“We Don’t Have Those Little Bickering Spats …”

October 28th, 2011

Seemingly contradicting what Joe and other fans saw with their own eyes, Raheem Morris is emphatic when he says there’s nothing personal or problematic about the heated communication between Kellen Winslow and Josh Freeman.

In fact, when asked by Rock Riley of WDAE-AM 620 about the alleged problem between Freeman and Winslow, Raheem said that chatter is something fabricated by observers.

“We don’t have those little bickering spats that people like to make up,” Raheem said.

The interview was taped locally this week and aired yesterday.

Maybe Joe’s naive, but Joe believes there is a problem between Winslow and Freeman. But Joe puts the blame squarely on both of them.

Winslow needs to dial it back, and Freeman needs to mature so he doesn’t react, in part, by trying to force the ball to Winslow repeatedly when it’s not there.

The situation has reached the point where it’s a classic scenario for a coach to step in and fix before it does become far more disruptive than a “little bickering spat” could ever be.

25 Responses to ““We Don’t Have Those Little Bickering Spats …””

  1. Pete Dutcher Says:

    You know, just because a player shows a little frustration during a game doesn’t mean there are problems, Joe.

    During that game Freeman kept missing his throws. Winslow was just holding him accountable in my book. Notice it hasn’t affected their relationship. Directly afterward, the two were shown chatting while sitting on a bench.

    The media would love a rift, because it would give them some excitement to report on. Let’s not blow it out of proportion.

  2. Eric Says:

    The rift has to flow from QB to receiver, like the Marino or Peyton Manning look at a receiver who ran a bad route or dropped a ball.

    The QB is the leader of the offense and handles the ball every play. Having a rift from receiver to QB isnt good.

    That being said, probably much ado about nuttin.

  3. macabee Says:

    Didn’t happen last year. By-product of frustration and stress to succeed. Internal family squabble. Worth keeping an eye on, but not over reaction.

  4. jb Says:

    “The situation has reached the point where it’s a classic scenario for a coach to step in and fix before it does become far more disruptive than a “little bickering spat” could ever be.”

    EXACTLY!! Raheem needs to do some REAL coaching instead of just being a buddy to these guys.

  5. Nick2 Says:

    Classic Raheem, didn’t he deny that Talib disrespected him by cursing at him for his enforcement of curfew the last time they were in England? Does Raheem understand that the whole nation caught that Winslow tantrum during the Saints game? This is what bothers me about Raheem, he denies the obvious like we are unintelligent and can’t read body language or understand when a conflict is taking place. Message to Raheem Winslow is a problem and he will continue to be until you get him under control just like Talib. Get it done Raheem or you are just a buddy to them and not a Head Coach!

  6. toolman Says:

    If Raheem is any kind of Coach/leader he will down play the problems in public and take care of them behind closed doors. That looks like what he does with the things that pop up from time to time.

  7. Nick2 Says:

    Pete I disagree Winslow threw his little tantrum during the Saints game which happened to be Freemans best game. In fact the blowup came right after the touchdown to Parker if I remember. So whats that all about???? We are winning kicking the Saints butt in the second quarter being huge underdogs and I am happy as a clam and there is Winslow crying on the sidelines “why didn’t I get that touchdown instead of Parker?? Waaaaah wahhhhhhh!” I thought I was going to throw up. Raheem should have immediately pulled Winslow aside and said suck it up man we are winning be a damn team player!!!!!

  8. Meh Says:

    Who you gonna believe, Raheem or your lying eyes after watching repeated video?

  9. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    Mountain, meet molehill.

  10. OAR Says:

    “We Don’t Have Those Little Bickering Spats …”
    Well, he isn’t lying because they look like big screaming spats!

  11. OAR Says:

    Didn’t think interceptions were molehills?
    It’s called cause and effect.

  12. Eric Says:

    He needs to renew his vows with Freeman to squelch this.

  13. OAR Says:

    It’s too bad Win-slow isn’t a more well rounded TE. He needs to concentrate on learning to block more and not give up on plays.

  14. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    The “spats” are the molehill. He isn’t throwing to Winslow because he’s in his ear, he’s throwing to him because he has always been his favorite target since coming into the league. Simple as that.

    Freeman needs to evolve and elevate his game because defenses are game planning him now, taking away Winslow & Williams as much as possible. Freeman was able to get away with this last year because there was not much tape on him and because Williams was new to the league. Not so anymore.

    He either stops looking to Winslow & Williams as his primary targets every passing play, and stops staring down his receivers, or he will continue to suffer. Defenses are forcing Freeman to either become a more well-rounded passer or continue to suffer.

    Winslow & Freeman’s “spats” are inconsequential in comparison.

  15. OAR Says:

    I disagree, I think they are affecting young Freeman! It certainly isn’t helping Freeman’s confidence, whatever the “spats” are about?
    BTW not sure what else they could be about? Win-slow certainly wouldn’t be “yelling” advice to him?

  16. espo Says:

    How about Winslow quits whining and Freeman gets his head out of his ass and we win some football games?

  17. Nick2 Says:

    I agree with OAR this is not a 10 year veteran this is really the middle of his 2nd full season and Winslow is all in his head at this point. Unfortunately Freeman is treating Winslow like a leader and not acting like one himself and as said here before the “molehills” are the repeated interceptions and poor decisions that Freeman is making trying to get the ball to the crybaby Winslow to make him happy. If Raheem meets with Winslow and Freeman and irons it all out during the bye maybe this goes away but if Freeman looks like a deer in the headlights again in New Orleans like he did in London we are in for a very long season. If I am Raheem I give Winslow a mandate to be a team player or sit the damn bench. Obviously Winslow is worrying more about his stat totals than Buccaneer victories. This is actually a serious leadership matter and Raheem doesn’t come out looking like one.

  18. RastaMon Says:

    AssClown and Soldier can split the cab fare into the real world….

  19. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    This is all the byproduct of having the pre-schooler in charge of the pre-schoolers.

  20. Lucas Jackson Says:

    Who do we believe, Joe or Stephen Holder?

  21. Lucas Jackson Says:

    Stephen Holder says:

    “Here’s a rule to live by: Just because you hear something over and over, don’t assume it’s true.

    In this case, I’m referring to the notion that there’s something going on between Bucs tight end Kellen Winslow and quarterback Josh Freeman. I’ve explored this and found absolutely nothing.

    So, let’s put an end to this here and now: It’s unequivocally false.”

  22. Lucas Jackson Says:

    Love all the dorks that just lick up Joe’s claim of controversy.

  23. MTM Says:


    Needs to put fix both of his problem players. Cut Talib. Yeah I said it. I am sure his replacement can get burned just the same without the stupid f*#*$n penalties that make you want to reach through the TV and choke his ass. He is not going change ever.

    Then pull Windsblo a side and make it clear that his antics will not be tolerated. Then remind him about his age, knee issues and lack of practice time. The Buc’s couldn’t give him away.
    Then maybe Rah would start to get some respect in the locker room. All these young players are growing in a bad environment. Diva players suck ass.

  24. Lucas Jackson Says:

    MTM — according to Holder Winslow is the furthest thing from a Diva. Guess that doesn’t mean anyhting though.

  25. NickinMelb Says:

    Lucas if he rarely ever practices like a Diva and cries and has a temper tantrum for the ball like a diva, and can’t block worth a damn like a diva and runs his own routes like a diva, and gives up on routes like a diva he’s a diva. Also refer to T.O. except T.O. is a practice machine and produces.