Will Lovie Follow The Carolina Model?

March 5th, 2014
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Lovie likes how Bucs rivals invest

Lovie Smith already has told the world he believes in how the Panthers, 49ers and Seahawks are “set up to win football games.”

And Lovie said that’s how he was doing in business in Chicago and would continue operating in Tampa. Presumably, he meant investing heavily in his defensive front-7 and establishing a punishing running game. But what will it mean for the Bucs’ secondary?

Joe highly recommends the very intelligent and deeply informative video below by Mike Florio of ProFootballTalk.com. It dives into the cornerback market in free agency.

Of note is Carolina not investing peanuts at cornerback. Their top guy is Captain Munnerlyn, who won’t be considered a Pro Bowler anytime soon, and he’s expected to walk in free agency.

The Niners might let Tarell Brown go after his contract issues and a pick-free season, and Carlos Rogers hasn’t struck fear into quarterbacks in a few years. The Seahawks, of course, are another story.

Florio dives a little deeper into Darrelle Revis trade talk, and much more. Joe sees no reason to trade Revis, not until the Bucs see how well he fits — and plays — in their system. Plus, the Bucs have ZERO depth at cornerback, not yet.

20 Responses to “Will Lovie Follow The Carolina Model?”

  1. Buc1987 Says:

    It all starts with defense, how Buc fans don’t know this is beyond me. Teams can win with a top ranked D and an average offense.

  2. thegregwitul Says:

    This is true, Buc1987. 15 years ago, a team could win with a poor offense (see the Shaun King led Bucs offense for the best example), but they would only go so far.

    Now, so long as the team isn’t ranked in the bottom third in total offense, a strong defense can carry a Mike Glennon or rookie QB led offense so long as the team can limit mistakes and turnovers (duh).

    Again, Darrelle Revis needs to stay on the team, unless another franchise gets wacky and offers multiple first round picks, and even then, it’s not an automatic trade imo. Sign a pass rusher, bring in another veteran corner (Peanut, perhaps) and use one of the first three draft choices on defense and I think we’ll see a nice turnaround next season.

  3. INDYbucsfan Says:

    I would love to be I’m the same category as those 3 teams! I don’t care how we do it, we just absolutely have to start winning.

  4. SAMCRO Says:

    Will Lovie Follow The Carolina Model?


    Did Ron Rivera emulate Lovie Smith’s Model?

    Remember, Lovie fired Rivera in Chicago. –Joe

  5. Macabee Says:

    Or did the Carolina model follow Lovie? Ron Rivera was Lovie’s DC at Da Bears in 2004 and had the 2nd ranked defense in the NFL. You decide!

  6. Phillip Says:

    Ya and what happens when that D doesn’t show up and you are down 21 points in the 2nd half? Or when you are down a TD in the 4th and needing a TD to win the game.. Oh that’s right the defense will make that up.. Not good quarterback play.. Anything can happen during a NFL game.. Seahawks don’t make it to the super bowl without Russell Wilson making an amazing throw to a nobody receiver on 4th down against the 49ers

  7. zam Says:

    Captain Munnerlyn, Luke Kuechly, Star Lotulelei, Cam Newton… it’s no question this team has the best names in the NFL. All they’re missing is Cortland Finnegan or they’d have the whole set!

  8. Brandon Says:

    Pretty sure Florio called Aaron Hernandez, “Voldemort” just after 2:00.

  9. Buc1987 Says:

    Phillip has been a Buc fan for about 2 years now…

  10. Buc1987 Says:

    Phillip anyone can cherry pick 1 or 2 incidents and use them as a reference to argue for no reason what-so-ever.

    I guess seeing one of the greatest defenses in NFL history has been forgotten by some fans. Oh well.

  11. Buc1987 Says:

    Phillip if the Niners receiver catches that TD instead of Sherman tipping it for the INT…who goes to the Super Bowl Russell Wilson or Colin Kaepernick?

  12. lurker Says:

    one of the greatest defenses n nfl history? us?

    and yet we only won one suerbowl and didn’t sniff another. but defense wins championships, right.

  13. Phillip Says:

    Ya two years.. Your insults are seriously childish and make absolutely no sense .. They wouldn’t have been in that position to win it at all if it wasn’t for Wilson.. You are just proving my point even more with Kaepernick as well .. They needed a TD and he drove them down the field on that same vaunted defense to have a chance to win the game that’s what franchise QB’s do.. Not throw the ball away on 4th down to win the game.. Building Seattle’s defense didn’t take 1 or 2 years that has been a 3 or 4 year project along with getting extremely lucky with their draft picks falling to them and for veterans to want to take less to win a championship.. Throw Glennon on that team instead of Wilson and I can promise you no one would have taken less to sign there..

    Look kid no one in there right mind is saying a historically great defense doesn’t give you a really good shot at winning in the league I just have a hard time believing you can win a super bowl with a game manager because it’s not the same NFL anymore.. Unless the QB is on an amazing hot streak like Flacco was..

  14. stevek (MGM) Says:


    How has Tom Brady done in his last two superbowls?

    Teams with Defense win it all.

    You really think that by drafting a QB our D-Line and O-Line magiacally stop SUCKING?

    Come on now, lol, we need edge rush/OT at #7.

  15. Joe Says:

    Teams with Defense win it all.

    When has the No. 32-ranked offense played in the Super Bowl? Yeah, defenses win championships but if you don’t have a quarterback, doesn’t matter.

    Sure, the Crows won with Trent Dilfer. Hate to say it, but Joe doesn’t see the Bucs defense in the same area code as that Crows defense.

  16. Buc1987 Says:

    Phillip you have a hard time believing what you want to believe.

  17. Buc1987 Says:

    “but Joe doesn’t see the Bucs defense in the same area code as that Crows defense.”

    Joe…not yet.

  18. Joe Says:

    “but Joe doesn’t see the Bucs defense in the same area code as that Crows defense.”

    Joe…not yet.

    “Yet???” They aren’t even halfway there.

    For a team to try to replicate what the Crows did hiding a quarterback is, frankly, irresponsible.

  19. Phillip Says:

    “Phillip you have a hard time believing what you want to believe.”

    Huh? Do you mean hard time believing what you don’t want to believe? I’m not trying to be smart@$$(even though you do deserve it) I’m being serious.

    I stated facts in my comments.. If Wilson doesn’t make that throw game is over.. Then when game is on the line again but this time for Kap. He has to drive his team down the field and score a TD against this vaunted defense to win the game to go to the Super Bowl and that’s exactly what he did except for score… You can get all the turnovers you want but if you can’t turn them into points(2013 Bucs anyone? Mostly need a QB to do that right?) then they are essentially a punt..

  20. lurker Says:


    bucs had a great defense and only went to the superbowl 1 time, which they won. they had a great defense for years but only went once! ask warren sapp if you need offense. also, brad Johnson was way better than glennon.

    how the heck do you think our qb situation is resolved? glennon sucks, plain and simple. watch the tape. it wasn’t just because of bad oline play. he had poor arm strength, and they bailed him out on many passes. we spent money on o-line, high draft picks on d-line, and these can be addressed, if need be, in free agency. qb cannot be addressed there.

    glennon was the third qb taken in the weakest draft for qb’s in a while. he was drafted in the third round. that is not giving much to the position. qb is paid top dollar because it is the most important positin, not left d-end, not left tackle.