Bucs Got Fleeced On Gaines Adams Trade

October 20th, 2009

Joe has a lot of respect for former NFL coach and executive Pat Kirwan.

So far the things Kirwan has predicted for the Bucs since the change in coaches this January has been absolute dead-on accurate, to Joe’s chagrin. His Sirius NFL Radio show with Pat Ryan is must-listen radio for football fans.

So it raised an eyebrow with Joe when he read Kirwan take the Bucs to task for giving up defensive end Gaines Adams for a second round pick. Virtually everyone connected to the Bucs — including fans — have washed their hands on Adams labeling him a bust.

Kirwan is not among that group. He noted in an NFL.com chat Monday the Bucs made a mistake.

Jon chwecke, Great Falls MT
why would my bucs trade huge potential like gaines adams its so frustrating.

Pat Kirwan, NFL.com
Jon, I questioned it in my column today. Rarely can you find the fourth overall pick in an NFL draft traded in less than three years. Last year, Gaines Adams had incredible numbers for a second-year player. There could be financial reasons they did it, but I just sit here and scratch my head about taking a second-round pick for a guy that had 6.5 sacks, 21 hits on a QB, seven passes defended and 55 tackles last year, and is only 26 years old.

Hhhhmmm? Financial reasons? Joe smells an English kickball team.

5 Responses to “Bucs Got Fleeced On Gaines Adams Trade”

  1. Alex Says:

    “incredible numbers for a 2nd year player”?

    Did I miss something?

  2. ctord Says:

    This is what is confusing all of us Buc fans. WHAT DIRECTION ARE WE GOING?!?!?!? I have never been so confused. Is it money? Is it Man U? Are we gathering draft picks to get better? Are we gathering picks to get cheaper? What players do we keep? Who do we get rid of? Coaching? What is it? Is Gaines a bust or was it a good trade for the buc’s? Only time will tell. I can only speak for myself but I will support the bucs no matter what but please explain the direction we are going because right now I am a very confused fan and can not see where or how we are going to get better any time soon. Point us in a direction and if it does not work then it does not work but at least we tried. This seems like our owners could care less.

  3. Phil a '76 Buc Says:

    Does patting the QB on the but for successfully completing a 40 yard strike constitute a hit on the quarterback?

  4. Paul Says:

    To me this is more than just cost cutting but an absolute blatant disregard for the quality of the product. I’m suspecting they are planning to sell the team, my guess. I remember the Bucs were one of the most profitable and most valued NFL teams during their Superbowl run. I dunno maybe they are trying to lower their value? Their actions seems beyond saving money, it’s almost like they want to degrade the franchise in order to gain more buyers.

    Then again they are just drowning in debt with ManU and they are bleeding the Bucs for all its worth. Could be another year of this.

  5. Eric S Says:

    Not sure which games Pat has been watching. As a season ticket holder, I can tell him that Adams was practically invisible most games. Many of his sacks were coverage sacks or of statute QBs like Brad Johnson. The guy was very inconsistent. In some games I would just watch his rush. He would do the same pass rush move every play. It would be an outside rush and the OL would push him past the QB. The OL never had to double team him.

    And Pat’s stats are off. He had 38 tackles last season (27 Unassisted, 11 assisted). 38 the year before (28, 10). He had 10 tackles through 5 games this year (8, 2). So he was on track for less production in his third season. And only 1 sack as well. He was regressing, pure and simple. He also only had 2 forced fumbles in his career. That just isn’t cutting it.

    I love that we got a 2nd rounder for him. Did we really want to wait around for a couple more seasons to see better production? Have we not learned the lessons from the ghosts of high Bucs DE draft picks? I still have nightmares over the play of Keith McCants, Ron Holmes and Eric Curry. This upcoming draft is supposed to be one of the best, so this is a chance to get a good quality player somewhere in the 50 range. Good riddance Gaines Adams. You were overrated in college and a ghost in the pros.