A Word About Negativity
October 24th, 2013
Joe often takes shots from various sources that claim Joe is too negative. Those cries are fervent now.
Joe offers a simple comeback: If the Bucs weren’t getting beaten regularly, then Joe would be much more positive.
In other words, don’t shoot Joe for being down on the Bucs for losing 11 of 12 games and extraordinarily underachieving. Joe doesn’t coach, play or select players. Like a majority of fans, Joe is happily thinking about the promise and hope for the Bucs’ future — a future that includes a new head coach. That doesn’t make Joe a villain.
Make no mistake, Joe’s hate mail and naysayers don’t trouble Joe at all. It’s ok if people are upset by what’s written on these pages.
In fact, Joe also has taken all kinds of grief for being too positive, such as supporting the ousting of Chucky, to expressing that Raheem Morris was doing a great job in 2010, despite some fans thinking that was a phony 10-6 record, citing nonsense of a lack of “signature wins.” Joe’s also is blasted routinely for sharing positives of rockstar general manager Mark Dominik. Joe took grief for not jumping on the Mike-Williams-and-Gerald McCoy-suck bandwagon a couple of years ago. Joe even is blasted for supporting keeping Greg Schiano as head coach for the remainder of 2013, assuming the team doesn’t visibly quit. Joe could go on.
There are lots of ways to be a Bucs fan. Joe doesn’t tell anyone how to support the team.
As long as you, like Joe, cheer for the Bucs when the whistle blows, then you’re a good fan. If you think Joe isn’t a Bucs fan, then you’re not paying attention.
For those who think Joe somehow benefits financially from the Bucs’ demise, well, that is thoroughly inaccurate and laughable. Yes, a controversial happening will create more traffic here on a given day, but the Buccaneers producing quality football is what truly drives the passion and interest of casual and hardcore fans, and creates new Bucs fans.
A good, beloved Bucs team is what Joe craves. Go Bucs!
October 24th, 2013 at 11:17 am
For all those that think that Joe is all negative, Just ask about the Pop-star.
October 24th, 2013 at 11:21 am
I really do feel bad for the players on this team. The big positive is that they have not quit on Schiano like Raheem’s team quit on him. Just keep playing hard fellas, better things are coming
October 24th, 2013 at 11:22 am
Well said. It’s your site, you can present the material in any light you want! I don’t need you to agree with me and vise versa. I love joebucsfan and will visit regularly for Bucs news and insight. Keep it up!
Joe, what happen to the Stephen White takes???
October 24th, 2013 at 11:23 am
Go Bucs!
October 24th, 2013 at 11:25 am
@ Joe
Keep calling them as you see them. If we all think you are wrong, we will all let you know
October 24th, 2013 at 11:26 am
I don’t think there’s any need for you to defend yourself like this especially when, I would guess, over 90% of Bucs fans actually agree with your take on the Bucs being 0-6. If one wants rainbows and smiley pies go to http://www.buccaneers.com or go on Twitter to talk about how #itsabucslife is something that is awesome right now.
October 24th, 2013 at 11:27 am
At this point, if you aren’t embarrassed and negative i have some MSRA bandages you can use as a cold compress for your head!
October 24th, 2013 at 11:27 am
best footaball site on the planet hard times for buc fans… but go bucs through the peaks and valleys
October 24th, 2013 at 11:29 am
Hey, I’m with you Joe; I never was on the McCoy / Williams stinks bandwagon, I thought that was classic overreaction by certain parts of the fanbase. I was a Schiano supporter until maybe the second loss of this season, as I’m sure you were, and now I’m with you in regards to keeping Schiano until the end of the season, so long as a credible new coach is brought in.
I think Mark Dominik has done a good job providing the team with talent. Clearly something happened along the way that led to Josh Freeman falling down the rabbit hole, but I think the Glazers need to clean house and move Dominik to a different role after the season, something like a cap manager. Hire a team president or bring in an experienced coach/GM package. Clean the locker room, literally this time, so players aren’t missing time with MRSA. I’ve said it again and again; this team has the talent to turn it around like Kansas City has done. The Bucs could very well be the Chiefs next season with the right coaching staff in place. Schiano isn’t the guy. Maybe he turns it around like Bill did when he left the Browns and was hired by the Patriots, but the damage has been done and it’s too much for any one man to overcome; Greg Schiano needs to go.
October 24th, 2013 at 11:35 am
Dear Joe,
I was editor of our high school newspaper and I took some heat for ripping our football team when we started the year 0-5. We got all kinds of complaint letters about my “negativity” and I even got some physical threats directed at me that no doubt would be taken very seriously today.
My journalism teacher’s response was : “Newspapers don’t write stories about planes that take off safely from airports.”
I never forgot that.
Adam L.
October 24th, 2013 at 11:38 am
Joe,
I’m not going to lie. I get annoyed with you often…but I never doubt your loayalty as a Bucs fan.
We are living through crazy times as bucs fans…it’s definately easy to see why the majority of articles written will seem like they have a negative slant to them
Having said that…I think that no matter how bad this coaching staff is there are a bunch of players on the team that are busting their butts to try and right the ship… it would be nice to hear about those guys from time to time.
October 24th, 2013 at 11:42 am
Most of my friends who are Bucs fans have completely given up on the season I can’t even get anyone to go with me tonight.
October 24th, 2013 at 11:47 am
Hey Bucs, want some positive coverage???? GO WIN A GAME!
October 24th, 2013 at 11:48 am
Joe,
You wrote this earlier this week:
“Joe wants a damned good draft slot. Winning games for the Bucs at this point is like going to a clothing optional establishment where you can’t touch the hired hands. I mean, what’s the point?”
So, when you say “Go Bucs” ,are you wanting them to win or lose tonight?
Again, Joe roots for the Bucs when the whistle blows. Would Joe love it if the Bucs could draft the best QB available in 2014? Absolutely. –Joe
October 24th, 2013 at 11:56 am
Your articles bring out the emotion in us Buc Fans. Regardless of what people say, thats all that matters. I think your doing a good job Joe. Even if you are still a member of the Freemanites. Lol
October 24th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
I don’t think your negative enough. However I realize if you really spoke your mind, no one in the Buc’s organization would talk. Heard your broadcast yesterday with the big dog and you are spot on regarding the firing of Schiano now. It would serve no purpose aside from supporting someone’s ego. The end of the year will be soon enough. Regarding Dominck, I just think he is mediocre, today. Maybe he gets better as time goes on and that’s ok too. We disagree on the QB situation as I think Glennon is serviceable and will improve. our needs are more glaring than QB. we need 2 new linemen starting with LT and follow with a center. Move Penn to the right side. We need receivers and a tight end that can block and stretch the field. (I have no problem with Williams, I did have a major problem with Free.) Also to my Christmas list, I want 2 corners that can tackle and cover, not high on Banks. Ownership should be taking this time, between now and year end to look for coaching replacements. They also, like Dominick, get low marks in hiring. From Chuckly till now, it has been throwing shit on the wall and hope it sticks. I think they need a president of football operations that overseas the GM and Coach’s. The Schiano debacle hearkens me back to Old Notre Dame when they reached into the high school ranks and hired the Moeller coach, Gary Faust. Notre Dame never recovered and neither did Faust.
October 24th, 2013 at 12:43 pm
Joe uses an obviously dated reference for Dominick. Tell me the last time any media was clamoring for him that was comparable to a rockstar.
“Teflon Dom” is far for apropos.
October 24th, 2013 at 12:44 pm
How did this team win 7 games last season with less talent?
October 24th, 2013 at 12:59 pm
Hey, hey, Tampa Bay, the Bucs know how to shine
Hey, hey, Tampa Bay, the Bucs know how to shine
If we’re in trouble, that’s okay, ’cause we can pull it out
Because we know we’re on the top
When we stand up, stand up and shout
Hey, hey, Tampa Bay, the Bucs know how to shine
Hey, hey, Tampa Bay, the Bucs know how to shine
Give a cheer for the Buccaneers (Go Bucs)
Give a cheer for the Buccaneers (Go Bucs)
(Repeat and fade)
Hey, hey, hey, we’re the Buccaneers
Ho, ho, ho, we’re the Buccaneers
Offense, defense, now we’re here to say
Make the Packers walk the plank
Throw ’em in Tampa Bay, hey
The second song came in versions for every
October 24th, 2013 at 1:32 pm
I swear I’ve never seen so many fairweather fans in my entire football-following life. What ever happened to supporting your team, win or lose. Many of you deserve exactly what you’re getting – you don’t support the team unless they’re winning. Anyone can do that. I’ll be damn if I go to the games and boo the team like a lot of you. Go Bucs.
October 24th, 2013 at 1:35 pm
Joe wrote, “There are lots of ways to be a Bucs fan. Joe doesn’t tell anyone how to support the team.”
I have been told repeatedly not to mention “The Gauntlets” or “The Little General”, coaches handing out Adderal or point out the mediocrity of Greg’s miserable record at Rutgers.
That’s really not accurate. –Joe
I have been attacked, cyber bullied, warned, banned and censored repeatedly. Sometimes my comments are even removed after they are posted. My only crime is being early in my criticism but usually correct.
Actually, your crime is posting all kinds of stuff that forces Joe to invest his time to monitor your comments for lies, misrepresentations, etc. Again, Joe is responsible for the words and messages in your comments. Joe does not have the time to waste/invest, therefore you are censored. –Joe
I am not allowed to participate in any conversations in real time and can not participate in the live game threads. Ouch!!
See above. –Joe
I have been a Buc’s fan since Day One. My business career has taught me the difference between a competent leader and some one who pees on my leg and tells me its raining.
I even hated Dungy, I knew instantly that he was a dismal failure. New owners opening the checkbook were responsible for his success in Tampa and Peyton in Indianapolis.
I have tried switching allegiance to another team but is doesn’t stick. (JCP)
October 24th, 2013 at 2:01 pm
I think I’ve answered my own question. The team that won 7 games won 6 of those games early to mid-season. Somewhere after those 6 wins is where Schiano lost the team. That has to be what happened. They are not winning now, because they are not buying in. Some of these dropped balls by receivers look awfully catchable. Hell even Jackson who caught that bomb from Glennon last Sunday looked surprised that he caught it. Almost like he did not want to catch it, but had to. I’m just saying, they may look like they are trying because they have to. Who knows if these holding calls are not being done intentionally? It’s not conspiracy thinking, it’s just random thoughts that have been running in my head recently. So I thought I’d share them with ya.
October 24th, 2013 at 2:10 pm
Morgan 0-7 is going to get you boos. No matter what team or which stadium it is the way it is. Hell even Pat’s fans were booing them early on in the Bucs- Pat’s game and they had winning record. I’m talking about booing the 0-7. I won’t boo until the final gun though. I haven’t booed all season yet, but tonight’s the night. I’m booing the 0-7 team that I paid 1,300 bucks this season to see win. It’s my 1300 dollar reason to boo.
October 24th, 2013 at 2:30 pm
And I’m not done. Let me add this when the team is on defense. I’m loudest fan in the stadium. Whether the Bucs are 10-0 or 0-10 or down by 14 with 6 minutes to go, I don’t stop hollering and banging on the seat in front of me. The Saints game I had bruises on my thumbs from banging the seats so hard all game long. So there is no fair weather fan in me. Passionate? Oh yeah.
October 24th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
What better things are coming Patrick wow are you brainwashed or just a f moron
October 24th, 2013 at 3:27 pm
Morgan is right some fans don’t care or there just something wrong with them
October 24th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
When an if he gets fired then the players will talk and I think most of us will be shocked
October 24th, 2013 at 3:46 pm
Buc1987, your comment regarding last year’s collapse after the 6-4 start reminded me of the similar collapse in 2011 after the 10-6 2010 and 4-2 start. The team went to London early, played well for a half or so and then pfffft, 10 straight losses. If you take the 6-4 away, this team has otherwise won 1 of 22 games. What on earth explains that? It really seems like something happened on that London trip. Hmmmm.
October 24th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
Oh, and Joe, this site is fantastic thanks to you. I only discovered it recently and now spend way too much time here. Thanks…I think.
October 24th, 2013 at 4:35 pm
I agree, Joe, that it is your blog and you can do what you want, as others have said.
However…when all they see is negative, the more positive fans take off. Before long, all you have is complainers. Case in point, look at the comments on ANY article.
We all know the Bucs are sucking right now. There is no denying that. But we also need a reason to keep being fans.
You don’t even have to be 100% positive. What most of us are looking for is “constructive”.
Here’s an example…Sapp made some comments that could easily been featured in one negative article…but we get them split into two. Double the negative.
Again, it’s your blog. And if you want to have nothing but trolls here, I guess that’s your prerogative. Otherwise, the others need reasons to stay.
October 24th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
Bucs Fan Since ’76 Says
“If you take the 6-4 away, this team has otherwise won 1 of 22 games.”
Hey, let’s just take all the wins away and say this team has NEVER won a game…
October 24th, 2013 at 8:24 pm
Sorry I wasn’t clear BB. My point was that we have suffered a ridiculously disproportionate amount of losing lately, so let’s put it a different way: 2009-2013 record is 24-46 overall, a 34% winning percentage, with losing streaks of 6, 5, 10, 3, 5, and 6 games along the way. That is an institutional failure not just coaching.