A Seventh-Rounder Would Be A Steal For Stovall?
August 27th, 2010
There’s an esteemed Bucs beat writer who emphatically states that Mark Dominik would be worthy of leaguewide accolades if he traded Maurice Stovall for any draft pick.
Joe is dumbfounded.
Stovall is a dynamite special teams player on a dynamite special teams unit. And Joe knows that Stovall caught more balls (21) from Josh Freeman than any other Bucs wide receiver in 2009, meaning the two have some chemistry.
Yet Pat Yasinskas, of BSPN, thinks the Bucs would be pulling off a coup if they got next to nothing for the 25-year-old. Yasinskas explained in his Thursday mailbag.
Michael in St. Petersburg, Fla., writes: There is constant talk of receiver competition with the Bucs and trade talks. With Minnesota hurting a receiver could we send one there for a late-round pick?
Pat Yasinskas: Minnesota traded cornerback Benny Sapp to Miami for receiver Greg Camarillo on Wednesday. For the Bucs, Mike Williams, Sammie Stroughter, Arrelious Benn and Reggie Brown are pretty much guaranteed roster spots, and there’s no way the Bucs are shopping any of them. That basically leaves Michael Clayton or Maurice Stovall. If the Bucs could swing a draft pick (and I mean any draft pick) for either of those two guys, Mark Dominik instantly gets my vote for NFL Executive of the Year.
Joe just doesn’t get it. Dominik would be nuts to dump Stovall for a throwaway draft pick. As for Clayton, as Yasinskas mentioned, that would work just fine.
August 27th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Vacation Man is a moron. Joe, this guy has no credibility left and you shouldn’t even be wasting your time tracking what this clown says. Comparing Stovall and Clayton is like comparing apples to oranges.
August 27th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
The Rams may also be in the market for a guy now that Avery is out. Maybe Mark Dumbinick can get a late rounder for a guy like Clayton, Stovall, Spurlock, or Reggie Brown. I’d even be willing to part ways with Benn for a 3rd rounder.
August 27th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
I can see Clayton being a Ram…
August 27th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Westampa…Really!? You would give Benn up for a third? The guy has played two preseason games! How many rookie receivers light it up in their first year? Thank GOD you are not the GM.
August 27th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
I’m with lightningbuc on this one. Pat Yakkysak isn’t worth your time, Joe. Has he still not emailed you back? You know, the guy who wants your website to fail?
He’s clueless. He has 4 teams to cover and he doesn’t have a clue about ANY of them. And who are these nimwits who write HIM for answers about the Bucs? I feel sorry for them that he’s their “go-to guy” for Bucs news.
And what’s with people (WESTTAMPA) giving up on Benn so quickly?
August 27th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
McBuc, do you still think the Bucs would trade up in the 2nd for Benn knowing they had a #1 guy in Mike Williams? Maybe a 3rd is too cheap but either way I would entertain offers.
August 27th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
WESTTAMPA:
The Bucs traded up in the 2nd for Benn because they needed a WR. Period. And its hasnt been proven that he’s not worthy of that 2nd round pick. Besides, they had no way of knowing MW would be theirs in the 4th. Benn’s not the same kind of WR that MW is anyways.
August 27th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Further proof Vacation man is a fool:
http://www.pewterreport.com/articles/view/7376
He has Talib ranked as the #3 corner….in the NFC SOUTH!!
Joe – I’m speechless….
August 27th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
If Dominik ties his shoelaces he is executive of the year in the minds of some media members.
Amazing.
August 27th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
RED MAN:
Remember, Pat Yaz has told others that he wants Joe out of business.
People talk. Joe has ears.
August 27th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
I want Pat out of business.
August 27th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Westampa…They had no way of knowing first of all. We can play that game with any and all positions. I think it is great to get two quality receivers in one draft. I would not trade him at all, let’s see what we have first. Like Snook said, they are two dif receivers. If down the road ds have to account for two great talents it will be worth it for sure.
August 27th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Pat is losing credibility by the day.
Redman, I saw that on PR and thought the same thing. This guy has no clue.
Westtampa, hindsight is 20/20! If I knew the housing market would tank like this, would I have bought my house when I did? See how easy that is to do? We hoped MW would be a beast, you cant count on that. Benn was the necessary and correct choice.
August 27th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
One good thing about Benn, when he laid that great block to spring Brown for that long run against the Chiefs, he made Clayton completely irrelevant. It was a thing of beauty. He’s only caught one ball so far but hasn’t dropped any. Let’s see what happens for a while before we assume too much.
August 27th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Can we wait for one catch in an NFl regular season game before trotting out the “beast” label?
August 27th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
The Bucs need to keep Stovall. Trading him for a 7th round pick would be absurd! He is much more valuable than that.
This guy is idiotic!
August 27th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
I dunno, didn’t John Lynch knock out his brother in law in a game?
Maybe better off not being related!
August 27th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
that’s one of the dumbest statements i ever heard. If dominik can make #80 dissappear that would be a great. but stovall should be starting next to williams with straughter at slot and winslow at tight end.
August 27th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Dang, I aint even on the right post!
I blame Joe for this!
August 27th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Keep Stovall, ship The Blocking Icon to St. Louis for a 6th or 7th rounder in next years draft. Get on it Dominik, strike while the iron is hot.
August 27th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
We’d be lucky to get a bag of footballs for Clayton. I think everyone knows the Bucs are cutting him.
August 27th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Snook, We’d be lucky to get just the bag!
August 27th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
That is a good idea, get rid of/trade one of the WRs getting into a rythm and a connection with our QB and is a great special teamer. We don’t want that kind of player. Insert sarcasm here!
August 27th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
Trade them Bennie the Goat for a 7th rounder . I know we just spent a 2nd and a 5th on him , but it would STILL be a steal !! 🙂
August 27th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
I think that the prospect of a season of blackouts is making our Bucs writers a little wacky. Lord knows, I was on a rampage last weekend not being able to see the game.
Seriously, the amount of garbage being written about the Bucs is bizarre. (JBF excluded)
Stovall will have a breakout year this year IMHO. He absolutely should not be traded for a late round pick. Silly!
August 27th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
joe Dominik has proved there is alot of value in the 7th round
August 27th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Eric, I knew what you meant…LOL…I was hoping to hide from those posts! I agree on the labels for our new guys, good or bad we need to see them in the actual regular season games.
August 27th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
Let’s hope Benn gets a good look and does well this weekend.
Maybe it will shut mushmouth up and give him a chance to tend to his goat Sabby…he needs it.
August 27th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
@WESTAMPA Benn and Williams were drafted for different WR postions.
August 27th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
The only way to shut up mushmouth is to stick a lit stick of dynamite in it.
August 27th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
My favorite show is 2&1/2 Benn. Benn, Benn, Benn, Benn Bennly Benn….
Suck on that Mushy!
Haha, LOL, you will never shut Mushmouth up!
JimBuc will never shut up either!
Pat will never shut Joe up either!
Suck on that, Pat!!! Dbag!
Happy Friday!!! Yea! I have to work tomorrow. Boooooo.
August 27th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Bennie the Goat can easily shut me up by looking like a half-way decent player for once !!
August 28th, 2010 at 1:10 am
The guys who already want Benn gone already are nuts. It’s the preseason!!
Though, I have to admit I wasn’t all that crazy when we picked Benn in the 2nd round. I thought he had bust written all over him. I was hoping that they would’ve gotten Demaryius Thomas from Georgia Tech but he was chosen in the first round. Remember, Golden Tate was still available when they picked.
Trading up to get Benn and giving up a 5th rounder I thought was a stupid move. It was only 2 or 3 spots i believe. If Benn would’ve been taken, we could’ve still gotten Tate. If Tate had been taken, we still could’ve gotten Benn. Make sense?
August 28th, 2010 at 3:58 am
I would love it if they traded Clayton for anything. Just get him out of town. His name is too similar to one of my favorite WRs of all-time. I don’t like that. No more dropped passes. Rid ourselves of Clayton. Please.
What in the world are people wanting to get rid of Benn already? That is just insane. Come on. Stovall isn’t my favorite WR. Gruden clearly had higher hopes for him when he drafted him. He just hasn’t come through as a WR. Quality special teams guy, so I would keep him just for that. After 4 seasons, his stats read 44 catches, 579 yards and 2 TDs. That’s a half of a year for some of the guys out there. He needs to take a step up this year.
August 28th, 2010 at 9:54 am
Funny, these same people who all critisize anyone for trashing Benn, have all thrown sabby under the bus , after only 1 year as a starter and 1 as a backup ( he missed his whole rookie seasoon with a broken foot ). Most of them also threw Dexter Jackson under the bus midway through his rookie campaign…history has shown some players take years to develop , while some get it right away.
That’s fine, Sabby and Dexter officially suck . But tell me , god’s of critisism, at what point does it become ok to throw a guy under the bus. 3 games ,Half a season , 1 full season , 2 years , 3 years as a starter??
The fact is it’s different for every player. You can look at Benn and see absolutely no natural football instincts or awareness…Not only is he going to have to develop the skills of a NFL WR , like all rookies , he is going to have to magically learn how to do the instictive things…If you want to know what instictive things are, watch Mike WIlliams play.
Benn is never going to be great, mark my words. People who have played many years in the league , like Shaun King , agree with me.
Denial is a tough thing to get past for many of you , I understand. Don’t hate me because I see these things faster than most. 🙂
August 28th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Joe here,
Radio – Sabby went through training camp as a rookie and played three games. They got a good look at him then.
It’s just ridiculous to write off Benn at this point.
August 28th, 2010 at 11:22 am
You didn’t ansswer , Joe…..at what point wont it be ridiculous?? Week 8, when he still hasn’t even dressed on Sunday becuase he’s such a bum ?? You seem to think you know exactly when to call someone a bust , and you do it often, so tell me.
August 28th, 2010 at 11:23 am
I don’t see a shred of elite potential in this guy when I watch him play , so sue me.
August 28th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
@Radio Mushmouth , midway through their 2nd year.
August 28th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
I think that’s bullsh*t, topdoggie , because there are players that didn’t come into thier own until year 4 or 5. QB’s especially. There are also players that don’t see playing time thier 1st or 2nd years, does that mean they are busts also??
Of course not, which means you are being as “ridiculous ” as I . The fact is everyone has a type of player they like , and everyone can notice superior athletic ability IMMEDIATELY . Bennie the Goat passes niether of those tests for me , so if I want to say I think he will suck , I’m well within my rights. People predict rookie busts every damn day….including our beloved Joe, who convienently forgots that he declared Josh Freeman a bust the very second the pick was handed to the Commissioner.
So , in short; spare me the lecture, ya douche bags.