Raheem The Dream The Hall Of Famer

January 12th, 2010
Joe believes its a bit too premature to compare Raheem the Dream to Bill Walsh. Or Chuck Noll. Or Jimmy Johnson.

Joe believes it's a bit too premature to compare Raheem the Dream to Bill Walsh. Or Chuck Noll. Or for that matter Jimmy Johnson.

Jimmy Johnson, Chuck Noll, Bill Walsh and Raheem the Dream.

Yes, you read that previous sentence correctly, and it does look a bit odd.

But the good folks of the Elias Sports Bureau suggest Bucs fans can do well to get used to the four coaches being mentioned in the same sentence.

In fact, the Elias Sports Bureau even suggested given NFL history, Raheem the Dream will become a multi-Super Bowl-winning coach.

The Bucs finished with a 3-13 record in their first season under head coach Raheem Morris. Note that three eventual Super Bowl-winning head coaches lost at least 13 games in their rookie season: Chuck Noll, 1-13 with the Steelers 40 years ago; Bill Walsh, 2-14 with the 49ers 30 years ago; and Jimmy Johnson, 1-15 with the Cowboys 20 years ago.

What the geeks at the Elias Sports Bureau failed to point out is that Johnson, Noll and Walsh had monster drafts the year they debuted as NFL head coaches.

Johnson, in his rookie year with the Cowboys, drafted Troy Aikman and Daryl Johnston (and some linebacker from Miami named Randy Shannon).

In Noll’s first year with the Steelers in 1969, Pittsburgh drafted Mean Joe Greene and L.C. Greenwood, the two rocks of the famed Steel Curtain’s defensive line for the next decade.

Walsh’s initial year, without a first round draft pick, he somehow landed quarterback Joe Montana and wide receiver Dwight Clark.

Did the Bucs draft a future Hall of Famer or two last year?

Joe believes it’s beyond a stretch to compare Raheem the Dream to Johnson, Noll or Walsh just yet.

15 Responses to “Raheem The Dream The Hall Of Famer”

  1. D-money Says:

    Oh no Joe, What have you done? Mr Lucky is going to have an aneurysm.

  2. Mike Says:

    That’s some pathetic analysis. Did they mention the coaches that went 3-13 one year and continued to suck their remaining years? I think that is a more appropriate comparison. These are the same idiots that compare him to Dungy when they are nothing alike.

  3. aldo Says:

    cmon Joe!!! this was hilarious at first but kinda joke for all ur viewers, is not for u, is for raheem dude!! at least now is a bad joke!! this article shouldnt be here!!!

  4. JDouble Says:

    The comparison is a joke….but to say we didn’t have a monster draft is premature. Freeman could be a HoF quaterback, Stroughter could be another Ike Hillard, and Roy Miller could be a rock for us for the next decade. Only time will tell.

    Also, we have a potentially huge draft this year. How did those three HoF coaches do in the draft thier sophmore year? If we managed to get Suh and trade for Marshall…I’d consider that a pretty monterous draft.

  5. oar Says:

    How about comparing these guys? Rod Marinelli, Gregg Williams, Scott Linehan, all went 3-13 too, LOL! Plus Chris Palmer and Lane Kiffin both started out with one win better at 4-12, LOL!

  6. admin Says:


    Oh no Joe, What have you done? Mr Lucky is going to have an aneurysm.

    LOL! Good point.

  7. Louie Says:

    Jimmy Johnson + Jerry Jones = Superbowl
    Chuck Noll + Art Rooney = Superbowl
    Bill Walsh + Eddie DeBartolo = Superbowl
    Raheem the Dream + Glazerhouse = LOSERS

    Morris is going to have to switch teams to get his Superbowl because the Bucs owners won’t spend the money to get back to the Superbowl.

  8. Paul Wiezorek Says:

    I still don’t see how anyone can prejudge Raheem’s future, good or bad. Perspective will be achieved at least two or three years from now, if he is still our coach, or when he ends his career. Even if he is fired by the Bucs next season, his story won’t be done. He is young and will coach elsewhere. Maybe leading another team to multi-Super Bowl victories eight years from now, or a flop that never has what it takes. So far, it is IMO that we should all hope for the multi-Super Bowl victories with the Bucs, and not tear him down before a reasonable time period has passed. Last year’s draft had some solid promise for the future, and we are poised for a fantastic draft this year. Time will tell.

  9. oar Says:

    Tick-Tock, Tick-Tock, Blah, Blah, Blah!

  10. Paul Wiezorek Says:

    In response to Louie, I do believe the Glazers owned the Bucs in 2002 when we won the Super Bowl. I also think they owned the Bucs when we signed a long term deal with the highest paid tight end in the NFL. I also think they owned the Bucs when they hired the highest paid Center in the NFL. They offered Haynesworth the most money to come to the Bucs last year as well. They are a team this year with A LOT of young players. Young players don’t get paid as much as older players. The Bucs will likely have to spend more money on keeping the players as they mature and rookie contracts expire, as well as signing money for high end draft choices. We are rebuilding a team from nearly scratch. The patchwork plan of the past Gruden era is done.

  11. Louie Says:

    @Paul, Glazerhouse’s spent money on the Bucs up until they purchased Man U. Since then, they have only spent the NFL minimum. Sure, they spent money on K2 and Faine, but they had to spend some money to get up to the NFL minimum.

    $30M under the cap is not going to win a Superbowl. The Bucs have the most undrafted FA’s in the league. A bunch of those young players you talk about are due for contract extensions, but you don’t see them signing any of them.

    Defending the Glazerhouse’s spending is getting kind of ridiculous.

  12. Pruritis Ani Says:

    That is a stretch.. A stretch that defies all laws of physics

  13. Gary Says:

    Must be a really slow news day.

    Please don’t ever mention Morris in the same breath as those SB winning head coaches. He’s just not cut from the same cloth next year will evidence that.

  14. bucfanlostiniowa Says:

    When I first read the story I thought I was on Buc-Em for a minute.

  15. bucsfanforlife Says:

    hmmm…I wonder if the fans of those S.B. winning coaches cried/complained about them on their first season like we are now.