Gaines Adams “Good Deal For Bears”

October 20th, 2009

Earlier today Joe brought you the tidbit that Pat Kirwan wasn’t overly impressed with the Bucs unloading defensive end Gaines Adams.

Kirwan explains in more detail why he came to that conclusion including input he received from other NFL front office types.

It’s rare to see a player traded for a second-round draft pick 37 games after he was the fourth overall selection in the draft. Honestly, I stopped looking for a comparable transaction after going back 10 years.

I asked three personnel people and two former head coaches about this trade and they all seemed puzzled. After being drafted in 2007, Gaines Adams became a 16-game starter in 2008 and was credited with 38 tackles, 21 hits on the quarterback, 6.5 sacks and six passes defended.

I recognize he was off to a poor start this season, but when you consider his salary, his ’08 production, his age (26) and his 30 sacks in 28 college starts, Tampa Bay should not have traded him. Perhaps there were other factors that drove the deal, but a second-round pick just seems like a good deal for the Bears.

Why does Joe get the impression that somehow Rod Marinelli will find a way to get more out of Adams than Jim Bates could?

10 Responses to “Gaines Adams “Good Deal For Bears””

  1. Charkh Says:

    For what it’s worth, Yahoo! Sports writer Michael Silver agrees with our angle about the Bears trade in this week’s “32 questions.”

  2. Jeff Says:

    If I were GM, I would have asked him to take a paycut, renegotiating his contract to something more palatable for a situation pass rusher\part-time player. If not, then I would have traded him. Regardless, a #2 pick was nice – now we just need the Bears to tank so it’s a high #2.

  3. BigMacAttack Says:

    Answer is:
    Because Jim Bates sucks out loud!
    Look how good the Broncos are without him.
    Bates is so bad, he will end up costing Raheem and the whole staff their Jobs.
    2 gap crap, fire that idiot now. I called 620 yesterday on Raheem Morris show. They asked me what my question was. I said “I want to ask Raheem what he thinks of the job Bates is doing? Is it good enough? How do you correct it? Should Bates be fired? and when?”
    They flat out refused to let me ask Raheem this on air. Boy this sure is Philadelphia. You can ask SOFTBALL questions too the coach that will trigger a favorable response. NO HARDBALL! NO CALLING OUT THE COACH! NO ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE FANS & SEASON TICKET HOLDERS! I can’t believe that your scumbag buddies at 620AM would not let me ask Raheem my question.

    I can tell you this though. That is the last time I will listen to the Raheem Chump Chicken $h!t Coward Mindless Dazed & Confused Clueless Poor Excuse for a POS Pop Warner Coach SHow ever again. I won’t renew my Tickets if Changes aren’t made. I won’t listen to 620 AM any more.

    That’s some real hard hitting talk radio over there at WDAE. Jim Rome would have let me ask that question. 620AM, Eff you, you suck, and I’m telling all my friends, badmouthing your scummy @$$ show all over town, every chance I get. F – U

  4. BigMacAttack Says:

    You can’t ask the coach that. you really want him to respond to what a bad job Bates is doing on the air? Well yea, hello. Do you think Bates is doing a horrible job. Well yes I do but you can’t ask Raheem that on the air. He can’t call out his coach on the airwaves publicly. Why not, that POS has called out every player on the team publicly. Why not call out Sleepy Mr Geritol on the air. WDAE 620, you can suck my …….

  5. Joe Says:


    The Bucs buy that airtime, it’s not 620’s show.

    There’s no way any NFL team that buys airtime is going to allow any anti-cheerleader call. Doesn’t matter if it’s NFL, college, any team that buys the airtime wants only supporting feedback.

  6. BigMacAttack Says:

    I got something they can support

  7. Phil a '76 Buc Says:

    To Big MacAttack:

  8. Paul Says:

    Good Let it all out man! But I have to disagree with you on one front.

    “Bates is so bad, he will end up costing Raheem and the whole staff their Jobs.”

    Do you really think he needs Bates to show that Raheem is not up for this job? This is a perfect storm, and we should all account the totality of this fiasco…unqualified, incompetent head coach with awful coaching staff, inexperienced, mediocre GM, disinterested and/or cash-strapped cheap owners, and mediocre inexperienced players. Man I hope they just win one game at least this year.

  9. BigMacAttack Says:

    I agree, but I think Dominick may work out over time…..provided he hires an entirely new scouting staff.

    Hey guys, sorry for the rant, but I had to get my Bash On. I had a legit question our weak minded Coach and he should have had an answer for it, whether they like it or not. The truth hurts, but the truth will set you free, the whole lot of you incompetent idiots at 1 Buc Place.

    I believe our players are better than what they are being coached. I would estimate that this Staff is getting about 70% of what these players are capable of. That is a “D” but 0-6 should merit an “F” or better yet an “I” for incomplete or inept.

  10. Bucsfan5 Says:

    BigMac I feel your frustration. I just think the whole offseason process the Glazers moved too quickly; we went from having Gruden fired on a Friday afternoon, to hearing that Raheem was the new coach by midnight. They took a little time (not enough I think) to find coordinators, to which Jags was fired due to lack of direction (ironic) and Bates doesn’t seem to scheme for teams AT ALL. It seems like he stubbornly brings the same damn gameplan to every game.

    Bates: “Alright boys, lets go out there…pray we don’t get burned with the deep ball and lets give up some big runs at crucial times”

    Reason I bring up his scheme (or lack there of) is due to the fact that the defense rarely looks prepared, last 2 weeks they have played pretty well for the first 20 minutes, then the final 5 of the 2nd quarter they get shaky and come out completely lost after halftime.

    I mean what exactly is Bates doing during half time? I completely agree with Steve White’s article about Bates needing to mold his defense around the players he has, not the other way around.