Bucs Could Pick From Massive Free Agent Class
January 28th, 2011
Joe follows lockout-related news religiously but doesn’t bore readers here with the details unless they legitimately relate to the Bucs somehow.
Like every other fan, Joe just wants football and has no capacity to understand why both sides would mess with the virtual cash machine that is the NFL. Make the sure the retired players have health coverage, pay the cheerleaders more, and split the rest and go play ball.
On Thursday the NFL invited 10 media types to its New York headquarters for an explanation of the all things lockout from the league perspective, as documented by Gregg Rosenthal of ProFootballtalk.com. Rosenthal penned a brief summary of the meeting with more detail forthcoming.
Apparently, the Bucs stated distaste for free agency could keep them away from a pile of good players.
… 495 players are scheduled to be free agents in 2011, with the assumption that the league goes back to a system where four accrued seasons are needed to become a free agent. That number includes 170 starters and 70 Pro Bowl players.
It will be the biggest free-agent class ever, and it will have the highest percentage of starters available ever.
Joe’s heard Mark Dominik and Raheem Morris explain that they want to build through the draft and how free agency is the wrong path. But Joe can’t imagine the Bucs’ business model for greatness truly includes turning their nose at the biggest crop of free agents — and scores of young free agents — in recent history.
Call Joe stubborn. But that just makes no sense for a 10-6 team centimeters from the playoffs.
January 28th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
It seems that I just remember reading on here that Raheem said that if he knew we would be a 10-6 team…he would have gone after Peppers hard in the offseason. How is this year any different? He has to assume we will be in the same win range next year, so why wouldn’t we go after some really solid free agents as long as they are still relatively young.
January 28th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
I think everyone makes a mistake when they think the Bucs are solely focused on building through the draft. The idea is to focus primarily on the draft and young 1st and second year players to build the care.
Where the “evils of free agency” come in is when you make your primary focus of building the franchise on finding free agents, particularly higher priced, “name” FA’s.
I would be very surprised if Dominick, who has shown a true knack for evaluating and acquiring talent, would neglect an opportunity such as the one that may arise this offseason. I don’t think he will be going after the biggest names, but will find younger, talented guys who are on the perceived second and third tier of the free agent market.
January 28th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Why is Blount picture of this article? Shouldnt it be a game changing free agent the Bucs should take a look at, like say Lamar Woodley, David Harris, Ray Edwards, Tamba Hali, etc?
January 28th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
@ Joe
Do u remember b4 09’s draft when most people were looking at us 2 get a Jeria Perry or B.J. Raji due 2 us signing Leftwich? Also do u remember what Freeman said when interviewed after we drafted him about Leftwich? Dominik and Morris got there poker faces ready.
January 28th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
Anyone else think the CBA negotiations would go a little smoother if the NFL clubs would just open their books? It’s simple really and a CBA could be hammer out in 3 easy steps.
1) All parties sit down and open the books.
2) Discuss the long term goals for the NFL, the players and the teams.
3) Hammer out details to best obtain those goals in a new CBA and sign the damn thing.
January 28th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
^^^ except ole senile owners like Al Davis aren’t going to agree to anything unless they get their way, and players aren’t going to give the owners everything they want and get nothing in return.
In the end players get screwed, owners win. Like always. Lets just hope they realize this sooner rather than later.
January 28th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
Aint nobody opening any legit books.
January 28th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Centimeters, Joe?
You some kinda commie soccer loving Terrist?
January 28th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Oh yeah, eric?
So we didn’t go out and get the best available FA RB in Derrick Ward last offseason? Just because he didn’t work out well, doesn’t mean they didn’t spend the money.
also see: Michael Clayton
January 28th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
If there’s that many FAs, players like Ruud (a starter yet unspectacular) are risking a lot by testing the waters. A buyer’s market is not where average players want to be.
January 28th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
When you are fighting a war, you always tell your opponent what you are going to do, oh, you give misdirection so you can attain your objective instead, I didn’t know that.
Guess what is going on here with potential draftees, FAs, and anything else that will help.
January 28th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
I firmly expect them to sign one YOUNG stud DE.
At this point, I would not be surprised if they sign a LB as well, although I have looked to see what is out there.
The bottom line is MONEY. They are going to have to spend to reach the floor (how sad is that)
January 28th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
HIRE GREG OLSON
You are right about Ward. And there were other examples in the past of FAs they went and got. What they did not do, and they should not do, is vastly overpay for the big name guy just for the sake of it.
BUT, none of that changes the fact that their payroll has been amongst the bottom payrolls for about 7 years now.
January 28th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
They are committed to the same path that got them to the Superbowl last time. They’ve said that repeatedly. That plan was 1) build a solid core thru the Draft 2) sign free agents to adress needs( Ken Dilger, Keyshawn, Oben, Rice, MacCardell, etc. 3) win SuperBowl 4) sustain team! Now , with the biggest FA class ever, who has the most money to spend in the entire League? And has a talented young core in place? The Glazer/Dom/Rah genius is really fun to watch.sort of like having the most high picks in the deepest draft ever(last year), we remain one step ahead of the pack.
January 28th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Ok, the teams won’t open the books, because over the past 10 years, the league has been making money handover fist… perhaps last year was down a little.
But anyway, that historical data is now irrelevant, because forward looking, based on the fundamental changes in the economy, the expectations of revenue has been severly reduced. All of the owners know this, because they are business men, they HAVE to forecast business performance, it’s their job, it’s what made them rich.
What does all this mean? It means that the forward looking aspects of the NFL business model has changed and is going to continue to change. The CBA needs to be based on this economic paradigm shift in philosophy, not what happened historically, since the history is now out of date and not applicable to what is now and what will happen.
It would be like saying, hey, the housing market did so well and was up so big over the past 10 years, and trying to take an average of the last 10 years as an asset value factor. Well, that is not what today is. Today the Average of the last 10 years of the housing market is pointless and inaccurate. You have to take where you are now, and where it maight go when making investment decisions on these assets. Things have changed. Values are much lower. The economy is different.
And that is no different in the NFL. The owners know that things are different. Thus, the history revenue earnings are meaningless when project where this industry will go. Times have changed. In order to reduce ticket costs, player salaries will have to go down. The whole CBA model has to adjust downward.
January 28th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
FYI… on a completely different subject… check out where the Bucs stand as far as popularity when compared to other teams.
http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/messages/board-list/NFL?&_1:col_1=3
January 28th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Joe here,
C’mon Guest #27, CBS Sports’ ability to market a message board has nothing to do with the Bucs’ popularity.
January 28th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
I thought Buc you/guest 27 was banned?
January 28th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Joe beat me to it. That has nothing to do with popularity Guest27! Maybe you didn’t read enough about the link. I made the same mistake yesterday on this site so I’m not going to be too hard on ya! But c’mon man! Raiders the second most popular team in the league. That right there should have been the smoking gun.
January 28th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
I was very surprised to see the Raiders so popular. But they were like that a year ago too.
Does anyone have a better indicator of our popularity/traffic vs the rest of the league?
January 28th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Guest #27- to even ask that question confirms soooo many of our opinions of you
January 28th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
I meant that the owners are not going to show their financial statements to the players association.
January 28th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
CBS sportsline is ranked 15th in the Sports/Football/American category.
http://www.alexa.com/topsites/category/Top/Sports/Football/American
So, it does have some merrit. I personally don’t like it, it’s too liberal for my blood. But it is a decent indicator.
January 28th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
@eric,
yeah, sorry, I misread your post. my apologies.
January 28th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Oh yeah, and the Buccaneers dot com website is ranked 89th behind many, many more NFL teams.
http://www.alexa.com/topsites/category;4/Top/Sports/Football/American
Just sayin.
Perhaps Buc fans don’t have the internet? Or can’t read like other fanbases? 🙂
FYI, I AM a Bucs fan.
January 28th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
No, you are not! And Buc fans go to” joebucfan” as their site of choice. It gets alot of traffic!!
January 28th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Yes I am you dumb sh1t.
Why on earth would I read JBF everyday?
Nothing I said had anything to do with JBF. I was talking macro comparisons. Jeez.
I mean who would expect JBF to compete with the top 50 football sites anyway?
January 28th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Well JBF is awesome enough to have a dude from Ontario, Canada (me) find it and fall in love. I have been a Bucs fan since 1997. So, there’s that….I guess what I’m saying is the team and websites, can become super popular realtive to other NFL teams no matter where it is. If we keep up the talent evaluation and great coaching mix, and ownership is smart enough to learn and remember, the Bucs can create a longstanding culture like the Steelers have now.
January 28th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Well I was born in Ontario! Does that count? Grew up in BC and been living in Alberta the last few years though 😉 So yes there are Bucs fans up here in Canada. I guess growing up in a small town location means nothing to me, except that it is more difficult to find the game on TV. Might have to go to sportsbar or find online.
January 28th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
As someone who lives in a completely neutral place with no NFL teams, I think it is safe to say the Bucs are definitely in the bottom half of NFL popularity. But on so many levels, who cares? First of all, the NFL is so popular that a bottom team in the NFL is more popular than just about any other franchise in another sport. For me, part of the charm of the Buccaneers is that they are a “small market” team. The people who do cheer for the Bucs generally have a good reason, rather than “I like Tom Brady”. Small market teams have to work harder to gain fan support, and they tend to be much more fan friendly. I’ve had the opportunity to go to a bunch of Pro Bowls and meet a bunch of players, and most of the big market players are much less fan friendly. In their defense, they are probably sick of everywhere they go being harassed by autograph seekers. In contrast, the smaller market players are much more engaging.
By the way, Captain Time. At first, I thought Guest #27 was Buc You too. It is incredibly coincidental that he popped up right after Buc You was banned. However, Guest #27 uses more big words (sometimes even correctly), so they may just be 2 different losers, as opposed to 1 big super-loser.
January 28th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
While the link to the CBS forum wasn’t the most accurate way to gauge popularity, I tend to agree with you Guest27. I’m sure the Bucs are in the lower half of most popular teams. For good reason though. We were mediocre for years under Gruden without any real dynamic playmakers. When Gruden was fired there was a fracture in the Bucs fan community that lingers to this day! Rah and Dom were considered by many to be cheap, stop-gaps until the Glazers found another big name duo to bring in. After posting a 3-13 record last year, fuel was poured on that fire. There was very little national coverage of the Bucs and any story put out was negative. It’s not hard to see the Bucs fell off the map. Enter 2010! This young energetic team led by a young energetic coach started winning. Playmakers emerged and a franchise QB was born while they kept winning. Then slowly the national spotlight started to shine on the Bucs. At first it was “this young Bucs team has gotten off to a good start but will tail off as the season deepens because of all the inexperience”. Well we kept winning and the lingo became more positive. By the end of the season, ESPN and NFL network were regularly interviewing Bucs players and coaches. Hell, Raheem is on Mike and Mike so often that he should join the show! I also guarantee you that the Bucs will be in at least a couple primetime games next season. In my humble opinion the Bucs popularity hit rock bottom last season, but is on the rebound in a serious way. How you couldn’t be absolutely stoked about the upcoming years for this team is beyond me!
Go Bucs!!
January 28th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
@MOBucs,
You just put the word “mediocre” and “Gruden” in the same sentence. Prepare for the wrath of Eric and Thomas on this one. You are now qualified as a Gruden hater, may the force be with you. Good post though!
January 28th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
Business is simple. Any business.
1. Don’t get stupid with your cash
2. Expand within the limits of your talents
3. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
January 28th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Buc You has changed his name, but his breath is still the same. Smells like @$$….all the way through the keyboard.
I think we have a great team, and only need a couple players. Every one of them should come back better including the Coach. Raheem saw Tomlin go for it in the end to beat the Jets. I think Raheem will take a few more risks next season as well. he’ll have more faith in his team and rightfully so.
I would love to see Dominick go after a couple Free Agents for the Defense and maybe a Guard for the O line. Then he could get creative in the draft and only go for 2 or 3 players. That’s all they need. I like Ingram as a running back, and with Blount, look out.
January 28th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Awaiting Moderation???????? Huh???
January 28th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
@ Hawaiian Buc… Yeah I’m prepared for the onslaught, but nothing I posted is false. I was a Gruden homer for over half of his tenure, but like many, started to realize that the only thing Gruden was bringing to the table was his name. He and Allen couldn’t evaluate talent very well at all. Just look at the drafts they oversaw. The “offensive guru” label attached to him never came came to fruition either. I think when Kiffin announced he was leaving, the Glazers knew they were screwed. Without a stout D, the Bucs would become the most boring team in football! In the end, in seems to me that the Glazers made the right move. I’ve never been more excited about Bucs football in my entire life!
January 28th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
I agree, MOBucs. At this moment, Eric’s head is literally spinning like the chick from the Exorcist.
January 28th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
@BicMacAttack,
If you even type the word that rhymes with Muck Foo, your comment will await moderation. It’s kind of like a BS filter for the site.
January 28th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
@ MOBucs – I agree completely. And to add to that, the Bucs didn’t do anything for the first 4 years of their existance and carried that stink with them through till the mid 90’s. It may have been different if we would have won the SB in the ’79, ’81 or ’82, but that didn’t happen and then they were not even in the conversation again till the mid 90’s. I’m from NY and have been a pro football fan for many years and until I moved to Tampa in ’89 I didn’t really even know who the Bucs were other than an easy team for the northeastern teams to beat up on each season. Thanks to the Dungy Bucs that gave us all of those playoff births and the SB in ’02 (’03), they have built a fan base outside of Tampa but still hold a stigma of a team that just can’t quite get it done thanks to the media rehashing things like “lowest paid team in the NFL, 2 and a half decades to get their first KR TD, youngest roster and youngest coach in the NFL, etc, etc, etc…… They will have to become a dominant SB force to become something other than the NFL’s kicked horse. Not just playoffs but SB’s.
January 28th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
This is still a tired subject. There will be 495 unrestricted free agents available this year. Really?
So, when they get a new CBA and there is free agency again, none of the teams with free agents are gonna sign their own players back to new contracts before the new free agent period begins??? Everyone who’s contract is currently up will be available and teams won’t be able to sign them back, except in a bidding war of free agency?
This is ridiculous. When there is a new CBA, all teams will have some time to sign their own free agents back before they open free agency to all teams. In that time, expect a significant number of those starters and even greater number of those Pro Bowlers to be signed to new contracts with their original team and there will be an average number available to sign with new teams, just like it is every year.
I would figure the Bucs would re-sign some “free agents” to new contracts. Perhaps Davin Joseph or Barrett Ruud or Quincy Black. Or maybe Rhonde Barber. For each one signed, that depletes the ridiculous pool of almost 500 players, the starters and the Pro Bowlers from actually ever reaching Free Agency.
Until there is a new CBA, there are NO free agents.
January 28th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
Agreed BuccoBill! Respect is earned in life! The New Bucs Era is off to a great start, but needs to follow up in a big way next season! I have confidence big things are on the horizon!
January 28th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
@Hawaiian Buc Says
“Prepare for the wrath of Eric and Thomas on this one. You are now qualified as a Gruden hater, may the force be with you. Good post though!”
Mo-hallo I needed a good laugh! “May the force be with you”
January 28th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
Will these free agents cost big money? If so, cross us off the list. Not for any reason other than “they cost big money.”
This ownership prioritizes budget over all else. This makes them solid businessmen, it does not make them fan-friendly football owners.
People have tried to compare them to the Rooneys. Big difference – the Rooney’s have been opertaing football businesses for decades, they have won many super bowls, in a town that has faced much more serious economic hardships than nearly all others during their ownership years. The Rooneys know football.
The Glazers didnt know anything about football 15 years ago, and Malcolm realized it so he paid football people. Sadly, Malcolm got sick, now we have the babies running things and they went cheap. Hoping for wins not willing to pay for it. This era ownership is not 02-03 Malcolm led ownership.
Accept it – I doubt that Malcolm would have turned this team over to Rah Rah and Dom Dom. (yes dom dom has drafted well)
January 28th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
People, the popularity of the Bucs does not matter anywhere except here in this area for TV ratings and filling the stadium. Prior to the economy taking a dump, this town showed they can sellout for over a decade when they put a decent team with expectations on the filed.
The teams that are popular around the country (Dallas, Pitt, GB, Bears, Redskins, Raiders) have had a history of winning and been around a long time.
ANY TEAM, including the Texans or Bucs or Jags…., that suddenly wins 2-3 titles in a decade will have a massive national following suddenly. Call it band wagon or what ever, it’s just the way it is.
Look at the Patriots. The past decade their popularity soared because they won Super Bowls. Prior to that no one cared about them. Other than two losing efforts in the SB over decades of existence… they mostly sucked.
January 28th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
I wasn’t aware that Malcolm Glazer had died and no longer had any say whatsoever in how the Bucs are run. I guess I was also mistaken in my understanding that his sons had ALREADY BEEN running the team along with Malcolm since day one. Im so glad Thomas has informed about how this is now some totally different ownership group.
January 28th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
@ Thomas 2.2. … Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t the cheap ass Glazer sons offer Albert Haynesworth a 100+ million contract! Thank Christ on His throne he didn’t accept the offer! There was also a handsome contract offered to Vilma. The Glazers are willing to spend money when necessary, but will never be a Dan Snyder clone.
January 28th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
MOBucs- according to Thomas you are absolutely wrong. Nevermind that the things you said are facts. Pesky things such as facts don’t stop Thomas from performing the incredible mental gymnastics necessary to try and validate his incredibly irrational hatred of Raheem and the Glazers. I am 100% convinced that Thomas lives in a mental institution and is somehow using the internet behind the staffs backs. If we can just find out which one we can call them and shut this mentally unbalanced troll down ourselves. 🙂
January 28th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
@Gitarlvr,
The worst part is, we have to read his ridiculous posts all the way until September (if there is even a season). Joe could put an article about Raheem saving a bunch of sick orphan children from a burning building, and Thomas would accuse him of setting the fire. Notice how since the season is over, he posts every single day. He is not going to go away because the Bucs can’t win to shut him up until next season.
January 28th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
Ignorance is bliss!!
January 28th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
debate rule #1:
when you get personal you are conceding that you have lost the arguments on its merits.
when a team has failed to make the playoffs two years in a row, in the modern era of free agenccy, never finishing better than 3rd place out of 4 teams in its division – there just isn’t any supportable factual argument against that.
personal insults don’t make it prettier.
make the playoffs and compete, until that happens I am not satisfied.
sound familiar: well it should. because the same sheep that are screaming 10-6, third place and no playoffs is great, were calling for dungy and gruden’s head.
personally, i didnt think either should have been canned.
did either one of them miss the playoffs 2 years in a row? if memory serves no.
I, and others, are exposing your hypocrisy!!! Including many of your false prophet on afternoons on talk radio. remember some get paid for subjectivity.
January 28th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
Guest #27- No, Ass, you are not a fan. You are another loser filled with self loathing, trolling here to irate “normal” guys whose lived aren’t failures. And you are yet another incarnation of Buc You. Sadly, the 4th time you’ve been forced to change your “anonymous” screen name. And I’m the one who correctly identified your other aliases! All the way back to Rahdomthebest. One of the more pathetic people I’ve ever seen!
January 28th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
Come on looking back the past 5 seasons in the NFC South and making the playoffs with a 10-6 record.
2010- South champ Atl 13-3 wild card NO 11-5 (TB 10-6)
2009- South champ NO 13-3 SB Chmp (ATL 9-7 no playoffs)(TB 3-13)
2008- South champ Car 12-4 wild card Atl 11-5 (TB 9-7 no playoffs)
2007- South champ TB 9-7 (Car&NO 7-9 no playoffs)
2006- South champ NO 10-6 (Car 8-8 no playoffs) (TB 4-12)
So looking at this simple list 10-6 over the past 5 years would have Put the Buccaneers in the playoffs only 2 times but would have beaten our actual record 4 times. won us a Division championship (beating our own excellent record of 9-7) and put us in a tie with NO for the division crown. Your right a 10-6 record is just not that big of a deal….
January 28th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
I haven’t attacked you personally Thomas. I don’t know you. Let me know if anything I have posted is false! You seem to have some knowledge of football so you must know how rare it is for a 10-6 to miss the playoffs. The Bucs just happen to be in a very competitive division. If Gruden would have posted a 10-6 record and missed the playoffs, would you be calling for his head? I’m thinking no!
January 28th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
What you sew, so shall you reap. Personal Attack Whining? What Next? Another almost intelligent conversation plunged into the dark abyss of raw sewage thanks to our friend, hater of all things Buccaneer and all fans of the current regime.
Hopefully very soon Mr T2 Knowitall can debate himself.
January 28th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
When you refuse to leave the comments section of a blog where you are a complete persona non grata to all but one other idiot who shares your idiot opinions then you have admitted you are nothing more than an emotionally crippled troll with a serious personality disorder.
January 28th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
Thomas arent you talking about jimmie johnson in dallas missed playoffs first two years, their are alot of similarities between those two,taking over for a superbowl winner that lost his team and for gruden had no trade value at least johnson had walker to trade
January 28th, 2011 at 11:47 pm
The worst Part is how many great football discussions are ruined by two or three idiots. It’s not like they have a different opinion. They don’t . They troll here only to screw up the “normal” guys. It’s their only agenda. The proof is how they refuse to discuss or justify. They only post garbage, and respond with more garbage. It’s not fair to the tons of great guys here. We didn’t make their life choices. Why do we have to deal with their failed choices
January 29th, 2011 at 1:44 am
Amen, Captain Tim, that’s what I’ve been saying for a while now. It seems like no matter what the article, these clowns come on here and say the same thing over and over, which in turns ruins the real discussion. We probably should just ignore them, but that’s easier said than done.
January 29th, 2011 at 8:32 am
I agree. It’s even worse when they feel the need to lecture you on moral and ethics.
His parents must have a hard time finding a baby sitter for a 35 yr old. Maybe the SPCA can lend a hand.
January 29th, 2011 at 9:14 am
Joe here,
@ Guest#27 — Even if you’re defending someone calling you a non-Bucs fan, you don’t get to hurl profane insults. You’ll be gone if you can’t control yourself. …Also, please try to stay on topic in the comments. This is not a message board. Busting into a side conversation about traffic at CBS Sports.com qualifiies as completely changing the subject.
@Capt. and Hawaiian — Joe has the capability to look at someone’s entire library of posts at once. Looking at those of Guest#27, you’re being ridiculously harsh.
January 29th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Ok, Joe. But not too harsh regarding Thomas. He has no interest in the conversations or topics. As you can tell, a lot of your loyal posters are really Frustrated at the way he ruins so many great discussions. There are 2-3 guys , who seem to be out to ruin any ongoing debate on this site. It’s really not fair to you or us. We appreciate the enormous amout of work you do to keep relevant topics up On this site everyday. Its really sad that alot don’t get the thought they deserve, due to the trolls spewing their Raheem hate over and over again. It’s a song we here on every post – over and over again. It’s a topic killer- at that’s not fair to the vast majority who come here to talk football. Just my opinion
January 29th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
I dont think Guest#27 is the dearly departed guy that rhymes with Muk Foo. I saw posts from him and on the live chats before that guy was banned.(Although posting under multiple aliases at the same time is common troll strategy) But I can tell from the lack of a certain schizophrenic quality to his posts that its not Muk Foo. I don’t have a problem with Guest#27 so far.
As far as Thomas goes- he is attempting to take over this comments section and make it his own personal forum for his hatred for Raheem. He is a classic and unbearable troll who tries to dominate and ruin the majority of threads with his bile, even if the original topic has nothing to do with Raheem. When you could change the name of this site to ThomashatesRaheem.com and the name would feel appropriate, you might have a teensy bit of a troll problem. Believe it or not Joe, people like Thomas can be the catalyst that makes potential new readers and posters decide to look elsewhere for their Bucs fix. Its not about squashing dissent. Its about protecting the majority of your posters from a guy who’s only purpose is to annoy them and interrupt the conversations they want to have. And don’t give me the line of “dont like him dont read his posts” He’s a troll. Part of his game is to post SO MUCH and get SO MANY people to respond to him that ignoring him means skipping entire threads altogether.
January 29th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
You guys are being overly nice by calling him a Troll. I can think of few other choice words for our little friend from the Underworld. If it was a joke here and there, that would be cool. I like a good laugh when it is meant in fun, but Raheem has improved by at least 100% since he started and the endless hate just isn’t warranted. I know Radio Mushmouth got himself kicked out, but he had some great jokes at times. I’m as big an @$$ as some at times, because everybody has bad days, at least married fans do. And I just can’t stand Mark Sancheeze. he is so over rated by the talking heads.
January 29th, 2011 at 11:57 pm
“because everybody has bad days, at least married Fans do!” lmao!!! Quote of the month!
January 30th, 2011 at 12:49 am
I can’t stand Sanchez either, he chokes. What Middle Linebackers are free agents these days, to replace Ruud ?