“Fire Everybody And Start From Scratch”

October 25th, 2013

Mark Schlereth of BSPN fame has very harsh words for the personnel moves of Bucs commander Greg Schiano, and he has very pointed words on how to fix the Bucs. In short, he believes the organization needs to be blown up and completely rebuilt in this BSPN video.

40 Responses to ““Fire Everybody And Start From Scratch””

  1. Buc1987 Says:

    Fire the cannons! Blow it all up and fix this DAMN mess Glazers. Dom’s not coming along for the ride either. Blow it up.

  2. Andrew 1 Says:

    start with the head coach at the very least. then once the season ends you make your decision on Dom. I dont have anything against either of them but… I think they both need to go.

  3. K_bassuka Says:

    Yep, seems that finally everyone’s on board. Fire Schiano and his clown show as well as the one that hired him…

  4. mark2001 Says:

    He isn’t the first one to say that, and won’t be the last.

  5. Warrenfb12 Says:

    Yes please. Trade McCoy anybody else u can get value for. #damagedgoods

  6. Andrew 1 Says:

    fans have to remember though if we do clean house, its not going to guarantee instant success, infact it may be tough for the first year or two.

  7. 911bucs Says:

    I was listening to Late Hit on Sirrius tonight and those guys said the Bucs looked very sloppy. Not much else they said was good either.

  8. Anthony Gironda Says:

    These are players we keep for next year: Darrelle Revis, Dashon Goldson, Vincent Jackson, Gerald McCoy, Lavonte David, Mason Foster, Doug Martin, Mike Williams. Theses players are the faces of the franchise.


  9. Bruno Says:

    I think this is a beautiful idea.

  10. Eric Says:

    It’s not tough now?

  11. passthebuc Says:

    Cleaning house is at least a 3 year project. Think about what you have and what you need. Starting at the top, if the Glazers still own the Buc’s you need a president of football operations. A GM, coach and staff.
    Next you need almost a new front line. My first pick would be a quality left tackle and center. Move penn to rt tackle or a guard. Glennon is serviceable during the rebuild because any QB is going to get beat around the first 2-3 years. Revis will go because you cannot afford 16 Mill p/y. Gholston needs to go as he too is expensive. so on the D, you need 3 new down linemen, 1 linebacker preferably a middle and move our middle to outside. You must have 2 quality corners. Banks better be a special teams Guru because he cannot do much else. Considering if your good in the draft you pick up 2.5 quality pieces per year. You will be a contender in 5 years and years to come if you do it right.

  12. SteveK Says:

    If the HC gets ousted, but the GM remains, then so does the problem.

    These guys are a package deal.

    Give Schiano the rest of the year, he really can’t lose us 16 in a row, can he? I want a win as much as anyone, and after last night I doubt we get one.

    Not one.

  13. passthebuc Says:

    And in the interim, change the name of the pirate ship to the SS Minnow.

  14. YourMom Says:

    Colts, Chiefs, and 49ers did it in one year. As long as you have a real coach and a real quarterback, you can be a playoff team. It doesn’t have to take three years or more to start over.

  15. Eric Says:

    Dungy did it right here in one! With the help of a great general manager.

    But he had Brooks, Sapp and Lynch to start.

    We’re in such sad shape I figure at least two to three years, if they get the right GM/coach combo.

    One big problem is that Jackson and Revis don’t have a long shelf life. Likely not gonna be a part of the rebuild. Along with our aging and crappy o-line.

    In reality this mess isn’t gonna get cleaned up anytime soon. But, if everyone sees progress it can be a fun ride back to being competitive.

  16. Buc1987 Says:

    Not holding my breath.

  17. Andrew 1 Says:

    @ passthebuc

    I was thinking more along the lines of cleaning house with the coaching staff and front office, not necessarily the entire team lol. but it just all depends on what the new coach thinks of our current roster, he might decide to get rid of some of those players you were talking about.

  18. Buc1987 Says:

    Okay then draft a lineman in the first round and Waste it for Winston in 2015.

  19. Anthony Gironda Says:

    We’re not getting rid of Darrelle Revis because he’s too good of a player to give up and there’s no other cornerback our there (besides Richard Sherman & Patrick Peterson) that’s better than him. Even though he’s not 100 percent, he will be better next year. We just need a new coach & a new defensive scheme. Revis is not a zone coverage guy, he’s a man-on-man coverage guy. Revis is here to stay.

  20. Cmurda Says:

    I keep refreshing JBF.com but still no sign of a Schiano firing. Crap guys, my computer must be broken.

  21. Cmurda Says:

    You guys talking about blowing up this team are really overreating. This team is not a rebuilding team. It’s a team poised to win now and is in a contract friendly situation with a young core. Blowing up would be stupid and counterproductive. Now, take a good swig of your favorite adult beverage and answer these questions in your head. Do you realize how many Pro-Bowlers are on this team? Have you watched this coaching debacle? Seen our schemes lately? How many watched the game last night? Remember Revis getting beat for a TD against Arizona. No, that didnt happen. Us being in a zone with Revis? Yes, that happened. A million dollar a game Cornerback who is in fine shape and looks great in man to man is in a freaking zone. The D Line is running a bunch of merry-go-round stunts. McCoy is a beast. Stop the stupid ass stunts.

    Fact of that matter is with a good coach and a well-designed plan from competent coordinators, we would be 5-2 at worst. Far too much talent on this team to blow up the big pieces we have. Some act like V Jax is so easily replaceable. OK, he’s had a few dropsies but the guy is a total stud and will have well over 1000 yards receiving again without a good QB. Get rid of Revis? That’s so asinine that I’m not even going to address it. A Darelle Revis comes along once every 10-15 years.

  22. zam Says:

    Cleveland and Buffalo seem to blow up everything on a regular basis too. How’s that working out for them?

  23. Macabee Says:

    I agree with Cmurda. This team needs surgery, not detonation. This team simply needs an offensive-minded coach and new offensive and defensive scheme. Most important is this coach and the toxic environment that currently exists at the Bucs. Above all that must be changed. The team is ready to win with a few needed additions like receiving TE and pass-rushing DE. Glennon will have the remainder of the season to audition for the QB job.

    It’s not likely and perhaps even unfair to fire a coach that has enough games remaining to turn his season around. If we lose to the Seahawks as I expect we will, then my best guess is that we will get some kind of an announcement following the Monday Night Football game should we lose against the Dolphins. The record would then be 0-9 with no possibility of a winning season.

    Just like yesterday, another day long regurgitation of everything that has gone wrong during the Schiano era on all of the major sports networks followed by the nationally-televised embarrassment of another Buc loss will be too much humiliation for the Glazers to bear. Anything longer than that would be considered cruel and unusual punishment for Schiano and the fans!

  24. Splengo Says:

    I like that surgery idea!

  25. Mike Says:

    Give us your opinion on this one. I mean ok, so we fire the coach and his massive staff, we boot the GM, and then what? I agree that all of it has to be done, but how high up does this mess stem from. We have been a borderline competitive team for maybe one year over of the past decade +. And even historically over the history of the franchise, we have not been good, being only one of a few teams having 6 or so 0-7 starts to a season. Sure the things that come out of schiano’s mouth and some of the head scratchin schemes he runs and his interplayer relationships, not to mention his attack on the victory formation, clearly state he is in over his head. As Brooks said a few weeks ago, it is the coach’s responsibility to get the absolute best out of his players, and it is very much safe to assume schiano has not done that w a player on this roster. And yes the rock star has to go as well. He’s had some great draft picks but also a lot of bad ones (he should just pass when coming time to choose in the second round and save the team the cash – Lavonte being the sole exception). A lot of the trades and FA signings have been bogus: trading a RB one year removed from a 1000 yard (half) season for a 7th rd pick?! Having an embarrassment of riches affords you to progress your team, not donate to charity. Gaining nothing from the loss of a former 1st rd pick qb in a league with a lot of teams very interested in his services bc you choose to pursue a smear campaign?! Bogus Joe! And I’m leaving out the fact that talib is now the best thing since sliced bread in New England… And this isn’t even including dom’s time during the Rah era. I think he used up his ninth life after the Raheem Morris show as he could have very well been shown the door along with Mr Morris, and in some sense should have been! Choosing schiano should have been his last chance to suffice for a failed previous era.
    I see incompetence on all levels… But again, with them gone, will it really get better? It wasn’t all sunny days before they got here. Is it something that is wrong w the Glazers? Is there a flaw in their philosophy? I need to get your opinion, because although it might get better w a new regime, you can’t tell me that regime will be walking into the doors of a winning franchise with a championship MENTALITY deep in their DNA.. And can that ever change?

  26. Illuminati Says:

    [Long post. I’ll chunk it out, since maybe Joe’s filters have a word count limit.]

    @ YourMom

    Colts, Chiefs, and 49ers did it in one year. As long as you have a real coach and a real quarterback, you can be a playoff team. It doesn’t have to take three years or more to start over.

    Exactly. Coach and QB is all we need.

    Obviously, a new head coach means a shakeup across the whole coaching staff.

    I like Glennon, but not enough to say he can be a franchise QB. But who cares? He’s at least already demonstrated that he can play well enough to manage games, and even win some if our defense wasn’t giving up 31 points every week, so at worst he’s a backup with considerable upside. I’d rather have that than an aging veteran backup QB with no upside any day.

    Rookie QB contracts ain’t they what used to be. We could wheel-and-deal and get two good QB prospects in the draft if we wanted to, and have a three-way competition between those two guys and Glennon to see who starts in 2014. Maybe that scenario would finally yield a franchise-type QB for us.

  27. Illuminati Says:


    As far as GM, I don’t know enough about the ins-and-outs of pro football administration to evaluate an NFL GM’s performance. I’ve never sat down and evaluated every GM’s draft hits and misses, free agent hits and misses, and financial acumen. Personally, I don’t care if Dom stays or goes. It’s easy to blame the coach when a team is losing, but evaluating a GM is a little trickier, since all GMs have different levels of actual decision-making power, and the relationship dynamic between a GM and ownership varies widely from team to team. That’s the Glazers’ call.

    This team has enough talent to be competitive, no doubt. Yet, we’re not getting it done. That’s largely due to schematic deficiencies and poor coaching decisions during games.

    As far as talent, though, I hate it when people use the Pro Bowl as the gold standard for performance. Who cares how many Pro Bowlers are on a roster? Most teams have several. Who cares if a guy got voted to the Pro Bowl four years ago because he had a really good season, or maybe just because he’s popular? That has no bearing whatsoever on well he’s going to play now.

    This organization has had a boom-or-bust mentality for too long. We’ve tended to gamble on players that have issues because we think we’re going to hit the jackpot instead of just drafting good, solid football players. We’ve done that with our coaching hires, too. Let’s find a good coach with solid NFL experience, and start adding solid football players to the roster, and maybe we’ll be respectable again.

  28. Illuminati Says:

    @ Joe

    See ya. I’ve always the liked the site, but you’ve just permanently lost a loyal reader and frequent commenter because of your site’s clumsy comment handling.

    I’m sure you guys aren’t developers, but I am, and this is an easy fix. So, fix it.


    Don’t let your mouse hit you in your server. –Joe

  29. Curmudgeon Says:

    Seriously, there’s no reason to blow up the roster. This team is an 8-8 club with decent coaching. There is plenty of talent. Any new coach is going to want his own guys, so there will be some turnover, but let’s not start dumping guys like V-Jax. It’s not a rebuilding that’s necessary. This ought to be a desirable job for any new coach because of the talent base.

  30. Paul Says:

    The part about shipping off our good players because they aren’t “Schiano Men” is what stings most about this narcissistic blow hard sticking around.

  31. mindyr Says:

    the Bucs have a long history of not having a god QB and for awhile not a very good coaching staff

    you know I wonder if the Bucs would like to give Revis back to the Jets for Richardson and that high third round pick this draft not knocking Revis but they need the young players

  32. jo mama Says:

    Do you remember how the team quit on raheem. Everyone said we needed a hard nose strict guy who was not going to be their buddy. EVERYONE said that. We got that coach and now he is too strict?

    Bullsh!t, personally I dont care if a million dollar athlete does not like his boss. Welcome to the real world. Do you think players actually like bill belichek.

    do what your told give 100% and don’t drop the god dam ball.

    however the coach needs to win.

  33. JH Says:

    This guy really hasn’t watched much Bucs football. The player he named really aren’t good or have too many problems… I’m fine with them no longer being here.

    I do agree that we should fire everyone. It’s too bad it hasn’t been done already.

  34. BucsQcCity Says:

    Now that they won’t throw a mega deal at freeman, there’s still a lot of cap space available to buy quality depth at about all the position. No need to go into misery mode for the next 5 years.. We can be competitive right next year

    I would keep Revis because he’s good and playing good. 16M$ good? Probably not but until we can have another solid CB we will get hammered each game. At least if we let him play 1 on 1 every game, safeties will give help to our other side.

    Either we keep Goldson or Barron. I like hitter but we need a ballhawker.

    OL is a mess and need instant upgrade. We need to stop looking at the career stats and look at the tape. Nicks has to go he will never get a 100% recovery

    DL is not as bad as it looks but I have a hard time judging the guys because they’re just running around instead of winning 1 on 1 battle. TEo is backup at best.. I would like to see Bowers on the field on every down this season to see if he can become good. 6 plays a game won’t help anyone to take a decision at the end of the day..

    Glennon is ok buy if we can draft a franchise qb next year (Bridgewater, mariota, Manziel), we need to do it..

    We need to get a great TE and an Ok 3rd receiver. Page didn’t impress at all last game when he had its opportunity and Crabtree isn’t as good as advertised.

    VJ is an interesting case. He’s a beast no doubt and I think they’re at least 2-3 years of quality production left but this year he had so many drops and he look pissed all the time.. I would keep him but I would understand if we go in another direction.

    Coach, GM needs to go. Dominick didn’t win anything and most high draft picks are not on the team anymore. If we release Revis, then it’s another lost first round pick. He’s good at managing cap space. But beside that, there’s not much on the pedigree. Coaches needs to go there’s no point to give more proof for this.

    Finally bring Brooks as the President of Football
    operation. Make a push for Zimmer as HC. He knows defense which is still the strentgh of the bucs.

  35. Morgan Says:

    zam Says:
    October 26th, 2013 at 12:22 am

    Cleveland and Buffalo seem to blow up everything on a regular basis too. How’s that working out for them?


    Good question. Common denominator = both haven’t had good
    QBs for ages. Funny how a QB all of a sudden can make a team’s coaching staff much better.

  36. Adam L. Says:

    It seems extreme but it makes perfect sense. DC doesn’t known how to use Revis. OC is murderin and overusing Doug Martin. Head Coach cant manage a game. GM can’t evaluate talent. Mark hit the nail on the head.

    It’s an extreme solution but there’s an extreme problem.

  37. mark2001 Says:

    We have a great deal of good, highly paid, old talent, often injured. We have some good young talent still making the mistakes of youth. There is little in the middle because of poor to awful personnel decisions…draft, etc.. We miss far too many times. Just hiring a new coach isn’t going to get the job done. And think for 10 seconds…what good veteran coach will step into the coaching position with the situation we have here…..none. We need a Vet coach with success at the highest levels,hired by a strong GM that will make solid and sound drafts…..unless you want to test the College ranks again and gamble another two or three years.

  38. joseph mamma Says:

    To everybody that thinks this team is so talented…..what talent do we have at defensive line? Mccoy is the best we got and how many sacks do we have? After Mccoy we have squat. What about the offensive line? Our offensive line blows too.

  39. BucsQcCity Says:

    Spence and Clayborn are good. Its the other DE + quality depth and pass rushet specialist that is missing. Bowers needs to prove himself on the field, not in Schiano twisted reality where Teo is better than Bowers

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