The Countdown: Worst 20 Buccaneers Of The Past 10 Years — No. 4
July 21st, 2014
The popular NFL Top-Whatever craze got Joe thinking of the anemic Tampa Bay teams of the past 10 years. Not a Bucs playoff victory since their Super Bowl glory. Ugh!
That motivated Joe to gather with his senior and junior level staff and rank the 20 worst Buccaneers of those years. Serious deliberations went down at JoeBucsFan.com world headquarters. Beer bottles were thrown. Game film came out. Arguments ensued.
One poorly dressed intern even quit when he was told Kellen DJ Toes On The Line Winslow wasn’t a finalist.
In the end, primary consideration was given to expectations combined with on-field performance. Off-field behavior was a factor, and players were not punished for injuries.
No. 4— defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth (2011)
Haynesworth is deserving of this spot for one simple reason: he made those around him measurably worse.
Haynesworth was so inept it was hard to stomach. Shortly after the close of the 2011 season, one in which the Bucs defense was torched repeatedly en route to 10 straight losses, Joe had an extensive chat with former Bucs pass rush coach Keith Millard, the former All-Pro defensive tackle.
Millard revealed in detail how Haynesworth was disruptive, but not in the way Gerald McCoy, the man Haynesworth replaced, disrupts offensive backfields. Millard explained that Haynesworth was screwing up his teammates.
JoeBucsFan.com: Albert Haynesworth seemed to be doing his share of freelancing on the D-line and was in and out of his gaps. Was that a problem when you’re trying to coach young guys?
Keith Millard: When Albert got here, I remember when Albert played at Tennessee, he was a very disruptive force. But they didn’t really play a lot of technique. [Former Titans defensive line coach Jim] Washburn was about getting off, getting up field, but not about reacting to the run and technique to react to the run. Albert was a little behind in that facet when he got to Tampa, even in the preparation to know what’s coming and how to help yourself, He just wasn’t schooled on anticipating and taking things away before they even happen. That was all new to him. Even his stance, that made it different for him to the play the blocks [Tampa Bay] would get week in and week out … He was getting two-hole scooped. They were blocking two guys with one guy. … He was pretty beat up when we got him and not practicing much and only playing on Sundays. That really didn’t create a situation where he was going to improve much with us coming in late with little practice time.
Former rockstar general manager Mark Dominik claimed Haynesworth out of desperation, following Haynesworth getting waived by the Patriots. McCoy was injuredt and the Bucs had no answers on the bench. The sad thing was Dominik claimed his personal scouting of Haynesworth revealed a player who still had it.
BSPN was listening and documenting.
“I watched every game twice. I watched how he played, his effort, his motor, what they asked him to do, what he actually did do,” Dominik said, adding that what he saw on tape was a player that can be “strong, powerful, dominating, disruptive and can overpower an opponent.”
“When I see him hit a gap or shoot a gap, he still can play football,” Dominik said. “He’s not one of these older players that really can’t play anymore. I just want him to play our way.”
At least the Bucs didn’t invest much in Haynesworth, but his performance was cruel and unusual punishment to everyone who bleeds pewter and red.
No. 5 — Sabby Piscitelli No. 6 — Myron Lewis No. 7 — Byron Leftwich No. 8 — Edell Shepherd No. 9 — Jerramy Stevens No. 10 — Jim Bates No. 11 — Gaines Adams No. 12 — Keydrick Vincent No. 13 — Dre Moore No. 14 —Kevin Ogletree No. 15 – Sean Mahan No. 16 — Da’Quan Bowers No. 17 — Daniel Te’o-Nesheim No. 18 — Kyle Moore No. 19 – Jeremy Trueblood No. 20 – Michael ClaytonThe Countdown: Worst 20 Buccaneers Of The Past 10 Years will run once or twice daily until No. 1 is revealed on Thursday, July 24.
July 21st, 2014 at 2:14 pm
I swear, if Glennon makes top 3……..
July 21st, 2014 at 2:20 pm
Im gonna turn green, grow so large I rip my clothes and then go all NINJA on you mofos! 🙂
July 21st, 2014 at 2:22 pm
Haynesworth reminds me of a coach who talked about “The Buccaneer Way & Buccaneer Men.” But the reality was it was only his way. I really believe he listen to the coaches and players but never made adjustments. The General probably sounded like a recording to everyone who enter his office. “Johnny thanks for stopping by. I will consider your suggestion. Hey Johnny! Come back anytime. My office is your office. Sleep well tonight! I know I will!”
Like “The General,” Haynesworth also slept well at night…
July 21st, 2014 at 2:23 pm
Glad to see we agree on Hayenesworth Joe. I thought Ward was deserving, but at this point will be happy seeing Benn, Lindell, and another WR get their call
July 21st, 2014 at 2:36 pm
Aneother meh. I’ve forgotten Albert Haynesworth was even on the Bucs. No one cared then or cares now.
July 21st, 2014 at 2:36 pm
Benn better be on there
July 21st, 2014 at 2:57 pm
No offense Touch Down, but how does Haynesworth’s appearance on this list have anything to do with “the general”(of which I assume you mean Schiano)? Let’s keep it on subject, this guy speaks for himself! How did he make a Pro Bowl?!
July 21st, 2014 at 2:57 pm
Pretty much all of these players were on the Raheem Morris teams. Not saying he was a great coach or anything but think about that when think about his tenure as HC.
July 21st, 2014 at 2:58 pm
As Duemig often says, you can’t make chicken soup out of chicken spit.
July 21st, 2014 at 3:02 pm
@ KJ
I often do think of that and that’s why I think Rah set this team back a decade with his poor talent evaluation combined with not knowing how to make players better. Say what you will about Schiano’s rigid ways, at least he helped get talent in here and helped to develop some of it.
July 21st, 2014 at 3:05 pm
MadMax… Glennon would’nt even be top 200 worst Bucs in the last decade at this point in his Buc career.
July 21st, 2014 at 3:09 pm
How could some of you possibly think Joe would put a strong backup quarterback like Glennon on this list?. The man at least played up this draft status in his rookie year.
July 21st, 2014 at 3:13 pm
Just thankful Haynesworth didn’t sign with us when we offered him over 100 million! Thank you redskins
July 21st, 2014 at 3:16 pm
Glennon! Glennon! Glennon! Gooooooooooooo Glennon!!!!
July 21st, 2014 at 3:24 pm
Joe Says:
July 21st, 2014 at 3:09 pm
How could some of you possibly think Joe would put a strong backup quarterback like Glennon on this list?. The man at least played up this draft status in his rookie year.
Oh I dont know, just to mess with us MGMers’….. I wouldnt put it past you man 😛
July 21st, 2014 at 3:25 pm
Dominick was forced to acquire Haynesworth because of not having better depth going into the season.
July 21st, 2014 at 3:31 pm
BUT its still the last guy that I saw block a extra point with a buccs jersey on
July 21st, 2014 at 3:33 pm
Raheem Morris #1, Josh Freeman #2 and Greg Schiano #3
July 21st, 2014 at 3:34 pm
Also, Haynesworth was just a waiver wire acquisition that nobody else wanted anyway.
The MOVE to sign him for 100 million is worse than the actual waiver wire pick up.
July 21st, 2014 at 3:35 pm
Where are the reports of the rookies reporting? Training camp is coming and would think someone would be at 1 Buc getting scoops on our new guys coming in.. I know you need filler Joes with this silly list but it’s time to get to work.
July 21st, 2014 at 3:45 pm
@237- No way Schiano is #3! If we’re putting coaches in here, Jeff Jagodzinsky was FAAAAAAAAR worse! To think otherwise is insane! No way!
July 21st, 2014 at 3:45 pm
i have freeman @1 morris @2
July 21st, 2014 at 3:50 pm
Kenyatta walker?
July 21st, 2014 at 3:53 pm
3) mike Nuggent 2) dexter Jackson wr 1) jeff jagodzinski
July 21st, 2014 at 4:01 pm
@Bucsfanman – non taken Buddy. We are all having fun here.
Schiano should be coming up soon. Like Haynesworth he did things his way. They both gifted Bucs fan a NIGHTMARE!
It’s always best to work together with those around you…. in the defense of line or with your coaching staff.
They are both laughing all the way to the bank. One played for Laughingstock I…. the other is president of Laughingstock II.
July 21st, 2014 at 4:07 pm
People just think about this….Who cause more loses for this organization by himself??????
Is not complicated… you will see!
Remember approve game plans and adjustments. Yes remember the adjustments performed during halftime…while the team was napping???
July 21st, 2014 at 4:15 pm
Speaking of Schiano.. He’s alive and kickin on NFL Live.. I guess ESPN will hire any loser.. Unreal
July 21st, 2014 at 4:17 pm
Some of you are freaking crazy to add Freeman to this list. Gezz! I know he went all mental last year, but how soon we forget he lead a band of misfits to a 10-6 record and like 26 TDs to only 6 INTs in 2010. Plus 2012 set franchise QB records for passing yards (and attempts I believe). Freeman is not deserving of top 20 worst by any means. Now top 20 melt downs… sure!
July 21st, 2014 at 4:31 pm
@BucsRokk26 – I’m with you!
He also broke many if not all Brad Johnson’s Buccaneer records…
Lovie would have been the perfect fit for Freeman.
July 21st, 2014 at 4:33 pm
Countdown to Dominik
July 21st, 2014 at 4:36 pm
MadMax Says:
July 21st, 2014 at 2:14 pm
I swear, if Glennon makes top 3……
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Lol. Good one, bru.
The real drama is whether or not Freeman
will appear. I would have put him at around 5
if it was me. He may not appear at all.
Only the Joes knows.
July 21st, 2014 at 4:43 pm
@BucsRokk26 – I’m with you!
He also broke many if not all Brad Johnson’s Buccaneer records…
Lovie would have been the perfect fit for Freeman. But right now I don’t think anyone wants Freeman. Rightly so…..
July 21st, 2014 at 5:27 pm
“…Also, Haynesworth was just a waiver wire acquisition that nobody else wanted anyway…”
Thats exactly right. So there were NO expectations (supposedly one of the criterias). No one else wanted him. He cost very little. But somehow, Haynesworth is near the top of the list. And Derrick Ward who got MILLIONS from the Bucs is not even on the list and Stone Hands barely made the list. Must be the “Miller Lite, I Like My Beef Burned, Ain’t Got No Hives” Joe making this list.
I vote Joe’s List #1
July 21st, 2014 at 6:00 pm
Dominik was runner up to Washington in the Haynesworth sweepstakes. Dominik might not have made it to a contract extension if he unloaded the vault on Haynesworth. In some ways, it was one of the better moves Dominik didn’t make, even if it was by luck.
July 21st, 2014 at 6:04 pm
I think the cost of Haynesworth negated the negative side at the time. The simple truth is a lot of excuses can be made for the oline at the time, and that’s all they were…excuses.
Dominick and Morris only got one thing right during their era together…GMC…and even that took until the third year to start paying off.
July 21st, 2014 at 6:06 pm
@BirdDoggers
Exactly right.
I remember screaming against getting Haynesworth during that bidding war.
July 21st, 2014 at 6:57 pm
Another head scratchier. Came in and played all of, what, 6 games, off the scrap heap, was cheap, and was pretty much just a body to fill in place for our injured DTs. He made everybody worse? everybody was already worse to begin with! None of those guys that surrounded him are even on the team anymore. The only real talent we had was McCoy, thats it, and he was injured. Fat Albert was filler, and should be remembered as such.
July 21st, 2014 at 7:37 pm
Dexter Jackson WR 2nd round bust should be number one!
July 21st, 2014 at 8:45 pm
Josh Freeman is definitely #1
July 21st, 2014 at 8:47 pm
I also hope you can write an article on some of the players you did not put on this list and why you chose not too.
July 21st, 2014 at 9:39 pm
Dirtstar GM tried to throw a 9 figure deal @ Mrs. Buttersworth but he stiff armed the Bucs…until he was in last chance gas territory. Is it me or is Joe finally turning on ol’ Dirtstar Dominik? 🙂
July 21st, 2014 at 10:44 pm
@Andrew,
Well said. A very poor choice.
July 21st, 2014 at 10:58 pm
Yeah, this is a waste of a good spot, Joes… I could see him in the mid teens, but there have been many more disappointing Bucs the last ten years. The list’s name should be changed to the Top Twenty Bucs that have really pissed Joe off in the Last Ten Years. (although I’m with you on Sheppard… That drop broke my heart).
July 22nd, 2014 at 1:54 pm
I knew the minute he was signed that it was the end of Raheem. Really capped off that season nicely.