McCoy: Guys Were Out Of Place
October 9th, 2014
One could argue the Buccaneers’ pass rush only showed up for one strong half of football this season — the first 30 minutes in Pittsburgh, when Tampa Bay recorded five of its nine sacks this year.
That’s a little harsh, but Gerald McCoy might agree.
Today, McCoy spoke at One Buc Palace about how sacks are all that matter, not pressures.
But McCoy dove deeper and explained how the pass rush is out of sync.
“We gotta get [the quarterback] on the ground. We definitely do. One thing we didn’t do [Sunday] that we did in Pittsburgh, is rush as a unit. A lot of times guys were out of place. I mean, you flush a guy to a certain spot and there’s supposed to be a guy there waiting and, you know, he’s out of place,” McCoy said. “That was on the right side and the left side, both sides of the line all the way across the board. So we just have to rush better as a unit. We are getting better. Pressures and hits on the quarterback is great, but we’ve got to get him on the ground.”
Warren Sapp and Derrick Brooks would probably call this growing pains for players learning a new defensive system. But Joe’s really getting sick of all this pain.
First it was the Jim Bates Experience, which was scrapped midway through 2009. Then it was Raheem Morris’ run defense that literally never showed up to complement the pass rush of Stylez White. And then there was whatever defensive feces Greg Schiano trotted onto the field, featuring nearly the worst pass defense in league history that didn’t need Michael Bennett’s help.
Enough already!
You can enjoy all of McCoy’s media chat today via the 620wdae.com player below.
October 9th, 2014 at 6:32 pm
I don’t know maybe if the team got an actual defensive end to help McCoy who knows what could happen?
October 9th, 2014 at 7:12 pm
It’s crazy how McCoy talks like he does so much. He’s not having as much as an impact as he think he does. Flushing to the left or right? No one is getting enough pressure.
If I remember correctly the game winning rush by the saints came by attacking the big money side of our defensive line. Your not a leader just because you’re calling out everyone else but yourself
October 9th, 2014 at 7:57 pm
I think the Bucs defense will show up and perform better this Sunday. A first home win will be huge in this game. It’s going to be a close game.
October 9th, 2014 at 8:10 pm
BUC4LYFE
He called out himself as well when said both sides.. watch the guy every play he is in He makes a difference even with the double team he gets a push.. he is in backfield every run play as well, but they do run away from him football 101..
“both sides of the line all the way across the board. So we just have to rush better as a unit.”
October 9th, 2014 at 8:16 pm
McCoy is such a JOKE!! He complained all last year how he just wanted to rush after the QB without regard for working as a unit and Greg Schiano told McCoy that he had to trust him and that having everyone just rush the QB was not the right answer. And now McCoy is complaining about not working as a unit. Wow. This dude is one of the biggest hypocrites in the world…
October 9th, 2014 at 8:41 pm
Bash Schiano’s D all you want but they did get to Brees.
October 9th, 2014 at 8:47 pm
Wouldn’t a self proclaimed leader tell the guys they are out of position?
October 9th, 2014 at 9:22 pm
Didn’t schianos d rank #3 against the run? Buc4lyfe, the saints ran the ball right up the gut in the 4th and in OT. That’s why I thought it was cheesy to try to blame banks for the loss. Now I question not only lovely’s ability to evaluate talent but also evaluate film. I also remember a lot of posters complaining about schianos stunts but lovely stunts just as much.
Guys here’s the problem that you will all realize in about 5-8 weeks. Lovely’s legendary defense is actually ron riveras. You can keep waiting for the D to improve but unfortunately I don’t see that happening this year if at all, ever. I say when and if he is able to hire rod marinelli then the D will improve until then, don’t hold your breath.
October 9th, 2014 at 10:07 pm
Joe… Side note how about a piece on mattress mike out in buffalo, 8 catches 142 yards 1td
October 9th, 2014 at 10:14 pm
Losing Bennet still hurts. We could have three more wins! Ha.
Why Dominic, WHY?!?
Sob.
October 9th, 2014 at 10:37 pm
After Schiano inherited and then ran off most of the mal contents is when he no longer had a pass defense. remember?
Tanard “Smoke’m If Ya Got’em” Jackson, Eric “Sauna Boy” Wright, Aqib “Potato Head” Talib, Myron “”I remember about the rabbits” Lewis, and E.J. “Lost in Space” Biggers, with honorable mention to Elbert “King of the Inactive List” Mack.
So in his defense, he practically turned over the entire defensive backfield, after Raheem’s disaster.
This team needs stability. Not all the constant coaching changes, and scheme changes. Look at the teams that have been successful, and you’ll see long stretches of stability. Keep the philosophy the same and you’ll see progress, keep changing like we’ve been doing lately and we’ll just keep rebuilding. In Josh Freeman’s defense, if he had had the luxury of playing with the same offensive scheme for his first 4 years, he might still be playing.
October 9th, 2014 at 10:39 pm
buc4lyfe Says:
October 9th, 2014 at 7:12 pm
It’s crazy how McCoy talks like he does so much. He’s not having as much as an impact as he think he does. Flushing to the left or right? No one is getting enough pressure.
If I remember correctly the game winning rush by the saints came by attacking the big money side of our defensive line. Your not a leader just because you’re calling out everyone else but yourself
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You sir are an IDIOT in every sense!
October 9th, 2014 at 11:12 pm
Buc1987 Says:
October 9th, 2014 at 8:41 pm
Bash Schiano’s D all you want but they did get to Brees.
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LMAO, yeah and lost only every single time.
Your comment is almost as dumb as Joe’s post about Lovie missing practice today….
October 9th, 2014 at 11:14 pm
@buc4lyfe @THETRUTH
I like GMC .I think he’s one of the best DT in the league. I even think his comments were correct. But just becuase he said “both sides of the line” doesn’t mean he was reffering to himself. When you flush a running back out to “the right side” or “the left side” Shouldn’t there be the DE that should’ve stayed home and been waiting on the play to come backside. So unless GMC played some DE in the Saints game. I’d gather that he’s not referring to himself. I think it’s kinda lame to continue to call out your teamates in the media. On the practice field? Fine. In the locker room? Fine. But not in the media and preferrably not were everybody can see you during the game. I don’t care how good you are ,you can’t keep doing that and keep the comradery intact. I hated the way Brady spazzed out after his WR dropped a couple of balls in a game. I don’t remember any player getting in Brady’s face when he threw a 3 int’s in the very next game {I’m referring to an incedent that happened a couple of years ago} The same thing with the incident between Culter and his O lineman. Lame…
October 9th, 2014 at 11:17 pm
@ Architek
And calling someone an “IDIOT!” makes you smart?
I’d like to know what you deemed idiotic about his comment? Just curious…
October 9th, 2014 at 11:40 pm
When you’re losing, everyone sucks to some people. I’m kind of in the same boat.
What’s the point of praising anyone on the defense that surrendered 500+ yards 2 times in the last 3 games? Football is a team sport with room for individual achievement. Well, the Bucs aren’t getting much individual achievement from McCoy or anyone else. And as a team, hell you all see the results?
Our All-Pro, ALL-WORLD DT, who deserves respect still merits zero praise for the crap that’s part of putting on the field. I think there’s a line that gets drawn here – I don’t care the McCoy can blow up a backfield – just like him I care about sacks, turnovers and wins. Aside from Brees stupidity that got a few gift interceptions we didn’t do a thing against the Saints except get run over by the end of the game.
October 10th, 2014 at 12:12 am
McCoy was just stating facts. I’m pretty sure if you ask one of the ends, they’d say the same thing. He was just stating what everyone on the line already knows.
No calling out his teammates or anything TMZ going on here. I don’t see how anyone can read what he said think he trying to talk bad about his teammates.
How ridiculous. And no I’m not even going to debate it with you Buffalo it’s so ludicrous.
October 10th, 2014 at 12:26 am
@1987
Ludicrous? lol ok…
This isn’t the 1st time GMC has softly threw his teammates under the bus in the media. Great players call them selves out “In the media” even when they know they’re doing thier job. There is no “I” in team. I took that as ‘ Hey I’m doing my job,now if I can just get they rest of the guys to do thiers we’d be good.” That’s the point I’m making. I think he needs to stop doing that. Call your teamates out face to face not in the media. That’s how grown men handle thier issues within the family. We keep it “In the Family”. You view his comments as “obvious” I view them as soft gut jabs to his fellow lineman.
October 10th, 2014 at 1:23 am
What in the hell is wrong with some of you guys? Gerald McCoy is widely recognized as the best player on our team, everyone inside of our organization and within the Nfl knows this. Are you really so bitter as to hate on the best of our star players? You act like just because he doesn’t get a sack on every play that he sucks. According to Pro-football focus, he most certainly does not, in fact he consistently grades out as one of the best Defensive tackles in the League. I’d hate to see what our defense would look like without him, and you haters would too, So please, just shut your filthy mouth, or go somewhere else.
October 10th, 2014 at 7:28 am
I’ll keep saying it, GMC needs a 3rd down rush, this guy disappears on 3rd and long… don’t blame double and triple teams, Sapp found a way on third down and this guy should too. If he needs an example watch Sapp tape or currently Marcell Dareus.
October 10th, 2014 at 8:25 am
McCoy was dominant last Sunday, and he was the only lineman getting anything done (like usual). PFF currently has him as the best DT in the league by far, but our pass rush is still lacking. He has every right to be pissed off at the rest of the team.
But this isn’t throwing them under the bus, this is just him saying the defense needs to do their job. That’s what leaders do, they point out mistakes, and encourage those who are struggling to do better.
October 10th, 2014 at 8:27 am
And people saying he’s not that good are hilarious. The man is constantly harassing QBs and forcing them to make bad plays. You want to see how bad our defense is without him? Watch the tape of the Falcons game where he was sidelined with injury.
October 10th, 2014 at 9:08 am
If he’s that great, where are the sacks? Seriously, I think the crazy adulation some of you have is overstated. Where are the sacks if he’s that good?
He’s a great player, but if he were the best he’d get sacks, period. JJ Watt is a one man wrecking crew in Texas. McCoy isn’t having his kind of impact. I’m not diminishing him, just stating that if he were as dominant as many believe he’d be piling up the numbers to back it. Tackles for loss are terrific, but sacks and forced turnovers define greatness in that position. Getting to the QB in crucial situations as well. I don’t remember seeing him get a 3rd down sack to end a drive yet this season.
Right now, he’s got a broken wrist so that may still be affecting him. But lets not get thrown into hyperbole about how awesome the guy is at this point in time. He is not the Michael Jordan of the NFL. He is not redefining what it means to be a DT in the NFL.
October 10th, 2014 at 9:10 am
And for those that say the defense is rotten without him – I agree. But they were pretty rotten with him on the field against the Steelers and Saints.
October 10th, 2014 at 9:51 am
GMC,
If you or your publicist reads this please know that I and a few others are grateful for your contributions to this franchise.
We appreciate your class, professionalism, charity, and most of all your dominance.
I do realize you and LVD are alone in your level of play but don’t give up on us – hopefully L&L will get you more bonified help.
October 10th, 2014 at 10:29 am
No one was more in your face than Warren sapp and he was an obvious leader AFTER hardy nickerson retired but you never heard him or Derrick Brooks call out anyone publicly so I’m speaking from the viewpoint this isn’t his first time doing it and neither was the Atlanta game. Lead by example and you can’t be the best DT in the game and get exposed as a unit on the defensive line. Great at getting off the ball but his problem is his hips, that’s why he leaves so many sacks on the field, he’s still grabbing at people. Getting off the ball is the only elite aspect of his game. No one can be considered Ellie on the worst defensive unit in football
October 10th, 2014 at 12:03 pm
Whoa, if everyone would play as hard and as smart as McCoy, we wouldn’t be having any troubles.
If players perceive McCoy is calling them out for better play in public, then so be it. He is a defensive team captain and leader. If they don’t like how he is leading them, they can vote for someone else to represent them next year.
I would love to play money chess against some of you pinheads. You guys just move pieces and never think about the next move or what might occur next.
Hmmmm, haven’t moved the bishop in a while, let’s move it here and see what happens.
October 10th, 2014 at 1:35 pm
@Louis Fiend Forcing a QB to throw the ball away or into bad coverage can be just as important as a sack. But people have a tendency to only look at sack numbers because it’s flashy.
But if we really want to talk stats, here is the PFF grades of DTs in the league: http://i.imgur.com/J9mY105.png.
Notice how he is almost twice as good at pass rushing as the next best DT? You don’t need to rack up sacks to mess up an opposing offense.
October 10th, 2014 at 4:25 pm
I think it is simple, if McCoy flushes the QB from the pocket right or left, then someone should be there to punish him, or it was a wasted effort on his part.
October 10th, 2014 at 6:31 pm
How many pass knock downs did McCoy have?
Buc fans expect every player to be perfect at all times and be pro bowlers or they suck and want to run them out of town.
McCoy is best player we have, everyone in the league that plays the game and experts that follow say that. But buc fans here who have all coached and been GM’s say get him out he sucks.. that mentality we will be the new Raiders..
If you look clearly one would see many 3-5 step drops to release quickly and brees did great throwing the ball away to prevent 3 or 4 sacks.. They were a better Offense than our Defense that day
October 10th, 2014 at 7:12 pm
Hey Grizim when you misspell every 3rd word in your posts it makes you look “idiotic” and anyrhing say unimportant.