Trade Winds Blowing For Glennon?
March 19th, 2014
Joe’s hardly a fan of Todd McShay and helmet hair Mel Kiper, the BSPN draft gurus. Joe respects Kiper’s career accomplishments and, yes, these guys put in year-round effort on the draft, but their work is suspect at best compared to Mike Mayock and many of their draft-guru colleagues.
However, that’s not to say Kiper and McShay don’t have excellent sources and access to NFL decision-makers.
They travel to Pro Days and mingle with the scouts, agents, coaches and personnel that show up for these things. So it was noteworthy to Joe that Kiper mentioned twice during his BSPN podcast yesterday that he expects NFL teams to start seeking out Mike Glennon via trade.
Kiper’s belief is that the top quarterbacks available in the 2014 NFL Draft are deemed worthy of mid-first-round slotting, based on his discussion with NFL personnel people, in addition to his own work. And the availability of surefire, non-QB prospects, per Kiper, is likely to drive teams like the Raiders and Browns toward drafting one of them and seeking a cheaper, viable quarterback option elsewhere That fueled Kiper’s claim that Glennon could be that QB target and Jason Licht’s phone could start buzzing.
Somehow, Joe doubts Kiper pulled Glennon’s name without hearing it from a noteworthy source(s).
On the surface, it makes some sense. If general managers in need of a quarterback get spooked by not taking the best player available in favor of Teddy Bridgewater or Johnny Football, for example, then yeah, maybe teams look to Glennon as a guy who could compete and slot in well as an inexpensive backup at worst.
Joe, however, can’t imagine Glennon has much trade value. But maybe he does if your options are Matt McGloin, Terrelle Pryor or Josh Freeman?
March 19th, 2014 at 9:48 am
If you fling enough crap, eventually a piece of it might stick!
March 19th, 2014 at 9:48 am
Trade him for a fourth round pick
March 19th, 2014 at 9:49 am
He’s proven he’s worth what the Bucs initially paid, a 3rd round pick.
March 19th, 2014 at 9:49 am
It makes sense, smartest move Elway made was removing the fan’s ability to scream for Tebow. I could see Cleveland, Oakland or New England all interested. Glennon has 3yrs remaining on his contract, solid fundamentals, good leadership and work ethic. A 3rd round pick would take him, possibly late 2nd round
March 19th, 2014 at 9:49 am
One of the few Buccaneers from the Dominick era that actually have TRADE VALUE. what’s that say?
March 19th, 2014 at 9:54 am
L & L simply don’t want Schiano’s prized pet ( insert giraffe comment here ) is my guess. As Walter mentioned above…a 4th to replace the Revis ransom would be great but a 6th to recover the Carimi experiment may be more likely.
March 19th, 2014 at 9:55 am
I’m fine with that. All the more for johnny in my book
March 19th, 2014 at 10:01 am
Perhaps (per the photo above ) he could be reunited ( and it feels so good ) with The Donald. Clearly Glennon is under 30 and far too young for the Raiders but a swapping of 1st round picks sure would be nice :).
March 19th, 2014 at 10:12 am
They won’t trade him now. If Licht is able to draft a QB in the first round, they’ll try to trade him during the draft to a team who didn’t get a QB in the first. Otherwise they’ll wait. His value is probably a second round pick or better. Most writers (okay, okay, all except Joe) say that in hindsight Glennon should have been the first QB drafted last year.
March 19th, 2014 at 10:13 am
Trade him to swap first round picks with the highest pick you can get
March 19th, 2014 at 10:19 am
You people are insane.
First, only local fans believe Mike Glennon has value. The rest of the league doesn’t even have him on their radar.
Second, this is Mel Kiper, the draft “guru” that rarely gets more than 4 picks right.
And thirdly, I’m no MGMer by any means, but trading Mike brings back memories of the Bucs trading away Steve Young.
I want us to draft a QB in the first two rounds, but I want him to compete with Mike for the starting role. I’ve said all along, two chances are better than one.
And finally, no team want’s to trade with the Bucs this year. No one. We have an image of losing to shake first.
March 19th, 2014 at 10:19 am
Patriots will take him.
March 19th, 2014 at 10:20 am
A 6th round pick? No, goodness no. I’m not part of the Mike Glennon mob, but he was solid and has value to the Bucs as a backup, plus he’s on a rookie contract. With the NFL being a QB league, Glennon has to be worth at least what the Bucs used to draft him, a 3rd round pick. If all the team receives is a 6th round offer, then I’d keep the guy as a backup. He’s not a cancer in the locker room and from the perspective of a reserve player, you could do much worse.
Glennon and Tim Wright are basically the last remaining Schiano guys on the roster. Yeah, I’m not counting draft picks like Doug Martin and Mark Barron, but Glennon was a Schiano infatuation and Wright was a Rutgers guy. I could be mistaken, but I think they are the last of the Schiano Men, and I do believe Lovie and Licht are looking to really wash the Schiano stink off the Bucs, so I suppose I could see them taking less to move Glennon. If that’s the case I hope the cut off is a 4th round pick, because anything less isn’t worth moving a solid backup QB.
March 19th, 2014 at 10:23 am
I told a couple friends to be on the lookout for a Glennon trade when Thurston Howell’s wife gifted a career backup the starting job and Licht said we could be drafting a QB. Mrs Howell said we wouldn’t be carrying 3 QB’s into the season.
Joe,
Glennon is worth at least a 3rd round pick since that is where was chosen he played better than the 1st and 2nd round picks last year. He also set NFL records as a rookie QB. Something your franchise QB didn’t do in his rookie year. I know you were against the Freeboy pick. But it’s in the archives where you were calling Freeboy a franchise QB the week he was benched.
March 19th, 2014 at 10:27 am
I asked yesterday and got my answer today. Andrew Economos will not be brought back as long snapper. Bucs signed Jeremy Cain.
March 19th, 2014 at 10:28 am
Interesting idea. As the draft moves along into the 3rd round or so, if he’s better than the available qb’s, why wouldn’t another team make an offer? He didn’t show anything to say he isn’t worth the 3rd we spent on him, maybe better? Plus a year of experience. Also, we can afford to deal him if we grab another qb. That being said, we don’t need to trade him, he’s cheap, and lots of things need to line up for bargain seeking gm’s around the league to pull the trigger. It seems like every year there are lots of rumors about young backups being traded to new teams to compete to start, but it almost never happens (Cousins,Mallett currently). Thinking by the teams that own them must be that cheap qb’s that could play not terribly if called upon are worth keeping, so no reason to think Lovie & Light think differently.
March 19th, 2014 at 10:34 am
What are you going to do Joe when in 5 years Glennon is still in the NFL and Manziel is not?
March 19th, 2014 at 10:37 am
I have yet to hear am NFL analyst speak bad about Glennon actually they always speak high of his performance. It’s the local media that speaks low of him. A trade would be great for 3 rd round pick
March 19th, 2014 at 10:38 am
rdbucfan, if Joe talks negative, people here jump his case. Keep in mind that all the supposed rumors about Freeman did not come out until after he was benched, except for missing the team photo and arriving late to his own event.
I still doubt most of what is being said about Freeman. There is just no way for things like that to not leak out sooner than it did.
And for all of the issues to occur only in his final year? Either he did such things on purpose, there is something wrong with him, or most of the rumors are false.
And there were a LOT of false rumors about the Bucs last year.
March 19th, 2014 at 10:41 am
He’s a Ginger how can you put trade value on something that has no soul
March 19th, 2014 at 10:41 am
There are many non mobile QB that had worst first years and went on to have good or great careers and on top of that didn’t have 4th string RB AND WR And oline in front of them. Seek aikmen, manning stats yr one. Not saying he will be but does anyone really know yet.
March 19th, 2014 at 10:42 am
I’ve been known to enjoy a good horror movie from time to time. It would be quite entertaining and somewhat ironic to see the Raiders pick up Josh Freeman and trade for Mike Glennon. Kind of like an old Hitchcock movie!
March 19th, 2014 at 10:42 am
Freeman’s agent leaked all that crap to force his release. Notice the NFLPA investigation has vanished into thin air? Because of course the figured out Freeman’s agent was behind it all. And like the investigation, Freeman is close to disappearing from the NFL.
March 19th, 2014 at 10:43 am
MG8 is the NFL QB rookie of the year. I hope he is traded and becomes a top QB in this league. Tampa media, many Buc fans, Lovie, Licht, and the Glazers would all deserve that. MG8 is better than any QB in last year’s draft and this year’s draft. #Idiots.
March 19th, 2014 at 10:44 am
Would be stupid unless its for a 1st or 2nd rounder.
March 19th, 2014 at 10:45 am
Barry Says:
MG8 is the NFL QB rookie of the year. I hope he is traded and becomes a top QB in this league.
Not hard to be QB Rookie of the year when competing against and injured EJ Manuel and Geno “Pick” Smith
March 19th, 2014 at 10:51 am
“Thurston Howell’s wife”
rdbuc,
Thanks for the laugh. I’d forgot about that.
March 19th, 2014 at 10:56 am
So Davin and Donald have no trade value but Glennon does?
No, no. That cant be right. Glennon was all that was wrong with the offense remember? Lol
March 19th, 2014 at 10:59 am
Could be a grain of truth in the idea “IF” the Bucs draft a QB, especially in the 1st or 2nd round because I seem to remember Lovie saying that he will probably only carry 2 QB’s on the active roster. They wouldn’t put Glennon on the practice squad and the new staff has no ties to him so I could see the Bucs moving him under those circumstances.
March 19th, 2014 at 11:00 am
His Rookie year he had 19tds and 9 ints and broke several NFL records for passer rating so he has no trade value.. as you only have trade value if you throw 20tds so he just missed it ..Pete Prisco just wrote about Glennon in the Seattle Game last year and how well he played ….Boston radio wants the Pats to trade Mallet for a 1st or 2nd rounder and than wait for the Bucs to waive or trade Glennon for a 7th rounder …
March 19th, 2014 at 11:01 am
A: Dan Marino, Russell Wilson, RGKnee, Mike Glennon…
Q: Who are the only NFL rookie QBs to have 10 more TDs than INTs?
That anyone wants to flat out get rid of Glennon is simply mind boggling. And considering the Bucs rank somewhere between 29-32 in terms of NFL history at the QB position, you’d think such a horrific history would work in Glennon’s favor. Instead people are convinced every QB in this draft, they of 0 NFL games played, is better.
March 19th, 2014 at 11:02 am
Wouldn’t even listen to any offer for less than a 2nd round pick! A solid young starting caliber QB with a strong arm and a 19-9 TD to pic ratio as a rookie is worth at least a top 50 pick and maybe even a conditional 2015 pick too! And then only if we get a guy like Murray in round 2!
March 19th, 2014 at 11:02 am
Only in Tampa do we make excuses for why our QB won rookie of the year. It’s sickening to be honest.
March 19th, 2014 at 11:08 am
This makes no sense.
The Raiders and Browns are driven toward drafting a top flight QB, so they are trading for Glennon?
toward = away maybe?
Or maybe my reading comprehension is off today. (Yes, do re-read)–Joe
On the issue I think Gennon has less than 50% chance of being on the final roster.
And really that may be the best thing for him. Lovie clearly is not interested in him as a starter and has a history of being upfront with players.
March 19th, 2014 at 11:08 am
He came into the league as a 3rd round pick, started 13 games and didn’t totally embarrass himself in a remedial offense (both for him and defenses). He is worth at least a 3rd rounder, especially considering his low salary.
March 19th, 2014 at 11:09 am
Couch Fan Says:
March 19th, 2014 at 11:02 am
Only in Tampa do we make excuses for why our QB won rookie of the year. It’s sickening to be honest.
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In what world did this happen?
March 19th, 2014 at 11:13 am
Jeagan1999 Says:
March 19th, 2014 at 11:02 am
Wouldn’t even listen to any offer for less than a 2nd round pick! A solid young starting caliber QB with a strong arm and a 19-9 TD to pic ratio as a rookie is worth at least a top 50 pick and maybe even a conditional 2015 pick too! And then only if we get a guy like Murray in round 2!
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So many flaws with your post, where to start… Glennon DOES NOT have a strong arm, it is Brad Johnson-esque at best. He was the only QB at the Combine last season that couldn’t break 50 mph on the radar gun. How is that strong when others are hitting 60?
And you would only be okay if we got Aaron Murray in round 2? A short little QB with a blown out knee and average arm strength in round 2? Why not just draft a punter? Aaron Murray won’t have his name called before round 4. Your standards of what it takes to be a quality starter is the issue here, not trading Glennon.
March 19th, 2014 at 11:15 am
Glennon has a very manageable salary based on the rookie wage scale. The Bucs clearly don’t view him as their starter and there might be a team willing to trade a mid round pick to have him as a good back up option and a player still capable of developing. Glennon did a good job in a bad offense. I’m sure other teams have taken note of that.
March 19th, 2014 at 11:15 am
No way they trade him …Its one thing to miss in the Draft on a Franchise QB as many teams have ..Its another to have a Franchise QB bench and trade him away for little value …if Glennon were to go to Oak or Clev put up a good year and a playoff run while we muddle thru with a 35 year old career backup -they would look like fools and be run out of town …Glennon will be here .
March 19th, 2014 at 11:17 am
Yea I figured someone wouldn’t have the IQ to figure out that meant Rookie QB of the year.
Sorry Brandon, I’ll dumb in down for you next time.
March 19th, 2014 at 11:17 am
BuccaneerBonzai Says:
And finally, no team want’s to trade with the Bucs this year. No one. We have an image of losing to shake first.
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Based on what? Other teams don’t like to trade with teams that suck? That didn’t stop the Jets from raping us, or the Bears for taking our 6th, or the Pats from stealing Blount for next-to-nothing. Teams will trade if they are getting value. I just hope there are some GMs out there that are more in tuned with the stat sheet than the on field performances of Glennon and gives us the #3 we spent… and what he is likely worth. He’s proven he CAN play.
March 19th, 2014 at 11:18 am
Couch Fan Says:
March 19th, 2014 at 11:17 am
Yea I figured someone wouldn’t have the IQ to figure out that meant Rookie QB of the year.
Sorry Brandon, I’ll dumb in down for you next time.
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Yeah, you “dumb in” down for me, you freaking moronic twit. Say what you mean, jackass. If somebody doesn’t understand you because you have yet to master the English language, that’s your fault, not theirs.
March 19th, 2014 at 11:24 am
And BTW, being the best rookie of last season’s terrible group (probably the worst in a decade) of QBs is akin to an elementary school bus driver being the smartest person in the vehicle. Big freaking deal!
March 19th, 2014 at 11:24 am
Awww. Somebody got butt hurt. It’s ok Brandon get it all out you big tough internet warrior. Tell me again how dumb I am. Please. I beg you.
March 19th, 2014 at 11:25 am
Yes Brandon, you are so right. After all, multiple great rookies come out every year right? I mean, why the hell should we be proud of our QB rookie of the year. We should all just be whiny little bitches like you.
March 19th, 2014 at 11:29 am
See the thing with Brandon, and people like him, is they only ever think with emotion, which is the singular worst thing you can do. Step back and apply some logic and rationality and you’ll be better. Like referring to lasy year’s QB class as some tell tale sign Glennon sucks because he was the best.
If you wanna play that game, once again: Marino, Wilson, Griffin III, Glennon. One is a HOFer, one is on a HOF track, the other might have been if he didn’t ruin his knee. If you think Glennon sucks and is a scrub, your analysis relating to QBs is totally irrelevant. You’ve shown you know nothing.
March 19th, 2014 at 11:32 am
Careful Bucrightoff,
You’ll make him mad and pound the keys real hard when he types. I feel bad for that keyboard.
March 19th, 2014 at 11:36 am
If they do this trade I hope trade bites them in the ass ala Steve Young, Doug Williams. MG8 is a good QB with a great release, just needs some coaching and better O lline..Johny Football would be a huge mistake, we have plenty of guys who can run the ball. Don’t need Martin / James in the backfield for JF to scramble for three yards.
March 19th, 2014 at 11:37 am
Glennons Number would of put him as the best Rookie Qb 12 of the last 15 years so the bad class thing doesnt hold up ..
March 19th, 2014 at 11:40 am
“How is that strong when others are hitting 60?”
What others besides Logan Thomas hit a 60?
The VAST majority are mid 50s, and it’s an overrated stat. Zach Dysert was a 59. Brandon Weeden a 59. Stephen Morris, 59.
I’m sure it’s a useful component, but, let’s not make it some sort of dividing mark.
March 19th, 2014 at 11:42 am
It’s like saying Manning won MVP because everyone else had a down year. Even if its true, it doesn’t matter nor should it. It’s just an excuse to continue to hate.
March 19th, 2014 at 11:45 am
Buccanole Says:
March 19th, 2014 at 10:45 am
Not hard to be QB Rookie of the year when competing against and injured EJ Manuel and Geno “Pick” Smith
@Brandon
You can see that it happens and happen quite often. I’d be okay with trading him for the right price cause every player can be had for the right price. If not, let him compete for the starting job cause he earned it last year IMO.
March 19th, 2014 at 11:45 am
“If somebody doesn’t understand you because you have yet to master the English language”
Oh the irony! This from Brandon, who used the word “spelt” to admonish a poster’s spelling once. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!
March 19th, 2014 at 11:47 am
@lightning
That was “Philip”, unless he uses multiple names. I will never forget that one. STILL funny.
March 19th, 2014 at 11:48 am
Bonzai
The rest of the league doesn’t even have him on their radar.
That is what as known as hyperbole. It cheapens your post. Grossly overstating your point makes somebody question it, not believe it.
Clearly any number of experts, former players, and other NFL types have given Glennon high marks for a rookie season on a very bad team riven by turmoil of MRSA, injuries and a head coach in over his head.
Nobody is suggesting Glennon is the next Manning. But he’s not the next Freeman either.
March 19th, 2014 at 11:50 am
This is all speculation. IF there is any truth to it I don’t see trading him until the draft or after. It would be unwise to trade him before since we can’t possibly be sure who will be available to us in the draft when our turn to pick comes irregardless of what round it is. Personally I prefer we keep him but given the roster turnover so far anything can happen.
March 19th, 2014 at 11:51 am
BTW, Drew Brees throws at 52 mph. He clearly needs run out of the league.
March 19th, 2014 at 12:22 pm
the bucs have had no problem walking away from major choices made by the previous regime, if they’ll shop\cut revis i have no doubt they’ll take calls on glennon, but he is not without value. if licht can replace his missing 4th rounder or better he’ll probably pull the trigger. for anything less than where we drafted him at, i say he’s worth more in our ugly uniform than someone else’s even if they don’t think he’s “the guy”. i still think the kid has the right makeup to be successful, personally i am pulling for a nick foles type sophmore season that just shuts up the doubters
March 19th, 2014 at 12:29 pm
Trade Glennon… Dumb indeed!
March 19th, 2014 at 12:30 pm
@ Joe & brandon. Your disdain for Glennon blinds your objectivity about quarterbacks. Johnny pot, I mean football, will have no better rating for his rookie year than did Gleenon. If that’s not the case than I will leave this board and not bother You longer. Oh yea, Shiano is gone let it rest.
March 19th, 2014 at 12:45 pm
Glennons problems came from our terrible offensive line!
He works as hard as Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, plus he just as mobile if not more so, than both of them. His arm is weaker than theirs, but he can get stronger in the next two years.
Keep Glennon. Hes cheap. And will only improve on the sideline.
Hes not bad. I like him. I say we give him two years to watch and learn, put on some weight and muscle, and get quicker feet.
Glennon might be great in 2 years.
Nonetheless. I would love an extra third round pick.
As much As i hated Schianos military style. He had a GREAT eye for talent.
Thats why Belicheck trusts him.
And Belicheck is the greatest football coach alive.
March 19th, 2014 at 1:18 pm
Either coaching and coaching schemes last year was the problem, OR every last player on last year’s roster was a talentless schlub. If anyone was paying attention last season, they would know both are certainly not true. Glennon showed more than enough (as did a handful of others on both sides of the ball) to warrant a longer look under a new regime. The ONLY way I would trade him is if we decide Manziel is our pick (or possibly Bridgewater), but if neither, there are so many other areas of need that we can do worse than keeping him to compete for the starting job, and perhaps trading down and stocking up on receivers and linemen. My two cents
March 19th, 2014 at 1:19 pm
@Brandon…no “flaws” in my earlier post, just a flaw with your knowledge of football. To say that MG8 doesn’t have a strong arm is laughable. Obviously you don’t watch a lot of football. Why don’t you look at what coach Gruden said about his arm…”there aren’t a whole lot of guys on the planet that can make some of the throws…” that Glennon can. As for Murray, my point is that if we do trade Glennon (which I would not) than you better have a good young developmental QB ready because McCown and Kafka are not the answer! So instead of looking for “flaws” in other peoples posts, why don’t you learn a little more about football so you don’t come off as an idiot.
March 19th, 2014 at 2:01 pm
I would only trade him for a late 1st round or early 2nd round pick. Anything worse than that is not worth the risk of loosing a potentially great QB.
March 19th, 2014 at 2:16 pm
Let Glennon sit behind McCown for a while. He’ll learn a lot of things from him and our new coaching. Bet he shines.
March 19th, 2014 at 2:22 pm
“Joe, however, can’t imagine Glennon has much trade value.”
BuccaneerBonzai “First, only local fans believe Mike Glennon has value. The rest of the league doesn’t even have him on their radar.”
Greg Cossell did a film study on Glennon. Highly educational.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/greg-cosell-look-ahead-mike-glennon-done-very-021115946–nfl.html
Greg Cosell’s Look Ahead: Mike Glennon has done some very good things for Tampa Bay
“But what Glennon has done as a rookie can’t be ignored. I’m not suggesting he is on his way to being a top five quarterback, but he has manifested some traits and attributes that show he can play the position at a high level in the NFL.”
March 19th, 2014 at 2:25 pm
I am completely with you on all points of this article Joe. Especially on Kiper. Every time I see that guy on TV he just screams “Greasy Car Salesman” to me. And there is no way he pulled Glennon’s name out of his crack. This guy has probably watched one complete Bucs game in the last 12 years, that being the Super Bowl win.
March 19th, 2014 at 2:40 pm
“If they do this trade I hope trade bites them in the ass ala Steve Young, Doug Williams.”
The Bucs did not trade Doug Williams, they were out bid by the Oklahoma Outlaws football dynasty.
Culverhouse offered Doug a share in the Tampasphere skyscraper across Dale Mabry from Mons Venus. You know that giant building that never was built.
March 19th, 2014 at 2:49 pm
@ODB
Okay if you actually go back and READ the ARTICLE(imagine that) JOE said that QB’s who throw LESS THAN(key words there) 50 MPH(LIKE GLENNON) are not as successful as ones that throw OVER 50 MPH… So instead of trying to be a smart@$$ about Brees throwing a ball 52 MPH go read the article because you just sound like a dumb@$$… SMH
Here is the link because you are probably too lazy to search for it..
https://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=108058
Maybe also try clicking the link that’s in Joe’s article…
March 19th, 2014 at 2:56 pm
And to everyone making smart comments about Penn and Joseph not having trade value…. Ask yourself this question..
Would you really trade for a player on their contract when you can sign them to a longer deal with a lower cap number? Especially when you already signed their replacement?
Why do you think people are interested in Glennon? Dude had a decent season for a 3rd round pick and is on an extremely cheap contract with a new coaching staff that has no ties to him and we signed a QB and already said he is our STARTER…
Use some common sense people..
March 19th, 2014 at 2:56 pm
Worse case scenario that I’m fearing more confidently will happen: Glennon traded. Manziel drafted. McCown fizzles/gets injured. Manziel gets injured. We’re starting….umm…???…in week 8.
Keep Glennon.
Separate ??? should also represent a Marshall&Jefferys-less McCown & any rookie QB, since we have no clue how they’ll perform.
March 19th, 2014 at 3:18 pm
You actually want to do this again??
I was responding to Brandon’s post. Go back and read what I wrote. It had ZERO to do with any previous article on this site. Did you read his post? I’d like to know all the others throwing at 60mph (I’m still waiting on that answer). Did you actually see Brandon’s post?? or are YOU Brandon? (Both of you are quite disrespectful to other posters, so, it’s quite possible.)
And, as far as what Joe (or anyone) says, on anything, it’s an opinion, and I take it as such. He’s had as many bad opinions as any poster. He’s a guy with an opinion. So am I. So are you.
The point of including Brees’ 52mph is to show how ridiculous using one single facet of testing at the combine to prognosticate on their future. So, one guy, throwing at 52mph, will be in the HOF, but, another a whole 2 mph less is not worthy of being in the league? If you believe that, then all I can do is chuckle at you. Should we go through the list, and accent all the guys over 50 that absolutely suck? It’s a single factor in many factors.
And, don’t get me started on who sounds like a “dumb@$$”, Mister Spelt. Every time you try to respond to me, I’m going to remind you of who the actual idiot around here is, it’s you. So, save it.
Take a deep breath. This is an anonymous Internet comments section. This isn’t life and death. –Joe
March 19th, 2014 at 3:43 pm
@ODB
There is no point in talking to you but I’ll try one last time…
First of all Brandon said Glennon doesn’t have a strong arm and mentioned how QB’s are hitting 60 mph on the gun now.. Obviously he was referencing how Glennon threw the ball under 50 mph.. Unless everyone needs to type out everything in detail to you??? Second if you go back and READ the article it says 50 mph as the breaking point.. It doesn’t matter how many fail that throw OVER 50 mph it matters how many actually SUCCEED who throw UNDER 50 mph… Not one person said if you don’t throw 50 mph or more you won’t make the HoF just that QB’s who throw less than 50 mph(like Glennon) are less successful… Facts are facts kid.. How you want to interpret them is your deal.
Keep running your mouth behind a keyboard kid because we all know you got bullied in HS and take it out on people online now… So congrats
March 19th, 2014 at 4:02 pm
@philip
One guy hit 60. One.
And, thanks for completing Brandon’s thought for him.
So, if Glennon threw one single more mph, than he would be in a totally different category, do you realize how stupid that sounds? Whether a guy throws at 49, or 52 (like Brees), or 54, it’s one of many factors in whether they will be successful. And, I don’t care what the gun said, plenty of actual real life NFL experts think his arm is plenty live.
I love how you try to make this personal, talking about me. You are the guy going around insulting people. Many people. Repeatedly. I have the feeling you are STILL in high school and are STILL being bullied. I’m laughing at you, not with you.
I have not said jack to you since our last exchange. Unless you are Brandon, YOU chose to insult ME. But, by all means, keeping digging your hole, kid.
@Joe. – Hey man, I know. It’s like I have ignoramus attractant slathered all over me.
March 19th, 2014 at 4:47 pm
Glennon won’t be traded until we lock down Bridgewater in the draft. Then we’ll immediately start calling those teams that expressed interest and see what we can get. I doubt it will be higher than a 4th round pick though. Alex Smith could only net the Niners a 2nd round pick and a conditional 3rd (potentially 2nd). That’s after coming off a great year, and another very good year before suffering a concussion that launched Kaep’s career. Carson Palmer could only gather a 6th round pick from the Cardinals to the Raiders and the Raiders had to package a 7th round pick with Palmer. Tim Tebow got as high as a 4th round pick out of the Jets. Numerous other trades out there that show Glennon would not even warrant the 3rd round pick we spent on him in a trade. Sure, there were some QBs traded for higher picks, because idiots like the Raiders gave up to much for Palmer and the Vikings gave up too much for McNabb (2nd and 4th). There is no trade value for Glennon unless we can find one of those idiotic teams looking to bet the farm on a young kid that had a few statistical moments last year (and it was not in the W/L column).
March 19th, 2014 at 5:12 pm
its emberrassing the way glennon is getting ripped given how he had no help and his offensive line play was awful and he still put up decent numbers.
March 19th, 2014 at 5:39 pm
@ODB
Yes you caught me… I take the time to post on here as two separate people… I have a life unlike you where all you do is come on here and try and argue with people over and over again about Glennon… You are just a negative person in general about everything and it’s sad..
Every statistic has a beginning and end point to categorize QB’s and other positions into you do realize that right? You have to start and stop it somewhere or it can’t really be used to show anything… Take care keyboard warrior…
It’s sad when Joe even has to tell you to calm down btw
March 19th, 2014 at 6:00 pm
I thought you were going to stop replying, kid?
March 19th, 2014 at 6:02 pm
And we have been so smart with personnel decisions the last few years, let’s get rid of a promising young player for a role of the die. No wonder we keep making the same mistake again and again…let’s see…we draft down, draft Carr and two quality receivers, and see whether Carr or Glennon is the franchise QB of the future, or we can trade Glennon for one of the same two WR’s and draft a party boy, that many other GM’s don’t view is more than a mid round talent? Wow…that is a tough decision….NOT.
March 19th, 2014 at 6:04 pm
Mid first round talent…I don’t disrespect him that much.
March 19th, 2014 at 6:13 pm
How about we try to trade MG8 for Revis?!!!
Am I a genius or what?
March 19th, 2014 at 8:29 pm
Guy had a great rookie season and we just decide to start a journeyman….
March 19th, 2014 at 9:03 pm
False argument #1 to get rid of Mike Glennon:
The Bucs’ offense was ranked #32, last in the whole NFL.
Reason #1 why I hope they keep Mike Glennon:
The Bucs’ offense scored 288 points total for the year.
Over the first three games they scored a total of 34 points. 34/3 = 11.3ppg
Over the next 13 games, they scored 254 points. 254/13 = 19.5ppg
JF5 plus all the starters/first string = 11.3 ppg
MG8 minus MW, DM, MJ, etc. = 19.5 ppg!
tickrdr
March 20th, 2014 at 1:32 am
I do not think he will be around or OTA s
March 20th, 2014 at 1:00 pm
[…] Glennon was not drafted by Lovie and Licht. He was not promoted to the starting gig by Lovie and Licht. Lovie and Licht have zero invested in him. And if you believe helmet-hair Mel Kiper, the duo will take offers for Glennon from potential suitors. […]