Joseph Says Bucs Weren’t Ready For Noise

September 9th, 2013

Captain Davin Joseph goes deep into the Bucs’ communication troubles in hostile territory at the Meadowlands yesterday, via the WDAE-AM 620 audio below.

Unfortunately, Joseph explains in detail that the Bucs didn’t prepare well enough for noise. Keep in mind the first-half safety, a signaling foul-up between Jeremy Zuttah and Josh Freeman, cost the Bucs dearly in the one-point loss.

“There were a lot of things that were happening in training camp and in practice that kind of caught up with us. It kind of opened all of our eyes really. And so we’ve got to fix it. We’re going to take this week and really work on our communication even though we’re home. And just really working hard at being able to communicate in the noise, being that in our own division we play at New Orleans, at Carolina, at Atlanta, and it’s really loud so we have to be able to communicate in the noise. I don’t think we did enough to be ready for [the noise] and that’s what I mean by it caught up with us. Our focuses were on the cadence and we needed to be able to go silent count. We weren’t focusing on that very much so it kind of caught up with us.”

On the upside, Joseph says his body feels great — Joseph missed last season with a blown knee — and he’s fired up about the Bucs’ “hard-hitting” defense “that’s going to win us a championship.” (Click the button below.)

131 Responses to “Joseph Says Bucs Weren’t Ready For Noise”

  1. Raphael Says:

    Winning streak , you heard it here first . This team will circle the wagons and get it together ….Just cover Sproles this week fellas …GO BUCS !

  2. Raphael Says:

    Winning streak….you heard it here first…

    Bucs will circle the wagons …..GO BUCS !

  3. Buc1987 Says:

    “Bucs Weren’t Ready For Noise”

    Fortunately for Drew Brees and the Saints they won’t have that problem at RJS, the quietest stadium in the NFL.

  4. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    Don’t exactly scream details, being prepared, or great coaching does it?

  5. Snook Says:

    Ugh. Really? Not ready for noise in a historically noisy stadium?

    These coaches are a joke.

  6. bucfanjeff Says:

    so he’s basically saying they didn’t work on a silent count. Are you kidding me?

  7. WestCoastBucsFan Says:

    But Schiano said they were “very prepared”. Hmm, wonder how they could be “unprepared” for the noise while being “very prepared” but “too excited” to play?

    That must be it. They were too excited for the noise. Joseph must have misspoke.

  8. Kirk Says:

    Crown noise? Whatever, our quarterback is a pussy.

  9. Buc1987 Says:

    Jets fans have passion and show it. Their team could be 2-8 at the time and their fans are loud as hell. The Bucs could be 8-2 and about 40% of the fans that actually do go to the game just sit there and not make a peep when the Bucs D is on the field. Pathetic fan base.

  10. WestCoastBucsFan Says:

    Joseph directly contradicted Schiano by saying they were ill prepared for the noise. I really don’t see how this can be a good thing.

  11. WestCoastBucsFan Says:


  12. Chef Paul Says:

    Wait a minute. During TC Joe wrote on here every day that they had crowd noise pumped in. Really? Still wasn’t prepared? cmon

  13. Harry Says:

    bad coaching. And now we are going to spend this week working on something for the following week. Maybe next week we can work on the game plan for the Saints… I know, its the first game. But haven’t we seen things like this too many times before?

  14. Splengo Says:

    I love you Davin, but the only way I can buy that is you are referring to the Jets as Noise. Perhaps as a nickname of sorts. Noise 18, Bucs 17.

  15. Chef Paul Says:

    “Our focuses were on the cadence and we needed to be able to go silent count.”

    And why cant the coach just say “OK it’s loud, go to silent count” Do they need a refresher before every away game? I feel like its too simple. Maybe I’m over simplifying it.

  16. pelbuc Says:

    Sounds like Schiano has worn out his welcome with his”Buccaneer Men”. When your captain says they were not ready, that speaks volumes. I now believe Schiano with his great “discipline” mantra did a snowjob on the Glazers, Dominik and the fans but now we are seeing he’s not a pro caliber coach. Not the first time Bucs were outplayed by a rookie QB. First RG111, then the great Nick Foles and now Smith. Pathetic.

  17. RBellBuc Says:

    Yeah^^^ I’m with Harry … The hell with the coaching staff. In fact the hell with all the terrible Tampa fairweather fans. They should just move. They will never be appreciated even in my book as long as they can’t win every single game and Josh Freeman never ever makes mistakes. That’s bullcrap. He should be held to a higher standard than the elite QB. He’s not allowed to make mistakes as far as we are concerned. If they don’t beat NO I gonna quit being a fan… Schiano is the worst human being to ever grace the head coach’s position in Bucs history. The dude is evil and seems to not have MY best interest at heart. Off with there heads … on ..and on…

    Welcome to VEGAS!!!! BABY!!!!

  18. Patrickbucs Says:

    Buc1987: where are your season tix located at?
    Pretty loud where I sit, have u traveled to Miami,
    SD, Atlanta (most the time)? Hasn’t been much
    To cheer about. You make it sound like u a worldly
    expert on fan bases.

    The Jets had trouble selling out last year and would of
    had some black outs if Woody didnt but up the
    extras plus they dropped pricing big time.

    Like most cities when the team is hot the fan base is as well,
    Bucs haven’t been in a long while.

  19. BFFL Says:

    The OL is over rated

  20. Patrickbucs Says:

    Also to add, saw decent amount of red in the stands yesterday and not much green on their final drive. Real fans

  21. SeanyMac in SC Says:

    Gee I thought the helment told Josh to throw the ball at Martins feet. Maybe its all the voices in the helmet. SMH.

    Playing in a noisy place is an easy to fix. Why the Bucs weren’t prepared for the noise is a whole other matter. NSO better right this ship soon.

  22. Couch Fan Says:


    Dont you know BucFan1987 is a REAL fan and knows it all. He created the definition of a “real fan” and if any opinion differs from his expert opinion… well, clearly they are all wrong. Because he is ALWAYS right.. Just ask him.

  23. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    What is up with all of the high school excuses? Our vets weren’t use to noise? I guess they have absolutely NO experience to go on? Doesn’t say much for our coaching staff, vets OR Team Captains. LMFFAO…and it is only Monday.

  24. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    Wait until PFT gets a hold of this story/interview. We WILL be the laughing stock of the NFL again.

    Is it too early to “Tank for Teddy”?

  25. Skelly Says:

    Communication….blah, blah, blah. We all saw that play out in realtime. Nothing new. After being angry as a hornet all night I rewatched the game this afternoon, and while I don’t have the coaches tape, etc. What I did see was shocking when slowed down on multiple plays. Davin looked like he shouldn’t have even been out there. He played horrible and think its clear he is not ready to play yet. Anyone who still has the game recorded, go watch the play in the 2nd quarter at 7:56. delayed screen to Martin that should have been at least a 15 yard play. Only 1 linebacker to block and then open field. Davin engaged him then got thrown on his ass. The LB tackles Martin for no gain. I love Davin, but no one is talking about how terrible he looks right now….. Not good.

  26. canadianbuc Says:

    If true I don’t think its possible to blame freeman for that………I would not be surprised if some do but i think that would fall under the coaches job.

  27. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Its true Davin was not ready for the noise. He’s been injured, remember?

    I can see people are still in panic mode. Gotta love Mondays. I’ll check back tomorrow. Even Joe #2 is freaking.

  28. SteveK Says:

    Schiano didn’t do a good job, but to give Freeman a pass for being outplayed by a rookie in his NFL debut is not acceptable.

    Freeman hit less than half of his passes. Had a passer rating of 67.9, compared to Geno Smith’s 80. Free had a QBR of 22.5 to Smith;s 48.5.

    The eye test also shows that Smith outplayed Freeman.

    Ultimately, Freeman’s poor play throughout the contest allowed for LVD’s mistake to cost us the game.

    Go ahead Freeemanites, hide behind Joe and that slanted tally whacker Deumig as much as you can. Freeman needs to snap to, excuses are GONE.

    THE JETS SHUT FREEMAN DOWN PEOPLE. Think about that. Tony2Cents, you’re skull phucked out of your gourd if you think Freeman is to receive excuses for mediocre to subpar play.

  29. Raphael Says:

    Stevek ….lol. If only you knew anything about football

  30. Raphael Says:

    Freeman gave us the lead with 40 seconds left ….jets had NO timeouts….our defense lost this game , plain and simple….grow a pair and admit it…

    Just like 4 games last year when we had the lead … fact

  31. Raphael Says:

    Lmao at Freemans play ” allowing” lavonte’s mistake ! Lololol

    What a retard !

  32. Bucnjim Says:

    Am I missing something? I’ve read most of the posts for the last two days and haven’t seen anyone saying Freeman played good or even well. He played bad just like the other 21 starters. Defense had some good plays, but most of them cost the team 15 yard penalties. The one thing that is a fact (and I love L. David) is with 5 seconds left the Jets could not have won w/o the penalty. Good thing is David will make more game saving plays this year than he gives up.

  33. RichBucsfan Says:

    Who is responsible to PREPARE the team for noise and everything else that might occur in a game (i.e. communication system in QB’s helmet, opponents strengths, an offensive strategy, a defense that is aware of the rules, just to name a few)

  34. Patrickbucs Says:


    Been a while since I posted, u r correct though. Don’t think he’s left his local neighborhood to make a judgement. Check the nfl every year lots of empty seats throughout the league. Difference is their owners buy them up

  35. RBellBuc Says:

    ^^^^Difference is their owners buy them up

    That should be the biggest hint that the Glazers are no longer enamored by Tampa Bay.

    Welcome to VEGAS!!!!

  36. Pete 422 Says:

    I’m a glass half full kind of guy, but not bring prepared for noise going into that place (or any road game) in inexcusable. That is a win the Bucs had to have & they blew it. They’ll have to pull an upset down the line to make up for it.

  37. blackmagic00 Says:

    Eagles are really good so far. Chip>Greg. what is it with the bucs? I’m on the west coast and have pretty much never left Cali in all my 35 years. why do I love the Bucs soooo much? Guess I’m a gluten for punishment. anyway Go Bucs!

  38. Chef Paul Says:


    If anyone is giving anybody a pass it’s you. A pass on every other person that is hired at OBP. Get your lips off of Freeman’s jock. He is not the only player on this team. Jeez, I’ve never seen anyone so obsessed with one player before

  39. buc4lyfe Says:

    So easy to game plan for a predictable offense, so all Rob Ryan has to do to get ready for it us. is call his brother if they know how teams try to stop us where is the counterattack? If we have the same offensive output will people start blaming coaches then? Give Freeman a real nfl head coach

  40. Buc1987 Says:

    Patrickbucs …if you go to the game this Sunday. Look around you when the Bucs D is on the field. There are many and I mean MANY Buc fans that just sit there quiet when the D is on the field. My season tickets are in section 150, where I will be trying like hell to get the fans that just sit there to atleast make some kind of sound when the D is on the field, although it will be like mission impossible. I’m still going to try.

    RBellBuc…LOL I know what your doing and it’s absolutely hilarious. To tell you the truth though from what I have read on these threads in the last 24 hours, your hilarious overzealous points about moving the team out of Tampa, because of the fans makes damn good sense. Pathetic fan base.

    “We make fun of the Jaguars all the time for having a tiny, nonexistent fanbase, but the fact is that the Jags sell 10,000 more tickets per game than the Bucs do.”

  41. Buc1987 Says:

    @Couch Fan where are your seats this Sunday? On your couch at home listening to Deckerhoff like most of Tampa Bay?

  42. Robbie_G Says:

    10 plus years with no playoff wins, at what point does the franchise take responsibility? We made it past the Man U is more important years, now they spend money but we have to ” settle” for Schiano? I don’t know my fellow fans, we have the right to feel upset or let down.

  43. buc4lyfe Says:

    This is a playoff team. if you were the owner and not a fan what would you do if your coach didn’t have faith in jf5 but no guts to pull the trigger on the rookie. Your paying butch Davis to help the coach prepare but no results and you’ve spent money on a playoff team but you have experienced coaches out coaching your team in your division?

    If they had the balls to fire chucky and dungy….hmm I’d demand results if we fail gm and coaches are out and lovey Smith is in, make Freeman and glennon battle for starter, if free losses, that’s an easy trade to make

  44. Buc1987 Says:

    Patrickbucs…oh and I’m NOT talking about selling tickets either. I’m talking about the fans that actually do go to the game. It’s almost as if 40% of the fans don’t know that they are supposed to be loud when the other teams offense is out on the field. BUT just type away like I’m making it up or something.

    As for anyone else, when and IF you go to the game this Sunday or any other Bucs game this season. Look around you. Look at how many Buc fans just sit their in silence when the Bucs D is on the field. I’m not making this crap up. It really happens and it’s pathetic.

  45. BucFan20 Says:

    I am not high on Freeman. But the line SUCKED. 90% of the time he had no protection. Oh VJ was open all day. I have seen that about 100 times today. 1 you need time to throw it all day. 2. How the hell long do you think you could go to that play and get away with it? Noise is just another BS excuse. These are PROS and have played under these conditions before. This is NOT their first year together. Carimi is not the answer on the other side and DJ is not ready to play.
    So please, all fans in all cities we play in. Please be quiet while our offense is on the field.

  46. tonytwocents Says:

    SteveK, youre a fu(kin moron. You need to step away from the MGM circle jerk, and try to see the big picture – you ignorant, backwards a$$ non-intelligent fu(k!

    All you do is bash Freeman. Ive seen your simple minded posts these past few weeks. You dont talk about any other aspect of the game other than Freeman. I think he gives you a hard on and you hate him for it.. Youre obsessed with seeing him fail. But you cant put together a string of good points. You’re a tool. Youre everything that a team doesnt need in a fan. Your mother should kill herself for giving birth to such a loser like you.

    After this post, you dont get anymore of my acknowledgement or time you petty little man.

  47. Buc1987 Says:

    Good lord you people and your “settle” for Schiano comments after one game. The only thing that you need to “settle” about is settling down after 1 game. If Schiano does not fix all the mistakes by this Sunday, then panic. Pathetic is the word I will continue to use for the Bucs fans base. Yes that includes you too Couch Fan.

  48. tonytwocents Says:

    on to the next one!!

  49. Buc1987 Says:

    tonytwocents…ya see 2cents this is most of the fan base. Ignorant.

  50. Buc1987 Says:

    Seasons that I have been through since being a Buc fan.
    1987 4-11
    1988 5-11
    1989 5-11
    1990 6-10
    1991 3-13
    1992 5-11
    1993 5-11
    1994 6-10
    1995 7-9
    1996 6-10
    1997 10-6…when everyone in the bay area magically became a Buc fan.
    1998 8-8
    1999 11-5
    2000 10-6
    2001 9-7
    2002 12-4 SB Champs and then even more people became Buc fans.
    2003 7-9
    2004 5-11
    2005 11-5
    2007 9-7
    2008 9-7
    2009 3-13
    2010 10-6
    2011 4-12
    2012 7-9
    2013 0-1 so far

    Have I ever been as pissed off as MOST of you a-hole fairweather fans after the first game of the season? Not even close to it. Pipe down you people have NOT suffered enough yet.

  51. Robbie_G Says:

    Funny Kelly is in Philly, and putting an @$$ kicking on the skins. It’s not 1 game last year, they lost how many in a row? Oh that’s right, the won the last game of the year and all is forgiven.

  52. chef paul Says:

    Damn right tony!

  53. buc4lyfe Says:

    Week one don’t panic against a team with no offensive weapons, a rookie we let have an 80.6 passer rating? Don’t panic but panic once we play a team we know will put up points? Hey man that’s a good idea actually because how much different can rob Ryan’s defense be from his brother’s. Yea we should be prepared on offense and if not then what? You can blame j5 like schiano did but a real leader puts it on himself as the coach for games like that ok so schiano didn’t fine…this game of football favors the bold, schiano had n never gone for the throat, he’s a 3 runs up the middle and point guy…..why not be bold and give glennon a try, it’s sad I think this team need a spark after game one. You can’t beat a rookie qb so does anyone here think we won’t be 0-3 heading into week 4?

  54. Buc1987 Says:

    It was a crappy loss to a crappy team that the Bucs should have beaten if about 15 different things did not go wrong. The same people that brought in Nicks, Jackson, Revis, and Goldson also brought in Schiano. The same people also drafted Martin, McCoy and David. So maybe they were right about everything else but Schiano? You people can make this determination after 1 crappy game to a crappy team that the Bucs should have won if not for a misguided shove out of bounds by David. If not for that shove the Bucs would have escaped with an ugly win. Questions would still be raised I’m sure, because of the play the whole game. Give the effing man a chance to right the ship before throwing him to the dogs. For ef sake in 2011 Raheem the Dream was given the whole friggin season to right the ship. Suck it up Buc fans and learn to just deal with it. It comes with being a Buc fan. Whiners.

  55. Robbie_G Says:

    buc4lyfe, well said.

  56. lightningbuc Says:

    It’s funny – Buc1987 wonders why no one in his section pays attention to his efforts to get them to make noise and stand up. Maybe his admitted Red Sox hat and Doug Martin jersey has something to do with it. Love Tampa Bay on Sunday, but hate them Monday thru Saturday. Now that’s a REAL FAN!

  57. Robbie_G Says:

    I am nor saying fire Schiano, but hell, all we hear is, ” he is detailed, his team does not make mistakes”. This goes back to last year as well. I am not impressed with the game day planning or the in game changes, or lack there of. He needs to let Sully be MORE aggressive, and stop micro managing the whole damn outfit.

  58. Pete 422 Says:

    @Buc4lyfe: Well, the Jets keyed on the run & the Bucs didn’t adjust and make them pay in the passing game, although I think they could have. They better get ready to do so Sunday, because I don’t think the Saints are going to let Doug M. beat them.

  59. Robbie_G Says:

    Why is it when fans TRY to voice their opinions about things that went wrong or things that need to be fixed, they are not fans, or they suck. I think fans who assume loosing or accept it, are not real fans. right Cubs fans” Loveable looser”, no thank you

  60. Oil Derrick Brooks Says:

    Chip Kelly. Wow.

  61. Buc1987 Says:

    “You can’t beat a rookie qb so does anyone here think we won’t be 0-3 heading into week 4?”

    I’m not looking that far ahead, because anything can happen right? Clayborn could drill Brees so hard his teeth could fall out of his head and he might break something. So why look that far ahead? Cut the 13 penalties in 1/2 down to 6 and yes I think the Bucs can be a good team. They say it was only 13 but I swear it was more than that. Maybe it was because the penalties kept drives alive for the Jets “rookie”.

  62. Eric Says:

    It’s obviously the fans fault the team stinks.

  63. Buc1987 Says:

    lightningbug…wth is this fascination you have with me? Do you actually have anything else to say about the game or the article ever? Why is that you love to talk trash to other Buc fans? Are you that much of fool?

    “lightningbuc Says:
    September 8th, 2013 at 5:13 pm
    A thread with almost 300 comments, and none from Buc1987. Call the Sunshine Skyway bridge alert, stat!”

    lightningbuc Says:
    September 8th, 2013 at 5:49 pm
    Buc1987? Are you OK? I may not particularly care for you, but it’s just a game. Don’t jump!

    lightningbuc Says:
    September 8th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
    Buc1987? Anyone, anyone?

    Raphael, your boyfriend was awful today! All offseason you goobers told us how much the Bucs gave up in points. Today, it was 18 (really only 16). JFro needs to win. BOO!

    lightningbuc Says:
    September 8th, 2013 at 6:00 pm
    Buc1987 and BucNjunky,

    Please, for the love of God, you guys are tailgating next week together. Don’t JUMP!

    lightningbuc Says:
    September 8th, 2013 at 6:23 pm
    Anyone seen Buc87 or Buc Junky?

  64. k_bassuka Says:

    Damn we wrre so close of having a real HC in Kelly instead we got stuck with this Singano guy…

  65. Robbie_G Says:

    Chip Kelly.. yup they settled

  66. Buc1987 Says:

    I’ll just leave you people in here for awhile to wallow in your woe is me the poor Buc fan syndrome after 1 game. Have fun bitching about your team amongst yourselves.

  67. lightningbuc Says:

    I’m sure there’s a Red Sox game you can watch.

  68. blackmagic00 Says:

    Everyone needs to calm the F down it’s one game. If by the bye week we are not 2-0, then, ya, we suck again. we’ve been here. we know what to do. that’s why gru-Allen and rah are gone. Let it play out. dam this sucks to type on a smart phone.

  69. blackmagic00 Says:

    Sorry meant 2-2 by the bye

  70. BFFL Says:

    I think what happened Sunday is a blessing in disguise. LVD and the defense will have a huge chip on their shoulder. I guarantee LVD will transform into an animal and take some heads off. this isn’t the type of guy to welt away in shame. The internal beast has been awoken.

  71. Robbie_G Says:

    BFFL that is a great point, maybe this will fire up the troops!

  72. BamBamBuc Says:

    Not that many of you care, but after a day away from the game, the re-watching the game from a more analytical perspective than a fan perspective… I have to say a few things.

    First, Freeman really wasn’t that bad. I know, stevek and lightningbuc will jump in and start bashing here, but he really wasn’t. Right out of the gate, he was hitting his targets. Mike Will on a quick slant. VJ for a 20 yard gain. And it continued for most of the first half, even under duress he did fairly well, after a couple sacks, he still did pretty good. There were several drops. VJ had one that went right through both his outstretched hands. Martin had a couple. One was a bit behind, but very catchable.

    Of course, most of the “fuss” in the first half was the communication issues, the helmet malfunction and his “inability” to just “run the offense” off the top of his head. Well, sorry for that, but he’s definitely NO Peyton Manning.

    The defense was also very good. I disagree with some of the “defenseless receiver” calls and “hits to the head” calls, but I liked their aggressiveness and overall they did very well.

    The kicking game was sensational. Koenen did a great job, Page flashed on returns. Very positive on special teams.

    Some specifics… the INT Freeman threw after the David INT. If you watch the blitzing CB (not touched by a blocker of any sort), he hits Freeman just as the ball is about to be released (still in Freeman’s hand) which caused the ball to sail. There were a couple incompletions that were similar, guys pulling his jersey as he threw causing the ball to go off target. Freeman did have a couple poor throws, but overall, most were pretty good when he was able to get the ball off cleanly.

    The O-line was pathetic. No push in the run blocking at all. The only really successful run was an audible by Freeman to a draw play where the O-line doesn’t run block, they pass block to set up the draw. Pass blocking wasn’t any better. Admittedly, the Jets threw a lot of blitzes at them, but they were pretty bad. Penn seemed to really struggle, but I never thought he was as good as his contract to begin with.

    Due to the O-line, the run game was anemic. Of course, I also have to say some of that has to fall on Sullivan and the play-calls. I also have to put some of that on the Bucs not using ANY of their other backs to run the ball. No Leonard, no Hillis. All Martin all the time. A change of pace, or a breather for Martin may have helped someone get something in the run game.

    Maybe it was just the Jets O-line, but Clayborn was coming through almost untouched a LOT. GMC was also getting pressure. The LBs were actually getting there on the blitzes. Pressure looked good, but containment suffered. When they didn’t get the sack, containment completely broke down, allowing Smith huge openings to run for yards and first downs. Fix the contain issue and the D looks dangerous.

    Bring Underwood back. He’s no worse than Ogletree, and probably better. Yeah, he dropped some last year, but he also had some pretty good games last October. We NEED an outlet receiver. The backs weren’t cutting it. The Jets were ALL OVER the screen passes. We have NO Tight End. We MUST find a 3rd receiving threat. This is where a lot went wrong in the passing game in the 2nd half. CB and S on both VJ and MW, LB on the RB and nobody else can get open. Maybe toss a blitz in there too, and there’s no time for anyone else to get open, even if they could.

    Not watching as a “fan”, the Bucs really didn’t look as bad as it felt yesterday. There were a LOT of positives in the game. We DO need to fix a couple things, but it wouldn’t take much and I think we can compete with anyone in the league.

  73. Orlandobucfan Says:

    EJ biggers giving up more touchdowns, at least he’s not in a bucs uniform.

  74. buc4lyfe Says:

    I see why Freeman looks the way he looks on the sideline, you people are saying the coaching staff doesn’t trust him but maybe he’s ok with not getting an extension, maybe he wants out more than you fools want him gone…..consider this- yes Josh Freeman isn’t clear headed out there which is bad for a quarterback in his fifth season but how many quarterbacks in the history of the NFL other than Freeman can say

    5 years in this league, I’ve never had an experienced head coach, first coach you give him had never been more than DB coach then of all the coaches they interviewed finally they settled on this tool schiano, no history of success to speak of. You overwhelm rah Morris when you could have made it easier by giving him a D Coordinator…Shaun king had you figured out Dominick

  75. Stanglassman Says:

    See Vick get pushed out of bounce as he steps out no flag? Amazing inconsistency!

  76. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    I just watched Schiano’s press conference, and I wish I wouldn’t have. He places absolutely none of the blame upon himself. Zero. He is unnecessarily secretive, as if telling us what is supposed to happen when communication goes out is top secret. Give me a break with that nonsense! I can get over a loss. I can get over a bad coaching performance. What I can’t get over is someone who preaches accountability not being accountable. Be a man, get up on the podium and say you screwed up! Don’t indirectly pass blame off on your players. Do you really expect me to believe all of our mental mistakes are a result of us being excited to play together? What a joke!

  77. Buc1987 Says:

    lightningbuc …you just stay in here and be the jackass you’ve always been. It’s what your good at. Last time I checked baseball and football are 2 different sports. Me being a Red Sox fan my entire life is probably why I tolerated the Bucs since 1987. Was there as baseball team in 1987 when I moved to Tampa? Nope. I don’t trash my team and coach at every move. I don’t even know why I respond to you anymore. Just because I said I’m going to wear my Sox hat to 1 game out of the 8 games that I’m going to (none which you will be apart of) does not excuse the fans that just sit there when the D is on the field, but to you it must. Did you ever make it past the 5th grade? I swear you are the poster boy for birth control.

    As for the rest of you.
    Yes everyone likes Chip Kelly and what he’s doing for the Eagles. He’s a great offensive minded coach. Right now the Bucs have a defensive minded coach and that’s very obvious. All I’m saying is it was ONLY week 1. Panic all you want that’s your prerogative as a fan. It does not make you less of fan. I guess I’m just more tolerant and willing to wait things out.

  78. Chef Paul Says:

    Holy Cow BamBam,

    Reading your post was like a tall glass of ice water on a hot day. So damn refreshing. After you helped calm me down, I am in total agreement.

    We need Nicks and Lorig back as soon as possible.

  79. Robbie_G Says:

    Hawaiian Buc, TBA unless you are the Head Coach right?

  80. KWBucFan Says:

    Man Shannahan and the Hall of Fame QB look unprepared and sloppy at home. Maybe the world is not going to end. I wish we had a fan base that stuck behind their team instead of waiting for a mistake or ba game to dump on them. I just like watching us being competitive in every game. GO BUCS!

  81. SteveK Says:


    You’re real phucking cool!

    Go Bucs, just stating that Freeman’s play is regressing and more a part of the problem rather then the solution.

  82. Buc1987 Says:

    Hawaiian Buc..I get your point, I watched the presser too. I wished he would have atleast took some of the blame for lack of preparedness. On the other hand I don’t think Schiano is to blame for the rash of penalties that took place. That’s on the players and I think he will hold them accountable to that this week. Okay now I am really out of here for the night. Have fun trashing your team people, sounds like like fun!

  83. bucrightoff Says:

    Chip’s offense would not work with the personnel here. When Vick gets hurt and Foles has to run it, they’ll be in trouble.

  84. Robbie_G Says:

    I hope the pigeons fall apart week 6

  85. Buc1987 Says:

    KWBucFan …your right FIRE Shannahan. Right.. Robbie_G ? Right all you BS negative fairweather fans Shannahan and all his experience is getting his ass whipped right now by a college coach. The Skins should fire him after week 1. Have a good night!

  86. Robbie_G Says:

    Buc1987, I am not saying Fire Schiano, he seems like he is in over his head at times. good lord, talk about overreact!

  87. Hawaiian Buc Says:


    It really doesn’t matter who’s fault it really is (the players or the coaches), the coach ultimately is responsible for the team. If a team doesn’t look prepared and doesn’t play well, it is on him. The same applies for the QB if the offense doesn’t play well. That’s why they get paid the big bucks. They know it, as do all of us. I don’t even care if it’s not his fault, he should still take responsibility, because that’s what coaches do. Do you really think the players would be happy with that press conference? I sure wouldn’t if I were a player. They’ll take the responsibility for the mistakes and not blame the coach. Too bad the coach can’t follow suit. Not good when your players know more about how things work than the coach does.

  88. Robbie_G Says:

    Hawaiian Buc, you wonder, with all the ” talk” coming from ” sources” in the locker room about Schiano. I hope they turn it around.

  89. Chef Paul Says:


    I understand what you are saying, but this is a Monday after a terrible loss. We as fans, have every right to complain on this day. I agree that all summer long and all preseason long, all the bitching adds up and annoys you, and me alike. Or even the rest of the week is a time to calm down. But we should be allowed to complain on Mondays after a devastating loss. It’s called over reaction Monday for a reason and I take full advantage of that. lol

  90. BigMacAttack Says:

    BamBam, I thought our defense was awesome, best I’ve seen since the 02′ Bucs. Revis and Goldston were great adds and everyone hustled.

    Am I the only person with 2 TVs in the living room so I can watch red zone or baseball while football is on? Or watch MNF and listen to Slash on AXStv. I really need to get a life.

    And Buc1897, don’t take it wrong but you talk way too much.

  91. Robbie_G Says:

    Chef Paul, that’s what I was trying to say as well. After all it’s sports 🙂

  92. RBellBuc Says:

    ^^^you kidding this will go on all week and certain people will ramp up their attacks.

  93. Robbie_G Says:

    RBellBuc, it’s not just Bucs fans, it’s everywhere

  94. Raphael Says:

    Stevek …blah blah blah more nonsense from your blabber mouth

  95. passthebuc Says:

    If that was the exact comment, it is a comment from a rank armature

  96. Raphael Says:

    @ bambambuc …great post as usual

  97. Raphael Says:

    @ bffl. Totally agree, that’s why I think we go on a nice win streak soon.

  98. tonytwocents Says:

    I agree with Chef Paul. Great analysis BamBam. I was thinking about re-watching the game, but your take covered it all. And to the person that said this may be a blessing in disguise, I sure as sh!t hope so.

    The way they respond vs NO will tell us a lot more about this team. I’m pissed as hell, but I’m not giving up on this team.

  99. Chef Paul Says:

    RBell. You’re right it will. But today, we should be allowed. I won’t do it the rest of the week, I swear.

  100. Bobby Says:

    @BamBam…you said just what I said right after the game yesterday. Everybody was screaming about Freeman’s poor play and I really didn’t think it was all that bad. Certainly not great but when it really counted he led the offense down the field and got the score. When he was given the field position by the defense we got the scores. And you are EXACTLY RIGHT about the interception….he was hit as he was releasing the ball and the throw sailed on him. He really should never have thrown it toward a receiver because he knew he was barely gonna get it off if at all. Costly mistake but it wasn’t an errant throw as much as it was a throw that sailed because of the hit. Let’s be honest…without the penalties on defense and the bad snap by Zuttah we win that game by 11 pts. Without all the dropped passes and false starts, holds etc. by the offense we probably win by more than that. Those are things we can clean up.

    A lot of teams have looked sloppy week 1. You should have seen the Redskins in the first half. I think they actually looked worse than we did.

  101. RBellBuc Says:

    I say keep it up my Tampa Buc Fans. Get nasty. All your radio jocks are doing a disservice to Tampa Bay by ramping up there attacks as we speak. At the end of the day no one living in Tampa will be inclined to buy a ticket unless they’re wearing the other teams jersey. Your media is pathetic and your local fan base is pathetic. I lived there when the Bucs came into the league. I grew up with the Bucs but now I live in Montana about 7.5 hours from Las Vegas. Even if half of you calm down you’ll have your media amping up the hatred and they will have a fringe following. Keep it up! All the better for me. As much as the media guys will tell you the Glazers would never leave because of their sweet stadium deal is misleading you because they can’t say definitively that that would never happen. Las Vegas has been wanting a team for awhile now and will offer an even sweeter deal to get a franchise here. The funny thing is every time the media goes on their smear campaign they essentially hurt the team financially by convincing people the Buc’s are not worthy can one day hurt them too. So go ahead Tampa Bay. You’re going to lose the Rays already, almost guaranteed. Now it’s time to completely alienate the Glazers.

    Welcome to VEGAS!!! BABY!!!

  102. buc4life24 Says:

    So much for the “every stone unturned” comments we always hear regarding our coavhing staff! Im losing faith in our HC and yes after 1 game this yr plus last yrs debacle. Preseason was not properly utilized……gelling and getting reps for rythm purposes.

  103. buc4life24 Says:


  104. chris Says:

    Davin, you weren’t ready for the noise? LOL you/re going on the road on opening day. That means you weren’t prepared. PERIOD

  105. BamBamBuc Says:

    I was actually watching for mostly two things. One: Freeman’s passes. Were they good, bad, or what? Well, overall they were pretty good. A couple errant throws, but he led the team fairly well with the calls he was given. He was put in difficult spots due to the run calls and came through frequently. Second, what, other than LVD’s late penalty, was the main cause for the loss. The glaring thing is the safety. Those two points made a huge difference. The Jets took a 15-14 lead on a FG that could have still been a 1 point Bucs lead, and would have needed a TD in the final 34 seconds instead of a FG without that safety.

  106. SteveK Says:

    Sunday was the ninth time in 58 career starts that Freeman has completed fewer than half of his passes. All have been losses.

  107. RBellBuc Says:

    ^^^ maybe you ought to tryout for receiver? Ogletree 2 drops in a row

  108. Danny Says:

    If they thought MetLife Stadium was loud, just wait until they go to Seattle in a couple of months.

  109. Eric Says:

    Who would have expected noise at a football game?

  110. Buc1987 Says:

    RBellBuc …lol all I gotta say is you keep it up. Your doing a great job. The fans in Tampa do suck ass. I can say that with no remorse. Sure there are few out there like me that don’t bash the Bucs at every turn. Probably because there is a few 1000 of us that went through the sh!t yrs before Dungy and will put up with the bumps in the road until the team becomes good again.

    Your making great points about the fans and the media in this area. I swear to God if I were to actually count up all the fans that talk trash about their team and the ones that don’t talk trash. The trash talkers would have a HUGE lead over the ones that don’t. I’ve never actually done this though, because it would be a pain in the ass. I could go into PR and find tons of them. Then come back in here and find a whole lot more. People that trash talk about them get pissed when I say things like. You don’t deserve this team if it ever becomes good or your not a real fan for trashing them the way that you do. It drives them CRAZY when I say it.
    You really want to know what the real problem is with these fans? Adam L. a jbf poster made a perfect point that made sense to me about 3 weeks ago. He gets pissed about the moves that are made with the team, but he still buys season tix every year. He said the reason why he does it, is because in 97 he saw the stadium start to fill up because the team started winning and all the fairweather fans started to overload the stadium and tickets were hard to get. So he buys them every year so he does not lose his seats win or lose. That is what a REAL fan is all about. What I’m trying to get at is this. Most of these fans that bitch and moan about the team ONLY became REAL fans in 1997 when the team started to look good, and they saw the Dungy/Gruden years and have high expectations because of that.

    Some of the garbage and I do mean GARBAGE statements that I’ve read on here by “fans”trashing their team are over the top. At some point I just wish they would bring Raheem Morris or say Ray Perkins back so they would have legitimate reasons to bitch and moan.

    Then we have fans on here that trash me or you or anyone else that are optimistic about the season. Then we have outright morons like lightningbug that make it their mission to break down fans so they are not so optimistic anymore.
    I will ride out the season no matter the outcome and buy season tickets next year as well. Will I bitch and moan that i just shelled out 1300 bucks on a limited income to see this team look like garbage if that’s the way it continues? Hell no. The majority of the bitch and moan club barely go to any Buc games at all. WTH do they have to bitch about? I’m the one that shelled out the money, do you see me bitching? Nope. If the Bucs start winning again will the stadium start to fill up again like Adam L. made mention of? Yup. It’s not like that in Philly and Jetsland they sellout regardless.

    If the Bucs pull off an upset this Sunday watch everyone change their tune and stop bashing the coach. Pathetic fan base. 1 game and it’s fire this guy, he’s a college coach and he sucks. Pathetic fan base. Oh well you keep up the good work man. Someday I might have to go out to Vegas to see my Bucs play and while I’m there, if they lose I won’t bitch and moan about it.

  111. Buc1987 Says:

    Eric Says:
    September 10th, 2013 at 12:01 am

    Who would have expected noise at a football game?

    Any team that comes to RJS….

  112. Buc1987 Says:

    ….should not expect it.

  113. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    BamBamBuc, yu pretty much said what I feel. To add to it…

    …the way the headset issue was handled was downright embarrassing. That said, when it was clear things were slipping out of control Sully called his assistants together and whatever he said worked. From that point on the offense clicked…except for penalties.

    I agree concerning Underwood. I’ve always felt he would be better that Ogletree. I’m not saying he is a permanant solution but he is better than Ogletree.

    I’m not worried. I know things will be fixed. I thought we would win this one but I mentioned a week or two ago that the Bucs traditionally start the season with a loss. It even happened the superbowl year.

    To those who are singing the praises of Chip Kelly, first he refused to come here. Second, you could say we “settled” for Tony Dungy too. Kelly still has a lot to prove just like Schiano does.

    And finally, stop blaming Schiano for the noise. They practiced with noise. They actually handled it well. The trouble came with faulty sound fed thru headsets. Sound provided by the Jets, yet it didn’t happen to the Jets. Maybe they cheated, maybe they didn’t. Either way, the responsibility in that situation laid with Sully, not Schiano. And Sully handled it.

  114. WestCoastBucsFan Says:

    BamBamBuc kills it again. Great post man, agreed 100%.

    Stevek, please take the time to read a post about football from someone that actually knows what they’re talking about. Stop Bashing Freeman for two consecutive seconds in your life and just read.

  115. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    I like to think I’m a very positive fan. I have always supported this team and will continue to. I think it would be ridiculous to fire Schiano now. I think overall he did a very good job last year. He brought the right attitude at that time. Exactly what we needed. I don’t care he was a college coach, and that he didn’t win the Big East at Rutgers. I understand the landscape of college athletics, and know how uneven the playing field.

    That being said, this team has stunk up the joint from the first preseason game. He chose not to play the starters virtually any during the preseason, and it has come back to bite him. That is his mistake. He is responsible for that decision. Let me make one thing clear: EVERYTHING is his responsibility as head coach of this team. He has made that even more clear by his micromanaging of every little detail. He does things his way, and only his way. That’s totally fine and understandable, but don’t you dare excuse him when things go wrong! It doesn’t work that way. He doesn’t get a pass.

    If the playcalling by Sullivan isn’t very good, then it is his responsibility to either correct the problem, or find a new OC. It is his responsibility to make sure the offense fits our personnel, and to find the proper OC to coach the offense. I personally believe that Schiano has a huge impact on playcalling on both sides of the ball. I have yet to see any evidence that he delegates. Jon Gruden he is not (meaning how Gruden completely left the defense to Kiffin).

  116. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    Like many coaches, Schiano strikes me as being extremely stubborn. It shows by the product on the field. We are going to run the ball, even if there is consistenly nothing there. He doesn’t care that the defense is taking away the run and practically giving him the pass.

    He is going to blitz the hell out of Drew Brees next week, even though Brees is great at defeating the blitz. You just wait and see. We are going to play man to man against teams with mobile QB’s, even though that means their QB’s are going to gash us on the ground. We are going to run the exact same offensive plays week in week out, without using the slot receiver or the TE. We are going to do these things because that’s what he wants to do. You’re a fool if you believe these are the ideas of the coordinators. I really hope it works, but I’m becoming very skeptical.

    Anybody think we are going to pick up the pace on offense? Anyone see us going to a hurry up offense more often? I think we can all agree Freeman works best under hurry up. Anyone care to place a wager that Schiano will change his beliefs and start doing that? No one will, because we all know he won’t. We are going to snap the ball with a couple seconds on the play clock every play, every game. Anybody think Freeman is going to be allowed to extend plays with his legs? Anybody think we are going to stop doing these ridiculous stunts (which NEVER work)?

    So basically my point is that if we continue to do the same thing because he is too stubborn to change, how is anything going to get fixed? He said all last year “we are going to get it fixed”, but guess what, it’s not getting fixed and we are on year 2. In fact, it’s getting worse. I can bang my head into my wall to try to get out of the room all day, but until I look for the damn door and walk out of it, I doubt I’ll make it out of there. Right now, we are just banging into the wall repeatedly.

  117. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    I’ve also heard enough that I believe the reports that the players are growing weary of him. That’s the biggest problem right there. This isn’t high school or college. As fans, this is a concept that most can’t understand. This is their job, it isn’t a game. If you hate your boss because he makes you do stupid things (i.e. toes on the line, crashing the victory formation, etc.), yet doesn’t hold himself accountable for anything, are you really going to go over and beyond to do everything your boss asks? Are you not going to start complaining to anyone that will listen as to how much of a douche your boss is? Of course you will, because we all will. That’s the problem. These players know they are a very talented team, but they also know that the coach is very stubborn, and makes ALL the decisions. Players have asked to stop doing all the stunts, yet he doesn’t listen. GMC is in the backfield every damn play, yet we make him do these stupid arse stunts on critical third down plays!!! I’m sure players have made many more suggestions that get ignored. If we win, they’ll live with it and not complain. If we lose, then you are going to have a lot more pissed off players that don’t want to play for the guy.

    I’m going to hope for the best and continue to support Schiano, but I have a really bad feeling about this. I think we’ll win some games and have a decent season (we are too talented not to), but if the stubbornness continues, I don’t see us having any chance at a winning season. I’ve been a Buc fan for long enough to see when things are going downhill, and this certainly appears to be headed down that road. I really really hope I’m wrong.

  118. Mean D Says:

    Please get rid of the useless Freeman!

  119. Stranger Says:

    @Hawaiian Buc

    This biggest thing that stands out to me is how hurt Bennett sounded right after signing with the Seahawks. I fear things like that resonate with the players.

  120. Capt. Tim Says:

    Team captain states that team wasn’t prepared?

    That tells you where the players are at with” The Rutgers Plan”

    Not prepared for stadium noise. Can’t execute plays without confusion and penalties.

    Obviuos( except to clueless Glennon bunch) where the problem lies.

  121. King Diamond Says:

    What do u expect when you hire a head coach out of the big east.
    You get what u pay for.

  122. MTM Says:

    This speaks volumes about the late hired coach and its staff. When the Glazers began their search all the good coaches were already hired. Its an organizational issue.

  123. bucrightoff Says:

    I hate this attitude towards Freeman: “Well he didn’t play great, not terrible, but he made the plays when it mattered”. You see if he made the plays consistently throughout the game, the score is 24-13 with 1 minute left and the odds of losing are even more astronomical. Far, far too often winning with Freeman isn’t easy.

  124. Chef Paul Says:

    So a guy can be positive all offseason, during preseason, and expect great things from this team all summer. Then get devastated by a loss that was heartbreaking, and isn’t allowed to complain on Mondays? Ok Got it. What a crock.

    So there’s three types of fans in here. One type focuses solely on Freeman and their hatred for him. One type that puts themselves on a pedestal that looks down at all the fans for not being like them. And one type that is only about 3-4 guys like BamBam, HawaiianBuc, and PRBuc, that are calm and collective and continually have perspective.

    Then this whole you haven’t suffered enough. What kind of BS is that? Do you really think you are the only one that gone through anything. Listen buddy. I live in Iowa and I’m a Hawkeye fan. About one great season per decade. When I was about 7-8 I stated watching football in about 1988. My two favorite teams for the last 25 years? #1 Bucs. #2 Bengals. Ive drifted away from the Bengal the last 5 or 6 years though. That’s about 30 in the entire fricking decade of the 90’s between 2 teams. Don’t tell me this bull how I haven’t suffered enough.

  125. Pete 422 Says:

    FTI Schiano took responsibility on his radio show yesterday. Also took calls from fans. Something Gruden never did.

  126. Bobby Says:

    When are people going to learn to separate ‘coaching’ from ‘execution’??? You can coach till you’re blue in the face but you can’t execute plays for them. Did you see all the sloppy play this first week from teams around the NFL?? Do you once again think the Bucs were then only team ‘unprepared’ at the beginning of the game? Did you see the Redskins in the first half against Philly? I thought they looked worse than we did. They had a fumble, two picks, and I think two first downs the entire first half. They were down 33-7 and still only ended up losing by 6. Lot’s of teams come out rough in game #1. I wish we weren’t one of them but we were.

    This defense is going to keep us in every game. I don’t see a lot of high scoring games against us this year. If the offense starts to click we’ll be fine. I just think it’s ridiculous to want to fire the coach and QB after one game. Especially a QB that did lead what should have been a game winning drive at the end. If you listened to John Lynch he said “Josh Freeman is in a contract year. If you want to get paid you show that you can take your team down the field and score in situations like this.” Freeman did just that.
    I wasn’t thrilled with the way Freeman played or the way the entire team played but Freeman did what he had to do when he had to do it. I would gladly have taken an ugly win and that is just what we should have had if the defense would have closed it out.

  127. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Hawaiian Buc Says:
    “He chose not to play the starters virtually any during the preseason…”

    I really don’t know why this is surprising to anyone. Year after year, no matter who the coach is, it happens. Schiano isn’t any different than every coach before him or throughout the NFL.

    Being a positive fan is not about giving up after one game. The team we saw Sunday is completely different than the one who will face the Saints. It will be like night and day.

    As to the reports of players growing weary of him, that’s bullspit. We also heard that Schiano and Freeman did not get along, that Freeman was a partier and other “rumors” that the media ran as fact. All it takes is one idiot media guy to state something as fact according to unnamed sources and the national media will run with it. It all usually comes from one liar.

    Being the 12th man isn’t just about wearing a title. It’s about being a part of the team. People claiming to be fans need to start acting like it.

  128. BigMacAttack Says:

    The prevent defense never works, never has and never will. It was a colossal coaching blunder. If not for that David would not have been put in the position he was.

    I also try to stay positive but I take exception with you Mother Theresa Fans that trash fans that get upset with the team and coaches. They have as much right to their opinion as the rest, just like Duemig does. It’s been a long time and a lot of losing along the way. I only get upset with incessant whining by fans, because it won’t lead to consistent winning. It is what it is with our team, and when we are upset, the Glazers are too, I guarantee it. The defense was better than it has been in years and that gives us a shot against the Saints, but being GOOD in the NFL won’t win championships. You have to be GREAT, consistently, day in, play in and play out.

    I agree that Josh didn’t have a bad game, but is that really going to cut it? Sullivan had a horrible game and maybe he is a major part of Freeman’s lack of Greatness. We got McNulty now and he can fill the OC role if needed. Schiano has got the defense heading the right way. I’ll take 16 points any day of the week.

  129. Capt. Tim Says:

    The team we saw Sunday is the same team we saw all preseason. Nothing changed.

    Bobby- gotta disagree there buddy. I played for some great coaches. As one coach told us- ” execution is a combination of coaching and repetition. We will practice one play- until we do it perfectly. If we spend all summer on one play- so be it! We will do that one play magnificently!!”

    And he meant it. The Bucs can’t run one play, without somebody being on the wrong page- that’s bad coaching

  130. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    Buccaneer Bonsai,

    How exactly do you know the players not liking Schiano is bullspit? I suggest you read the article from Pewter Report. You can claim he’s making stuff up, but I’m going to go out on a limb and say he would know better than you. As for Freeman not being a partner, not so fast my friend. I know for 100% fact that he is. It doesn’t mean that’s his problem, but trust me when I say that he’s not Peyton Manning. Where there is smoke there is usually fire.

  131. BigMacAttack Says:

    I feel that I can pretty much say whatever i want about the Bucs. I buy season tickets and have since they moved to Raymond James. I went to games before that but never had season tickets or really a reason to get them. I’ve signed up for my 2014 tickets already and begun paying on them. So yeah I’m a fan regardless what I say or don’t say. It takes a lot to drive me to the dark side and last Sunday these coaches did everything in their power to bring out my inner Darth. It was really an abhorred performance by the Coaching staff. There is no exuse or justification for it, and hopefully this time they can Truly learn from it and dispel with the cliches. Timeouts are valuable and shouldn’t be wasted but there are times like at the end of the game when you ought to just call a timeout. Schiano should have called one before the field goal by the Jets, even if not to stone the kicker, take a timeout and let him think about it. If Schiano goes 0-3, which I hope he doesn’t, he may very well write his ticket back to Jersey. I think Schiano would make a good D coordinator though if he throws the prevent book out. It is time for our HC to walk the walk and prove his worth. If he doesn’t soon, it could be over for him. I’ll still be a Buc fan but I have never seen Penn go off like he did on the sidelines and this problem may be festering, getting ready to pop. I sure hope not and we beat the Saints.