Stock Dropping On Johnny Football?

February 14th, 2014

johnny football 0110Since the Super Bowl, every last prominent NFL analyst has had little to do but dive into film study of potential free agents and draft picks.

Of course, that is drawing a massive spotlight to the 2014 quarterbacks class.

The flaws of the big names are being articulated, as it becomes clearer that there’s no Andrew Luck/RGIII kind of prospect in the mix.

Uncertainty is in the air, and NFL Network talking head and former Texans and Redskins general manager Charley Casserly is even questioning the greatness of Johnny Football.

“Pocket discipline. When you watch tape on this guy, there are times I’m not sure what this guy sees. You’ve got guys wide open and, boom, he takes off and runs,” Casserly said. “He may be a victim of his (own) ability to make plays running the football, so he doesn’t stay in the pocket. I’d want to watch tape with him, what are you seeing, why are you running when you don’t have to run?”

Manziel did a better job of staying in the pocket as a sophomore in 2013 than he did in his Heisman Trophy season of 2012, rushing for roughly half the yardage in his second year as a college starter while showing more pocket patience. Casserly, however, wants to see more.

“Clearly the other thing, you’ve got to get a handle on this guy’s maturity. When he goes to the big city, it’s not going to be College Station any more,” Casserly said.

You can click through above to read more from Casserly and watch the video.

On the maturity front, Johnny Football did get a full endorsement — on and off the field — from a man who’s been partying for nearly 50 years, Broadway Joe Namath.

Regardless of the varying critiques, Joe’s on board with the Bucs making it happen to get Johnny Football. Regular readers here know this well. Joe, however, is not delusional; Johnny Football is not one of the greatest quarterback prospect of the last 20 years. But he is damn good, and he’s definitely the right guy at the right time for the Bucs.

 Joe’s actually excited by the heightened skepticism of Johnny Football. That can only help the odds of the Bucs landing him.

40 Responses to “Stock Dropping On Johnny Football?”

  1. SpanishBuc Says:

    As I’ve stated here before, I have no problem with us drafting Johnny Football,AS LONG AS, we don’t give up an arm and a leg to trade down.

  2. Orca Says:

    Greg Cosell had some comments pointing out doooshball’s inconsistencies, including games where the film has him looking like a player that’s undraftable. Say no to Johnny Doooshball. Even if he’s there at #7, I predict the Bucs will pass.

  3. Harry Says:

    As always, it will be interesting to see what happens. Can’t wait for the day we are more concerned about having a SB parade then the damn draft. Its fun to debate the draft and speculate, but when its the highlight of your teams season, IT SUCKS.
    Sorry, I had a moment of clarity, the drugs must be wearing off…

  4. Patrick in VA Says:

    True. I’d be much happier to be wondering what kind of value we’re going to get out of the 32nd pick and seeing what kind of trade value we could get for our high performing backups to move up to replenish and restock our shelves. But, as it stands this is our magical time of the year when everything is possible and there’s lots of hope

  5. SAMCRO Says:

    You’re MAD if you think the Alfred E. Neuman look-a-like is the answer to all our problems. And which ever way the Joe’s and his cronies want to spin it Johnny (Alfred) will still be the 4th best QB in our division, or 4th worst, however way you want to see it.

  6. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Does Joe really want Johnny Football or does he want pics of his chicks? Has Joe lost his lust for Rachel Watson?
    Maybe Johnny’s posing with all the chicks is an attempt to disguise that he is gay.
    Now that Michael Sam has come out….perhaps Johnny can join him in the parade…

  7. Kevin S Says:

    Harry, Patrick: As I lifelong Cubs fan, I am very familiar with the phrase “there’s always next year”, although typically we start using this phrase around May/June.

    All I know is that I would like to see the Bucs pick up a QB. Whether it be Vick, Bortles, Schaub, Manziel, or Bridgewater; someone needs to be added to compete with Glennon. As long as another quality QB is on the roster, then I’m fine with letting the best QB win. I simply don’t want to see the Bucs ride or die with Glennon alone.

  8. ROBERT6 Says:

    good to see this article. for a moment I thought yall broke up!

  9. mpmalloy Says:

    Johnny Football
    How I love him
    He’s got something that I can’t resist
    But he doesn’t even know that I exist

    How I want him
    How I tingle when he passes by
    Everytime he says hello
    My heart begins to fly

    I’m in heaven
    I get carried away
    I dream of him and me
    And how it’s gonna be
    Other QBs try out for for the team
    But I just sit and wait, I’d rather concentrate

    On Johnny Football

  10. MadMax Says:

    Barr please…..btw, we picked up DJ Moore

  11. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    @ Kevin S

    I agree that Glennon should have quality competion…I just don’t want us to give up the farm on a question mark.
    If one of those falls to us at 7…I’m OK…..I also like Schaub & McCown…..not high on Vick and hit has nothing to do with his past….it has everything to do with his questionable future.

  12. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Says:

    Johnny is a Texas Boy, the Texans need a QB, and hold the number 1 pick.
    Guess where he is going ?

  13. Jeagan1999 Says:

    Thanks, Joe for keeping it real!…Manziel has “Boom or Bust” written all over him. I have no problem taking a calculated risk on this type of player IF it the rest of the team is solid, and IF we don’t have to mortgage the future (i.e. give up multiple draft picks) to do it. Unfortunately neither of these two “IF’s” is the case right now. We need major O-line help, D-Line help (A speed rushing DE), a reliable 3rd WR, TE help, OLB (strong side) help and depth in the secondary. There is also no guarantee that Manziel/Bridgewater/Bortles will make it past pick #5 (HOU, CLE, JAX, OAK all pick before Tampa and they all have much less to work with at QB than we do), not to mention MINN and TEN who are just past the Bucs and who also may try to trade up for one of these 3 QB’s! It’s just not worth it at this point…spend the draft picks on fixing the other deficiencies we have (maybe even trade down a little and pick up an extra pick or two), and bring in a another veteran QB (Schaub, Henne, Mallett, etc..) to push Mike Glennon…who had a very descent rookie year and showed a lot of promise!

  14. Joe Says:

    “Alfred” sure pulls the ladies, though.

    /jealous much?

  15. mpmalloy Says:

    Sign McCown.
    He looked great in Cutlers absence this season.
    He may even beat out Glennon.

    All this JFF is giving me diarrhea and acid reflux.
    He’s a smallish partying rich-kid from Texas
    who will wilt in the NFL. Mark it down and draw
    a red circle around it.

    DRAFT BPA (hopefully Clowney)
    Go Bucs.
    Malloy has spoken.

  16. The 300's Says:

    Manziel will be the next Ryan Leaf (aka bust top pick). He is not focused enough and would prefer to live the good life. He is broke and partying now (and breaking NCAA rules Capt. Autograph for Cash), do you think it will get better when he is a making $10 million a year?

    Maybe if Raheem was still here they could meet at a local watering hole every night in SoHo for film study on their iPads. But Lovie don’t play that.

    We have way too many holes to fill for us to waste a high 1st on him.

  17. Bucsfanman Says:

    Harry and Patrick- No truer words have ever been spoken. I’d rather be talking about repeating as SB champs any day of the week. Such is the life of a Bucs fan!

  18. Bucsfanman Says:

    So let it be written Malloy!

  19. FB Says:

    Hooray JOE! Finally realizes that the savior for next season isn’t in this year’s draft. Maybe of the future, but all the QBs have been called developmental. Thanks to the rookie salary cap, you can now afford to develop a guy, even with a high pick, so long as you don’t hurt your roster by passing on guy who can contribute right now at another position.

  20. MTM Says:

    It would be great if Manziel was in a Bucs uniform. The games would be on TV with no black outs. But I understand why people are concerned about his maturity. Tampa has plenty of potential “distractions”. See what happened to the last drunken gay blade QB.

  21. DWE Says:

    mpmalloy, that was great. You must as old as me. lol. you need to finish he rest of lyrics.

  22. Fishfries Says:

    He’s going number 1. Book it!

  23. Oil Derrick Brooks Says:

    “he’s definitely the right guy at the right time for the Bucs.”

    So much wrong with this statement. No one even knows the offensive system. Impossible to surmise.

    I get why people are enamored with him, but, to me, he’s all flash and little substance. It’s like the hot stripper that you want a debauchery filled one night stand with, but, you certainly aren’t putting a ring on her finger.

    I’d love nothing better than a boring LT that will be on the team for 12 plus years. Not a sexy pick but a smart football pick. This team can’t handle another first round bust.

  24. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    yay, the next Ryan Leaf!

  25. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Off Subject….but we picked up DJ Moore CB. Moore is from Lakeland and played for Lovie….then the “Stinking” Panthers before an injury sidlined him.
    Perhaps there goes Michael Adams.

  26. PRBucFan Says:

    “and he’s definitely the right guy at the right time for the Bucs.”

    Negative ghost rider

  27. gcarr74 Says:

    Your Johnny football love is borderline stalker. Let it go Joe it’s not happening.

  28. Eric Says:

    Not a glennen mobster but man how can u keep pushing Johnny football there are red flags galore and you just want to keep ignoring them I personally do not think he going to be that good of a nfl QB and we are all guessing right now

  29. Buxfan Says:

    Johnny Manziel will not go number 1 overall. Maybe in the second round. Too many red flags. And if or when he falls down the draft board, it would be because of the scouting department doing there job. The Bucs will not touch Johnny Manziel. The Glaziers would not sign off on another potential head case. We could be wrong about him. I just don’t see the Bucs taken a chance on a player like him.

    I think this will be it for me on JBF till after the first round of the draft. As a business man, I respect what JBF is doing here. You don’t make money if you don’t have the traffic. Mike Glennon and Johnny Manziel is they need to write about. And traffic would go crazy.

  30. Buc1987 Says:

    “Malloy has spoken.”


  31. DontBucNH8 Says:

    I dont think there will be a run on QB’s in the first rd like all the analyst presume. If the Browns take Manziel it will be with their 2nd first rd pick imo. 2nd and 3rd rd will be were Texans, Vikings, and Raiders hit. They all have QBs under contract, may not be good ones, but they still have QBs were they don’t have to reach for one in the early 1st rd. Bridgewater will be the only QB taken in the top 10. I don’t think he makes it past the Jags because they will take him or someone will trade to get him.

  32. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    I predicted things would be said that would make him fall to use a month ago. This is just the beginning.

    Don’t buy into it. These guys are not always right.

  33. Barry Says:

    You want JM? Move up to Houston’s 1 overall. Swap this year’s 1 throw in next year’s 1 and M.Glennon. Houston would jump on that in a heart beat. They would then have their QB of the future.

  34. Architek Says:

    This is starting to creep me out Joe(s).

  35. BoJim Says:

    Charley Casserly is correct. JF runs when he doesn’t have to. He may fall in the draft but he’ll still go in round 1. Bortles is a 2nd round pick. 😉

  36. zam Says:

    ulch… why are you so eager to gamble? That’s not what a team that hasn’t been to the playoffs in 5 seasons should do.

    Remind me never to lend you money in Vegas.

  37. feelthepewterpower Says:

    Is it not hypocritical of Buccs fans/Joe Bucs Fan to want a party guy, yet condemn Freeman for his alleged (never been proven) off the field activities?

  38. Thomas Says:

    Shortly after this story leaks… a couple teams picking high in the draft (That actually have no interest in him) will all of a sudden fall in love with him publicly.

    Cleveland will then trade their entire draft to move up one space and take J Football. He will tear his MCL in the first practice and be out for the year.

  39. pick6 Says:

    Manziel just seems like one of those guys who will go down in flames and years from now everybody will claim they totally saw it coming. same sort of revisionist deal as ryan leaf & vince young

  40. pick6 Says:

    oh, and to a lesser degree (due to lesser hype outside tampa), josh freeman