Glennon Has Saved Bucs Offense
October 9th, 2014
Interesting facts out of Baltimore
When Josh McCown was the starting quarterback, the offense was brutal, among the worst in the NFL. Numbers don’t lie.
Whether fans want to rag on the offensive line or Doug Martin, or a little of both, for the paltry rushing attack, McCown also dragged down the offense.
Consider a few facts dug up by Jon Meoli of the Baltimore Sun.
30 – The Buccaneers have the ignominy of ranking 30th in the league in total offense and total defense. The latter is dragged down by the Thursday night dismantling at the hands of the Atlanta Falcons a few weeks ago, but this is a team that’s really struggling on both sides of the ball. The offense has been better under quarterback Mike Glennon, but with a team entering the game ranked this poorly, a Ravens loss would be one of the worst in recent memory.
While Meoli notes the debacle in Atlanta somewhat skewers the numbers for the Bucs’ defense, consider Glennnon has guided the Bucs offense to 350 yards against the Steelers and 314 yards against the Saints. So if the Atlanta debacle weights down the defensive numbers, McCown’s miserable offense weighted down the Bucs offensive numbers.
26:05 – Tampa Bay’s average time of possession is among the league’s worst. A combination of turnover issues (11 in five games) and a struggling running game with Doug Martin and former Raven Bobby Rainey have meant short drives for the Buccaneers.
Given the fact the Bucs no longer have turnover-prone McCown behind center, the minimal time of possession can directly be attributed to the lack of a run game.
Yes, those are miserable numbers, but imagine how terrible they would be without Glennon?
October 9th, 2014 at 2:29 pm
Good point! How many yds of offense did we have in the first two games?
October 9th, 2014 at 2:29 pm
I really hope they beat the Ravens, if for nothing else than to check this scribe’s arrogance.
October 9th, 2014 at 2:30 pm
Imagine Mike Glennon and Chip Kelly.
Do you need a tissue now?
October 9th, 2014 at 2:37 pm
Then again. Thanks Greg Schiano for Mike Glennon.
October 9th, 2014 at 2:40 pm
Not bad for a backup QB with a questionable ceiling, eh Joe? 😉
October 9th, 2014 at 2:42 pm
I can’t believe most of you thought that McCown was the better qb just because he was the starter lol. Even after the interceptions he was throwing you’ll continued to stick to your guns. He threw away the season and put Glennon another 0-3 hole that he has to dig our team while at the same damn time he’s be evaluated.
October 9th, 2014 at 2:44 pm
@87
I was very much in favor of the Schiano fire. But I have to say, it would have been very interesting to see how Glennon did in an offense built around him by Schiano, nonetheless. FANS, the draft, and trades would have been totally different and in favor of Glennon.
October 9th, 2014 at 2:45 pm
*FA not fans.
Damn auto-correct.
October 9th, 2014 at 2:48 pm
Still rather have Jameis….
October 9th, 2014 at 2:51 pm
Most americans pull for the underdog. That being said I’m american. Mike Glennon is an underdog and my team’s QB. I think he’s about to take off and drag the remaining stragglers (doubters) into the MGM. I think it might happen this Sunday and I can’t wait!
The guy on A.M. radio might stand his ground no matter what, but no one would ever confuse him for a Buc fan to begin with.
October 9th, 2014 at 2:56 pm
Jameis Winston will be available in the 2016 draft if he doesn’t go play baseball. I’m pretty sure he’s going to stay another year at FSU if he doesn’t get kicked out first.
Winston would sell a crap load of jersey’s for this team. I’m big time FSU and I wouldn’t touch Winston with a 20 foot pole right now. He needs to grow up. Makes Manziel look like a choir boy.
October 9th, 2014 at 3:01 pm
1987
We have too many choir boys as it is. Remember who was carrying the rock for us the year we won the SB. Mr. Pittman wouldn’t be allowed to play in the league today. Fans definitely wouldn’t want him on the team either.
October 9th, 2014 at 3:07 pm
@DB55…my opinion really means nothing when it comes to Jameis as I am pretty sure he’s going to stay another year.
@Walk…yeah I hear ya loud and clear. I wanted him gone too, but one has to wonder if we would have went through all the things you mentioned, if we’d even be 1-4 right now. It might be the other way around. Who knows?
October 9th, 2014 at 3:12 pm
@DB55…my choir boy comment = immature and I don’t want it on my team.
Did you see Manziel laughing on the sidelines when the Browns were down 28-3?
That’s what I’m talking about. Winston is a child. Grown men play in the NFL.
October 9th, 2014 at 3:16 pm
Haha @DB55
Michael Pittman makes Ray Rice look like a saint.
October 9th, 2014 at 3:17 pm
Glennon should be the starting QB for the rest of the season, that much is clear. But as far as next season and the seasons after that… I’ll wait till this season is over before forming that kind of an opinion. He is doing a good job so far, and we’ll see how he finish,es, but so far so good. As far as the draft, I would be shocked if Winston did not leave college and become the number 1 overall pick that he undoubtedly will be.
October 9th, 2014 at 3:20 pm
@ Lovie
give the ball to martin
give the ball to martin
3rd and long pass
punt
and next week you can come on the air and say we are getting better.
NEXT
October 9th, 2014 at 3:21 pm
I just saying I’m not totally against having a few bad boys on the team, it is football after all.
October 9th, 2014 at 3:24 pm
Andrew 1…I agree 100% with everything you said about Glennon. Be prepared to be shocked then, when it comes to Winston.
October 9th, 2014 at 3:25 pm
If Lovie was smart he would utilize the play-action since the entire league knows all we do is run on 1st and 2nd.
October 9th, 2014 at 3:26 pm
Both qb’s have been hampered by their support from the offense line and more so by the play calling. The last few weeks have finally shown some improvement in the OL but the play calling is still suspect, not as suspect as the first three games but still leaves much to be desired-especially in the run game.
Glennon has done very well within the limits the coaches have constrained him to but I think they will start giving him some opportunities to make his own adjustments per the game situation and also support him with some better play calling themselves. I look for him to continue to improve whenever they let loose of the reins a little
October 9th, 2014 at 3:30 pm
@ Buc1987
We’ll see. It will definitely be a shock to me lol. I think he’s had about enough of Jimbo and all the college rules. Yea there’s baseball, but I dont think that will be enough to stop him from declaring. We’ll see.
October 9th, 2014 at 3:32 pm
Remember Freeman 2011 smiling and laughing after throwing picks. I wanted to jump through the TV and punch him in the face.
October 9th, 2014 at 3:43 pm
We are the same damn team as year 1 of Schiano. New coach come in don’t know your qb’s strength. Wouldn’t even go 3 wide until 3rd downs the first few games. Then you see Free make a few throws downfield against washington late in the game in a loss then go into the bye week saying you want to try that a little more. Then Free lights up th nfl and we go on a win streak. Same thing with Glennon ATL was our bye week!
October 9th, 2014 at 3:47 pm
WalkdaPlank Says:
If Lovie was smart he would utilize the play-action since the entire league knows all we do is run on 1st and 2nd.
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That’s a very big IF.
I’d use the Dunkaneers too on first since opposing D’s will be run blitzing with a stacked box.
October 9th, 2014 at 4:02 pm
Three things you need:
1) Field vision to spot all receivers
2) Pinpoint accuracy
3) Not staring down his intended target
Then he doesn’t have to be mobile and can still be a franchise QB in my eyes.
He was bad at all of those last year and in college, which is why I’ve never been high on him.
He seems to be better at spotting receivers in this last game. Can he find second third fourth target in better coverage? Hard to say. Last year his field vision was awful.
His accuracy is still suspect. Shaun King was spot on. And that’s mechanics, which he has improved on slightly over his rookie year/college.
Does he stare down receivers? One replay I noticed that, but I haven’t really checked hard.
FWIW Josh Freeman was bad at accuracy and staring down receivers, but made up for it in his good year with mobility and field vision.
Forget McCown.
October 9th, 2014 at 4:05 pm
Buc1987 Says:
October 9th, 2014 at 3:32 pm
Remember Freeman 2011 smiling and laughing after throwing picks. I wanted to jump through the TV and punch him in the face.
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Yes! It was awful. the Bucs were 4-2, off to London to face the Patriots, and Freeman never came back from that horrific trip. Can’t stand he pansy ways, no back bone, not a leader. All hail Schiano for not allowing Dom to pay Freewee $100 million.
October 9th, 2014 at 4:08 pm
What all you fans are forgetting is that Jamie’s Winston is young. Please tell me that any of you fans would have liked to have your entire time in college scrutinized for every decision you made. Please ….. People are so quick to judge. Shit I know I did some questionable things in college and that’s without being one of the most famous college football player in the ncaa. If any of you would of had the popularity and pressure that is placed on this KIDS shoulders you are telling me you wouldn’t make immature mistakes. You guys are hilarious.
October 9th, 2014 at 4:15 pm
Glennon starts too slow and has way too many 3 and outs. Plenty of the blame goes to the man leading the offense. Not to mention 2 drives in two games where the offense went backwards on all 3 plays. We ran Freeman out of town for the same thing. This can’t happen again. If the honeymoons over for Lovie it’s definetly over for Glennon. He needs to win and win now.
October 9th, 2014 at 4:25 pm
Manziel is simply immature; Jameis is simply a moron. You can fix immature, you can’t fix stupid.
October 9th, 2014 at 4:39 pm
“Gooberville Says:
October 9th, 2014 at 4:15 pm
We ran Freeman out of town for the same thing”
Yeah, after five years.
October 9th, 2014 at 4:53 pm
You can look and not like what you see in Glennon, find fault here and there and just enjoy nitpicking wherever you like. That does’nt change the fact that he has brought a positive vibe and energy to the Bucs. That’s what I see through my clear colored glasses.
October 9th, 2014 at 4:55 pm
I moved down here about the same time mark Dominick showed up on the scene and it was much easier to become a rays fan but the bucs. Gotta admire lifelong bucs fans, the optimism is there every off season even though it’s gone by game 6 every year. Glennon is good but I don’t see why he’s been anointed the franchise after a couple games. Of he’s not and you have to draft, that’s more time to wait for a winning team
October 9th, 2014 at 4:57 pm
Jon Meoli will get to write another column next Monday explaining how Mike Glennon was better than he thought. F(B)UCK him! Arrogant bastard!
October 9th, 2014 at 5:28 pm
I’m just tired of having a middling QB. Glennon may improve but he’s never going to be confused w a hall of famer. Jameis has promise. He’s produced on the biggest stage. Remember the last drive of the natl championship?! 45 seconds. 80 yards.
That was all I needed to know. The rest of his shenanigans are (stupid, yes.) just background noise. He’s done nothing to get himself into serious hot water. Especially now that the rape charge was determined to be nothing more than an extortion scheme. So what’s he got? Yelling in the Union? Wow. Condemn him. A rush prank for his fraternity? (Crab legs) come on.
Everyone wants to hang this 20 year old cause he’s being a 20 year old. Good lord.
October 9th, 2014 at 5:30 pm
Surprised no one has compared college Manziel to Jameis. Everyone was high on Manziel except for NFL teams. Why did he drop so far in the draft? Now he is a backup. Don’t be surprised to see Jameis drop in the draft either because of his attitude.
October 9th, 2014 at 5:36 pm
Just read on Espn.com that Glennon thus far ranks 8th in quarterback rating (72.7)
October 9th, 2014 at 5:51 pm
The excuse of him being 20 is garbage. When you’re among an elite group of young men who plan on entering the NFL, you’re held to a different standard, fair or not. So many QBs are able to stay out of trouble and be successful in the NFL, and they all were all 20 years old at one point too. Social media doesn’t help these days, but players still need to realize that poor judgment and decision-making is inexcusable.
October 9th, 2014 at 5:54 pm
I agree. But I’m not gunna hold that against him as far as being a good QB. And he doesn’t have some of the physical problems Manziel has. And…he’s won. A lot more than Manziel
October 9th, 2014 at 6:17 pm
Hey depressed were you ever accused of rape in college. The fact that this girl and her attorney are still coming after him makes me wonder if it’s true. Regardless of whether he did it or not, how stupid can you be to stand up in the student union and yell out that statement. He is even dumber than he sounds when he speaks. I find it hard to believe that a complete moron can succeed as an NFL QB!
October 9th, 2014 at 6:28 pm
Haha I never stole crab legs in college.
October 9th, 2014 at 8:00 pm
If we are in a position to draft the top QB in either of the next 2 seasons,the Glennon experiment is a failure. Not saying we should take the QB. May be a poor QB class and why reach?
October 9th, 2014 at 8:55 pm
Funny how its all the offenses fault with the TOP.
The real,problem with the TOP is the damn defense can’t get off the damn field to save its life.
October 9th, 2014 at 9:03 pm
I’ve always liked Glennon, especially when I first heard of him that day he brought NCST back against a stout FSU defense for a win (yes I am a Seminoles fan). I was like “who is this guy?”. He’s a grinder and I hope he does well. Never thought he’d end up in Tampa though.
October 9th, 2014 at 9:08 pm
chocolatecvb….I’m a Noles fan too and Glennon was pissing me off big time in that game.
October 9th, 2014 at 10:11 pm
If we suck, I don’t want us to draft Jameis Rockhead, the punk can’t stay out of trouble, and those kind of players end up being busts 99% of time, I’d rather us take Mariota, who can stay out of jail, and be a reliable franchise QB
October 10th, 2014 at 7:27 am
I don’t really care about the character of the players I just want to seeing winning on the field. I don’t give a damn what a player does off the field and I don’t think the NFL should be involved in deciding the guilt or innocence of players. If the law doesn’t have them locked let them play. I don’t really care what he did off the field. So I say draft Jameis Winston. I think he has learn his lesson. Hell he had to take a chaperone with him to go buy crab legs. Plus he had to go to Winn Dixie instead of Publix. Tell me that ain’t punishment.
October 10th, 2014 at 7:43 am
Glennon is rising to the occasion. I love the thought of done fans to be 199% connoted on spending a #1 pick on a QB. Talk about being pigeon-holed.
Trench help, edge rush, and secondary play are all for weaker parts of our current team. I am confident in Glennon to continue to improve, while competing every week by taking care of the foot ball. The kid is busting his ass to get better, he has the drive necessary to succeed.