Glennon Offers “Grace Period” For Rookie QB
April 24th, 2014
The Bucs won’t trade Mike Glennon after drafting a rookie quarterback says the new captain of the anti-Johnny-Football Mob, Shaun King, the former Bucs QB and current NBC Sports and Yahoo! Sports analyst.
King likes the tranquility Glennon could provide as a third quarterback on the Bucs roster.
King was asked on the Ron and Ian show on WDAE-AM 620 yesterday whether the Bucs would trade or keep Glennon if they draft a quarterback in the NFL Draft, just two weeks away.
“I think they bring him in. And I think what Glennon allows them to do is be patient with whatever quarterback they draft,” King said. “It’s interesting at No. 7. If the guys in front of [the Bucs] decide not to go quarterback, and if Teddy Bridgewater and Blake Bortles are there at No. 7, I don’t know what Lovie and they would do.
“I would take Bridgewater. But I don’t know what they would do. In the second round, if you can get a Zach Mettenberger, I think he has as chance to be a really good player. When you start getting in the third round, you know, I think Aaron Murray, the kid who’s from Tampa Plant [High School], who’s kind of been under the radar because of the [knee] injury. But when you go back and look at his film, he was much improved as a senior. He holds all the SEC passing records. You know I think there are some guys as you get to the second, third, fourth round, who if you give them a year to acclimate to the NFL, and you’ll have that grace period with Glennon, I think they can be good players.
Joe has to disagree with this scenario. Lovie Smith and general manager Jason Licht, Joe believes, would make a draft-day trade of Glennon if they draft a rookie QB they believe has “franchise” potential. Lovie told local media in March that he cut Josh McCown in Chicago years ago, not because he didn’t like McCown, but because he only wanted to carry two quarterbacks and believed more in Jason Campbell. Lovie has said he’s a two-quarterbacks kind of guy.
Now Joe thinks there’s a chance the Bucs hold Glennon through training camp and possibly into the regular season, for the sake of getting a good look at the rookie QB and seeing how the need for a solid backup like Glennon develops as the season progresses and injuries mount.
(You can enjoy King’s full WDAE-AM 620 audio below.)
April 24th, 2014 at 1:30 pm
Bridgewater sucks if no QB has been taken when we come up to draft and we take him I will not be a happy camper
April 24th, 2014 at 1:35 pm
Glennon is good at tranquility.
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April 24th, 2014 at 1:37 pm
the only reason the Bucs don’t trade him on draft day is if they feel they are not getting value for him…(as compared to what they might get later when injuries come into play…)
April 24th, 2014 at 1:40 pm
” In the second round, if you can get a Zach Mettenberger, I think he has as chance to be a really good player. When you start getting in the third round, you know, I think Aaron Murray”
Maybe Shaun King is quite the Black Panther he’s made out to be.
April 24th, 2014 at 1:41 pm
glennon’s only value is a 6 or 7th rounder MAX unless one of these Mob guys gets a GM job that is. keep him or trade him Glennon is irrelevant to bucs future.
April 24th, 2014 at 1:42 pm
Haha, Oil. Those posts were nothing but a bad joke. I’m all for nailing King’s football opinions, but that stuff yesterday was so ridiculous.
April 24th, 2014 at 1:43 pm
Joe and the “Johnny Man-Love Mob” seem anxious to be rid of MG8. Wonder why? Moot point anyway…there’s no way the Bucs draft a QB at 7…not with all the signal callers available in this very deep QB draft!!
Evans@7! Van Noy in Round 2! Gabe Jackson in Round3! Bucs trade up into Round 4 @ take Aaron Murray!
April 24th, 2014 at 1:44 pm
Now that Glennon is no longer the starter if they get an offer for a 4th or a 5th I’d jump on it.
April 24th, 2014 at 1:44 pm
When was the last time a QB was traded at the draft (as in a current NFL player and not a rookie)? Rarely if ever happens. Trading Glennon after the draft if they draft a QB is a non-starter as it will result in nothing but low-ball offers (6th at best) as teams will wait for the Bucs to inevitably release Glennon.
I’ve said it before but McCown, Glennon, Kafka at camp is a very real possibility. If Glennon were available right now he’d already have been traded because someone would pay a 4th for him, which I have no doubt the Bucs would accept if they actually were trying to trade him. Which should tell you they aren’t trying to.
April 24th, 2014 at 1:49 pm
I doubt there will be a draft day trade of Glennon. The Bucs want 4 QBs in camp (so said the coach). As of now, that would be McCown, Glennon, Kafka and unknown rookie QB. Coach has also said he wants 2 QBs on the roster during the season, but did he say active roster? or total roster? Because Lovie could have 2 QBs on the active roster, and one QB inactive every week. At first, I’d suspect the inactive QB to be the rookie with McCown and Glennon active. As the rookie progresses, I’d expect this to change to McCown and rookie active, Glennon inactive. If we get to that point before the week 10 trade deadline, we might see a mid-season trade of Glennon to a team that has suffered an injury to their starting QB and the backup is struggling. At that point, we could actually get value for Glennon.
April 24th, 2014 at 1:55 pm
“When you start getting in the third round, you know, I think Aaron Murray, the kid who’s from Tampa Plant [High School], who’s kind of been under the radar because of the [knee] injury. But when you go back and look at his film, he was much improved as a senior. He holds all the SEC passing records.”
All rookie QBs are boom or bust with only a very few showing that “cant miss” factor to them. There are none in this draft of the “cant miss” caliber. Get a young guy in the mid rounds, let him and Glennon compete to be the future starter. You have McCown for a few years, if he goes down, you can turn to Glennon who has experience and can manage a game.
April 24th, 2014 at 1:58 pm
Include me in the Aaron Murray mob, lol. Being a Gator guy, I saw him play live a few times. Had he not blown his knee out he would be in the conversation with the top QB’s in this draft. I would use the 1st two picks on WR & O-line and leave nothing to chance and take him with the 3rd RD pick. His arm strength is very underrated, the kid can sling it.
April 24th, 2014 at 2:04 pm
I like Glennon, but if he doesn’t have a chance to be the man here, they should trade him to New England for Ryan Mallett who is a superstar-in-waiting
April 24th, 2014 at 2:09 pm
Trading Glennon makes zero sense to me. In McCown, you have a career back-up with a few good games. If he’s your starter, you back him up with a rookie? I don’t think so because every starter is a hit away from the DL. Then, you are now tossing out the whole premise behind grooming your rookie QB. Kafka is not the answer, he has less experience than all of our QBs. With Glennon in the fold, and I agree with King here, you can take your time to groom that “franchise” guy we all crave. That is, of course, if Glennon isn’t the starter. If he is the starter(IF), the same applies to McCown. It’s a win-win.
You’re not paying Glennon a ton of money and he’s unlikely to garner much in the way of a trade. Why not keep him?
April 24th, 2014 at 2:10 pm
not because he didn’t like McCown, but because he only wanted to carry two quarterbacks and believed more in Jason Campbell.
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Does this not concern anyone but me? That Lovie, after evaluating his QBs a few years ago, deemed McCown unworthy of holding a clipboard in favor of Jason freakin Campbell, but now he’s good enough to be the Bucs starter?
LOVIE (and Joe) KNOWS QBs
April 24th, 2014 at 2:12 pm
Brilliant… if the coaches don’t like Glennon because he doesn’t fit their scheme (mobility of a QB), let’s exchange him for another QB with exactly the same traits as the coaches didn’t like and no playing experience other than preseason. Maybe we could give them a draft pick or two at the same time, just because we’re being so smart about this.
April 24th, 2014 at 2:21 pm
Here again though, we don’t know what QB or what kind of QB would be a perfect fit for this offense, because we haven’t seen this offense yet, how it’s built or what it does
April 24th, 2014 at 2:23 pm
@Joe’s
Your predictions haven’t been real solid over past few months. Hopefully your handicapping skills are better =)
April 24th, 2014 at 2:28 pm
(2014)-3rd or 5th round pick for G Evan Mathis (32)?
April 24th, 2014 at 2:30 pm
BTW,
All the PC screensavers at JBF have that same pic of Manziel from the latest PFT article.
April 24th, 2014 at 2:31 pm
The Bucs won’t cut Glennon cause he’s a quality backup and has a low salary but that’s what makes him attractive to other teams. That being said, I don’t think they would trade him for a 6th RD pick but something higher than that they would have to consider.
April 24th, 2014 at 2:47 pm
I think if the Bucs draft a QB in the first 3 rounds that Glennon will be dealt immediately, probably for a pick in the same draft. They may even use Glennon to move up in the draft once they have their QB of the future secured.
April 24th, 2014 at 2:50 pm
LUVMYBUCS Says:
April 24th, 2014 at 2:28 pm
(2014)-3rd or 5th round pick for G Evan Mathis (32)?
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Mathis is getting paid a ton and is worthless in trade because of his salary and his age. You’re too smart to not have thought of that. We expect more from you than to speculate dumping picks for older high priced players. 🙂
April 24th, 2014 at 2:53 pm
ODB,
That pic is of someone with serious “poling” abilities, not “pulling” abilities.
April 24th, 2014 at 2:57 pm
I know Lovie has held onto two in the past..but he might want to think three IF they do draft a rookie qb in case of injury. Can never have enough good qbs on the roster, and perhaps if McCown goes down and Glennon does well with a better offensive system in place, he;ll be worth even more. knock on wood that McCown or whoever is the starting qb gets hurt….just a scenario.
April 24th, 2014 at 2:58 pm
Look at the picture, I am sure the D-line just ran right past Penn! and Glennon is still trying to make a play/
April 24th, 2014 at 2:59 pm
So whats the powerball numbers this weekend Joes?
Man, you two provide too much funny on the anti Glennon front….its all good though. I remember the knocks I had on freefree when you guys were posting story after story to sign him to a long term deal (contract friendly, yup, many of us remember).
Mark my words!!! Glennon will probably take over as the season goes! I’ll pull for McCown and hope he’s lights out learning this new offense…but my money is on Glennon’s BRAIN!
April 24th, 2014 at 3:10 pm
@Brandon
Lol (I respect your opinion) but after watching the Carl Nicks video; I’m desperate. Especially when you consider the value a veteran of his caliber would bring the organization-As an All-Pro Zone blocking guard. I had to change my mind.
See Through The Film: Evan Mathis (Please Review)
http://www.neontommy.com/news/2014/04/see-through-ilm-evan-mathis
April 24th, 2014 at 3:11 pm
couple days ago reporters asked Lovie about Glennon. Of course on this was shown on TV. What he said was ” we have asked Mike to take a step back and get better. And he has done that “. Of course in the quest for the Little Johnny Boy or any QB for that matter we will leave those leave those little bits of information out
April 24th, 2014 at 3:26 pm
Get Glennon a decent line, serviceabile Rb and TE and cpl big WRs and he’ll light it up. Glennon will.absolutely light it up in preseason and we’ll have a controversy…
Having said that…well…Joe…. as the draft approaches.. and the more i watch Gruden qb camp with him… and the more articles you publish about him… and espn publishes about him…. i am aboard the JFF ship! We will be must see TV even more than Dallas. Hard Knocks is a lock with JFF, huge ticket sales, apparel and a buzz bigger than Tebownation. Im sold. I hate to admit it but I am.
April 24th, 2014 at 3:31 pm
Reports are JMac has a solid grasp of the offense already. Kafka and MG8 are even. If they draft Murray, not good for MG8. King also said he would cut back on buffets.
April 24th, 2014 at 3:38 pm
@Matt, Hard Knocks is off limits to the 1st year of a new Coach…but trust me, I would friggin LOVE it!!!! Man that would be awesome!!!!!!
April 24th, 2014 at 3:45 pm
Give Glennon a break. He earned it!
April 24th, 2014 at 3:46 pm
Licht could only get 2 6th rounders (one of them not even this year!) for quality starters in Zuttah and Williams. I doubt he could even get a 2015 7th rounder without wasting more picks to do it for “quality backup” Glennon. He has set the bar awfully low and other teams are aware of it. Besides, McCown will be gone in 2 years and Glennon is young, already has some starting experience, and doesn’t have a fat contract.
April 24th, 2014 at 3:59 pm
Getting rid of Glennon would be one of the biggest blunders in Bucs history. I doubt Lovie is stupid enough to get on the wrong side of history.
April 24th, 2014 at 4:04 pm
now is the time to trade him… the MGM sees something in Glennon, and here’s betting at least one GM/coach in the league sees it too. His stock is as high as it will ever be.
April 24th, 2014 at 4:17 pm
Remember your posts in these last 3 weeks Glennon haters, and Joes….you’ll change your tune soon enough….and Im laughing in the mean time….
April 24th, 2014 at 4:35 pm
King is assuming Zach Mettenberger is the kind of QB the Bucs want. After hearing Joe describe the drill QBs are doing, I think they want a more mobile guy. So that means Manziel, Bortles or Carr.
April 24th, 2014 at 4:38 pm
Aaron Says
“the only reason the Bucs don’t trade him on draft day is if they feel they are not getting value for him…”
Yeah…because Jason Licht has demonstrated the ability to get trade value for players.
April 24th, 2014 at 4:58 pm
As long as Licht can demonstrate the ability to build a winning team, I’ll trust how he values players vs. how much fans value them.
April 24th, 2014 at 5:09 pm
Really? If he cannot get proper value on our own players, what makes you think he has in FA or will in the draft?
April 24th, 2014 at 5:12 pm
Well I’d say he got very good value for Verner compared to Sam Shield and Vontae Davis (around $10 million a year each versus $7 million). Then again I thought he overpaid for Michael Johnson for sure. But time will tell. He did bungle Revis and Mike Williams undeniably however.
April 24th, 2014 at 5:17 pm
It doesn’t bother me in the slightest. I trust how this guy values them vs anyone posting here. Does Ozzie Newsome suck for trading Anquan for a 6th? People assessing proper value here means nothing. Let’s see how the team looks after 8 games.
Licht worked under a ton of great teams. I have no qualms whatsoever with moving any of the guys. I’m not emotionally attached to anyone.
April 24th, 2014 at 5:26 pm
And, I don’t mean that people assessing here as a personal affront to you. It’s just that in the scheme of things, 2-3 season down the road, if the team is good, this means nothing.
April 24th, 2014 at 5:28 pm
Proper value is what the market dictated.
Couldn’t trade Revis because no one would pay his contract.
Williams has no good tape for two years, and has questionable focus at best.
You can’t get any more than what another team will give for a player.
April 24th, 2014 at 5:34 pm
Lovie “Rex is my quarterback” Smith will choose the right QB for us.
April 24th, 2014 at 5:38 pm
Any effort to trade Revis ended when it was leaked they were cutting him. Say goodbye any leverage as teams will be patient and get him for free. Williams is just extremely poor value for a guy who is one of the best number 2 guys in the league.
As to Newsome, that was a horrible trade,no doubt. Difference is he has a lonh track record of success. Licht has no record at all.
April 24th, 2014 at 5:59 pm
Exactly. No record at all. 0-0.
Nobody wins games in April. Despite everything here I read about Dominik being a master of trades. It amounted to almost 2 losses for every win over 5 years.
April 24th, 2014 at 6:04 pm
Williams was nowhere near one of the best number two receivers in the league.
If that were true he would have garnered more than a sixth rounder.
April 24th, 2014 at 6:18 pm
Statistically Williams actually rates as a poor number 1 or good number 2. Averaging 900 yards and 7 TDs is very good for a number 2, his averages when healthy. People just wanna act like he’s not that good because he’s gone.
April 24th, 2014 at 6:21 pm
Shaun King, one of two QB that lost the NFC Championship game with defenses that gave up 11 or fewer points…
April 24th, 2014 at 6:42 pm
Glendon Lynch Mob never sleeps……copyright
April 24th, 2014 at 6:42 pm
“Que sera, sera
Whatever will be, will be
April 24th, 2014 at 7:08 pm
don’t cry if they don’t take a QB at all!!!!!
April 24th, 2014 at 7:09 pm
Actually it was 30 nfl teams that don’t agree Williams is good, as any could have had him for a fifth rounder.
April 24th, 2014 at 7:12 pm
king sucks! always has and always will!!!! LOVIE is all about the D so don’t be surprised if the first pick is defense,just saying
April 24th, 2014 at 7:18 pm
Keep Glennon! Dallas wants Manziel, hope they get him.
April 24th, 2014 at 7:49 pm
King is critical of Johnny Football and he no longer gets the “One of three quarterbacks to lead the Bucs to the NFC Championship Game” moniker.
Coincidence?
I think not.
April 24th, 2014 at 9:18 pm
King is the last one at the BBQ. Everyone else went home full.
April 24th, 2014 at 9:28 pm
Eric…there is ONE WR drafted in the same year as Williams that had more catches in their first 3 years. Dez Bryant had 200 catches to Williams 193.
April 24th, 2014 at 10:33 pm
Glennon was the best QB drafted last season and Ryan Mallett hasn’t hardly even played….Come on guys !!
April 24th, 2014 at 10:53 pm
Williams was a fine No. 2. A poor No. 1 but to say he was a bad receiver is about as ignorant as it gets. He sure as hell is better than any WR currently on this team other than VJax.
April 25th, 2014 at 12:22 am
If you look at total yards gained (running or passing) Glennon was not the top QB last year of his draft class. Wasn’t even close. The Jet’s rookie QB beat us from behind in the first game last year and Glennon never did it once all year. I would love it if the Jets wanted to trade their rookie for Glennon thinking he was the best Rookie QB. The Jets know better. That is just the delusion of the Glennon Mob! Glennon’s yard totals were modest because of all the short outlet passes since he was not mobile and his pass placement was poor and he didn’t have the guts to throw unless it was Vjax or another receiver wide open. He is a bust!
April 25th, 2014 at 7:11 am
Owlykat Says:
April 25th, 2014 at 12:22 am
If you look at total yards gained (running or passing) Glennon was not the top QB last year of his draft class. Wasn’t even close. The Jet’s rookie QB beat us from behind in the first game last year and Glennon never did it once all year. I would love it if the Jets wanted to trade their rookie for Glennon thinking he was the best Rookie QB. The Jets know better. That is just the delusion of the Glennon Mob! Glennon’s yard totals were modest because of all the short outlet passes since he was not mobile and his pass placement was poor and he didn’t have the guts to throw unless it was Vjax or another receiver wide open. He is a bust!
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Wrong. Glennon led the NFL in most yards gained through the air (i.e most of his yards came from the ball travelling through the air and not dump offs that the backs or receivers turned into bigger plays). If you wanna hate the guy perhaps get your facts right?
And the Jets love Geno so much they signed a guy they know isn’t going to make it through the season healthy to start. The only people who would take Geno over Glennon right now are the Bucs fans who hate Glennon so much. Jet fans would take Glennon over Geno in a heartbeat.
April 25th, 2014 at 7:12 am
The only quarterback we need to take is Johnny Football.
April 25th, 2014 at 7:28 am
In all seriousness Owlykat, what exactly did you expect from Glennon last year? And, last I checked, football is a TEAM sport, you can’t blame Glennon for ALL of our offensive woes.
I’m not saying to hand him the job, I just don’t understand your vitriol toward the guy.
April 25th, 2014 at 9:23 am
Almost all the vitriol I see directed towards Mike Glennon comes from this fanbase. I rarely see any from other fanbases. It’s really effed up.
April 25th, 2014 at 10:31 am
Yes, this is,BY FAR, the worst fanbase in NFL, and this site is one of the reasons.
April 26th, 2014 at 1:40 pm
Bucsfanman Said:
“Trading Glennon makes zero sense to me. In McCown, you have a career back-up with a few good games. If he’s your starter, you back him up with a rookie? I don’t think so because every starter is a hit away from the DL. Then, you are now tossing out the whole premise behind grooming your rookie QB. Kafka is not the answer, he has less experience than all of our QBs. With Glennon in the fold, and I agree with King here, you can take your time to groom that “franchise” guy we all crave. That is, of course, if Glennon isn’t the starter. If he is the starter(IF), the same applies to McCown. It’s a win-win.
You’re not paying Glennon a ton of money and he’s unlikely to garner much in the way of a trade. Why not keep him?”
Exactamundo. I just don’t see why people can’t understand this??? What if McCown gets hurt or sucks? Throw a rookie in there? How’d that work out last year? smh