Dolphins At Bucs, Open Thread

August 16th, 2014

tricia cusmano 3Good evening, Bucs fans! Joe is here at the Stadium on Dale Mabry Highway in Tampa where the Bucs host their first preseason game. This time the opponent is the Dolphins.

Some news for you to chew on before kickoff. Patrick Omameh starts at right guard for Jamon Meredith. And the shocker of all shockers, defensive lineman Da’Quan Bowers is inactive. Can you imagine?

Feel free to bang it here early and often on your thoughts about the game. As always, you can share among yourselves any URL that has an illegal video feed. But posting the URL here will get you banned.

Have fun and go Bucs!

282 Responses to “Dolphins At Bucs, Open Thread”

  1. MegaDaveUK Says:

    Anyone know why the game isnt live or on radio broadcast?

  2. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    Adrian slowborn is getting manhandled!!!

  3. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    It is live. Channel 8.

    I think Bowers is in?

  4. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Sorry, not Bowers. Clayborn.

  5. Anzac Buc Says:

    nfl network are not broadcasting this game yet – bullshit

  6. Tom Says:

    I think we should be more concerned about Michael Johnson than clayborn

  7. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Wow. They didn’t run on first down.

    McCown had a nice, fast release.

  8. Broy3434 Says:

    First play shows adjustments. They got the ball out in one minute

  9. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    and they punted the ball in 2 minutes

  10. Joe Says:

    I think we should be more concerned about Michael Johnson than clayborn

    Had binoculars on him for one play thus far. Solo blocker and solo block took him totally out of the play.

  11. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    I saw a stunt, lets see if joe screams about that one

  12. dusthy rhothdes Says:

    McCoy looks solid but…. secondary shaky

  13. Sierra048 Says:

    I live an hour north of Atlanta and I’m getting the game streamed. I love to hear the Bucs’ games being broadcast by Gene Dekerhoff.

  14. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    we have no D-ends 🙁

  15. Joe Says:

    I think we should be more concerned about Michael Johnson than clayborn

    Same here. At least it’s not every play. smh

    Stunts are great to break things up. Not each play

  16. TAC Says:

    Tannehill picking them apart again.

  17. dusthy rhothdes Says:

    especially 3rd and long or plus 7 prolly get some DL games going

  18. Destinjohnny Says:

    Glennon is our best qb but i hope josh proves me wrong

  19. Kevin Says:

    10 or 11 play drive by the average dolphins. Has our first team offense had 11 plays in both games combined yet?

  20. Mach Says:

    Mciwn sucks

  21. gt40bear Says:

    D really not looking that bad. Only one bad play (LJ) and one unlucky play that last drive.

  22. dusthy rhothdes Says:

    does demps not run kicks back because he cant hold onto it?

  23. Buccfan37 Says:

    Am I here or m i m i ami?

  24. Jeagan1999 Says:

    I’ve been watching Michael Johnson all game and I gotta say, I’m less than impressed. Let’s hope Lovie told him to lay off a bit because he does not look explosive at all!

  25. dusthy rhothdes Says:

    McCown will not make 16 games and if they running an all out blitz why not audible a jump ball to 13 or 83

  26. BoondockBuc Says:

    How the o line look first drive? Sorry I’m in Bama not on Tv here.

  27. gt40bear Says:

    Dietrich-Smith underwhelmed on that last series! Got blown up on one play and almost gave up sack on next.

  28. Mach Says:

    Really not impressed with mcown. The line is playing better but mcown looks lost

  29. Mach Says:

    Oniel cousins having a good game so far

  30. Kevin Says:

    Take a guess boondock! I think they got a first down tho. I don’t measure our offense like traditional teams. When it comes to the bucs it’s like “oh wow lookie there they got a first down”. That’s how I measure the bucs.

  31. dusthy rhothdes Says:

    IT might be better to be in bama and not watch this… tough to be a bucs fan

  32. JSmalls Says:

    Micheal Johnson sucking air, hands on hips 8 plays in – Winston with the 1st

  33. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    Joe, what are you most impressed with mcCown, the way he only throws check downs? or the way he panics?

  34. dusthy rhothdes Says:


  35. TheShaz Says:

    End of 1st qtr.

    Does not look pretty unless your a Fins fan.

    No offense.
    Defense getting passed on.

  36. Buccfan37 Says:

    Leave the offensive starters in for 2nd quarter. Miami looks good.

  37. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Michael Johnson fumble recovery!

  38. Tom Says:

    At least Johnson can scoop the football

  39. Stanglassman Says:

    Mac could get NFL MVP this year.

  40. unbelievable Says:

    johnson looking very unimpressive. Clayborn getting double teamed. McCoy looks like an absolute beast.

    Our secondary looks pretty terrible right now.

  41. Mach Says:

    Geez michael jonhson looks gassed already…

  42. Jeagan1999 Says:

    McCoy is a beast…the rest of our D still looks a bit slow and unsure of themselves. Not impressed with Johnson at all…put Golston or means in and let’s see what they do!

  43. Stanglassman Says:

    B. Myers sighting

  44. Jeagan1999 Says:

    Nice! At least Johnson got the fumble!

  45. unbelievable Says:

    and right as i talk sh*t johnson gets a takeaway. That a boy.

  46. Walter Says:

    Let’s get those big bodies in the red zone

  47. dusthy rhothdes Says:

    MAC is crazy good hope he gets help

  48. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Mach Says
    “Really not impressed with mcown. The line is playing better but mcown looks lost”

    I guess we see what we want to see, because he’s looked great to me. No QB is perfect. TOUCHDOWN!

  49. gt40bear Says:

    DAMN GMC! Beat guard then split double team to get that sack! #70 is gonna have nightmares for the phins!

  50. Walter Says:


  51. dusthy rhothdes Says:

    McCown got a lil pepper on that toss

  52. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    We actually gained points on a turnover. Color me impressed!

  53. Stanglassman Says:

    TD! I’ve seen that pass and catch all camp.

  54. BoondockBuc Says:

    Sad but true Kevin. Guess I’m glad I didn’t she’ll out that 20 for preseason games. My hope is still there that we come up with some something good on offense. I hope all this behind the curtain crap pays off game one. How’s the D looking? See we gave up 3. Appreciate the info fellas

  55. gt40bear Says:

    Nice pass!

  56. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    We need to cherish these tds thrown by mcCown!!!!

  57. TheShaz Says:

    Now the 2nd qtr is a whole different story.

    GM is a monster.

    Nice TD throw by Josh.

    I want to see them do again.

  58. Jeagan1999 Says:

    Nice throw by McCown!

  59. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Glennon would never make a throw like that one. Sorry MGM.

  60. Brandon Says:

    20 sacks this season for McCoy if he stays healthy…

    Oniel Cousins has blown guys away on a few runs, offense scores, hell has not frozen over. Can we please be patient before we cut the entire team because we struggled last week?

  61. Bill T Says:

    Offensive line way better today than vs Jax. Not sure if it’s totally our line or Jax D-line way better than Dolphins

  62. Kevin Says:

    Boondock defense gave up an 11 play drive no td though. Gmc is just a beast created a turnover. And our offense scored on a td pass to vj thanks to the turnover by gmc scooped up by Johnson who looks tired and ready for a cheeseburger.

  63. Stanglassman Says:

    Yea Bonzai I thought the same thing. The same people who don’t like McCown still don’t big surprise.

  64. Buccin cane Says:

    finally a BUCS td

  65. Buc the Haters Says:

    That could be the blueprint for our season: strong defense, adequate offense…. At least we got a TD instead of a field goal. Joe, why don’t u ban Buc Realist. He’s one of the worst posters on here. What a lame-o.

  66. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Brandon, you are dreaming, lol.

    He hasn’t even gotten half that yet.

  67. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    McCown is done for the game.

    In comes Glennon. Hope he plays well under pressure more consistently this time.

  68. ZBucs Says:

    Nice job by the first team groups.

  69. Jeagan1999 Says:

    Hate to see Golston hurt…hope he’s ok!

  70. BuccaneerBonzai Says:


    That hospital commercial just gave me a good team slogan.

    “Is it contagious?”

    Could be talking about winning OR MRSA.

  71. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Good pass by Glennon. Still no huddle.

  72. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    its nice to see the best qb on the roster!!!!

  73. Walter Says:

    I hope Glennon kicks ass tonight

  74. ZBucs Says:

    Too funny Bonzai

  75. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Good pass again. See? I’ll give props when it is earned. 🙂

  76. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Speaking of props…Muscle Hamster did decent tonight too.

  77. ZBucs Says:

    Down goes Glennon. Damn it!

  78. dusthy rhothdes Says:

    ronde barber being a true fan on talking about the OL… go ronde

  79. ZBucs Says:

    The Hamsta looked strong!

  80. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    My instinct was to say Glennon’s fault on that sack. To be fair, the line collapsed. Even if he were more mobile, there was nowhere for him to go.

    So I won’t hold that one against him.

  81. Walter Says:

    Give it to ASJ in the seam!

  82. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    interesting that they are leaving out the starting Oline with Glennon

  83. Stanglassman Says:

    The Bucs have the 3rd best back up QB in the NFL!

  84. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Realist, is it? I didn’t realize that.

  85. Gus Says:

    The funny thing about this game is the fact that Miami came out with a gameplan and the bucs didn’t. Terrible.

  86. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    wow, Glennon just gets the ball out so much faster than old man mcCown!!!!

  87. Kevin Says:

    Hell yea mike Evans!!!

  88. Stanglassman Says:

    Evan went up and got that ball. Nice job.

  89. dusthy rhothdes Says:

    FINALLY I THINK… throw it up to #13

  90. Jeagan1999 Says:

    MG8 looking good so far…just gotta get rid of the ball and not take those sacks!

  91. ZBucs Says:

    Boo ya!!

  92. Walter Says:

    BAAAAAM!!!!! That was against Miami’s 1’s too!

  93. Mach Says:

    Glennon looks good. People may disagree but he has looked more in control and more decisive than mcown so far

  94. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Okay…that was mad beautiful by Glennon!

    Very impressed. He made that pass AS he was hit…hard.

    Evans did a good job too.

    Not a TD.

  95. BoondockBuc Says:

    Lmao Kevin. Well at least there is new food for him at stadium.

  96. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    takes sac instead of throwing a pick, then throw TD!!!!!!!!

    MGM still lives!!!!!!

  97. dusthy rhothdes Says:

    ughhh no TD

  98. ZBucs Says:

    Ball came out

  99. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Ball was dropped before he crossed the goal line.

  100. TheShaz Says:

    Mike Evens

    The defender bounced off him.

    Give Glennon props for sticking in the pocket.

  101. Tom Says:

    Evans will learn to switch hands with the ball.

    Other than that… Wow

  102. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:


  103. ZBucs Says:

    No touchdown

  104. dusthy rhothdes Says:

    at least there shows some hope… 13 put the ball in other hand buddy

  105. Buc the Haters Says:

    Even though that’s gonna be a fumble and touchback, Mike Evans is a beast.

  106. ZBucs Says:

    Great play though

  107. Jeagan1999 Says:

    Evans gotta hang on that ball!

  108. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    The_Buc_Realist Says
    “wow, Glennon just gets the ball out so much faster than old man mcCown!!!!”

    Saying it doesn’t make it true. And it is not. They are about the same on some plays, McCown is faster overall.

  109. dusthy rhothdes Says:

    lovie should challenge if he stepped out first

  110. Stanglassman Says:

    Sorry Joe! I meant to say ‘shoot’ he fumbled that ball.

  111. BuccaneerBonzai Says:


    That is one STUPID RULE!

  112. Jeagan1999 Says:

    Kudos to Glennon for hanging in and taking the big hit.

  113. dusthy rhothdes Says:

    pretty cool evans sitting next to fellow aggie j lane

  114. Stanglassman Says:

    Good teaching experience for Evans. Better now than in the regular season.

  115. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    great learning moment for Evans

  116. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    One of the best plays I’ve seen by Glennon…and it doesn’t count. Sigh.

  117. BoondockBuc Says:

    Well $hit

  118. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Clayborn pushing his guy back about 7 yards.

  119. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Banks looking good overall, but the rest of the CBs are sucking.

  120. BoondockBuc Says:

    @realist. What happened with evans?

  121. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Where is everyone? Can’t complain about the starters so they are not here tonight?

  122. BuccaneerBonzai Says:


    He fumbled the ball at the one yard line and it bounced into and out of the end zone. Rules make it a turnover instead of down.

  123. dusthy rhothdes Says:

    nice pass glennon

  124. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Glennon overthrows on the deep ball, as usual. If he would connect on a couple of those I would really be impressed.

  125. Kevin Says:

    Evans fumbled at the goal line after a pass from glennon he caught it ran about ten yards or so fumbled and it went out of bounds in the end zone so touchback Miami ball. Rookie mistake that shouldn’t happen twice. Better now then regular season

  126. dusthy rhothdes Says:

    that was some good touch on long pass why not have herron who prolly faster than murphy run that one

  127. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Oline collapsed again. Holding on defense so we got lucky.

  128. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Backups are in on oline now. Glennon DID hold on a little too long, but not as long as usual.

  129. Kevin Says:

    Put in streeter!!

  130. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    False Start on Meredeth.

  131. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Glennon messed up, didn’t pay attention to the clock and get the ball off before 2 minute warning.

    Maybe it’s just as well, because he makes mistakes when he is rushed.

  132. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    I really, really would like to be wrong about Glennon. I wish he would become a Tom Brady type of QB.

    I just don’t see it thus far.

  133. BoondockBuc Says:

    Your right Kevin better now than when it counts

  134. Jeagan1999 Says:

    Still seems like our Oline is a bit slow footed.

  135. Mach Says:

    I think quinton pointer is playing better than leonard johnson so far.

  136. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Rainey has not looked very good to me. Could be oline fault though.

  137. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    I wish old man mcCown could just be a Glennon type of QB

  138. Mach Says:

    I dont think you are ever going to be happy with glennon bonzai. Bottom line is the kid has more potential and i think the bucs should let glennon start or let him go be a starter elsewhere where i am sure he will do great. I dont get this thing in the nfl where u let rookies sit just play them thats how they learn

  139. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Realist, I wish you would open your eyes. Glennon has been nowhere near as good as McCown. He couldn’t even produce ANY points with the starters.

    You keep making those snide comments that are 100% untrue. It’s like you are a political ad. Lie a lot and hope people will believe you. The only problem is that stats don’t lie.

  140. Rrsrq Says:

    Any DB’s left not on the shelf

  141. Bill T Says:

    Blame Tedford for this Miami score. 3rd & 5 and he calls a straight run so Miami uses a timeout. Can’t do that in the NFL

  142. lurker Says:

    glennon has less potential than any number of qb’s in the draft.

  143. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Mach Says
    “I dont think you are ever going to be happy with glennon bonzai.”

    The only way that would be true is if he fails to produce. Are you, therefore, admitting he is a bust?

    Take a look at my earlier posts. I give props when he earns them. Unlike you and Realist, I credit good play by ANY player. I also credit bad play by ANY player.

    I don’t make things up like Realist does.

  144. gt40bear Says:

    And that drive boys and girls is why Anthony Gaitor will be unemployed soon! Was incredibly awful on that entire series!

  145. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    And, btw, Mach, Glennon isn’t a rookie. He was demoted from the starting role. He played himself out of it.

  146. lurker Says:

    wow, miami qb is playin better than glennon, just like bortles did last week.

  147. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    its not a lie, its what i see! just cause your wrong does not mean everyone else has there eyes close.

    if you think old man mcCown checking down is something great, thats fine for you. The rest of us want too see better football.

  148. Bucs4821 Says:

    Note to WFLA’s production team – I think the down and distance graphic needs to be SMALLER!

  149. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    @Bill T

    Defense should have stopped them. Tedford had nothing to do with it.

    MAN, our players are getting injured left and right out there!

  150. Mach Says:

    All players will make good and bad plays what we look for is consistency. Glenin has shown consistency in protecting the football and his record last year proves his consistency as a quarterback and he will only get better thats why i think he is good

  151. dusthy rhothdes Says:

    Im sorry this looks like ugly dungy ball for next 3 years

  152. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    It’s really funny how people already make up their mind how good or bad a player plays by how they feel about them. Realist isn’t going to be impressed by McCown no matter what he does. If he makes a great throw, there’s going to be an excuse. Every single INT he throws he’s going to be screaming for his boyfriend to replace him. That’s very obvious. Same applies for Clayborn. Realist is far from the only person that does this, but he perhaps may be the worst.

  153. Bill T Says:

    @Buc 3rd & 5 is not a run down, unless it’s trickery like a draw. It’s preseason, go for the 1st….don’t hand Miami the ball

  154. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    Everyone really needs to understand this is just preseason. Neither team is going to give too much away. Neither team is playing all it’s players. Yes you can definitely see areas of concern and areas of strength, but there’s been so many times where teams look terrible in preseason, but have great seasons (and of course vice versa). Take it all with a grain of salt, and stop making ignorant bold predictions.

  155. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    my bold prediction is that there is under 18,000 people in the stadium. it looks like a USF gameday crowd.

  156. dusthy rhothdes Says:

    realist…. glazers cant be excited about that…. also the unis are flipping ugly

  157. Touch_Down_Tampa_Bay Says:

    Pineapple McCown has a chance with this o-line now. Glennon will continue to improve. Go Bucs!

  158. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    I think both QB’s looked decent tonight, but they were both under an awful lot of pressure. I love Glennon as a backup, but like Bonzai, I’ve yet to see anything that leads me to believe he’s ready to be a franchise QB. Maybe he will with time, but just not yet. But anyone who says he is deserving of taking McCown’s job at this point is obviously too biased to argue with. By absolutely ALL accounts I have read at training camp practices, all media and experts say McCown looks much better. Even the Bucs players have been calling McCown a great QB (which I think is a little silly, but it shows they really like what they have seen). If Glennon comes out and leads us to 3 TD’s, then maybe we can talk. But leading us to 1 a game against future security guards isn’t exactly that impressive, and it’s actually pretty much exactly what he did for us all of last year.

  159. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    haven’t heard from bonzai??? i think he went to the store for his Fathead poster of old man mcCown. I told him to wait until after week 8 as more than likely would be half price by then.

  160. Kevin Says:

    I don’t care what anyone says preseason or not blah blah any excuse you can rattle through your brains but this is not a playoff team plain and simple.

  161. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    The_Buc_Realist Says
    “haven’t heard from bonzai???”

    See what I mean about lying? Some of us only speak when we have something to say. Others, like yourself, just like running your mouth.

    And yes, I know you are baiting me. That’s what children do.

    Glennon overthrows again. Josh Freeman was better than Glennon. Thus far.

  162. Hawaiian Buc Says:


    I guess we shouldn’t even watch then, because the football expert known as “Kevin” says we aren’t a playoff team.

  163. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    And, btw…I’m not a McCown fan either. I just happen to KNOW he is better than Glennon so far. Truth is a wonderful thing.

  164. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    Or receiver ran wrong route, but i guess you know the play call and route tree,…. smh

  165. kevin Says:

    Gotta say Glennon looks Nfl ready….still learning but that nervous rookie in the back has been working hard and it shows.I think we have a Qb battle in Tampa whether Lovie says it or not

  166. dusthy rhothdes Says:

    KEVINagain you are right on and i think 7-9 is their ceiling and it sucks cause mccoy is really special

  167. Tackleblockwin Says:

    How much money is this Punter making this year? Terrible…lol.

  168. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    truth is the defense better get alot of turn overs inside the 30, because old man mcCown cannot move the offense any further!!!

  169. Buchead407 Says:

    Glennon blows

  170. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    Kevin is on the mark!

  171. Kevin1 Says:

    Well there is two Kevin’s on here. I’m the one saying not a playoff team yet let’s call me kevin 1. Hawaiian buc I’m not an expert but maybe your margaritas are too strong. Do you think this is a playoff team?

  172. dusthy rhothdes Says:

    Why all these “experts” picking bucs as playoff team? Bucs may pull an 0-fer in preseason

  173. Buchead407 Says:

    Glennon Hasn’t had a good pass all night. What the hell are you watching. Missed 2 open relievers deep

  174. Hawaiian Buc Says:


    Just curious, what’s your problem with McCown? Is it that or are you just that in love with Glennon? What is Glennon doing today that makes you think he should start? Instead of criticizing McCown, answer that question. Don’t you want to see him show some level of consistency? Wouldn’t you like to see us move the ball with him at QB more than once or twice a game?

  175. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Kevin Says
    “I don’t care what anyone says preseason or not blah blah any excuse you can rattle through your brains but this is not a playoff team plain and simple.”

    I guess you missed my post about teams that had winning seasons after losing ALL preseason games this week.

    Keep in mind, they are not showing everything in the playbooks. They are not playing starters full time (and, Kevin, our starters actually played very well). Two of our main CBs are out injured.

    And the most important thing…we saw some improvement on oline play over last week. That’s called development. Are they good yet? No. But week to week improvement is a good thing.

    You need to take a step back and let things develop.

  176. Bill T Says:

    Bucs 2nd & 3rd team defense sucks. Better not get many injuries

  177. Buchead407 Says:

    Josh freeman was way better than Glennon I’d sign him right now

  178. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    And, btw. It’s the backups who are losing this game. The starters were winning it. That is a good thing.

  179. Buccfan37 Says:

    I swear, this Buc pass D could’nt cover grandpa.

  180. lurker Says:

    lovie stated we are not rebuilding, right?

  181. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Injuries, Buccfan37. We’re watching backups. Even when the starters were in, only one of the CBs was a starter.

  182. Buchead407 Says:

    Another back goes down

  183. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Lovie did say we are not rebuilding. That is true.

    He also said that you cannot come out of the gates and be a top team. He said to look for week to week improvement.

    We saw that with the starters tonight.

  184. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Was that Mike James? That will cost him a roster spot if he’s inured.

  185. RastaMon Says:

    1st down by forward fumble….and Mike James is not getting up….GBoyz better be offering free beer and food…in the Ray Jay….if they want butts in the seats..

  186. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    C’mon Glennon rally the troops

  187. Kevin1 Says:

    I don’t care what your post said I’m not blind or dumb or deaf but I know other teams in our division are better. Every year you fill your balloon with air and you get let down. Don’t assume after what we have seen that this team is playoff ready. I mean seriously have you seen any other teams play i.e. The playoff ones? And yes it’s a shame I’m afraid gmc is gonna waste his career in tampa. I’m not even thinking about their preseason record. Oh look James injured AGAIN. But I seen with my 20/20 eyes that the o line did play better but multiple guys getting beat one on one. That doesn’t happen with playoff teams. Just curious I thought we signed a “pass” rusher from Cincinnati? Cause I haven’t seen him anywhere other than a pick up of a ball created by gmc.

  188. ZBucs Says:

    Just awful

  189. Buchead407 Says:

    Can we take the giraffe statue out of the game

  190. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    What exactly is Glennon doing to be the starter? Can we please just put that discussion to bed?

  191. Buchead407 Says:

    To reiterate Glennon blows

  192. Rrsrq Says:

    You would think these guys would be playing to make the team, is depth gonna be an issue

  193. Nybucsfan Says:

    Glennon sucks

  194. Buchead407 Says:

    Let’s see gmc at qb

  195. Buccfan37 Says:

    Now I see why the Glazers threw out the blackouts.

  196. Kevin1 Says:

    And boy I sure am glad the bucs are holding back their play book cause I’m sure defenses are shaking in their shoes worried about it. I mean who do they think they are to say “we aren’t gonna show much” I mean really? Helllllloooo your the bucs for real.

  197. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    No bite in the squad 2nite

  198. gt40bear Says:

    I just hope the Bucs don’t have to rely on reserves too much this year or it will be a long, looonnng season! Starters looked ok to good though.

  199. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    Where is the Realist now? What a coward.

  200. ZBucs Says:

    It’s preseason folks

  201. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Can we fire the DJ…lol

  202. dusthy rhothdes Says:

    kevin right on i mean what should we want out of our team but playoffs every year… fk we are lookin dead at another loser and a top 5 draft pick loser…. this sucks to be a fan of garbage im not a fair weather or bandwagoner this is my team so dec 29 or whatever the last loss of the bucs is my season of football is over, i dont cheer for peyton or the legion of boom i cheer for the creamsicles always and now these ugly unis guys… oh well.. 2017 or bust

  203. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Keven 1, you have me mistaken with someone else.

    “Every year you fill your balloon with air and you get let down.”

    ll I am saying is that you are discounting development. The starters played well. You choose to ignore that?

    We have two of our three best CBs out injured. Of course the secondary is going to suck right now. The defense has looked good aside from the secondary (the starters I mean).

    All I’m saying is this…preseason exists to find strengths and weaknesses so they can be addressed. You know if this is the case IF you see any improvement from week to week. We are, so it is far too soon to make a prediction like yours.

    If you have so little faith in the team, staff and players, why bother being a fan?

    Do I have to point out the positives to you? Because I can. Yes, there are issues to be addressed, but all of them can be addressed during the preseason or shortly after.

  204. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    OMG, dusthy rhothdes, you suck as a fan, lol. Also as a speller and with your grammar.

  205. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    sorry Hawaiian, i was in the other joe’s article….

  206. Kevin1 Says:

    I’ve been a die hard bucs fan since I was 13 years old I’m now 34 and have never missed one game. Even through all the blackouts I found a stream to watch. And I’m sorry no one wants the bucs to win more than me but this looks like a 7-9 team at best. Anyone disagree? Most people can spot a good team pretty quickly and everyone is searching for little things to say ” see see they’re good” when really it’s just another 7-9 typical bucs season. Nothing at all to indicate anything different than a typical season.

  207. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Nice sweep

  208. dusthy rhothdes Says:

    glennon really???? ronde you are right on

  209. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Glennon got lucky. Tell me, Realist…how many turnovers were there when McCown was in?

  210. dusthy rhothdes Says:


  211. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Fight through it

  212. Kevin1 Says:

    Sorry bonzai I’m just frustrated every year seems to be the same song and dance I get so hyped up for the season and think “they may have a chance” yes people are hurt. The d is fine I’m not worried about that. It s the offense as usual.

  213. Jeagan1999 Says:

    Both QBs have looked good and bad at times. I think our offensive line has really shown they need a lot of work. They’re making it very difficult for whoever is behind center!

  214. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    glennon is hitting his receiver, he cannot control when the ball bounces off receivers.

    But i am sure that old man mcCown 46 yards were ” hall o fame” number to you guys…smh

  215. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Kevin1 Says
    “…this looks like a 7-9 team at best. Anyone disagree?”

    I understand there are fans that talk about going 11-5 and all that. That’s not me. I feel it is too early to make that sort of prediction. I also feel it is too early to make your prediction.

    You may be right. You may not be. Too soon to tell.

  216. The_Buc_Realist Says:


    McCoy looks line, the rest of the d-line. not so much!

  217. BoondockBuc Says:

    Can’t believe we are the worst team in florIda. I’m still reserving all judgement until game 3 of preseason before I worry to much. Come on regular season. We ready. In Lovie we trust remember.

  218. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Good rush Solomon

  219. Kevin1 Says:

    Yes it may be too soon for any prediction. But if you had to guess. Does this look more good or bad?

  220. dusthy rhothdes Says:

    at best 7-9 and that may be screwing chances to get a good QB

  221. unbelievable Says:

    Are you kidding me? Glennon just made 3 terrible pass attempts in a row!

    Off-target, into double or triple coverage. He does not look good at all.

    Can Realist and the MGM just go away now?

  222. ZBucs Says:

    I have seen teams look great in preseason, then go on and just be horrible in the regular season. And the other way around. I watch preseason to see the rookies and new players. It’s nice to see a win, but I hope the team makes good player decisions.

  223. lurker Says:

    derek carr played well with the raiders’ first team, for what it’s worth.

  224. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    The_Buc_Realist Says
    “glennon is hitting his receiver, he cannot control when the ball bounces off receivers. ”

    OMFG…you are blind as heck, lol. Glennon has hit his WR maybe 4-6 times in this game. He has missed by a yard or more many more times. He fumbled the ball. He threw a pick (even if it did not count). He has failed to score, EVEN with his starting oline.

    For a person calling yourself “Realist” you sure are not one.

  225. The_Buc_Realist Says:


    it looks sloppy with a side of Bad!

  226. Hawaiian Buc Says:


    That’s a pretty obvious answer,but it’s still early. I’ve seen enough football to know the preseason doesn’t often tell you squat when it comes to predicting what’s going to happen in the regular season. I’m personally deathly afraid of our OL, but it’s still early. Not going to start thinking about the draft in August.

  227. Kevin1 Says:

    @buc realist.
    Your right gmc=awesome
    The rest=Shew I’m worried

  228. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    I really wish there was an ignore option on this site like the old Bucs message board had. Joe, I don’t know if that is possible, but it would make a bunch of us happy.

  229. LUVMYBUCS Says:


  230. Kevin1 Says:

    I don’t want playoffs every year just every once in a while would be nice. Is that too much to ask?

  231. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Michael Roos & Alex Boone come on down

  232. Ghost Says:

    We can’t convert on 3rd down to save our lives. Piss poor

  233. BucsRokk26 Says:

    Glennon Sucks!!! I really hope the “future” isn’t on on this team yet….

  234. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    “glennon is hitting his receiver, he cannot control when the ball bounces off receivers.

    But i am sure that old man mcCown 46 yards were ” hall o fame” number to you guys…smh”


    Are you f-ing kidding me? Seriously? He’s got a fumble, a pick, and he’s the king of the 3 & out, and you really honestly believe he’s playing well. You’re a freaking moron. No credibility whatsoever with that stupid analysis

  235. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Good play Fletch

  236. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    Yes, I know the pick didn’t count. My bad, he’s playing wonderful. Give him the job.

  237. Hawaiian Buc Says:


    Why can’t you talk about Glennon without slamming McCown? That’s a weak move by a weak coward of a person

  238. VancouverBucsFan Says:


  239. Bill T Says:

    Bucs will be lucky to go 7-9. If you think McCown is going to lead this team anywhere, I feel for ya. He is not better than Glennon, as evidenced by his career all over the map. Their O-Line will always make their QBs struggle so we really can’t see either excel. McCoy and David are studs but they can’t carry the whole team on their backs.

  240. VancouverBucsFan Says:

    Detroit lions 4-0 preseason… 0-16 wasn’t it??? Remember??? Chill out

  241. Ghost Says:

    Serious bush league play even for pre season.

  242. Mumbles Says:

    Dig in, Buc fans! Gonna be a long frustrating season!

  243. Danimal Says:

    Time will show Lovie & Licht blundered this draft.
    A team with no QB passed on a future Pro Bowl QB to take an average WR
    A team with no O-Line and 3 good backs took another RB
    Herron will not make this team. and they will finish 6-10

  244. lurker Says:

    i think glennon is not the cannon but dynamite…glennon dynamite wants a dang que-sa-dill-a

  245. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    I like how we have shown vast improvement from preseason game 1 and 2…LMAO

  246. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Kevin1 Says
    “Yes it may be too soon for any prediction. But if you had to guess. Does this look more good or bad?”

    If I was forced? I would be wise enough to consider the starters apart from the backups. I would also judge individual units and players to see who has improved.

    Keep in mind, most of the guys you are seeing will be cut in the next week or so.

    Here are my positives
    Mason foster. He played a big role in stopping the run while the starters were in.

    Josh McCown. He was just mobile enough to buy time. Most of his passes were more accurate than last week. He had a fast release about 85% of the time.

    Clayborn. He had his ups and downs. He was better this week than last. While he got over-powered on a few plays, he also pushed his guy 7-10 yards back several times, allowing GMC to run free.

    Evans. His play was much improved.

    Jenkins. Same.

    Spense. He also played well against the run.

    Doug Martin. He looks like he’s got his wheels back.

    Vincent Jackson. He scored.

    Defense. Got some sacks. Secondary looked bad but then it was 2/3s backups in a starting role.

    Oline was not great, but they were improved over last week. If they keep improving from Preseason game to preseason game they might just be good enough in game 1.

    The Tedford offense. I did not think I would be impressed but I am. Barely any of it has been shown, but the no huddle twist kept the offense moving quick, like you might see with the Packers, Saints or Broncos.

    So long as wee see improvement each week, anything is possible.

    Yes, I see negatives as well. I could list just as many as the positives. But things are improving so far. Little by little.

    The big question is this. Will our defense be able to keep the teams in our division from running up the score on us? We need to see the starting secondary to find that out. Until we do, we cannot be certain of predictions either way.

  247. Ghost Says:

    I don’t know why glennon thinks he has that much time. Throw it away.

  248. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    0-4 preseason.
    11-5 regular season.
    (forget the year)

    And no, I don’t think we will go 11-5. I’m just saying that anything can happen.

  249. Kevin Says:


    I like your thinking! I’m gonna hibernate till nest season.

  250. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    @Hawaiian Buc

    Notice how bitter the MGM is? I think every MGMer is predicting a losing season.

  251. Kevin1 Says:

    Only the starters. I’m not paying attention to backups. But if you had to guess on starters? I say very average. Do you really think it’s gonna go from average to playoff? Which is bypassing good.

  252. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    Does the offense 1st, 2nd, and 3rd string need a lot of work? yes
    Are we hoping that o-line talent is average and maybe they will eventually play average? yes
    Is there difference from Mccown to Glennon, no
    then why are we wasting time with Mccown?

    I am starting to think that Lovie knows that mccown will not be running with the 1st team by the end of the year.

  253. BoondockBuc Says:

    Whoosa. New system. New coaches. New players. Need time to gel. We still figuring out our best players to start. Time. Time. Time. That’s what I’m telling myself anyway. Was hoping for best but might still rebuilding.

  254. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    We look pretty lethargic out there tonight. No one seems to be stepping up from the 2nd 3rd team.

  255. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    i have been predicting losing seasons for the last 6 seasons? way before MGM.

  256. BucNasty Says:

    Solomon Patton looks explosive, much better than Rainey on punt return IMO

  257. unbelievable Says:

    @Bonzai, that’s a pretty accurate take based on what we’ve seen so far.

    @Realist, there is a difference between them, you’re obviously just not watching.

  258. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    just heard atlanta’s starting left tackle went down and was carried off on a stretcher.

  259. Mach Says:

    Soloman patton should be our returner he played well quick too the kids got that little something extra special about him

  260. Kevin1 Says:

    Just how many plays do you think a defense can be on the field before giving up some points? We aren’t gonna score consistently let’s just face it now. Come on man don’t act like ” oh it’s ok let’s wait till our hurt “defensive” players are back. It’s the OFFENSE. I sure hope I’m wrong and your right but I’ve seen nothing at all to indicate us going anywhere but a win or two more. Gosh I hope I’m wrong. The o line was a little better but not like it was leaps or bounds. It was “eh” if that’s a word. Our d can’t be on the field all game and the dolphins had an 11 play drive in the first half. That will turn in tds eventually. And I just don’t think the o’line will hold together all season for them to score many points and hang with the saints or falcons or others outside our division. Am I delusional?

  261. lurker Says:

    so how many games do we need to judge lovie’s poor decisions on o-line and not drafting a qb?

  262. Hawaiian Buc Says:


    FIrst of all, from everything I have seen and read, McCown does look better. However, that’s not really what I base my decision on as much as what happened last year. McCown was very good last year, albeit in limited time. 13-1 TD to INT ratio is about as good as it gets. He’s experienced, is a great leader, and has a history with our coach. Glennon, on the other hand, was what you would expect from a rookie on a bad team last year. He was inconsistent, and scared to take any chances. He didn’t make a lot of mistakes, but he rarely made any NFL quality throws. I’m not saying he can’t, but he just didn’t last year.

    I would rather take an experienced vet over a young, learning QB. First of all, we obviously aren’t very good on the OL. The worst thing you can do for a young QB is rattle him with terrible protection. That’s not even debatable. Second, why not let him learn? That used to be the norm. He’s a third round pick, so it’s not like he’s making big money. I don’t see a large amount of fans with #8 jerseys either, so there’s not much pressure from the fans either. Let him watch, let the vet teach him and run for his life, and when the time is right, Glennon will play. Of course that’s assuming he can play, which I’m still not sold on. But I’ve yet to see one game from him, preseason or regular season, that leads me to believe he is deserving to be an NFL starter.

  263. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    The_Buc_Realist Says
    “Is there difference from Mccown to Glennon, no”

    You are not even watching the game are you? There is a huge difference, so far. McCown played at least 3 times better than Glennon.

    Also, if you have been predicting losing seasons that long, then you are not a Bucs fan.

    Kevin 1, again…the offense scored with the starters. You act like they did not. How do you know they won’t be consistent at it? This is a knew offense. New players. New oline. New QB. New WR. New TE. New Coach. New OC. New DC.

    You cannot judge them by what has happened in previous years.

    We’ll have a clearer picture next week because the starters will be in for the first half. The playbook will still be kept mostly secret, but we’ll at least see some of it and how the players do with it.

  264. rayjay1122 Says:

    Sign the streaking fan. Best run of the game. Lol

  265. BoondockBuc Says:

    A lot of controversy over this game wish I could have seen but sounds like same ol same ol. I do believe we will be better but thinking we hurting ourselves not playing our offense and trying to be all Obama about it. Let’s just play it and get into a groove and perfect it. By game 3 it gonna be exposed anyway. Why wait. Practice perfect dominant. Fire them cannons..

  266. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    lurker, I also think we should have drafted oline and QB. However, having failed to do that does not mean the draft class is a bad one. Certainly, Evans and Jenkins look good.

    Schiano was very good at the draft. Maybe Licht or Lovie will be as well. Lovie did say in an interview that he used FAs on the oline because he could not do it all in the draft.

    I suspect he will go after oline next year, if the current guys do not get good enough.

  267. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Can’t wait for Lovie’s interview on Monday

  268. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    BoondockBuc, I think they would if we didn’t have early division games.

  269. BoondockBuc Says:

    Bonzai I agree. You can only fill so many holes in 1 off season. Next draft will be both lines all the way. Protection and pass rush. We need time to great but we starting off well. We all just need to calm down and telax

  270. Kevin1 Says:

    Ok bonzai next week then lol
    I just wanna hear the cannons fire.
    And yes that drive and td was nice I must say.
    And I agree with BOONDOCK don’t wait with the offense bring it.

  271. lurker Says:

    issue with the draft is wr was deep…we needed, and still need, a qb. we were in perfect position to get a good one. free agency was not the place to address the qb position.

    the oline is self-made disappointment by lovie. he got rid of zuttah and arguably others and it is biting our asses now.

  272. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Fire Dem

  273. BoondockBuc Says:

    Bonzai. True I guess. If we can mask it for the first couple against those nasty defenses then get in groove I can see it but still just 50/50 on it

  274. lurker Says:

    so now all 3 qb’s have one td…decisions, decisions


  275. Stanglassman Says:

    I’m not sure why the staff can’t wait to cut Page but Patton gave them the excuse tonight.

  276. Newbucsfan!!! Says:

    trade or cut glennon, rainey, demps, clay

  277. BuccaneerBonzai Says:


    I agree on the Zuttah move. Huge mistake in my opinion, and I said so then. Even if you say it was for cap room, the Bucs have more than enough to have covered him another year.

    But what’s done is done. All we can do is hope that the oline that makes the final roster can do well enough this year. I noticed the Tedford offense is very fast-paced like it’s been described. I like that.

    If the offense is run that fast, the oline won’t have to block as long as it has in previous years. 3-4 seconds with McCown might be enough the majority of the time.

  278. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Stanglassman, Page is going nowhere. He is the projected starter at returns.

    Newbucsfan, Glennon and Demps have no trade value at present. Demps won’t even make the team. Rainey has more trade value than Clay, but we need both now.

  279. BoondockBuc Says:

    New bucs fan

    Sad but true we can’t replace any of them with better players. Glennon is not horrible but needs to learn nfl timing and get better. Rainey is solid. Dempsey would be great project if we were a better team and could afford roster spot with such a player. Don’t think he makes it and clay well he has been torn down by system for couple years. If he dont progress this year he needs to go. This system is favorable for D ends. No excuses after this year. Back to the rbs if we let go Rainey and demos we screwed. All we have is Martin and James. Not enough for a season as last year tough us.

  280. BoondockBuc Says:

    Damn a lot of typos in that last post. Post game drinks kicking in.

  281. TheShaz Says:

    Going to say we will have a rough and ugly 1st half of the season, but finish well.

    The O-line Is cause for concern. Yes they were better than last week. But still poor.

    D-Line. It’s GMC and the others were blocking pads. Where is the edge rush?

    Secondary. Absent. Granted the penciled in starters were out but the backups stunk and then themselves started to drop out to injuries.

    I know L & L can’t replace the whole team with talent in one season. I am also thinking allot of fans were expecting 8-8 or better this season. But I don’t see It

  282. RP Says:

    Draft pick Kadeem Edwards sucked!!