Treating First Down Like Third Down

December 29th, 2012

With cornerbacks like E.J. Biggers and Leonard Johnson starting, the Bucs must change their approach, says Pat Kirwan.

The Bucs’ pass defense is so porous Tampa Bay might need to start treating first down like third down.

That take is floated, via this video link, by noted former NFL personnel executive and former coach Pat Kirwan, now seen on CBS and heard on NFL Radio.

Kirwan says to look for “more pressure calls” from the Bucs, especially as E.J. Biggers and Leonard Johnson try to match up against Roddy White and Julio Jones. Though Kirwan expects the Bucs corners to “once again be beaten up.”

Kirwan calls for a 17-10 Falcons victory, with Atlanta staters resting in the second half.

Joe hopes this prediction is way off. Joe absolutely will hit the ceiling if the Bucs can’t rally to beat Luke McCown and the rest of the Falcons backups, if they do indeed take over in the final 30 minutes.

16 Responses to “Treating First Down Like Third Down”

  1. Raphael Says:

    Penalties ! Sometimes they got a good gain, then got a false start or holding call….then it was 1st and 20 or 1st and 15…. Not good..
    Prolly Freemans fault tho..:)

  2. Ian's Gay Lisp & Ron's Drinking Problem Says:

    Patty also predicted the Bucs to go 3-13….and now that they’ve gone into the tank (b/c of injuries/trades/Freeman tossing a million INT’s)…Patty is back on his “College Coach ain’t gonna work” soap box. I swear that fool is drunk 6 days a week

  3. Macabee Says:


    See John Lynch comments on Schiano at PFT.

  4. Architek Says:

    Well prepare yourself for the worst with #5 at the helm.

  5. SteveK Says:


    He is 100% responsible for the outcome Sunday, plays like a capable QB- win, plays like a flippin moron and looks like complete Sh!t- we lose.

    Freeman = Mark Sanchez? Answer to come Sunday. If Freeman plays like utter Sh!t, then we gotta trade his arse!

  6. SteveK Says:

    If the Buc’s offense was an “engine”, then the Quarterback position would be the “oil”. Freeman, right now, is sludging up the engine.

  7. Yar Says:

    Bucs need to lose this game to have a shot at Milliner. The Bucs need to keep Freeman he will develop into a very good QB under Sullivan. This is not the time to start over at QB. Give these guy’s a little time together.

  8. PRBucFan Says:

    Thats BS,
    We aren’t cemented to Free by any means. There is no better time actually with all of the newer pieces of our team only spending one season with Jekyll/Hyde.
    But i do think its crucial we sign Milliner, we must lose. However I also think its preposterous for anyone to suggest that we aren’t gonna stomp there backups if they indeed do try and put them in.

  9. SacBucs Says:

    Its a bunch of suckers on this site. I wish it was somewhere we could all meet and play a ol fashion sandlot football game. No pads or helmet, thats how we play. Warriors! That would show the fans on this site who the real bitches are. Then tell joe to put footage of the game on his site with the posters names. That would show who should open their f-ing mouf about sports. I hit big suckers too. Rite on that knee 300 pounder. Im trying to end your walking careers. You big for nothings!

    Lets do it you know it alls!

    All I see on this site is posters attacking other posters opinion. Like lil bitches. Let see whos atheletic forreal punks!

  10. DCBUCSFAN Says:


    I hope you don’t sustain an injury when you make contact with the ceiling!

  11. Miguel El Magnifico Says:

    I’m pretty confident that the Little General will lose this one single handedly. If not, Gosh has his back.

  12. PRBucFan Says:

    Are you always this random?
    I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen you post on the actual topic of a thread?

  13. pewterpirate99 Says:

    SacBucs, you talk real tough for a piss ant behind the keyboard and a monitor. Be careful someone doesn’t find out who you really are and they pay you a visit at home in the middle of the night…………..just some friendly advice.
    So relax and slow your roll baby. There’s no reason to get your panties in a bunch just because people are expressing how they feel about numb nuts Freeman and all his lap dogs that think he’s great. I guess according to you people should just pat him on the ass and tell him, ” you’ll get them next time ” everytime he throws an interception. And by the latest count of his interceptions, his ass is probably on fire by now. Just sayin!

  14. Eric Says:

    But Luke didn’t get five years as a starter. We might have given up the next Eli Manning!

  15. BucfaninMi Says:

    It seems like they never beat a back up QB or an ex QB.

  16. SacBucs Says:

    Pewter pirate 99 …U do it.. U lucky my time zone is diffrent or i would of got at u when ya said that shh. I was talking about football but we can get gamgsta. Im in the hood bring’m out. I tried talking football yo know it alls.