Who Is Seeking Freeman’s Knowledge?

October 4th, 2013

Joe would love to know what future 2013 Bucs opponents are scrambling to sit down Josh Freeman and learn every last detail about the Bucs offense.

Freeman is a free agent; he can do or say what he pleases. And given that the Bucs surely don’t want to confuse Mike Glennon with all kinds of changes to the offense, Freeman could be a very valuable guy to any team lined up to beat the Bucs later this season.

Does anyone think Chip Kelly isn’t finding a way to reach out? Freeman is friends with Cam Newton and the Bucs play the Panthers twice this season. Ol’ No. 5 has a lot of buddies around the NFL.

Given how the Bucs and Freeman parted ways, Joe thinks it’s reasonable to think Freeman would be eager to cooperate and stick it to Greg Schiano. Joe hopes that’s not the case.

45 Responses to “Who Is Seeking Freeman’s Knowledge?”

  1. Bobby Says:

    I don’t think it takes talking to Josh Freeman to figure this offense out.

  2. Patrick in VA Says:

    Let’s not confuse the Bucs with the Broncos. The book is out on how to stop the Bucs. Watch what aqib talib and Patrick Peterson picked up on and replicate it. They already did the homework for the teams we’ll be facing. Freeman’s knowledge will only solidify what teams already know

  3. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    If he’s smart he won’t say anything without a contract in hand.

  4. Patrick in VA Says:

    He’s already being paid by the Bucs. He should just do informant consulting for each team that the Bucs play every week until a team signs him.

  5. Patrick in VA Says:

    Informant = independent

  6. Biff Barker Says:

    Psst, Freeman is the sole reason Chip Kelly is not on the sideline at Ray Jay.

  7. ROBERT2 Says:

    meh, bout the only think he knows about our offense is stare down MW and VJAX and hand it off

  8. jjuice Says:

    If Josh give away all the secrets we may become the 32nd worst O, Joe “C’MON MAN”

  9. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Great…..so we can add disloyalty to inconsitancy, lack of mental toughness, ADHD and all the other baggage Josh brings to his new job.
    And yes, even though he has been released…it would be disloyal & unethical to help other teams beat the Bucs out of spite.
    Now, if someone signs him, that’s another matter….you could excuse and expect him to inform.

  10. BucFanForever Says:

    I think it will be the other way around.

    Teams will bring in freeman to learn about the Buc’s offense, and as they are quizzing him in the various plays, Freeman will be shown how the play was supposed to work. That there were open receivers downfield that he could have thrown to if he looked their way, instead on tossing it at Doug Martin’s feet or some coach on the sidelines.

    So finally after a year and a half, freeman will know what he was supposed to do.

  11. BucFanForever Says:

    Hilarious, the notion that Freeman understood this offense is absurd.

  12. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Yea….he could tell them its RUN, RUN, PASS, PUNT!!!

  13. joseph mamma Says:

    Sullivan needs to learn how to get the playmakers the ball in space. Until he can do that, we will continue to suck.

  14. Free's A Boob Says:

    Free couldn’t figure it out how can he explain it? That’s one dry well.

  15. Splengo Says:

    The Bucs are scrambling to change the playbook now. First, they have to find the damn thing, then there going to have to find a stone mason to carve new stone tablets because Schiano nixed the IPads.

  16. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    @ joseph mamma

    Look for Demps to get more touches….

  17. WalkdaPlank Says:

    Disloyal? He’s not a Buc anymore he has no loyalty to this organization, especially after all that’s happened this season. And Freeman never said he was going to throw out info on the Bucs, this is just an article on JBF that says teams might be interested in his knowledge if they play the Bucs. So how can you add disloyalty when he has yet to commit the heinous crime? And ADHD is baggage? Its not some kind of terminal sickness that highly effects the way he plays. Freeman has had it since he was a kid, did you see people whining about his ADHD in 2010? Besides he is prescribed medication for it so even if it did effect the way he plays football, it tones it down.

  18. Patrick in VA Says:

    @tbbf – he was released. His loyalty should end when they showed him the door. He owes them nothing further

  19. Josh "couch surfing" Freeman Says:

    I’m not to worried. With the Bucs running the most basic offense in all the NFL right now, I don’t think Freeman is needed to figure it out which I’m sad to say as a Buc fan.

  20. Tampabaybucfan Says:


    Yes, it would be disloyal…like telling on an ex wife or leaving a company and divulging trade secrets.
    He is still waiting for $6 mil in termination pay….
    Do I think he would do this….hell no. And it is an insult to suggest he would.

  21. Capt. Tim Says:

    You’re kidding, right Joe??
    It’s the godd^*n Rutgers offense!!
    No short or intermediant throws. No TE, no Slot.

    Defenses figured it out two years ago! That’s whyy we had the losing streak, that continues thru today

    This is a direct quote from NFL X and so expert, Greg Bedard

    “And, in what has been a Greg Schiano staple since his Rutgers days, the Buccaneers’ scheme is outdated, unimaginative and too reliant on short plays. The short and intermediate passing game that is so crucial in today’s NFL is essentially nonexistent in Tampa’s system. It’s difficult to win without it. ”

    Don’t know what to add to that. This was posted here Wednesday, under “Rutgers offense”.
    The idiots will blame whatever QB we have playing. But it’s obvious that the scheme is the Problem

    Schianos scheme.

    No one has to “reveal” anything!! It’s the offense that lost games to UConn, East Virginia, and other tiny schools!

    You should goggle” NFL exec says Shiano is a bully”,
    That White Tiger mentioned.

    Tells you just how wacko Schiano really is!!’

  22. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    @ Patrick in VA….loyalty is a character trait that you obviously don’t have…No NFL team would appreciate a player randomly going around and helping other teams simply out of spite.
    Tampa could have pulled a “Keyshawn” on him and sent him home while keeping him under contract.

  23. DCBUCSFAN Says:

    That’s equivalent to trying to find out how to make a peanut butter & jelly sandwich

  24. Mark G Says:

    Please. No one needs Josh to find out how to beat the Buccs. Just have the game close in the 4th quarter and watch the Buccs beat themselves.

  25. delson Says:

    Ya’ll are stupid as fu ck players have been doing that since the begininng of time. Saying anything without a contract tho? Nah as many friends he has in the nfl he has more in tampa. When the pen hits that contract tho everything is open

  26. Patrick in VA Says:

    @ tbbf – his free agent status means exactly that. He’s free to work with any and all teams to better his financial situation if the teams are willing to pay for his services. This once a buc, always a buc approach you think he should have is silly. He’s responsible for doing whatever is best for him because he’s in charge of his career. Loyalty would be applicable if he’d been with the team for 15 years and they had gone above and beyond for him. This was a business decision on the part of the Bucs and now it’s time for Josh to be a business man for himself and make money wherever you can.

  27. Patrick in VA Says:

    @Dcbucsfan – well said. Perfect analogy

  28. Eric Says:

    Every team in the league wants to unlock the secrets to this 11 point a game offense.

    Nobody has been able to stop it yet.

  29. Patrick in VA Says:

    Philly might be the only taker on the schedule. Their defense is about as pitiful as our offense. It’ll be fun to watch the two college coach wunderkinds go head to head to see who can out lose the other

  30. snookau Says:

    Other teams are already sticking it to Schiano. They dont need Freeman’s help.

  31. givemeball Says:

    Freeman is Gone and I couldn’t be more happier..He is a spoiled brat and never deserved to be a first round pick. Cleaning Raheems mess up and getting these losers out of here. Love the Bucs and want them to win and will support my team and our head coach unlike a bunch of low class fans around here…Saying to Fire Shiano is about as dumb hiring Raheem!!

  32. Vincente Says:

    Get the all 22 film. A 10 year old can tell you what the offense is setting up to do. Just sit, watch and by the second quarter the bucs offense has been figured out. The sad part about that film is it looks the same until the last snap of the game. No adjustments. And then you schiano being stubborn and getting onto his team for running the same play over and over with the same results. On the other hand the defense look amazing. With as much passing that goes on in the league now this defense might top the 2002 championship defense. Not based on stats but execution. They are faster respond quicker. Giving all the new rules to defend the receiver they are doing great (except Goldson) the defense is great the offense is horrible. It’s tony dungy all over again. I loved Dungy but I can’t stand this clown.

  33. Love child of Gruden and Bea Arthur Says:

    Handoff to martin, 2 yards and a cloud of dust. Thats our playbook

  34. Bobby Says:

    There is no ‘schiano offense’. That belongs to Sully. It’s the Giants offense. Coincidence they are 0-4 too? It is however the Schiano defense and Sheridan has said that.
    I like the defense but get a new OC.

  35. givemeball Says:

    Your right Vincente, Defense does look amazing…that is all Schiano!!the clown you can’t stand.! give the guy some credit. sure the offense stinks right now but look who we had as our our quarterback. our defense keeps us in games and if Schiano turns the offense around like he did the defense were clearly a championship team..relax we will be fine!!

  36. Capt. Tim Says:

    If you don’t read anything but your own post- ya stay ignorant.
    Try again. Go up and about ten post, and read my post. It has a quote from an unbiased x and o analyst.

    It’s the Rutgers offense. Same as the one Schiano has ran unsuccessfully at Rutgers.

    God D^*m it!! How hard is it for you guys to read the post??? It was on Joe Bucs 2 damn days ago. Stated CLEARLY that we are Running Schianos offense!!

    Don’t be that +*^**< Dumb!!

  37. WinterSpringsBucsFan Says:

    At Capt. Tim

    I found this from 2011 –


    Schiano wanted a pro-style attack offense at Rutgers. Maybe things could improve if they fire Sully and bring in Cignetti? Or another OC?

  38. givemeball Says:

    HEY Capt Tims says. Who’s offense did we run last year???

  39. White Tiger Says:


    After 4 straight games where NOTHING changed with his offense – right down to the wrong routes being run, false starts, and offensive linemen NOT being able to figure out the SNAP count – someone responsible for writing about the NFL – ACTUALLY thinks ANY other team NEEDS to pick up the phone to ask Josh Freeman what Schiano likes to do in ANY down/distance situation?

    I’ll go out on a limb here: NO calls will be made to Freeman about SCHIANO’S OFFENSIVE STRATEGY…

    All they have to do is pull up any Rutgers tapes – or any of the FOUR losses this GENIUS has mangled his way through this season.


  40. PRBucFan Says:

    “HEY Capt Tims says. Who’s offense did we run last year???”

    I know right!!! Ahaha
    Must have been Schiano’s and not Sully’s offense that lead us to the 9th rank than…

    Lol what a tool..

  41. Capt. Tim Says:

    I usually don’t like talking to you directly,
    Because, well, sometimes you are an idiot. And I don’t like to waste my expertise on people who will never understand anything, except lapping at the feet of which ever imbecile is placed in charge.

    Number 9 offense sounds good! But what was our Record? What was the offense ranked in the last nine games??

    Do you know why? Don’t bother trying to figure it out-you won’t.

    As John Lynch pointed out( not gonna identify-just someone smarter than you!), the defense figured out our scheme. That’s why we had that long losing streak- that has continued thru today!
    You can watch the tape( well, not YOU!), and you can see the Cbs RB to the spot that Jackson or Williams was headed to. They sit there WAITING on our guys to make their Break!!

    They knew our plays to perfection- and were taking away our WRs.
    At least last year, we sorta had a TE and Slot Reciever.

    This year, Schiano was running the same pathetic offense, except he made it clear that he wasn’t planning to get a TE or Slot.

    No short or intermidiate routes. No one attacking the middle of the field. Only two WRs, running deep out routes. ( I know you didn’t understand any of that!)

    Freeman immediately asked to be traded out of stalag Buccaneer.
    Schiano refused. But drafted the pocket statue he craved. He split practice time between the two. This allowed neither to get a rhythm.

    Then the lil Emperor becan his smear campaign, hoping to get Josh to screw up- so the Bucs didn’t have to pay him.

    So, tool- let’s see how your slovenly devotion to Schiano pays off! We are 1-11 in our last 12 games. We led 6 of them, with 2 minutes or less left- but the lil Emperors piss poor coaching blew it.

    He wasn’t a winner at Rutgers, he won’t win he. And on top of that/ he’s an assh*+e too!

    Google”NFL exec says Schiano is a bully”( thanks White Tiger)
    See what the rest of the GMs and coaches think about your lil hero

    This guy has lost the locker room already. We are just wasting time not firing him

  42. PRBucFan Says:

    Oh the hypocrites these days

    They want to point out how great our offense was last year when worshipping Freeman but than turn around criticize it and how horrible it was when hating on Schiano.

    It’s not one way or the other, stop crying.

  43. andres Says:

    I’m sorry did you say, “learn the bucs offense?” How complicated is run, run, sacked?

  44. White Tiger Says:

    @Capt Tim – you’ve got it locked down. I remember fools defending Bennet and Perkins. You CAN fix stupid, it just takes more patience than I have.

    …but if they keep at it…this franchise will help them figure it out.

  45. Buccsfan76 Says:

    All he would have to do is hand over the box of crayons and the Mickey Mouse coloring book that Sully is copying from.