Defrocking Jim Bates Saved Raheem The Dream

January 27th, 2010

Joe has written the following several times, so Joe is encouraged to read the same from the Mad Twitterer of the St. Petersburg Times, known in some circles as Rick Stroud.

Taking a break from agent-driven speculation, Stroud points out that when Raheem the Dream defrocked defensive coordinator Jim Bates, and the defense clearly improved right away, the move secured Raheem the Dream a second year as Bucs head coach.

The first-year coach led the Bucs to two of their three victories in the final month of the season after doubling as defensive coordinator.

With Morris calling the shots, the Bucs defense went from allowing 29.2 points per game to just over 17 points per game during the final six weeks.

Damn near dropping the average points allowed by 13 points is dramatic. Joe wonders if fans in the stands and fans in the bars and fans at home on their couches could see the main ill of the woeful Bucs, why Raheem the Dream didn’t pull the trigger sooner?

At least he pulled the trigger. And from a career standpoint, none too soon.

16 Responses to “Defrocking Jim Bates Saved Raheem The Dream”

  1. justin F Says:

    must be nice to have a job that you are not qualified for and when it goes bad fire everyone around you and that makes you earn a second year only with the bucs that could happen

  2. NautiBuc Says:

    Morris was keeping his job no matter what happened in 2009. No big-name coach was going to take this job because 1) low salary and 2) no spending for FA’s. They might have been able to find another rookie coach, but why bother?

  3. OAR Says:

    Joe, He should never had had to pull the trigger at all. In other words, he should never have switched to a 2-gap scheme over the Tamapa-2 1 gap, which is what we had the players for. Heck they even drafted a 1-gap player in the draft, when they were already switched to Bate’s 2-gap???? Yet he gets credit for going back to something he should never have left, LOL!

  4. mpmalloy Says:

    I take a beating for it, but I don’t think Coach Morris the problem.
    I actually think he’s good…

    ….our problem is lack of deep top-shelf talent on the team itself.

    Either develop it or buy it, I don’t care…..but honestly the Bucs have
    done a terrible job over the last 7 years. Bad drafts….really bad FA
    choices (that one is on Gruden-Allen)…

    Actually McKay looks like a draft God (no offense) in retrospect
    compared to Gru-Allen….However……I throw this right back in the laps
    of our owners………anyone who wasn’t distracted by a soccer team
    would easily see that Gruden’s forte is play-writting, play-calling,
    planning and motivation……it is NOT draft skills or team-building skills.
    That was McKay’s department…..but ownership let him go because
    they thought they could turn over everything to Gruden and then they
    could concentrate on Man-U…………bad move……..Gruden and the Bucs
    absolutely NEEDED McKay as a counter-weight to Gruden.

    Malloy has spoken.
    Let it be written.

  5. OAR Says:

    Thats like the zookeeper who catches the escaped tiger and gets the hero/credit, but they don’t tell you its the same idiot that let him out to begin with.

  6. NautiBuc Says:

    Yea, McKay did so well he got himself removed as Atlanta’s GM. McKay had 2 good drafts with the Bucs. Otherwise, his drafts were very average.

  7. Joe Says:

    ROTFLMAO!!! @ OAR.

  8. zech Says:

    I guess the ownership well realize what we have an our GM and our HeadCoach. And if we start 0-5 then they both deserve to get fired cuz from what I’m hearin from dominik to me it sounds like there not worried about wining anytime soon

  9. OAR Says:

    Malloy has left two things out of his written, pro-scout(our new GM) and college scout(14 yrs total, last 5 yrs as Director of college scouting, Dennis Hickey). Those two people are common throughout both Gruden/Allen and Dungy/McKay reigns and have everything to do with FAs and drafting.

  10. OAR Says:

    And Im not talking about Tiger “Cheetah” Woods or the infamous White Tiger!

  11. NautiBuc Says:

    zech, it’s the owners who aren’t worried about winning. I’m sure Dominik and Morris want to win, but are handcuffed by (spending) restrictions placed on them by the owners. Unfortunately, as you stated, it’s the coach and GM who will take the fall.

  12. Chuck Says:

    Malloy has spoken true
    and so it shall be written

  13. OAR Says:

    So let it be written, Chuck has written about Malloy’s spoken written and spoken about the written spoken and Malloy has written about his spoken written, but the written spoken of Malloy’s spoken written is not true written spoken knowledge.

  14. Vince Says:

    OAR is making a HUGE assumption: that Morris was the person who decided to go to the Bates 2-Gap system.

  15. jlynch1340 Says:

    Don’t forget Morris changed the scheme because he was afraid of Ryan and Brees picking them apart. Don’t give this douche credit for fiuxing something be broke

  16. OAR Says:

    Vince, Im making no more a HUGE assumption, than you guys who think Morris didnt have a say in the change of the scheme or the hiring of Bates. Dominik and Raheem both said that they decide on everthing together. Remember the Brooks and co. release presser? They both sat there and said THEY make the decsisions TOGETHER. So again, you really dont think Raheem had a hand in the decision to change the scheme?
    Let me ask you this, if Raheem didnt have a say then why give it so long to change back? Training camp and pre-season or even the first 3 or 4 games was a telling, but he waited til game 10 and you guys give him credit? The decision obiviously was there for him to make, cause he made it. I just dont want to give him credit for the late decision as some have.