Misses again. First 4 looked nice. Last 2, not so much. You don’t win games when you dont score TD’s. I’ve been trying to tell the Bucs this for several years.

  79. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Gotta Throw it now Famous

  80. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    Why is there an ACC crew calling this game. Shouldn’t be SEC either. They can’t arrange with another conference for independent refs.

    I’m not suggesting they are effecting the game or have homered the Gators in any way. I think they’ve been impartial. But I’m getting sick of the yellow flags against both teams.

  81. Connor Says:

    Florida State getting lucky again!

  82. LUVMYBUCS Says:


  83. Dave Pear Says:

    Thanks man. This is painful.

  84. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    No Flag…ok..Let’em play

  85. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Momma they out there hitting

  86. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Thank U Jimbo!

  87. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Go Verticle

  88. LUVMYBUCS Says:


  89. LUVMYBUCS Says:


  90. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    You owe us one DeMar

  91. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Mario Edward Jr…2015 3rd pick!!!

  92. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Game Time Baby!!

  93. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Ramsey Time!!

  94. LUVMYBUCS Says:


  95. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    If Harris pulls this off he will become the Gators Jameis next year.

  96. Dave Pear Says:

    See you guys later.

  97. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Wow..How could he drop that….

    Good Game DP…Get home safely brotha.

    Now for Mariota Vs. Mannion

  98. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    Sorry DP. Your guys made it a game.

  99. cmurda Says:

    Like I thought, FSU won the game in the end, but for whoever ends up coaching the Gators, they are 1 Quarterback away from being a force. The young core is already there.

  100. DB55 Says:


  101. The Real Drew Says:

    Remember, there’s no ‘I’ in team, but there is a ‘me’ in JaMEis

  102. LUVMYBUCS Says:


    Yes Sirrrrr

  103. Buccfan37 Says:

    You can’t beat FSU withouut scoring multiple TD’s.

  104. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    “whoever ends up coaching the Gators, they are 1 Quarterback away from being a force.”

    Agree Cmurda. Of course if Jameis is coming out then we could say the same thing about the Noles. And being a QB away can be a real challenge.

    We could say this about the Bucs and some seem to be doing that on these Jameis threads, but alas IMO unlike the Noles or Gators the Bucs are far more than just a QB away.

  105. WalkdaPlank Says:

    Florida State escapes losses like they escape criminal charges.

  106. cmurda Says:

    @St Pete,

    I agree. We are more than a QB away. We are a QB away, D Line help, and O Line help away. The rest of the pieces are there. I still trust martin. Rainey didn’t do anything special and our coaches aren’t even trying to run the ball because our O Line stinks.

  107. Mike J Says:

    StPeteBucsFan, I had the same thought, listening on radio. But they didn’t seemto favor either team.
    A strange, herky-jerky sort of game , it sounded like.

  108. Mike J Says:

    StPeteBucsFan, ever tried Skyy or Absolut??They did well in ratings from this site:

  109. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    Yeah Mike there was not a lot of flow to the second half. Of course the TV analysts said that both QB’s were miserable and that contributed to the lack of quality play.

    I saw lots of great individual efforts and talented athletes and I think the game’s final score probably reflected the reality of the game. FSU is better than Florida right now and probably only because their QB play is better. Their OL play was better as well but that was largely upperclassmen with lots of experience going against UF’s younger DL.

    Good game. Congrats to both Noles and Gators. Now we can root for the Noles next week against GA Tech and then hopefully watch them crush Saban and Alabama. I truly dislike Bama!!!!

  110. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    Mike J

    Funny you should ask. Once my wife had one of her old USF college girlfriends and her mom over for a Vodka blind test. I always make fun of the wine snobs who pay so much. I’m a doubting Thomas at most things.

    And so the four us set up a blind test with Grey Goose, Belvedere, Kettle One, Smirnoff, Absolute and Finlandia.

    We couldn’t separate the top two or bottom two but all four us clearly identified Grey Goose and Belevedere as the smoothest although the four of us had no consensus on which of those two was best, just that they were clearly better than 3rd place Ketel and pretty far ahead of both Smirnoff and Absolute and Finlandia. We couldn’t separate the last three.

    So now if it’s Vodka rocks or a Martini it’s Grey Goose or Belevedere, if we put a mixer in it, cranberry or tonic we settle for Ketel which is still quite smooth if you’re not drinking it straight up on the rocks.

  111. Simpleasthat Says:

    Joe, Winston tried to give Floriduh the game but they couldn’t capitalize but good prediction as always.

  112. buccanAy Says:

    Now, that’s an informative post SPBF

  113. Mike J Says:

    That’s interesting. It’s like to me, when it comes to bourbon,I can’t tell the diff between Jack & the much cheaper Ezra Brooks.
    I drink mostly gin nowadays.

  114. Mike J Says:

    I am looking forward to watching M.M. in a couple minutes. OTA, yay!!!

  115. DB55 Says:

    F* Winston draft Cook.

  116. Christopher Says:

    Winston looks more like josh freeman. Stares down his wrs constantly and has that horrendous release. And was a scumbag off the field.

  117. MTM Says:

    Winston throws 4 picks. Then FSU wins by the skin of their teeth. Then knuckleheads want to post “all Winston does is win”. Are you friggin kidding me? FSU’s won but Winston’s draft stock went down considerably.

  118. BlakeJohnson Says:

    After this game, I really don’t know who I want the bucs to draft. Winston tends to rely too much on his arm and makes mistakes because of it, but is clutch as heck and recovers from mistakes. Where as Mariota doesn’t really make any costly mistakes, but has yet to show he can be clutch or recover when he does make them. Its hard to say, but I think i’d take Mariota.

  119. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    Blake Good post. I IS hard to say for any “thoughtful” person. But I get it’s Florida and Nole fans are justifiably pumped up over their title and the chance to repeat. Just not sure they’re the most objective.

    I suspect anybody who is CERTAIN we should or should not take Famous Jameis.
    If we are all honest whoever we take will be a crap shoot.

  120. cmurda Says:

    I’m a Crown Royal fan myself. Straight up on the rocks, no b.s. in it. I can appreciate Crown Maple once in a while and am eager to try Crown Apple, but I usually like the good ole original.

  121. tmaxcon Says:

    Mike Glennon Sucks and Loses. Winston Sucks and Wins. Object of game is Wins.

  122. Patrickbucs Says:

    MTM Says:
    November 29th, 2014 at 9:34 pm
    Winston throws 4 picks. Then FSU wins by the skin of their teeth. Then knuckleheads want to post “all Winston does is win”. Are you friggin kidding me? FSU’s won but Winston’s draft stock went down considerably.

    So funny and exactly.. Why zero people on this board have any jobs scouting. Btw me 2.. If that was Oregon, bama, tcu, etc down 24-0 at least. Stu Winston people freeman was was so much better with so much less in college!!

  123. cmurda Says:

    To be fair I’m watching Mariota tonight and it’s tough to judge. The O State defense is a far cry from the Gators D. With that said, he looks sharp but the uniforms are painful to watch.

  124. 87ForJameisOrMariota Says:

    “Winston people freeman was was so much better with so much less in college!!”


  125. Patrickbucs Says:

    Really 187 wannabe?

  126. 911bucs Says:

    I think Jameis has relied on his arm the last 4-5+ games because he has a bad wheel.

  127. Shane Marco Says:

    Winston is an interception machine…that $hit will not work in the NFL period. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just a noles fan with their head stuck up winstons ass. Why dont you tell me what the pregame meal was 87.

  128. The Real Drew Says:

    Mariota watch in full effect

  129. The Real Drew Says:

    oh please pick Mariota

  130. The Real Drew Says:

    and bring somebody from Oregon to implement offense

  131. bucs fan Says:

    Let’s take best player and I don’t think this will be QB in top 5.

  132. Christopher Says:

    Joe only talks about Winston. I want mariota and so should everyone else. He’s the better prospect. To me he’s Russell Wilson off the field and on it with his dual threat abilities. Just taller.

  133. The Wizard Says:

    Christopher says:

    ‘Joe only talks about Winston. I want mariota and so should everyone else. He’s the better prospect. To me he’s Russell Wilson off the field and on it with his dual threat abilities. Just taller.’

    I wholeheartedly agree. And Marriota might even have more athleticism and potential than Wilson. I say no thanks to Winston. There’s a few guys I’d rather have than Winston.

  134. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    One half of Marcus and Famous doesn’t really seem as acccurate or smooth.

    Here is a great idea for a TV show from an old dude who used to be a TV sportscaster…oops I think it’s already been done! LOL

    Let’s get Chucky to do a special QB show at the end of the season. Not where he teases and sucks up to top prospects but where he runs Jameis tape right next to Marcus tape and tells us all the strengths and weaknesses of each player.

    Jameis is on a bad wheel and so I hesitate to throw him totally under the bus.
    But Marcus not only seems to see the field a lot better an put the ball where it should be..IE not in the defensive back’s hands…he’s clearly a better runner.
    And that’s not a slam on Jameis who is also an excellent runner and very mobile but more of props for Marcus.

    Mariotta moves like a crosss between Kaepernik and Aaron Rodgers IMO AR may be the best or should I say most effective runner in the league. He’s sneaky fast, smooth as silk, and makes great judgement about when to run. It takes more than simple speed, strength and shiftiness…judgement counts as well.

    Mariotta seems to possess it all and he has a second gear when it comes to speed. He can actually run away from some DB’s when he kicks it up a notch.
    And like Rodgers he is very smooth and picks his spots well.

    Mariotta is smooth and refined, Jameis is a physical specimen who is strong and can throw the ball out of the stadium.

    If I had to pick after tonight it would be no contest. But Jameis still has the ACC championship and two more games to prove himself. Right now though I lean to Mariotta. Add the off field issues and the choice becomes even easier.

    The Bucs should have time to break in a new QB. MG or Josh will be caretakers at the start of a season where we have NO chance at any real post season success. Next year will be a full on rebuilding year whether we want to admit it or not.

    Give someone like Mariotta a little tme to adjust and he could be the guy.

  135. Todd Says:

    Why draft Winston ? Just sign josh freeman kid is a bust will throw to many int’s in the nfl stares down wr’s

  136. Rob Says:

    Winston yet again barely gets by an unranked team at home. No way in hell should the Bucs consider using a top five pick on this guy.

  137. 321BucFan Says:

    Mariota lighting up Oregon state !! Mariota looks 10 times better than Winston did against Florida! Still need to see how both players perform in championship games and playoffs. From what I’ve seen so far I like Mariota !

  138. 87ForJameisOrMariota Says:


  139. 87ForJameisOrMariota Says:

    I’ll take Mariota in a heartbeat too…but the Gator whining on this thread is incessant.

    Winston can stay in school and piss everyone off for another year if he likes.

  140. Todd Says:

    If bucs want Winston fine but trade down to pick 25 and pick him no way he is worth a top 5 pick.

  141. 87ForJameisOrMariota Says:

    Hey Gator fans.


  142. 87ForJameisOrMariota Says:

    “Today is when the Seminoles get burned by their arch-rival, Florida.” -Joe

  143. Skyline Crew for Mariota or Winston Says:

    Jesus, Mariota looks awesome. Kid is a beast.

  144. Skyline Crew for Mariota or Winston Says:

    They should sit Mariota. No need to play him now.

  145. Java Says:

    Winston faces the best defense he will see all year and has his worst game? Looks like a Lovie Smith QB to me.

  146. Loggedontosay Says:

    HATERS SAY WHAT? I understand how bad the pain is. Nothing eats away at you like burnt desire. You look to arrange words in away that will extinguish the burning pain. Perhaps a pacifier will do? Maybe! The truth: Jameis Winston is undefeated. I will late him.

  147. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Smooth and refined is exactly what this team needs for a change. I vote Mariota.

  148. Mike J Says:

    StPeteBucsFan,FSU has commitments from 3 four-star QB’s for 2015, & one five-star for 2016.

  149. Mike J Says:

    cmurda.I have never sampled Crown; a tad pricey for my taste. Sipping, I am likely to get some Evan Wms. or Paul Masson VSOP;value boozes.

  150. iamkingsu Says:

    Wait one got damn minute any of you idiots that said that Freeman had no one to throw to in college just don’t watch football. I mean he was only throwing it to Jordy Nelson and he would dump it off to little Brandon Banks who would take it 80 yards and that’s just off the top of my head smdh

  151. iamkingsu Says:

    Marriota is running the damn spread Lmao. Again those windows are not going to be as open in the NFL you idiots. Just show me one throw where you was like wow what a throw. The running qb trend vanished in a hurry in the NFL but you’ll eyes haven’t caught up to that yet.

  152. iamkingsu Says:

    Winston has already mastered the back shoulder throw. How old is he again lolol?? He will get paid to see d lineman dropping, safeties playing robber or linebackers buzzing the flats next year in the NFL. You can teach that with film. But you can’t teach his ball placement.

  153. Skyline Crew for Mariota or Winston Says:

    Iamking, he had such good ball placement that he threw it to the other team 4 times?

  154. Shane Marco Says:

    Winston has been too carless with the ball all year…as far as him learning not to throw pics picks once he’s in the nfl….sure….they can teach anyone to be a great qb in the nfl, thats why every team has a qb that plays like Peyton, all you have to do is watch film. I won’t evwn respond to the idiots who have nothing to say but he’s undefeated….you’re not smart enough to argue with siminoles fan.

  155. Kalind Says:

    I’m tickled that people want Mariotta instead of Winston. All they look at are plays and stats. But they ignore stats and their own eyes when looking at Winston. Winston has a better stat than Mariotta. Wins. and he’s played in more games the last 2 years and won more, against better teams.

    People compare him to Russell Wilson? He’s a CLONE of RG3. A clone.

  156. bucrightoff Says:

    For a while I thought Jameis was Vince Young 2.0. The more I watch him, the more I see Freeman 2.0. Avoid this loser like the plague. Mariota is the only QB worth drafting in the first 15 picks.

  157. 87ForJameisOrMariota Says:

    Joe I think you picked the wrong team to end FSU’s streak. I think that team is going to be the Yellow Jackets.

  158. Luther Says:

    I wish people would stop it with the “He just wins garbage”. All Tebow did was win and I certainly don’t want him. “Wins” in college doesn’t always translate to NFL QB. I have no doubt that Winston is certainly an NFL ready QB but for me, I would take Mariota over him in a second. More dynamic and less of a worry for my team. If Mariota isn’t available then you pretty much have no choice.