Schiano Disputes Neutral Zone Infraction

October 13th, 2013

With 3:04 left in the game and the Bucs trailing by one score ,(and a two-point conversion) 28-20, it appeared the Bucs had stopped the Beagles and forced a field goal attempt. Dashon Goldson had sacked Nick Foles for a six-yard loss.

But wait! No! There was a yellow (thankfully, not pink) hanky on the turf of the Stadium on Dale Mabry Highway. The Bucs were called for a neutral zone infraction where the nose guard (Akeem Spence?) lined up offsides.

Not so, said Bucs commander Greg Schiano. That is wrong, he said after yet another loss this afternoon.

“No, he didn’t line up in the neutral zone,” Schiano said. “That’s not accurate. What happened is he lined up then he inched into it, and the question is, ‘Did he get back before the ball was snapped?’ I’m anxious to see the tape.”

Well, Spence (?) sure as hell wasn’t called for pass interference. It gave the Eagles new life and they later added a field goal as a result, all but putting the game out of reach.

This is what is so perplexing about the Bucs. You have a hardcore disciplinarian in Schiano, and Joe is not against that type of a coach. But with a platoon of assistants and a hardcore coach, just how can the Bucs be so undisciplined, especially at the worst times?

Something is not getting through. Whether that is Schiano’s message or the College of Coaches, there is something missing between the message sent by the coaching staff, and what the players are hearing.

That fault, eventually, falls in the lap of the head coach.

26 Responses to “Schiano Disputes Neutral Zone Infraction”

  1. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    I can’t wait to see the first uneducated fan saying that Schiano isn’t the one committing the penalties. By that logic, nothing is the coach’s fault.

  2. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    And it is actually better for Schiano if he did line up in the neutral zone. How can you not tell your players that they clearly aren’t going for it and to not move an inch? Did anyone in their right mind actually think Philly was really going to go for it. And for the stupid people, let me go ahead and say it: they snapped the ball when they saw movement, so as to ensure the penalty. Think of a better excuse. But I know, it’s not Schiano’s fault. It never is.

  3. Tampabaybuctfan Says:

    Spence made a rookie mistake….it happens…we have seasoned veterans making mistakes…

  4. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    That didn’t take long.

  5. Killian Says:

    I can’t take much more of this! What a bad week, Rays get knocked out of playoffs, Gators lose to LSU, Lightning gets beat by Crosby and now the Bucs continue to suck.

  6. RealityCheck Says:

    Agree with Hawaiian. I was barely even paying attention on the play because it was obvious given the situation that they were just trying to get somebody to jump. The players seemed to be clueless.

  7. NJBucsFan Says:

    Winless for Wannstedt????

    At this point just fire Schaino and give me a top 5 pick

  8. Gt40bear Says:

    Why is it so perplexing? They have a QB coach who doesn’t believe in teaching fundamentals like mechanics, wouldn’t it be logical that they have line coaches that don’t believe in teaching fundamentals like, oh I don’t know, BLOCKING AND LINING UP ONSIDE?!

  9. BigMacAttack Says:

    There were many questionable calls today but so what? The NFL hates Schiano including the refs and he needs to go, NOW!!!

    This coach is a perennial loser.

    0-5, 1-10 of last 11, 7-14 overall. What is keeping this clown here? Who? Why?

    As a season ticket holder, I didn’t sign up for this. Change it please. Do anything and I care if it’s wrong, but stop this madness.

  10. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    Great post BigMac

  11. holymoly Says:

    Pitiful once again. You can’t fire the team so schiano has to go . How do the Bucs seem to get a holding call every time Martin has a good run. Someone needs to learn discipline and give fans something to give us faith. Cause this sucks !

  12. Adam L. Says:

    If I know th Bucs, they were off sides.

  13. Joke Says:

    Joe, the Goldson “sack” wouldn’t have forced a field goal attempt — it was 4th down. But of course, it wasn’t a real play be the Eagles — they only snapped because Spence jumped.

    If Schiano wants to talk about us getting screwed by the refs, there was a Foles pass attempt where he dropped back, got pressured, rolled out and threw it away two yards shy of the line of scrimmage. Should’ve been grounding.

    But we lost by 11. Even if either of these calls went our way, we still lose.

  14. rdbucfan Says:


    I agree, on the opening play 62 for the eagles basically bear hugged barron and threw him to the ground. On the Cooper touchdown, it wasn’t the push that was heinous. It was when Cooper grabbed Banks jersey and pulled Bamks behind him. You can see it clearly, banks is on Cooper’s inside and next thing you know Cooper is on the inside after the no call for offensive pass interference.

  15. ed Says:

    Even the refs hate this coach, because he try to bully them like he does his players

  16. Bucs2014 Says:

    Just shut up, Greg.

  17. jb Says:

    Bucs2014 Says:
    October 13th, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    Just shut up, Greg.
    No Shit! This Fool is 1-10 in his last 10 games and he’s questioning a neutral zone infraction? Bitch PLEASE………….What a L O S E R! Anything to take the light off of the disaster he & Dom have turned this team into!

  18. jb Says:

    11 games…DUH

  19. jb Says:

    ed Says:
    October 13th, 2013 at 7:21 pm

    Even the refs hate this coach, because he try to bully them like he does his players
    I believe you’re spot on! But, I believe it’s also because they hate having to explain NFL rules to him during nearly every game.

  20. Eric Says:

    This guy actualy sucks worse than Morris.

  21. ryan Says:

    When it happened I didnt think he jumped offsides. Still havent seen a replay so maybe he did.

    But it doesnt matter and its actually a good thing that he did. The only good that can happen from 2013 is Schiano being fired.

  22. jb Says:

    @ Eric

    Raheem was actually a really nice guy that was too young and over his head, and was hired on the cheap, not to mention, they gave him virtually NO talent to work with.
    Schiano on the other hand, has been given EVERYTHING he wanted to win. He even told us all he had everything he NEEDED to win. Just look st what he’s done with everything he’s been given…..He IS WORSE THAN MORRIS!!!

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  24. Harry Says:

    Joe, you know you make a good point. How does a disciplinarian like Shitzano have stupid penalties occur like this? If he is what he appears to be (disciplinarian) these things happen because of lack of respect and being tuned out by your players. This is the first sign, right?

  25. BigMacAttack Says:

    Exactly, offsides or not it wouldn’t have mattered. They were up by 8 even if they didn’t get the field goal. Is this offense really going to drive 80 yds with 2 minutes left, get a TD and then 2 pt conversion? What a joke! Not on Schiano’s birthday would that happen.

    This is a team without a true leader.

    Little Hitler just ain’t getting the job done, and as Clint Eastwood said “you have to let him go”.

  26. zam Says:

    perhaps if he had just had a chance to rush a few more kneeldowns today that also would have made the difference. RTK rush that kneeldown.

    That was the most block-headed penalty i’ve seen in a long, long time. But as others have said, it’s hardly likely it would have made a difference.