“He Just Needs Some Coaching”

May 14th, 2014

mike evans 3New Bucs rookie manbeast receiver Mike Evans is one heck of a raw prospect. Heck, the kid’s only 20 years old. He can’t even drink beer and skinny margaritas with his best friend Johnny Football. (Really, they are tight.)

Evans showed off his skills at Texas A&M, including playing all kinds of backyard football with his BFF.

But life won’t be as easy for Evans in the NFL, so says former Texans and Redskins general manager Charley Casserly. Speaking on the WDAE-AM 620 this morning, Casserly repeated how he is confident Evans was a good pick by the Bucs and the second best receiver in the NFL Draft. However, Casserly said, “he just needs some coaching,” referring to Evans’ route running.

For Joe, this is where it gets interesting. Lovie Smith’s handpicked wide receivers coach, Andrew Hayes-Stoker, doesn’t have much experience.

He’s 34 years old and was a college fullback/running back. He worked as an assistant wide receivers coach with the Bears under Lovie before leaving for a running backs coach job at Florida International University last year. Joe doesn’t know the guy, but one would think Jeff Tedford might have handpicked a more seasoned receivers coach.

That doesn’t mean Hayes-Stoker can’t be effective, but it’s worth noting. The Bucs admit they are relying a lot on Vincent Jackson’s leadership. Hopefully, Jackson will continue to deliver in all ways. A conspiracy theorist might think Jackson won’t be so eager to help. If Evans thrives and is a superstar wide receiver quickly, then that could make Jackson and his unguaranteed eight-figure contract for 2015 expendable.

25 Responses to ““He Just Needs Some Coaching””

  1. voice of reason Says:

    i see what you did there 🙂

  2. BamBamBuc Says:

    Or, a successful Evans might open up the field for an aging VJ, allowing him to have a highly successful year and garner a new 8 figure contract from any of the teams making offers for his services. Yeah, he could be selfish, but I don’t see it happening. VJ knows helping Evans helps himself. He can’t destroy DBs as consistently as he used to and having Evans drawing attention will help him set up his stats to earn one last big payday.

  3. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    I don’t think VJax has any insecurity problems….he will mentor MA13. I’m not sure there are many WR coaches who could do better. Especially, because VJax & MA13 will be so similar with their skillset.
    Just imagine (again)….having the Vjax clone to deal with on the other side of the field instead of Tiquan. Then….throw a 2 TE set of ASJ & Wright into the mix with Sims hitting the slot out of the backfield…..now that is quite a vision.

  4. Phillip Says:


    VJax has some guaranteed money left from when Dom converted his 2012(after the season so it counts as 2013 I’m guessing) salary into a signing bonus(Which pro-rates over the remaining years of his deal) at the end of the season(also did it with Carl Nicks)…. According to the site below he would account for nearly $5 Million against the cap in dead weight if we were to cut him next season and 2.5 in the final year of his deal..


    His cap number is high but I think with the cap inflating like it is being projected I really hope we keep him he will be a great mentor to future receivers and great around the community as well!

  5. abdominal snowman Says:

    Lol hit the slot out of the backfield.

  6. Willy the Purple Helmeted Warror Says:

    Someone ask the question last week how long it would be until the feeding would turn against L&L . Are we beginning to see the edges getting nibbled?

  7. StAugBuc Says:

    Willy the Purple Helmeted Warror Says:
    May 14th, 2014 at 5:35 pm

    Someone ask the question last week how long it would be until the feeding would turn against L&L . Are we beginning to see the edges getting nibbled?
    Really? You’re going to go there 4 months before their first game?

  8. INDYbucsfan Says:

    Totally off subject but how lucky would we be if Greg hardy had to spend the next year in jail for assault and owning a shit ton of illegal guns?

  9. Tackleblockwin Says:

    McCown: Ok, Mike just run straight and look for the ball after 20 yards. You might need to jump to catch it.

    Evans: Got it.

  10. Vince Says:

    @Philip – Cap money is not real money paid to players. THat’s just accounting paperwork. VJax has no more guaranteed cash. Certainly not for next year.

  11. clafollett Says:

    @TBBF, I think you mean ME13. 🙂

    I’d like to think VJ will not have a problem with helping Mike. I’m more worried about our WR coach. I would have liked to see the guy either been a WR at least at the college level or spent more time as an assistant WR coach. I hope VJ can pick up the slack.

    With Austin on board, I’d like to see an article about our TE coach. Will ASJ and Wright be getting quality coaching?

    If we get both groups playing at a high level, our O has excellent potential.

    Go Bucs!

  12. louden Says:

    Buccaneers Offense will be good – will it be enough (for deep playoff run?).

    Last puzzle pieces on Offense: O-line (very critical) and QB..

    Glennon and McCown both good. Average good.

    If the Bucs would have signed Connor Shaw – we would be looking at a Bucs team with serious SuperBowl hopes.
    Shaw throws as good as McGlennon. Maybe even has a stronger arm. Makes very nice deep throws (Glennon is not good at it at all) . … aaaaand

    Connor Shaw moves very very well. He is like BrettSmith – but better in reading defenses and throwing the ball. Connor Shaw is very comparable to RusselWilson.

    Connor Shaw would have been excellent..
    now we got an good O; without the line – and we got an average QB.. no matter who will start of the depth chart big 3..

  13. louden Says:

    ..not maybe an stronger arm – its for damn sure an stronger one..

    why did we pass on Guard Yankey? are there any red flags about him?

  14. Buc1987 Says:

    louden… since you’re going off what Shaw did in college and saying that Glennon can’t throw the deep ball. I suggest you look at Glennon’s college highlights as well and then make you’re comparison. Glennon threw bombs all the time at NC State. No one knows what Shaw will do in the NFL right now. His deep ball could suck just as bad as you say Glennon’s does. So once again look at Glennon’s college highlights and compare. Youtube them. I think you’ll be surprised.

  15. Bucfever40 Says:

    I don’t know where you people keep harping on Glennon’s arm, I think that’s a crock, ever since that nonsense stat equivalent of a 50mph fastball jive got started, but a bunch of you bit on it and now it’s etched in stone. I guess it doesn’t matter that an NFL coach, along with his offensive coordinator and the GM watch him in practice make ALL the throws an NFL QB is graded on, and repeatedly said MG has a gun for an arm, and I believe he does too. I’ve watched all the games over and I know he didn’t tear up the NFL, but he has the tools to be a very good QB, I as a Buc fan am not going to ride him out of town before he has a chance to be coached the right way and develop under a veteran.

  16. kh Says:

    Are we honestly still debating the merits of Conor Shaw? smh (note: kh has never used that acronym before)

  17. Back, from Davie Jones Locker Says:

    Purple helmeted Willie
    You might wanna loosen your grip, and slow down- you’re gonna hurt yourself

  18. STANK Says:

    We start the season facing the Panthers and Rams defenses. We’re likely gonna struggle to run the ball in both of those match ups. Our O-line will be tested with serious pass rush as well. The success or failure of this offense is all on the O-line. I’m skeptical.

  19. Back, from Davie Jones Locker Says:

    Conner Shaws greatness is apparently a secret- revealed only to Louden.
    It is well concealed from the rest of us

  20. BamBamBuc Says:

    Ive been talking about Glennon’s arm strength (or lack of) long before this silly mph stat became popular. Even his scouting report stated when under pressure or on the move, Glennon’s mechanics break down and he uses “all” arm strength, that he relies on the strength of his arm only. No legs, no hips, no back, all arm. This is why he can have a “canon” and a “noodle” at the same time. Pure arm strength can under throw a duck a goo distance. Its not arm strength, he “can” make all the throws. Problem is that he doesn’t. Because of mechanics break down, phantom or real pressure, and poor mobility or ability to reset his feet. Watch the games, college or pro, not the highlights. It becomes much more obvious.

  21. Japabucfan Says:

    Was reading some news article way back in Jan/Feb that Mike Evans was doing some pre-draft/mentoring working out with VJax, so i highly doubt-doubt it that VJax would be resistant to the idea of him being on the team

  22. Phillip Says:


    Still counts against the cap is what I’m getting at…

  23. ToesOnTheLine Says:

    So does this mean Johnny Football will be Connor Shaw’s backup who will in turn be backing up Hoyer? Cleveland Browns…we’re highly touted college QB’s go to see their NFL careers die as soon as the words ” with the 22nd pick” are muttered.

  24. Jim Walker Says:

    I hope his temper does not cost the Bucs too many 15 yard penalties.

  25. BoJim Says:


    Who is this Conner Shaw you speak so highly of?

    I think Cleveland has a fan website. Be gone.