Don’t Be Alarmed (Yet)

July 27th, 2014

Lovie Smith said it’s too early to panic about the Bucs guards

Joe understands many Bucs fans are still hungover after trying to drink away news that All-Pro guard Carl Nicks is done. The beers were swilled, but in the morning, Nicks was still gone and the ugly hangover was all too real.

Now, the Bucs are looking at guards Jamon Meredith, Oniel Cousins and Kadeem Edwards as starters on the front line. That bottle of Tums fans are eating is not just to kill that hangover.

Agitated Bucs fans may want to calm down, Lovie Smith suggested. For a variety of reasons, Lovie has yet to slap the panic button.

“They’re veterans,” Lovie said about Cousins and Meredith. “They have been here before, they do have a little bit more experience and I talk a lot about starting rotation, they’re all getting reps, Kadeem Edwards is doing a good job, we can go down the line of those young players, but they’re all getting reps right now. We get great evaluations by what’s on the other side of our guards, when you have a player like [defensive tackles] Gerald McCoy, Clinton McDonald and Akeem Spence. We get a good reading on how good those players really are.”

That is an interesting point Lovie made. For fans who attend practices and are not won over by the current guards, one reason is that the Bucs’ defensive tackles are so good. (Akeem Spence seems to be blowing up.).

Also, Lovie suggested the Bucs are only on their third day of practice. Lots of time for Cousins and Meredith to improve, or for the Bucs to dumpster dive for linemen that have been cut — or will be in the coming weeks.

To hear more of Lovie’s post-practice comments, click on the red button below. Audio courtesy of Joe’s friends at WDAE-AM 620.

37 Responses to “Don’t Be Alarmed (Yet)”

  1. Buccfan37 Says:

    Dumpster diving, now that’s a team after my own heart. One team’s castoff trash is another team’s treasure.

  2. dusthy rhothdes Says:

    What about richie incognito, he would be a great addition

  3. Mort Says:

    Dusthy: No. That’s the worst idea I’ve read on here in a long time, and for some reason people keep bringing it up.


  4. RastaMon Says:

    yawn…nothing real to talk about …..

  5. Buccfan37 Says:

    I thought it was’nt polite to yawn in public.

  6. PRBucFan Says:

    Honestly with how few games he started as a Buc, it wouldn’t make since to fret about it.

    It’s practically like he wasn’t a Buc to begin with.

  7. Tom Edrington Says:

    A Carl Nicks Hangover?


    Did anyone seriously think Captain Kangaroo was going to play again? The guy had to be in horrible shape anyway, hasn’t done anything in two years.

    All-Pro? That should be FORMER All-Pro, and he’s evidence that teams simply do not part with outstanding players very often. You have to believe the Saints had the inside track that he was heading to retirement quicker than most might have thought.

    At this point, it’s important to listen to what Derrick Brooks had to say in one of your posts a while back.

    No one knows at this point what the final 53-man roster will look like.

    I would think most fans would wait until after the third preseason game before they start to get a handle on all of this.

  8. Bob Says:

    Somebody educate me……is the defensive line usually ahead of the curve early on?

  9. trox Says:

    I believe Omameh will be one of the starting guards at the end of training camp.

  10. Bill Says:

    Guys don’t just suddenly improve in their sixth or seventh season.

  11. Bill Says:

    If Omameh and/or Edwards don’t run away with jobs, guards will stink.

  12. deminion Says:

    @Joe Spence has been ballin?

  13. RichBucsfan Says:

    beware the preseason hype … it’s been this way for 10 years and we all know how much hype Schiano had when he came in … I’m far more wait and see than manic over the new Bucs …

  14. Danati74 Says:

    San Fran is suddenly thin at RB due to injuries. Possibly a trade for there Pro Bowl Guard wanting a new contract.

  15. Orca Says:

    Joe, there was no Carl Nicks hangover. Anyone paying attention stopped placing hope in him long ago. The outcome was no surprise. And I think they’ll be fine at OG anyway. Not stellar, but OK.

  16. SeanyMac in SC Says:

    Nicks played a grand total of 9 games for the Bucs in two years. He has been absent for so long that he’s hardly been missed at this stage in the game IMO. I’m wondering what sort of salary cap hit he is going to be.

  17. Teacherman777 Says:

    We need to bring somebody in!!

    I love the Incognito idea.

    I wish we had traded for Zack Martin.

    I love the idea of trading for and signing Alex Boone from San Fran.

    We need to do something!!

  18. Teacherman777 Says:

    We could teach incognito and the world about forgiveness!

    I say a humbled and focused Incognito might be just what our O-line needs.

    And we trade for Alex Boone. A 2nd rounder next year.

    Boom. We have two badass guards.

    Boom we are legit.

  19. louden Says:

    Lovie said they get good evaluation and i think he sees exactly what everyone is seeing: lack of talent on the o-line – he just can´t sign the best one just like that – therefore we got to be patient, but Lovie knows that Bucs arent good enough there (yet).
    Edwards will need a year at least (getting strengh) and he wasn´t a beast in college – so lets see if he is an NFL-player. time will tell.

    Wonder how the DE are doing- Joooe, can you tell us pleeease? (imagine RachelWatson asking)

  20. RastaMon Says:

    Carl Nicks~~~~~~~~~~~c’est la vie~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  21. Orca Says:

    Teacherman777 Says:
    July 27th, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    We need to bring somebody in!!

    I love the Incognito idea.

    I wish we had traded for Zack Martin.

    I love the idea of trading for and signing Alex Boone from San Fran.

    We need to do something!!

    Desperation moves usually end up being a mistake. Settle down. Come off the ledge. It’s not that bad. Sure, they have to figure this out, and maybe an experienced quality starter is a good idea, but the price still has to be right. The best thing about Lovie and Jason Licht is that they have a plan, they execute it, and they don’t panic. If the right player comes available at the right price that would upgrade the team, I’m quite confident they’ll be on it. Until that opportunity arises, stick to the plan. Coach the young guys, maximize their talent, cognizant of the future as well.

  22. Eric Says:

    Carolina doesnt know who their left tackle is, are thin at receiver, and Newton isn’t 100%.

    I like our chances.

    We got good players at center and the tackles. Were fine.

  23. Andrew 1 Says:

    I remember a lot of people were freaking out just before the start of last season because we had no TE, and look what happened. Some no name player, Tim Wright, got a shot and it ended up turning out really well.

  24. Ghost Says:

    If you really thought that Gandolf was going to wave his magic staff so that nicks could perform a miracle savior on the OL I have some farmland I’d like to sell you down in the Everglades. Yeah I was in shock that nicks wasn’t able to be our savior after playing in 2 games within the last 2 yrs. that I drowned myself In beer because I was so distraught. Give me a break joe.

  25. BigMacAttack Says:

    Do you know the salary cap ramifications for the Bucs with Nicks retirement? Does it relieve any of the salary to give more room for the Bucs to trade or get a high price replacement possibly?

    If anyone else has the answer please post.

  26. Orca Says:

    ^^ Nicks has not retired. He was released with a settlement. If he had retired, the Bucs could’ve washed their hands of salary cap implications, I believe. Under this settlement, the team has several million in dead cap in each of the next 2 years, but still less than it would’ve been had Nicks remained on the roster or PUP/IR.

  27. Joe Says:

    Do you know the salary cap ramifications for the Bucs with Nicks retirement?

    Bucs refused to release that information Friday.

  28. Thomas Says:

    I don’t get it. To be missed wouldn’t ‘ t nicks have to have played more than a handful of games ? Nobody will miss him because he only played a few games I total over what? Two years? He was damaged goods when he arrived before he ever got the mrsa . Again you have have played to be missed.

  29. Mark Says:

    Quick. Name the starting guards from the ’02 Super Bowl team. How about the starting guards for the Seahawks? Remember that year Drew Brees’s stats took a nosedive because he lost Carl Nicks?


  30. Louis Friend Says:

    Even with Nicks nothing was certain. This is going to take a while to sort out. Joe thinks fans are suddenly nervous about guard? Hell, we were nervous 6 months ago. Smart fans already knew he was probably finished.

  31. Joe Says:


    Joe is thinking of writing an article Monday on if guard play is overrated in today’s NFL.

  32. buc4lyfe Says:

    Seriously what’s wrong with people who keep mentioning richie incognito, who wants a grown 300+ man on their team that says he’s being bullied by teammates, is it desperate or just pathetic to be rattled enough to mention richie incognito after the first padded practice of 2014. Seriously get a grip you can’t have a free agent at every position and if your a free agent at this time of year then your probably in the same category as josh Freeman….

  33. Joe Says:


    Not to mention Lovie wouldn’t want anything to do with that cancer in his locker room.

    Just like with Freeman, there is a reason why that dirtbag Incognito is unemployed. Think about it, people.

  34. 1bucfan88 Says:

    One has to hope now that Mr. Steve White is on the staff that someone will be beating on the table for Oneil Cousins…

    ….to NOT be in a Bucs uniform, not to mention the starting lineup, come opening day.

  35. PRBucFan Says:

    He was the bully not the one getting bullied, believe me Lovie wont look twice at him. Bet on it.

  36. Brandon Says:

    Teacherman777 Says:

    July 27th, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    We could teach incognito and the world about forgiveness!

    I say a humbled and focused Incognito might be just what our O-line needs.

    And we trade for Alex Boone. A 2nd rounder next year.

    Boom. We have two badass guards.

    Boom we are legit.


    I don’t know WTF you think you teach, because it sure as hell isn’t football, English, or Ethics. You want us to trade a premium pick for a GUARD(!) and then turn around and pay him top shelf free agent money? Did you learn nothing from the Darrelle Revis massacre? YOU DON’T TRADE PREMIUM PICKS FOR PLAYERS AND THEN SIGN THEM TO FREE MARKET DEALS!

    BTW, how many wildly successful teams blow the bank on offensive guards? Were Denver’s OGs acquired for high picks and given ridiculous contracts? No, that’s something Dominik would have done. He made two guards some of our highest paid players on the team. That is utter lunacy.

  37. Mort Says:

    Given the RB Issues in San Fran and the Alex Boone holdout, we could package a RB and potentially a later round pick (like the Baltimore 5th) to get Boone potentially. SF actually has decent depth at guard even.