Doesn’t Matter Who Is Quarterback

November 25th, 2014

josh mccown and mike glennon

It just hurts Joe’s head when he hears Lovie Smith talk about being in a playoff race. With a two-win team that can’t win a game at home? C’mon.

Even if the Bucs were in a playoff hunt, the Bucs offense is in dire need of help. Andrew Astleford of Fox Sports Florida believes it doesn’t make a difference who is the quarterback so long as the run game is swimming up stream.

With no legitimate rushing threat behind them, both are vulnerable to be leveled by frothing defenses, both have shown that they can’t deliver wins with their arms alone, both need help. And that assistance was nowhere to be found on a dark-and-damp Sunday afternoon at Soldier Field.

Hello, five sacks on McCown and a 21-13 loss to a beatable Chicago Bears bunch. Hello, a 2-9 record.

Look, the Bucs’ running game remains anemic. Sunday, they relied on Doug Martin too often. The former Pro Bowl player continued his stunning decline in earning 27 yards on 11 carries. For whatever reason, Charles Sims and Bobby Rainey were used less, with Sims totaling 22 yards on six carries and Rainey 3 yards on one.

Astleford went on to write about two things: Move on from Doug Martin, and the second, which Joe is on board with, was what the hell has happened to Bobby Rainey? He is the best rushing weapon and yet he has been parked in the Bucs’ garage by Lovie Smith for reasons unknown.

Lovie claimed yesterday he is not about to give up on the season, and this season is not about auditions for next year (i.e. the man Lovie himself dubbed the quarterback of the future, Glennon) but winning now.

Well, if that is the case, it is pretty clear Charles Sims does not give the Bucs the best chance to win now. Currently, he is all sorts of mediocre. Rainey gives the team the best chance to win, but guess who is starting games?

Hint: It is not Rainey.

Astleford also notes falling on the excuse that Rainey suffers from dropsies doesn’t hold water. He hasn’t fumbled since the debacle in Atlanta in Week 3.

Of course, let’s not forget who signed Rainey and who drafted Sims.

21 Responses to “Doesn’t Matter Who Is Quarterback”

  1. RastaMon Says:

    However it does matter….who the Head Coach is…..
    Lovie is as Lovie does….

  2. SteveK Says:

    Glennon should start, as he is 10 years younger, is on a cheaper contract, and while only in his 2nd year has the chance to improve.

    Lovie starting McCown is pointless.

    Mike Glennon is the best QB on the roster. Not playing him is a mistake.

    Lovie, you should be on blast by the media for your schenangans. I sure as heck know that Greg Schiano wasn’t given half the rope Lovie has been granted. Additionally, Schiano had to overcome MANY more obstacles in his last year with the Bucs.

    Lovie told us we were “retooling” our O-Line, and $50 million later we are WORSE.

    ACCOUNTABILITY? Where is it, Lovie? At least Schiano took phone calls from fans on the radio show. All you do is say, “It’s as simple as that”, and don’t take any calls. Please answer for your failures.

    -Buc Fans Everywhere

  3. DB55 Says:

    Last line says it all. I got three words for you to pray about Lovie: wrath, envy and pride.

  4. SteveK Says:


    Do you all think Schiano would have the Bucs better than 2-9 right now?

    I think they would be winning the division.

    “It’s as simple as that.”

  5. biff barker Says:

    Equally as befuddling as Rainey not getting carries (soo much material here) is the refusal to give Mike James some reps.

    Moo moo bellcow.

    Sims and Martin aren’t the answer.

    But hey, Lovie says we’re all about pounding the rock!

    This isn’t Tedfords offense and Arroyo has had a short leash. Wonder who the culprit is?

  6. jo_mama Says:

    Aqib Talib
    Lagarrett Blount
    Jonathon Casisias
    Tim Wright

    How many more players are we going to send to the Pats only to have them turn into stars?

    What Pictures does Bill Belicheck have on the Glazers?

  7. RastaMon Says:

    SteveK Says:
    November 25th, 2014 at 2:15 pm

    Do you all think Schiano would have the Bucs better than 2-9 right now?

    I think they would be winning the division.

    “It’s as simple as that.”

    lay the blame where it falls….the local media drove Schiano out of town…and THE LOCAL media has been crickets with “Lovie is as Lovie does”

  8. bucsfaninchina Says:

    I dont agree with the take here at all. For one, the running back corps, though not outting up the numbers are more than competent. They have each (sans previously injured rookie running back Sims) had massive games in the past. Secondly, it is one thing to have a running back that can be the core of an offense and single handedly win games for club, but it is another to blame a losing record on a unit that now has a lot less emphasis on it than any other time in NFL history.

    It is beating a dead horse, but without an offensive line there is no run game. With no o line, a quarterback becomes gunshy after grtting knocked around an entire game. Its really that simple- fix the on line, and the Bucs offense would look a lot different.

  9. SteveK Says:


    Exactly. I am all for Schiano being given the boot, but where is the diplomacy in the LOCAL media?

    They give Lovie a pass because they can hang their hats on a Dungy like turnaround. Newsflash: that was 10+ years ago, and aint happening again.

    Where is the accountability?

    Why does Schiano get hated on for every little thing he does, and Lovie comes in and can’t even achieve the 4-12 mark that his predecessor established with many more obstacles.

    I am just ticked off to hear the media give Lovie a break.

    BS, start Glennon because he has a CHANCE to be something better. McCown is who he is, nothing changing there.

    Glennon takes better care of the ball too, we need that!

  10. bucsfaninchina Says:

    I call bullsh*t on anyone saying this team is better off with Schiano. NOBODY was in support of that clown last year, including damn near everybody that comes to this site.

  11. Bill T Says:

    We have had 11 games to see Lovie is NOT a good coach. He has no clue what he is doing with his personnel. You play McCown instead of Glennon because he gives you the best chance to win, but Martin and not Rainey (as Joe infers).

    He is TERRIBLE with clock management, play calling in critical moments and communication. “Only 2 games out” isn’t fooling his own players who know the team is terrible

  12. RastaMon Says:

    “Lovie is as Lovie does “

  13. Espo Says:

    I thought this article was going to explain how neither qb is qualified to play in the NFL.

  14. RCH Says:

    Joe the Bucs are in the middle of a playoff run just because you determined the season was over in week 3 doesn’t mean the organization has.

  15. dmatt Says:

    Nine years n Chicago n the following are all Lovie type QBs on the Bears opening day roster between 2004-2012’…J.Blake, KOrton, RGrossman, BGriese, KKittner, CKrenzel, NEnderie, CHanie, JCutler, TCollins, JMcCown, JCampbell, n who… BBasanez? Lovie wouldn’t know how to light up a good “WINSTON” if it was a cigarette.

  16. tgregs Says:

    Playoff run..that’s hilarious

  17. Brent Says:

    Rainey is good. Glennon is decent. James is good bu. fix I-line our offense will be decent not good. People need to quit freaking. It’s getting better not worse and in pretty confident were going to pick o-line guys in draft. Looks like Lovie’s d can be solid. Quit overreacting. Time for that was Atlanta and Baltimore games. Last 4-5 games we’ve had a shot to win or won!! Lovie has made some questionable decisions but the sky isn’t falling..

  18. DB55 Says:

    It fell weeks ago.

  19. Pickgrin Says:

    I guess now every article gets turned into a “Lovie sucks – Fire Lovie” thread for a # of regular JBF commentors. Gets old frankly. Give it up – he’s not going anywhere and will ultimately get this team turned around and back to contending.

    And for those that haven’t figured it out – our Offensive line is worse than not good when it comes to run blocking. Bucs have a good stable of backs. Any one of the 4 would likely do well behind a solid OLine.

  20. Walter White Says:

    Yeah, he’ll get this team “turned around” alright. Wait until next year or the next when we actually are in a legitimate playoff race and have a record above .500 and his BUFFOONISH coaching costs us games then!

    It is what it is, simple as that?? Yes! It is! Don’t think this guy is some secret savant because he’s proven time and time again he’s NOOOT. That’s like saying you think Jay cutler can still turn into a consistent qb….

  21. sumosam Says:

    I like the way our defense is shaping up but offense is another story. Play Glennon, play Rainey, we should have kept most of our offensive line in the off season. I will also go on a limb here and say: IF WE WOULD HAVE KEPT SHIANO WE WOULD BE GOING TO THE PLAYOFFS IN THIS SAD DIVISION THIS YEAR! THINK ABOUT THAT FOR AWHILE, VERY SAD THOUGHT!