Donald Penn Is Not Being Picked On

July 29th, 2010

It appears that some people are of the belief that the Bucs are singling out disgruntled Bucs left tackle Donald Penn in a game of chicken between Bucs general manager Mark Dominik and Penn’s legal camp.

Woody Cummings of the Tampa Tribune writes that premise is utter nonsense, and details why on the’s Bucs blog.

Lest you get the idea that disgruntled left tackle Donald Penn is being singled out in some way, the Bucs have made it cleat that they have not entered into long-term contract negotiations with any of their restricted free agents.

Nor, it seems, do they intend to anytime soon.

With training camp reporting day now just a day away, the Bucs appear poised to wait possibly until a new collective bargaining agreement is reached before opening long-term contract talks with their RFAs.

Joe believes Penn is holding out not just for the obvious reasons, but also because, well, training camp sucks. Joe’s guess is Penn shows up sometime after the Jacksonville game (Aug. 28).

33 Responses to “Donald Penn Is Not Being Picked On”

  1. Gary Says:

    You think Penn understands what the deal is and is just pulling a Favre to miss some 2-a-days at camp?

    The situation with the Chargers bears watching. They also have a RFA LT who is not happy and their GM is taking a hard stance. But he just gave Gates a huge contract. If he starts dealing with McNeil and Jackson, then it will put more pressure on Dom to get something done.

    But if McNeil doesn’t have a deal, how can Penn say we are screwing him when McNeil is better?

  2. big007hed Says:

    I wonder how other teams look at a player who holds out like this?

    I mean is he plays for the Bucs this year and he is a free agent next year do teams think longer about him because he was so willing to sit out?

  3. Javier n Wimauma Says:

    Joe you said: “It appears that some people are of the belief that the Bucs are singling out disgruntled Bucs left tackle Donald Penn…”

    Since when is Donald Penn disgruntled?

    Is there proof of him being disgruntled?

    Or was this perhaps a poor choice of words to describe him?

  4. Gary Says:

    Of course he is disgruntled? WTF? Why else would he be holding out?

    I guess you were trying to be funny.

  5. Joe Says:


    So you are suggesting Penn is happy with this mess?

  6. Spirit of '76 Says:

    Mr. Penn might want to reconsider his position. The more time the coaching staff gets to work with potential replacement at left tackle, the more they may like that player better than #70. And that could spell the end of his “leverage” with the Bucs or any other potential NFL options.

  7. McBuc Says:

    Javier…chuck out some stats to suggest otherwise! Any buddy holding out for more money fits Joe’s description.

    Joe, are you going to write anything about the TO and Bryant situation?

  8. Capt.Tim Says:

    Penn isn’t disgruntled, or angry at management, or bitter with the Bucs! Penn is doing exactly what he should toleverage for the best deal possible. The Bucs also aren’t disgruntled. This is business as usual in the NFL. Both parties know the Dance..tug of war for the best deal! Both know Penn will play! Both know Dominck will pay! Just armwrestling over how much! And, Oh, Yeah! If I wasn’t under contract, and could get of training camp, I would!! Training camp is the worst part of NFL life for Veterans. See ya after the Jags game fellas, have fun running in 120* temperatures in Tampa!

  9. Javier n Wimauma Says:

    Disgruntled: feeling or expressing discontent or anger

    I don’t think Penn is angry. I think he just wants a fair contract. By saying he is angry makes him appear to be some type of bad guy.

    The fact of the matter is, post draft, him and his agent has been able to apply leverage on the GM and the Glazer’s to pay him as one of 32 starting left tackles.

    That really is it.

    That’s why I am against people making the players out to be bad people when they are the ones trying to get what they deserve.

    If they don’t deserve it, then the Buccaneers will have to make the choice of playing back-ups. So it really is in the hands of the Bucs management.

    But an angry Penn? To me that is an exaggeration.

  10. JimBuc Says:

    Man, of course Penn is “disgruntled.” LOL. But, Penn can be “disgruntled” with his situation without being disgruntled with the Bucs.

    Oh wait . . . Penn already said just that. Why are we talking about this still? Oh . . yeah . . . Javier . . . check.

  11. JimBuc Says:

    Javier: your hits just keep coming:

    “The fact of the matter is, post draft, him and his agent has been able to apply leverage on the GM and the Glazer’s to pay him as one of 32 starting left tackles”

    LOL. How’s that “leverage” workikng out for Penn. He lost $100K, there’s no deal in sight other than the tender and he will start to lose about $200K per game come the first game.

  12. Joe Says:


    Disgruntled: feeling or expressing discontent or anger

    Re-read the definition you posted. Hell yes he’s expressing discontent… and has.

  13. Javier n Wimauma Says:

    He has expressed discontent?

    I must have missed those quotes from him. anybody have any proof of his discontent in any quotes? If there are then I could change my position on this. But I haven’t read a quote by him being upset whatsoever.

  14. eric Says:

    Not singling out Penn.

    The Bucs are in firm collusion not to offer long term K’s to RFA’s.

    Collusion v. competitive and the bucs pick the former.

  15. Joe Says:


    You may be right. Happy-go-lucky guys hold out all the time.

  16. Javier n Wimauma Says:

    It doesn’t have to be a long term deal either. There is a way to sign him to a medium deal.

    Although, I have heard someone else mention that we wil have 17 free agents for 2011? If that is true then the Bucs have bigger problems than just Penn. How do you keep those guys interested in staying? will the Glazer’s pony up the money to keep a lot of those ‘young guys developed at home?’


    Of course, this could be the reason they don’t want o open the flood gates by over paying Penn, regardless of their desperations for a Left Tackle.

    What I don’t like about the Glazer’s is they are penny pinchers. They will, on principle, not pay someone and watch them walk away. As a fan, this sucks. Because this means that they are more concerned about their pennies than putting the best product on the field for their fans.

  17. bucfanjeff Says:

    Penn will report no later than just after the Chiefs game (8\21). That gives him 2 weeks to get in football shape, learn the new nuances of the offense, and get in some game time.

  18. oar Says:

    McBuc, I’m sure Joe isn’t going to cause, they’re the Ben-gals. But, from their site:
    GEORGETOWN, Ky. – The reports of wide receiver Antonio Bryant’s demise were premature. He said after Thursday’s first practice of training camp that his knee isn’t 100 percent and he isn’t full go, but he took all his reps and he’ll be ready for the Sept. 12 opener. He is at one practice a day and will take Thursday night’s practice off.
    But Bryant made the biggest catch of camp long before. He and Terrell Owens spoke and he agreed to give him No. 81 if Owens gave a donation to the Overtown Optimists, a football Little League in Bryant’s hometown of Miami. Bryant revealed what he told Owens.
    “I’m a realist. I’m not going to make a big spectacle out of it,” Bryant said. You’ve got a bigger legacy and number than I do. I’m a guy that just plays football. I’ve been on several teams like you have but changed my number several times and you haven’t. I don’t need your money. Just send a donation.
    “I just told them to give those kids something. At least $8,000 for all the uniforms and registration and all the equipment they need. They’re trying to get where we are.”
    Asked what number he’s going to be, Bryant said, “I don’t know … I don’t care. You know my name? OK.”
    Bryant doesn’t seem fazed in the least by the Owens signing even though it figures to cut into his production.
    “I would have gone after the guy, too,” Bryant said.

  19. The D Says:

    @ Javier,

    Who walked because the Bucs wouldnt pay him? The last I can think of is McCardell a while ago.

  20. eric Says:

    What a jerk that Antonio Bryant is.

  21. Javier n Wimauma Says:

    Wasn’t McCardell was traded?

    Every Free Agent that left for another team. That was an easy one.

    Don’t pretend that this isn’t obvious. The Glazers have choices too. They can give him more money, or make themselves look bad by staying cheap.

    It’s hard to feel sorry for the Glazers (and I say them and not Dom because Dom is just a yes man). The Glazers got the town to pay for the stadium.

    What expense do the Glazers have?
    -Player Payroll (lowest/last in the NFL)
    -Coaches/Mgmt Payroll (has to be the lowest with Raheem and Dom)
    -The loan they leveraged against the Bucs for Man U? Forgot about that one! I take it back, the owners are in deep do do financially.

  22. BucnJim Says:

    Is this Rahdom? Come on man; we know it’s you. Couldn’t stay away could you?

  23. JimBuc Says:

    Javier is definitely RahDom and he thinks he is inside OBP or in the Penn camp. Check this statement out:

    “It doesn’t have to be a long term deal either. There is a way to sign him to a medium deal.”


  24. Javier n Wimauma Says:

    If you only knew who Javier really was……. 🙂

  25. Gary Says:

    Wait, did I miss something? What happened to RahDom to make him leave and come back as Javier?

  26. lightningbuc Says:

    Geez, RahDom! “Javier n Wimauma” is the best you could come up with?

  27. The D Says:

    Just because a guy leaves the team doesnt mean that the Glazers are cheap. Who was the last player we let walk who ended up doing better for another team?

  28. McBuc Says:

    OAR…Thanks man, I guess I should have went to their site, but that is good news for them. The Bengals could be deadly this year, or they could implode. That is one hell of a receiving core. Man, I wish we still had AB to help our young guys along. His statements sure do make him look like a stand up guy. You know, Ocho and TO will be covered for sure, so AB may have one hell of a year if they can get all three on the field together.

  29. McBuc Says:

    Hey OAR, are you named after the band?

  30. oar Says:

    McBuc, No not the band, just my great-grandpappy. Those are our initials. Even though I’m more familar with the older rock bands(70s’ and 80s), I have heard of that band before and they are fairly good.
    BTW I agree.

  31. Pete Dutcher Says:

    It’s going to be hard for AB to have great stats when he is on the PUP list…or even if he plays. There is talk of him playing slot…we’ll see just how well he does there. But I suspect he’ll go down to an injury earlier in the season or before it starts.

  32. eric Says:

    And another joins the cascade of loving bucs fans wishing Mr. Bryant succumbs to injury.

    Of course he is ineligible for PUP since he practiced today, but that is besides the point.


  33. Radio Mushmouth Says:

    Xavier Fulton is the next Anthony Munoz. Why are we even talking about Donald Penn ??