“Not Doing The Job”

October 5th, 2014

Right tackle Demar Dotson had strong words for his offensive teammates

Alterraun Verner was not the only man in the Bucs locker room who issued blame for the frustrating loss in New Orleans. Bucs right tackle Demar Dotson was honest and up front when he stated the Bucs’ offense, which shined for three quarters, didn’t get the job done when the team needed it most.

Dotson made no excuses and pulled no punches.

“We obviously did some stuff that hurt us,” Dotson told Joe, referring to the drive from hell that ended in a safety and, for all intents and purposes, turned the game around in the fourth quarter.

“A lot of penalties. That pulled us back. It hurt at the end of the day but they are a lot of growing pains.

“At the end of the day, it wasn’t good enough. We had a chance to win this football game and we did some stuff that hurt us, that allowed Drew Brees to get back on the football field and have a chance and go down and win it and tie it up. That is on us.

“I don’t know if it was a lack of communication, it was just us not getting the job done. It wasn’t so much lack of communication as it was guys not doing their job.”

What is painful about this loss is, if Joe said the Bucs would be in a shootout with Drew Brees and in a position to win it, folks would have thought Joe hit Bourbon Street way too early this morning.

But that is exactly what happened. The Bucs and Mike Glennon were winning a shootout with Brees and the Saints. And if not for the drive from hell, likely would have won.

What a boot to the balls!

94 Responses to ““Not Doing The Job””

  1. Robert7 Says:

    Can we get lovie in an elevator with Ray rice?

  2. Architek Says:

    He’s quickly becoming my favorite Buc. Give Packers a pick to take EDS back…

  3. RastaMon Says:

    The OL CAN NOT run block……nothing will get any better unless they do…..

  4. Wesley Says:

    penalties, is why they lost this game!

  5. Andrew 1 Says:

    Yea that drive from hell really screwed us too. It just seemed like miscommunication with, I think it was Herron, going in motion right as the ball was being snapped, causing that fumble. Just things like that need to be ironed out still.

  6. Ray Rice Says:


    I think Arroyo needs to get his whole O-Line in an elevator and wake them up asap.

  7. Andrew 1 Says:

    @ Wesley

    Penalties also played a big part of it too.

  8. BucFan20 Says:

    31 points should be enough to beat any team. This blame game is BS. It goes to one place. Defense!

  9. Waterboy Says:

    @BucFan20 I totally agree! The defense is getting better but they’re still not very good.

  10. billy buckaroo Says:

    Saints had over 500 yards on offense
    Nuff Said

  11. MadMax ™ Says:

    Learn from it and build on it…..Hey Lovie name MG8 the starter already…thats a foundation to start building on!

  12. DB55 Says:

    Fourth-quarter meltdown!!!! RANT

    how do you give up 11 point lead and give up an 18 yard rushing td in over time to lose the game? where you at McCoy I thought you were the best?

    Somebody go to the den and tell mccoy and johnson to stop playing with themselves and maybe try to help glennon out a little bit. 4 tackles 0 sacks. Oh you have to do better than that. Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

    David is the best player on this defense, PERIOD!!!! 14 tackles again. Beast man playmaker. How many tfl did he have, creating havoc and making plays. Mccoy missing tackles and letting Pierre run over the entire defense. JFC

    Get it together defense!! McDonald Barron banks david and gholston (im still on the tense with Verner) playing hard can they get some help? Lovie where are your boys at? Did johnson bowers or fletcher play today? I seen my favorite young player lasagna out there killing it but where’s the 8 million dollar DE at?

    Final point, coach mccown is doing a bang up job. Love the hair, keep up the great work. You seem to excel at what you are currently doing.

  13. FanOfBucs Says:

    Too many penalties.

  14. Andrew 1 Says:

    Clearly you guys are missing it

    “Yes there is. The defense was utterly exhausted. They were on the field for most of the game especially in the beginning, then they get a stop on Brees to end the game and have to march right back out there once overtime began. You could see they were exhausted on the last play of the game, nobody had enough energy to even muster up a tackle. I attribute that to not being able to run the ball, thus lengthening the game. But the reason for this loss was an exhausted defense.”

  15. buc4lyfe Says:

    The loss was a team loss, there were errors at every position. No one was to blame for Glennon throwing an interception in buc territory, run defense stuffed a tough Steelers run game but plays a weak new Orleans team and punked out. The defense was the worse but they did put up 7 of the points people are giving to Glennon. It’s a team sport and were not good enough on defense to make up for bad offense and vice versa. Were just not a good team. they played a perfect game against the Steelers and still almost lost. Just accept that this team isn’t ready this year no matter who is running the ball or behind center it won’t make enough of a difference

    They are getting better every week which started with Glennon taking over but win or lose getting berthing is about all we can ask at this point, that was a meltdown today

  16. j moné Says:

    My stomach hurts i want our bye week

  17. Pelbuc Says:

    This team does not know how to win. Period. Oline shameful when the game was on the line. Defense couldn’t even get off the field in OT. More and more drops by WRs and no running game. I wish all the players and coaches would just shut up and play hard and smart on Sundays. All we fans hear are “miscommunication issues”. Time to invent new excuses.

  18. Brandon Says:

    You can’t blame jack on the Oline. This pass blocking unit is the best it’s been in years. No, they don’t run block very well, but considering the weak defense, this team will HAVE to be able to throw the football.

  19. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Says:

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  20. Buc1987 Says:

    I THINK it’s going to come to a head with this team. I think they are REALLY going to get tired of this crap. I say they STILL turn it around. Not playoffs turn it around. Just that good things are going to turn for us . I can feel it.

  21. billy buckaroo Says:

    I saw Mankins pull out and go to the other side and open a big hole for a running back and I said to myself

    That wasn’t the normal regular running play they always run for a two yard gain.

  22. dbbcpa Says:

    Did anyone else see the defender push off our receiver on the interception? My wife even saw it. He pushed off, the receiver fell past the play and the guy caught the ball. It wasn’t a horrible throw, it would have been a jump ball if the defender did not push off. Clearly the defense was to blame for this loss.

  23. Lou. Says:

    @Brandon —

    You are correct, sir. The pass blocking is much improved. The run, not so much.

    Observations about how pond the defense was on the field are misplaced. The d was responsible for getting a stop. The “bend but not break” approach left players out there for extra plays.

    Kinda validates Joe Madden and his “take early in the count” theory. The other side can get tuckered out at the end.

  24. dbbcpa Says:

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  25. Buc1987 Says:

    This site sometimes has a helluva time with IE. I switched to firefox awhile back and smooth sailing as long as you go to add-ons and turn that thing on that Joe hates when I type it so I’ll just call it a thing.

  26. Bobby Says:

    I would hardly call McCoy out for his play today. He caused two turnovers that both led to TD’s. Why is it that McCoy gets the blame if he’s not in on every tackle?? Cheesh….

  27. DB55 Says:

    Because he the so-called leader of the defense.

  28. DB55 Says:

    Because he had a whopping 4 tackles

  29. DB55 Says:

    Because he had ZERO sacks

    Because he let Drew Bree’s drive 80 yards in OT for a td. Even lovely said it “hold them to a FG can’t let them get a TD”

    This dude want to be paid as a top DT.

  30. Andrew 1 Says:

    LMAO, no way is McCoy the problem. He was really the only one getting consistent pressure AND he also saw a lot of double teams. He is head and shoulders above the rest of our D linemen.

  31. Buc1987 Says:

    “Mike Glennon is the future” – Lovie Smith, May 9, 2014

    Lovie said it in May…and no one wanted to believe him. Sports talk radio guys shook their heads and pouted over it.

    I believed him. Some of you didn’t want to believe him or refused to believe him.
    Not me.

    I wonder how many people believe what Lovie said now….

    Thank you Greg Schiano for Mike Glennon.

  32. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    McCoy is still playing with an injury……I think we badly miss Mason Foster….and I blame this loss on penalties & the absense of a running game….especially no gains on 1st & 10….
    Considering our lack of a running game,drops, penalties, I think Glennon did well

  33. DB55 Says:

    The problem, idk, but he damn sure isn’t playing like the superstar you want to make him out to be. Gholston and McDonald playing better than MJ n mccoy.

  34. Andrew 1 Says:

    @ Tampabaybucfan

    I agree, we really miss Foster. It got so bad with Fletcher, that they took him out in Nickel situations and replaced him with Lansanah in the second half. We need Foster back ASAP.

  35. Buc1987 Says:

    TBBF…Glennon has played head and shoulders above what any of the idiots were saying about him during the off season.

    Yes I did call you all idiots and you know who you are. No need to name names.

  36. DB55 Says:

    I blame this loss on giving up 17 points in the 4th qrt including ot. 80 yard drive in OT capped off be an 18 yard run for TD.

  37. Buc1987 Says:

    Lots of blame to go around…but this team is GOING to get better..and I’m not talking about next season either.

  38. Trubucfan22 Says:

    Dotson is right. We had a lead, and we had the ball and the offense couldn’t do a damn thing with it.

    You know Brees is going to make a come back. He’s a hall of fame QB. Our defense stand a chance. Our offense giving away the sack was condemning. It wiped out the lead we had and gave the saints all the momentum. Blame the defense all you want but the offense is what gave the game away.

  39. Andrew 1 Says:

    @ DB55

    Congrats, you can explain how the game unfolded. Who cares about the how’s or why’s anyway.

  40. Mike10 Says:

    Drives me crazy to hear “growing pains” from an OL

    WE WENT THROUGH THE ENTIRE offseason barking on this site; we all knew this offensive line was no where near a finished product. But L+L assured us “it was early” or “they would figure it out.” So we go through OTA’s and 3 preseason games and wait until 2 weeks before the season starts to GET ANOTHER (Veteran) LINEMAN!…

    Look… I got no confidence it the personnel steering this ship moving forward.

  41. Trubucfan22 Says:

    Let’s not forget that the defense also contributed to the offense today. Without that int for the td, we would have lost in regulation.

  42. Mike J Says:

    My Latin cliches meld, but once again, we see ex post facto mea culpa’s out of a Bucs’ team–the 100th time?? Or is that conservative???

  43. Trubucfan22 Says:

    It was kinda funny to see Brees making those pee wee football bone head interceptions today. I guess even hall of fame qbs will at least try to make something out of nothing….

  44. DB55 Says:

    Buc you right. I get carried away. But wtf. All that crap these “idiots” talked all offseason and when “The Future” puts them in a position to win they lose the game anyway. “The Future” didn’t even get a chance in OT, thanks defense, thanks lovely, thanks frazier.

  45. Buc1987 Says:

    Well Mike then in your in for a long ride then. I have confidence in them again. It’s still early in the Lovie Smith era and things won’t get changed overnight.

    This team WILL get better this season. I’d bet my house on it right now.

  46. iamkingsu Says:

    Cover 3 is supposed to protect the middle of the field so why does opposing receivers keep…..nevamind. @Joe tell lovie mix in am occasional cover 1. That extra half second for the qb to decipher will give the d line enough time to get home

  47. Patrick in VA Says:

    This year is going to be a tough one to sit through at times. It’s going to hurt watching the team getting better than the week before but still losing. I’m excited to see them improving though. I was excited to see LVD looking comfortable in this defense. I liked seeing Glennon playing at the level he was. Glad to see vjax catch a pass and actually get some yac. Martin did some great pass blocking and broke off a couple good runs.

    This is lovie’s first year. We’re watching the learning curve and the roster development curve. I’m willing to be patient and I think others should as well because we’re seeing the improvements that show that we’re getting there.

  48. Andrew 1 Says:

    Like Trubucfan22, you can also thank them for 7 offensive points.

  49. Buc1987 Says:


    And you people are upset? Yeah they lost. Most of you didn’t even think they had prayer coming into this game. QUIT whining like I always do.

  50. Buc1987 Says:

    Do you need a hug?

  51. iamkingsu Says:

    The Lasanah for Fletcher in nickel is pure genius tho. Just need to play a little more cover 1 tho and we’ll be fine

  52. Buc1987 Says:

    Last season at N.O. the Bucs lost 41-0. Would that make you happier? Do you want to go back to that? Yes they lost…BUT.

  53. BucFan20 Says:

    And you can thank them for giving up how many? Thanks for the seven. Don’t even try the points off turn over. That’s not a sure thing unless Glennon and the offense scores. Nice try .

  54. oldfart44 Says:

    Look at the box score. Big difference in time of possession and number of plays run.

    Secondly, it has to hurt that Tedford is unavailable. Arroyo is a novice at this OC position.

    Glennon looked pretty good for two games in a row.

  55. Andrew 1 Says:


    Against Drew Brees and the saints? Yea, take away that TD there is no overtime, so yes thank you defense. Im more shocked that our offense put up 24 points then how much our defense gave up to Drew Brees. Like Buc1987 said, it’s a loss but with much improvement we’ve shown since Atlanta it doesnt feel to bad.

  56. DB55 Says:

    You know what you are right. This was a great moral victory another that we can add to the last 16 moral victories in the last 21 games. The team will get better eventually. We will get some wins this year in the meantime stay tuned because we’re improving.

    17 points in 17 minutes. #thankslovie

  57. DB55 Says:

    I’ve never been around a group that takes losing as well as you guys. 5 wins in two years and you cool. I think we got like 20 wins in 4 years.

    So holding lovely accountable for defense is frowned upon? My bad.

    We should just go play in Canada. We might win a few games in the CFL.

  58. Andrew 1 Says:

    @ DB55

    Comon dude, nobody like losing. The key is not to overreact. You should try it sometime.

  59. doc Says:

    Team need a running back that will hit the hole hard.

  60. DB55 Says:

    Neither have the fortitude nor intillect to not overreact. I’m extreme at both sides of the spectrum. I’ll be your biggest fan (glennon david Vjax) or your hardest critic (mccoy lovely frazier)

    No middle ground with me brother. Sorry!!!!

  61. Tamparob Says:

    And how is Koenen still employed? I am 46 and not an athlete but can kick a ball 37 yards. He hurt the team badly today.

  62. Architek Says:

    I do agree with the losing and the overall losing culture of the franchise but you have to just ride it out and keep things in perspective.

    You have to figure that all of the bad drafting and the unfortunate FA whiffs and lack of front office stability catches up with you eventually.

    Once we weed out more bad apples and get better depth and improve the top of the roster we will be back in a predictable state.

    Dude no one hates losing more than I but losing is like a cancer that has to be identified and rooted out. Some players on this roster are not winners – hello the weekly high penalized and half effort players.

    I just joined the MGM this afternoon and I think the more confidence and control Glennon gets and knows it’s clearly his team – he will be able to have more say in who’s on the field on offense and not! The drops are intolerable and shameful.

    Just chill man and let it be what it is.

  63. Architek Says:

    I appreciate your passion as a fan though because that’s how I was over a decade ago.

    I’ve gotten put out of sports bars for pulling for my Bucs and standing on tables – other passionate fans loved it but it’s all seasons bro.

    We will cycle back to respectability – with or without Lovie

  64. Chocolatecvb Says:

    Andrew 1 made a good point earlier. Dane Fletcher has been playing terribly as a Mike linebacker. I cringed every time I saw them put him back in the game. I’m all for Lansanah playing Mike until Foster gets back…and then they may wanna look at moving Foster to Sam.

    Am I crazy for thinking Major Wright is a better free safety than Goldson right now?

    Missed tackles killed us in the 4th quarter.

  65. DB55 Says:


    This wouldn’t fly in NYC. Being a ny transplant I simply don’t understand the calm headedness. Dude, after 2 losses Giants fans wanted Eli n coughlin fired. Yes 2x SB MVP Eli manning wasn’t getting it done so off with his head. Look at them now on a three game win streak. Same with the jets, geno can’t win – we want Vick. Ryan won’t play Vick? Then it’s ryans last year of he doesn’t get to playoffs. Right or wrong fans expect to win. NYers are just very loud and obnoxious about it. Tomorrow Lovely and some of the media will blow a steady stream of smoke up our azzes and we’ll be ready for another loss and another and another. Pucking sucks, fb my fav sport. Looks like I’m going to start checking out the Lightning. Unreal man. Up by 11 in the fourth. Smh

  66. Architek Says:

    I stated that before the game about Fletcher but one brilliant fan on this site swore I was delusional, crow is the best dish when it’s served after a loss.

  67. DB55 Says:


    Am I crazy for thinking Major Wright is a better free safety than Goldson right now?

    Not really

  68. Mumbles Says:

    When DB55 tried to spell in-til-lect, we needed no further explanation. SMDH!

  69. Andrew 1 Says:

    @ Chocolatecvb

    You’re right, I think the Fletcher experiment has run its course. Employing Lansanah full time at mlb until Foster gets back might be the best way to go. I also I know what you mean when you cringed at the sight of Fletcher running back on the field lol.

  70. DB55 Says:

    I’m a dummy mumbles, doesn’t change the fact that we can’t buy a win.

  71. John Sapp Says:

    @Buc1987…………..you are so right. Even I expected a beat down, but to take them to Overtime. December 29th 2013 less than a year ago same place, same Saints we got beat down 42-17. And now this, Overtime. We play them even better at home. I see improvement from the 4-12 squad we were last year. GO BUCS

  72. DB55 Says:

    The 4-1 bucs lead the NFC South

    @joe – that’s what you should be writing about.

  73. Trubucfan22 Says:

    In no way was I expecting to get beat down today. I expected a win. Saints are garbage this year. We should have stomped them if not for a terrible forth quarter by the offense.

  74. buccadawg Says:

    I dont know they are the same ole bucs 2014 verision . But all we can do at this point is support the team and hope we draft smart next year. Cause it s gotta improve , right?

  75. mpmalloy Says:

    Verner, Barron and David and the D-line played a great game.
    The Cannon? Was there ever any doubt?…
    but the o-line was a penalty machine and rcvrs dropped most
    of the passes.
    Hell we could even have survived the drops, it was the penalties
    that gave this game away.

  76. Bobby Says:

    @DB55….You are absolutely right. You should let this loss not only ruin this day for you but really the entire week. I mean it’s football. It’s not like we’re watching a bunch of professional athletes paid to play a game. No, this affects every aspect of our lives. Who cares if I have my health, food to eat, a home to live in and a business….my football team lost and I am ruined. My emotions are out of control and I’m going to start attacking people on this board who think the team may be improving. I have no patience for improvement. We have a totally new coaching staff and a a slew of new players…I was expecting us to go to the Super Bowl. I’ll tell you what, in New York the fans don’t put up with that crap. Of course the fans can’t drink a 32 ounce soda with their meal and they put up with that but hey….sodas don’t lose ball games or go sackless like McCoy!! Thats enough from me. My intillect is tyerd.

  77. mpmalloy Says:


  78. Architek Says:

    Ease up fellas – this isn’t a grammatically correct forum.

  79. Buc1987 Says:

    Architek Says

    “I just joined the MGM this afternoon”

    LOL I saw that coming…

  80. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    We had some good runs…they were just called back on penalties. We would have had nearly the same rushing yards as the Saints if they had not been called back.

    That play with the bad snap…it was the center’s fault. He put the ball in motion before Glennon called for it. It’s not the first time our center screwed the pooch. That’s why Glennon exchanged heated words with him afterward.

    The drops, penalties and the oline cost the game.

    And blaming the refs? That’s bull. Whether they called equally on the Saints doesn’t matter. All the plays against the Bucs were good calls. The Bucs still commited the penalties.

  81. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    I’m not an MGMer, but the kid deserves to start. He has finally earned it.

    Of course…he’s surpassed the rest of the offense.

  82. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Btw…I realize the shorter guys are faster, but it makes no sense going long to them. The defense is ALWAYS too tall for them to catch the ball. That’s why we have tall WRs!

  83. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    The good news is that if the penalties are cleaned up, our offense can probably score 36 points per game. That’ll pay off later.

    And props to Baron.

    Thumbs dpwn to Fletcher.

  84. Buc1987 Says:

    I don’t have many requirements for me to stay cool with this team and Lovie. All I ask is that they come to play. To me the first 3 weeks they never showed up to the games. That’s why I was ranting and raving about Lovie on here the 1st 3 weeks.

    That WON’T happen from me for the rest of the season. This team makes a lot of mistakes, but it has fight in it and that’s all I ask.

    Yep I’m a very easy to please Buc fan. Good things ahead for this team people. I’m waiting, waiting, and I’m going to wait some more. It’s gonna happen. You’ll see!

  85. JT Says:

    This loss hurt no doubt. But this is new team new regime and we were competetive against the aints IN THEIR HOUSE! Its all part of the process. In due time we will learn how to win those games. The last two games the bucs looked like a real team. Havent seen that since the days of gruden. IT TAKES TIME!!! btw who gives a f what a bunch of new yorkers think. Go watch the yankees if you cant handle it 🙂

  86. Buc1987 Says:

    Bonzai…that’s what I think. The mistakes are going to be cut down and the wins will come. I can feel it.

  87. Zam Says:

    It was defeatist and dumb to let the time run off the clock at the end of regulation. The defense needed a rest.

    The refs didn’t even do a booth review on a clear catch-and-fumble they called incomplete. They let Drew Brees get away with intentional grounding, yet called every last penalty they could on the Bucs.

    Overtime rules are so stupid. Look, if the score is tied at the end of regulation just keep playing until somebody scores. Simple. The Bucs lost because McCoy called heads instead of tails and the defense had to go right back out again. How is that even remotely fair?

    Glennon has a QB rating in the 90’s and Brees in the 70’s, and the Bucs still lose. Explain that one to me.

    Bucs trainers must be terrible. Players are getting injured like crazy and have no stamina, and got thoroughly manhandled today.

  88. DB55 Says:


    My whole year! #Forgetaboutit

  89. DB55 Says:

    This is all I’m saying.


  90. BucIt941 Says:

    Talk about not doing your job. Mark Barron trying to “Lay the Wood” instead of using sound tackling technique cost us this game. All he had to do was wrap his arms around Robinson and dragged him to the ground. But nooo The Red Barron just had to go and try and use a Dashon Goldson tackle using nothing more then his shoulder in hopes in knocks the ball carrier off balance. SMH I’ve been a huge Barron fan since his Bama days, but simpley put this is NOT the system for him. He needs to be a SS in a single high set up to maximize his talents. Guess it could be worse. We could be stuck with Morris Claiborne.

  91. Patrick in VA Says:

    @newbucfan – f all you ever get on to do is hate on Glennon. I’m starting to think that you’re the host of an afternoon AM sports radio show

  92. Patrick in VA Says:

    @87 – I agree that there is improvement and as the improvement continues the wins will come in droves. What I’m not looking forward to is the people who will still complain even then because they’ve spent so much time putting out negativity and they’re more interested in being right than they are about winning.

    There are a number of fans that don’t want to see the penalties stop and the receivers start catching the ball because that would mean Glennon actually is a good QB and that would hurt their narrative. They don’t want the defense the get their starters back or get some depth or even have some time to learn where to be and when because that would hurt their narrative that lovie needs to be fired.

    I love in the DC area and the Washington team is a poorly run organization and they have a bad team that doesn’t have much of a shot at getting better soon but their fans are 100 times more loyal and supportive than Buc fans.

  93. Patrick in VA Says:

    Here’s a thought for the folks that aren’t part of the knee jerk “fire everyone for everything” crowd. Lovie’s first year in Chicago was bad, but he did great the following year and was a perennial playoff contender after that with just a defense. Seeing what we saw yesterday, think of the possibilities of what the Bucs could be if we have the players learn the defense and play well in it, get some more players in here better suited for the team’s style of play, and match that up with a more disciplined version of the offense we saw yesterday. A dominant defense and an offense that can put up 25-30 per game. I’ll be happy to give them some time for that

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