Bucs At Jags, Open Thread

December 11th, 2011

OK guys, knock yourself out. Who will be the worst team in the state of Florida when the final gun sounds late this afternoon?

458 Responses to “Bucs At Jags, Open Thread”

  1. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    MJD already has 50 yards.

  2. Leighroy Says:

    Gainesville opted out of the Bucs/Jags game so that we could get the Tebows at 4:15. Sadly, I am excited about this…..

  3. canadianbuc Says:

    Must win for the organization.

  4. FIRE RAH! Says:

    I’m actually excited to watch. No worries about playoffs or even winning for that matter. Just see someone ball. I want to see our de’s ball out.

  5. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    Must LOSE for the organization (draft pick and new head coach).

  6. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    There is the great stocker u guys were bragging about

  7. simeon Says:

    if we lose, do we get a new head coach?

  8. GenocideD Says:

    Wow. How do you miss that throw to Stocker???

  9. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Uh oh, should have been 7 the other way

  10. bUcNcRazy Says:

    WE would have much better with polunzsky at MLB and foster instead of black!!!

  11. Patrick Says:

    Raheem, if you don’t win this game, you’re out of here

  12. GenocideD Says:

    Nice K2!

  13. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    With the bucs D why not! Go ahead complain why they didnt run blount

  14. Buc Neckid Says:

    Good play.
    Good Design
    Good Options
    Good Execution
    First DOwn

  15. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    Where has that play been all year?

  16. Buc Neckid Says:

    Seeing a lot of protecting the ball
    Benn could have stretch out for the TD
    Lumpy could have on the third down

  17. GenocideD Says:

    Wow, it’s nice to see us use Blount on 4th and 1. I held my breath for a second hoping it wasn’t a Benn end around!! Go Bucs!

  18. srqrr Says:

    WOW, thanks Jags, great play calling Olsen, we’re back

  19. GenocideD Says:

    We need more first downs on first and 2nd downs. We always end up with 3rd down and…

  20. raphael Says:

    is somebody besides olsen calling plays this week ??

  21. srqrr Says:

    did any one notice how the Bucs scaled back the playbook

  22. GenocideD Says:

    Who was that?! Lumpkin?????? :/ Nice!

  23. GenocideD Says:

    I don’t think we needed to scale back the offense. We just need to execute. The D is what needs scaled back. Great play calls though.

  24. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    Thomas, read all your posts so far. You must be a great guy to hang around with. Everyone loves to hear someone complain and complain and complain and complain. You should perhaps get a woman or something.

  25. Buc Neckid Says:

    More Gap Problems?

  26. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Just 9, i was expecting 20

  27. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Great design rah, just 7 there

  28. Buc Neckid Says:

    Second level again

  29. Buc Neckid Says:

    Does Jax need to throw it at all today?

  30. Buc Neckid Says:


  31. Buc Neckid Says:

    Blitz that rookie

  32. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Gabbert is horrible lol

  33. Patrick Says:

    The Jags could run the ball ALL day and get 5 yard gains at minimum.

  34. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Typical rah football

  35. Andrew Says:

    OH COME ****** ON!!!!

  36. Buc Neckid Says:

    Big, Good Hit caused that fumble

  37. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:


  38. Buc Neckid Says:

    Good pressure,
    but the Rookie QB held it too long

  39. srqrr Says:


  40. GenocideD Says:


  41. raphael Says:

    clayborn is for real !

  42. Buc Neckid Says:

    Zero Points on the Turnover = Good Job on D
    So far so good,
    Good Basic Football

  43. raphael Says:

    does talib look like snoop dog ?

  44. Buc Neckid Says:

    Freeman’s Passes don’t look right again.

  45. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    Nice 3 and out

  46. Robert Says:

    He sure does. What a clown

  47. GenocideD Says:

    Freeman’s not playing well today. Miss to Stocker, Briscoe 2x. Come on man!

  48. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    LMAO…hasit been Freeman’s Thumb for the last 2 years?

  49. Patrick Says:

    Is there a team that gets to fourth down quicker than the Bucs??

  50. raphael Says:


  51. Leighroy Says:

    Thumb? No, try shoulder… aka that injury he was held out with last week???

  52. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Gabbert is fun to watch

  53. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    Jags will get that back

  54. Robert Says:

    We knew going in that Freemans numbers sucked in the Big 12 then he sort of surprised us. This is the body of work. Need a new QB.

  55. Buc Neckid Says:


  56. Buc Neckid Says:

    Way to mix up the RB’s

  57. GenocideD Says:

    Nice block Penn!

  58. Buc Neckid Says:

    Lorig Looking for Contact

  59. ronnie83 Says:

    Go Lorig!!

  60. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    You, my friend, are an idiot.

  61. bUcNcRazy Says:

    This is a terrilbe jags team,im not getting to excited about this!

  62. srqrr Says:

    so why was Lumpkin playing before Madu, it’s like night and day,

  63. Patrick Says:

    You know what pisses me off on Lumpkin?? He didn’t even EARN a roster spot!!

    Maybe I could make the Bucs roster? I don’t have a track record just like all the other nobodies he signs.

  64. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    Yeah Robert, we have to get rid of that awful QB we have

  65. GenocideD Says:

    Was that Posluzny he ran over?! I hope so! lol

  66. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    52 secs earlier that would have been 2 1st quarter tds, geez the jags are horrible

  67. ronnie83 Says:

    This is the Freeman from last year!

  68. Buc Neckid Says:

    Good Play By Freeman
    on a QB Draw option that looked to be part of the play design
    Good job again Olsen

  69. Leighroy Says:

    Robert, you are an idiot.

  70. GenocideD Says:

    If you saw what JF did in the Big 12 you would’ve seen that coming.

  71. raphael Says:


  72. Robert Says:

    He is playing against a horrible defense. Open your eyes

  73. Buc Neckid Says:


  74. raphael Says:

    get a clue robert….free can play

  75. Leighroy Says:

    Jags have the #5 defense in the league Robert. Stop talking.

  76. WeNeedADefensiveCoordinator Says:

    Keep Olson and fire Raheem.

    This game won’t save his job.

  77. WeNeedADefensiveCoordinator Says:

    Too little too late.

  78. Buc Neckid Says:

    Blount reminds me a lot of Alstott in his first years
    Fumbles a lot
    At least we recovered

  79. raphael Says:

    glad rah is not acting like a idiot….chest bumping and high fiving.
    he seems more subdued.

  80. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    Actually Robert, the Jags have a very good defense. Maybe is you actually watched football, you would know that.

  81. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Leighroy the Jags have 3 key D linemen out today and 3 key d backs including mathis and landry – they are at 50%

  82. bUcNcRazy Says:

    Three Free agents that would have changed the season;Polunzsky,Sproles and Joseph(CB).

  83. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Jags have 25 players on IR, and 5 defensive starters ok. Dont get too giddy ladies

  84. WeNeedADefensiveCoordinator Says:

    Drew-Jones running all over the Bucs… half way to 100 yds in the 1st half.

  85. raphael Says:

    hope free is okay…we will know in a minute

  86. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    I dont think Gabbert can play catch – who drafted him

  87. bUcNcRazy Says:

    That was COOL!

  88. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Textbook Raheem football

  89. ronnie83 Says:

    Preston Parker needs to be SENT HOME!

  90. Buc Neckid Says:

    Two Fumbles by Parker.
    regardless of Good Hits,
    can’t do that the second time.

  91. srqrr Says:

    Spurlock, Spurlock

  92. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    The offense tried to shake off rah’s coaching but it is showing up on special teams

  93. tj Says:

    Where in the hell is spurlock

  94. raphael Says:

    dang..if the bucs scored again it would of been 21-0 and we wouldn’t of heard from thomas again today.

  95. Leighroy Says:

    Who cares about the personnel Thomas? They are still producing. Its not like all 25 guys got injured last week only…

  96. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Who thinks talib is packing?

  97. bUcNcRazy Says:

    alright maybe Talib can fix Parker again?

  98. bUcNcRazy Says:

    Blount,Blount and more BLOUNT!!!!

  99. raphael Says:

    aquib snoop talib

  100. Buc Neckid Says:

    Mike Williams sighting…

  101. bUcNcRazy Says:

    Donald Penn is playing AWESOME this year!

  102. Buc Neckid Says:

    See what happens when you keep runnning Blount?
    Gets better with involvement in the game

  103. bUcNcRazy Says:


  104. Buc Neckid Says:

    Right hand was obstructed from getting to that ball,
    but not held

  105. bUcNcRazy Says:

    ouch Penn got pancaked!

  106. raphael Says:

    penn got knocked on his fat ass

  107. Buc Neckid Says:

    Good call by Ref’s
    Bad Play by Freeman

  108. srqrr Says:

    Bench Winslow – he gave up on play

  109. Buc Neckid Says:

    Koenen is having an off game

  110. bUcNcRazy Says:

    Made me look stupid Penn,Thanks

  111. bUcNcRazy Says:

    why didnt Tjack lay him out

  112. srqrr Says:

    Back to REALITY

  113. Buc Neckid Says:

    Definitely not a Pro Bowl secondary

  114. bUcNcRazy Says:

    time to see Asante !!

  115. raphael Says:

    sean jones got beat bad

  116. Buc Neckid Says:

    12 men on the field
    Well at least we stopped them

  117. GenocideD Says:

    I wondered how long before the rookie destroys Biggers. Good job NOT tackling Lewis right away and going for the ball before tackling him, letting him get another 7 yards, Biggers…

  118. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Wow, sad

  119. Buc Neckid Says:

    I guess we needed twelve

  120. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Hawaiian: that defense is still here

  121. WeNeedADefensiveCoordinator Says:


    Lose Bucs Lose!!!!

    Time to get Raheem out of here!

  122. Bucfan34 Says:

    Sean Jones sucks. Ahmad Black please.

  123. Gt40bear Says:

    Sean Jones SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!

  124. bUcNcRazy Says:

    hope we keep bennet

  125. Bobby C Says:

    touchdown jacksonville

  126. Bucfan34 Says:

    two minute drill… time for freeman to throw his weekly pick.

  127. srqrr Says:

    Let’s see the Buc’s mentality now that momentum has shifted

  128. bUcNcRazy Says:

    Bench P.Parker please!!!

  129. Leighroy Says:

    Preston Parker needs to go home.

  130. bUcNcRazy Says:

    We can find someone to catch the ball on third down

  131. Gt40bear Says:

    Nice game PP, too bad you had to miss it!

  132. Bobby C Says:


  133. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    I like that Mel Tucker, he has zero talent except MJD but his players know their assignments, he has a solid disposition

  134. raphael Says:

    Raheem looks like he caught the Glazers talking to Jeff Fisher….lol

  135. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    If preston parker keeps screwing up Rah will send Brian Price home soon

  136. WeNeedADefensiveCoordinator Says:

    So sad tha this game is for Raheem’s job… even though in reality, it’s too little too late.

  137. raphael Says:

    wow !

  138. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    We are the bad news bucs

  139. bUcNcRazy Says:

    Penn is making me look really Bad!

  140. WeNeedADefensiveCoordinator Says:


  141. ronnie83 Says:

    This team is a joke

  142. Andrew Says:

    please fire the entire coaching staff tomorrow. also let the tampa lingerie football team take the field next week instead of this team.

  143. Buc Neckid Says:

    way to be playing for your coaches’ job

  144. srqrr Says:

    there could be a coaching change before the Bucs bus gets back to Tampa

  145. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Hawaiian? Hawaiian? Are you there? Hawaiian? You were so vocal at 14-0

  146. whodtbuc Says:

    Who is that cheerleader???

  147. Gt40bear Says:

    Penn is Mincie’s Beotch! He’ll of a game DP!

  148. Ryan Says:

    Is this season over yet?

  149. Ryan Says:

    Is this season over yet?

  150. k1ngAdroc Says:


  151. Bucfan34 Says:

    josh needs to stop bitching at teammates and realize he reads a defense about as fast as a lyslexic kid reads the Odyssey.

  152. raphael Says:

    Freee is a great player and a competitor….he will bounce back

  153. bUcNcRazy Says:

    Freeman is so slow in 2 min Offense

  154. WeNeedADefensiveCoordinator Says:

    Hawaiian Buc can eat a diiiiiiii! HA HA!!!

  155. Bucfan34 Says:

    bench josh please

  156. Leighroy Says:

    The whole team is Bucncrazy… everyone walks around and is slow to get up in a 2-minute drill. unbelievable.

  157. bUcNcRazy Says:

    Nice bounce back Freee

  158. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Rah looks clueless flipping his play sheet around

  159. Buc Neckid Says:

    Bad Throw

  160. Teddy Says:


  161. k1ngAdroc Says:

    this team simply doesn’t execute. No sense of urgency. All of that is coaching

  162. bUcNcRazy Says:

    Quit bitchn Freeman you threw it.

  163. Buc Neckid Says:

    AND the Jags get the ball first in the second half

  164. whodtbuc Says:

    What is the name of the cheerleader at the top of the page???

  165. raphael Says:

    bad pass by free …he will bounce back still…..

  166. Ryan Says:

    Great job Freeman. Implosion is unbelieveable

  167. So. Ill. Bucs Says:

    And it all goes to hell.

  168. Robert Says:

    Who is the idiot now boys. Nice play Josh.

  169. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    Josh Freeman is a $hit quarterback.

  170. Apple Roof Cleaning Says:

    Did you guys REALLY think we would beat the Jags ?

  171. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Sad when we have 1 good defensive player abd he is older than the coach

  172. bUcNcRazy Says:

    21 unanswered

  173. john cena Says:

    nah nah nah na nah nah nah na hey hey hey goodbye RAHEEM

  174. Buc Neckid Says:

    Joe – Colossal Meltdown = end of Rah?

  175. k1ngAdroc Says:

    I hate to say this but CAR is YUNGRY!

  176. Leighroy Says:

    The jags have officially scored the most points they have all year, surpassing their previous season best of 20, and the 1st half isn’t over yet……

  177. GenocideD Says:

    Imagine that…the Jags are giving the ball to the guy they give it to 90% of the time…

  178. Andrew Says:

    these fans are right freeman will bounce back….to throw another interception

  179. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    Josh Freeman is a really big steaming pile of dump.

  180. Buc Neckid Says:

    Look at the loafing coming back to the Defense.
    No Urgency.
    No Aggression.
    Even a Rookie QB is going to town on them

  181. raphael Says:

    game is not over

  182. Deputy Buc Says:

    ugh… this team is imploding…

  183. Buc Neckid Says:


  184. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    We r blaine crappert look great

  185. Deputy Buc Says:

    Rah looks like he lost his confidence. So does the team. Freeman even looks a little flustered.

  186. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    We need to draft a quarterback.

  187. Robert Says:

    Go Josh Go. If you suck in the Big 12 you’re gonna suck in the NFL. Bye Raheem.

  188. srqrr Says:

    in the words of Reggie Bush, we suck, everybody sucks, the team, the secretaries, the janitors, everybody

  189. k1ngAdroc Says:

    when i played ball, whenever you crossed onto the field of play you NEVER walked….EVER! Coaches didn’t allow it. Your walking on the field you obviously aren’t that into it, so you can sit on the bench.

  190. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    28 1st half points to the Jags, with Crappert and 25 guys on IR coming off a Monday night game short week. LOL

  191. Jerry Says:

    Bye Raheem. Nice knowing ya.

  192. Bucfan34 Says:

    think denver will trade us Tebow?

  193. GenocideD Says:

    Good job, Biggers!

  194. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Lets give rah one more year, really?

  195. srqrr Says:

    Congrat MJD

  196. Robert Says:

    Who’s the idiot now Leigh Roy? Dumb Ass.

  197. Buc Neckid Says:

    Same two in the secondary getting toasted again
    Biggers and Jones
    Does every O.Coordinator just tell their QB to find these guys and that is the only game plan needed

  198. k1ngAdroc Says:

    we made up for our poor tackling effort by fumbling every time we touched the ball

  199. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Where is Joe and Niko!

  200. Jorge Says:

    Sadly, Rah should be fired at the end of the game…Sit Freeman for the year say he’s hurt I don’t care, anything before he’s completely ruined…enough

  201. Leighroy Says:

    Thomas, you said it. They have a special teams, defensive and 2 offensive tds. Hey remember when it was 14-14 at the 2 minute warning and we had the ball????

  202. raphael Says:

    you are robert

  203. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    Freeman = overrated garbage

  204. k1ngAdroc Says:

    how did the jags score 28 on us in the first half???? they average like 13pts a GAME?

  205. Youngry? Says:

    Complete garbage. This game is over. I hope the next 4 losses (including this one) ends Rah’s career. The team is garbage and don’t care. The only ones playing are the rookie DEs and Barber. Wow. We are losing to a crappy team with a rookie quarterback again.

  206. WeNeedADefensiveCoordinator Says:

    Hoping that the Glazers can Raheem at half time.

  207. Architek Says:

    We should be pulling for a loss to get a better pick and an early Morris exit. The Bucs are easily the worse team in the league.

  208. losing hope Says:

    this is bs! I’m tired of wasting my Sundays on this garbage

  209. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    Sorry guys, but I feel the need to Thomas Josh Freeman until all you sheep realize Josh Freeman is the worst starting Qb in the league.

  210. WeNeedADefensiveCoordinator Says:

    28 in the 2nd quarter!

  211. Robert Says:

    Leigh Roy. Mever mind. It’s Raphael who is the biggest idiot of them all.

  212. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    The Fox guys fumbling not to say Rah sucks!

  213. Pete Dutcher Says:

    Freeman is still a good QB…this season is the first real test he’s had. He’ll make mistakes and learn from them.

    Game ain’t over yet!

  214. tj Says:

    Penn a top left tackle yeah right . Raheem gotta go and before yall start blaming freeman …. Wrs need to run right routes and get open . Worst coach in the NFL

  215. raphael Says:

    jags scored on defense, special teams and offense

  216. Bucfan34 Says:

    Les Miles for coach!!!

  217. WeNeedADefensiveCoordinator Says:

    Isn’t it also entertainment to laugh at how terrible the Bucs are?

  218. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    Lmao..this is what I call a well disciplined football team. Bye bye Raheem.

  219. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    Freeman has played one good game all year, sorry Pete.

  220. Robert Says:

    Raphael for coach. That way freeman can stay.LOLOLOL

  221. Bucfan34 Says:

    pete, freeman sucked in college, sucked as a rookie, and sucks this year. so out of 6 years as a starter, he’s been good for one of them.

  222. Leighroy Says:

    Robert, you suddenly feel vindicated through someone else’s failures? You’re a class act brother.

  223. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Bkny: at least give free the chance to play outside of the influence of the worst head coach in nfl history, if he continues to play like this under Fisher then move on

  224. raphael Says:

    Freeman is a franchise QB….how much practice do you really think he got the last 2 weeks,…bte sean jones and preston parker gave up td’s

  225. losing hope Says:

    good point bk. Maybe Joe was right before Freeman was picked . He is garbage. And I’m expecting a Freeman jersey for Christmas.. This sucks

  226. Robert Says:

    Thank You! How do you like that Raphael?

  227. WeNeedADefensiveCoordinator Says:

    Raheem = Gone

    Next up, fans go after Josh Freeman.

    Oops! Oh my how have the tables have turned?

    Trent Dilfer anyone? Vinny T?

    I like Free though… but he does still need to turn it around next season.

  228. Mr. Lucky Says:

    Freeman is throwing this game away – literally

  229. Robert Says:

    I am a class act and not an idiot like you and your boyfriend Raphael.

  230. Bucfan34 Says:

    wanna know what freeman was ranked according to passer rating his last year in college in a 12 QB conference? Starts with a 1- and ends with a-2

  231. raphael Says:

    robert….. Free is not going anywhere….Rah will be but not Free

  232. Pete Dutcher Says:

    I won’t bash…and it doesn’t matter what everyone thinks of Freeman…it matters how good he becomes in the future.

    You do not develop a QB by giving up on him. He has the tools. He’ll be fine.

    A lot of QBs do okay their first full year, then suck in their second full year. Why? Because defenses start game-planning for them better and the QBs are forced to evolve their gameplay. Freeman is simply going to have to evolve in the off season.

  233. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    Sorry Thomas, I didn’t mean to use your name as a verb. I agree with you often times, with the exception of McCoy; but, come on, Freeman hasn’t even looked decent. He has a total lack of awareness and he’s inaccurate. Period.

  234. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    I’m here. Unlike you, I am not happy. You, on the other hand, are having a great day. Good for you.

  235. Leighroy Says:

    You guys are all the worst. Freeman wasn’t the worst QB in the league 20 minutes ago, and you all turned on him like disloyal Judases. Did Freeman blow donald Penns block? He threw a bad INT sure, but damn, you guys are like spoiled only children. The dude is 23, and is FAAARRRR from the weakest link on this team. Grow up.

  236. passthebuc Says:

    The comments started so emphatically positive and shortly degraded into fact.

  237. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Rahs plan for curing this horrible football: scale down the menu, simplify.

    Well, how is that for a diagnosis?

    I will handle the post-game. “we need to play better, faster, yungrier. we need to execute, we are not mentally weak.”

  238. Patrick Says:

    WTFFFF ?!!!!!!!!!!!


    I took a break from this game for 45 minutes and they’re down this much?!

  239. Leighroy Says:

    Bucfan34…. are you refering to the year that Freeman was honorable mention all-american and had 34 tds to only 8 ints? Great argument pal.

  240. Gt40bear Says:

    How quickly a losing culture an be created! Whether Raheem can be a good coach is now moot. The Bucs need to do something to reverse the players’ mindset. This team reeks of 1995!

  241. Bucnnole Says:

    Raphael is a clown. Rah is gone and whoever comes into this mess will have to clean house. Sean Jones wouldn’t start for a mediocre college team and E.J. Biggers should be cut at halftime and take a Greyhound home.

  242. Bucfan34 Says:

    if rah is gone, so is freeman. trade him for a 4th rounder and draft Robert Griffin.

  243. BucsTIMEisdrafttime Says:

    Look let’s face it. Josh Freeman is not a good quarterback. Will he ever be a good quarterback. Last year showed that he could be but it’s the tease effect. By the time Tom Brady was 24 yrs old he won a super bowl. With no starting experience. Josh will have 2 1/2 years of starting experience next season. Matthew Stafford has less starting experience then Josh and is lighting it up. Now we are going to have probably a top 5 pick. So guess what Matt Barkley or Robert Griffin will be there. I say take em. DO NOT BE THE TYPICAL GM/HC and not draft a guy because you don’t want to admit a mistake on the last guy. Pull the trigger!

  244. passthebuc Says:

    Freeman’s age is showing with his outward frustration.

  245. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    I don’t think you give up on Freeman, Pete. I do think we draft a Qb to develop.

  246. Pete Dutcher Says:


    This isn’t college, and he did not suck as a rookie. The rest of the team did.

    This is only his second full year in the pros. And frankly, I won’t “hope” for him to fail simply to prove a point. Will you?

  247. Mr. Lucky Says:

    Passthebuc wrote: “The comments started so emphatically positive and shortly degraded into fact.” – kinda like the Bucs season right?

  248. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    Out coached again

  249. Theodore Says:

    Alright Raheem, time to unleash the offense!

  250. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    No prob BKNY, you are mostly right I just think Free would play better under diff coaching

    Hawaiian: Im not enjoying this, just weighing in, you know my wish was that we not be stuck in this rah nightmare in the first place, 3 wasted years later its over

  251. Mr. Lucky Says:

    Can we leave Raheem, Olsen and Biggers in Jacksonville when the team comes home?

  252. passthebuc Says:

    Freeman needs to grow up. He will probably be good in 2 more years.

  253. srqrr Says:

    Can you hear the coach’s halftime speech, for 20 minutes, we played, hard, we played smart, we played physical, we played consistent, then we woke up and we are who we thought we were and i wish you guys luck the rest of the season

  254. Patrick Says:

    If F’kn JACKSONVILLE and Blaine GABBERT blow this team out, Raheem is gonna be fired. I can’t see how he won’t. This is pure embarrassment!!

  255. Mr. Lucky Says:

    Maybe the should put Rhonde on the offense? But I doubt freeman could get him the ball anyway.

  256. passthebuc Says:

    Theodore: they have unleashed the offense, it is very offensive.

  257. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    Sorry, leighroy…
    I’ve been saying Freeman is garbage for weeks on end. It’s been constant.

  258. raphael Says:

    lmao @ bucnhole get a clue….go root for the packers since you want instant sb

  259. Patrick Says:

    SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THE JAGUARS HAVE 28 POINTS JUST LIKE THAT? When I took a break from this game, we were up 14-7, 45 minutes later, it completely flipped the other way!!

  260. Pete Dutcher Says:

    BKNYfootballhead , I think it’s too early to draft a QB for development…Freeman is only 23. I do think he would benefit from the presence of a wise veteran QB.

    And note to others, Freeman is not the one losing this game. Neither is Raheem. If you look to the players, you’ll see the right coverages are called, they are just not playing well.

  261. BucsTIMEisdrafttime Says:

    The idea that this guy(freeman) would get better with different coaching is laughable. If you cannot through accurately for Raheem, you can’t for Andy Reid, Bill Cowher, you name them. He is not an accurate. He is not going to be accurate, and this is what you can expect forever w/ him.

  262. Bucfan34 Says:

    i guess haynesworth has been benched as a scapegoat for quincy black being a bitch.

    anyone else wish we had percy harvin instead of josh?

  263. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    Thank god we didn’t screw up our chances for a top 5 pick

  264. Leighroy Says:

    BKNY, Freeman hasnt played great, you’re right. BUT, dude has a bum shoulder, a line that cant block, a defense that couldn’t stop Plant HS, and WR’s and TE’s who couldn’t catch a cold.

    I’m not saying your wrong, but I’m saying you should probably point fingers at about 15 other places on this team before you start putting your franchise qb out to pasture………

  265. Pete Dutcher Says:

    Patrick Says:

    December 11th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
    SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THE JAGUARS HAVE 28 POINTS JUST LIKE THAT? When I took a break from this game, we were up 14-7, 45 minutes later, it completely flipped the other way!!

    Bucs turnovers leading to TDs…including on special teams. Freeman through one pick, but the defense failed to recover.

  266. Bucfan34 Says:

    receivers haven’t dropped a single pass today and freeman has 2 turnovers.

  267. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    We are playing with zero emotion on defense. We make a tackle for a loss, and nobody so much as even gives a high 5 to Jackson.

  268. Bobby C Says:


  269. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    …and if Freeman regress’ next season? The team is young, Freeman will benefit with pressure on his hide. Another Qb needs to be developed. I hope we take the best Qb that slides. A veteran is needed to teach a couple of guys fresh behind the ears, not one that looks like he’s lost after 2.5 seasons.

  270. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Has Price been sent home yet?

  271. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    I’ve no need to point the fingers at the defense. As a whole, it’s to blame. Coaching, too. But somebody has to realize our franchise is arguably the worst player on offense.

  272. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Bobby C.

    Fans like Pete think Rah is doing a wonderful job

  273. Bucfan34 Says:

    bench freeman!!!!!! how do you throw it behind a guy 2 feet away from you????

  274. Leighroy Says:

    Jeremy Trueblood and Kreg Lumpkin vehemently disagree with your statement. Get a clue!!

  275. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    The solution: “youngry”

  276. Pete Dutcher Says:

    BucsTIMEisdrafttime Says:

    December 11th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
    The idea that this guy(freeman) would get better with different coaching is laughable. If you cannot through accurately for Raheem, you can’t for Andy Reid, Bill Cowher, you name them. He is not an accurate. He is not going to be accurate, and this is what you can expect forever w/ him.

    The Tampa fans said the same thing of Vinny, and he went on to become one of the better QBs.

  277. Leighroy Says:

    HAHAHAHA ok I’m done. Even I can’t defend Josh now, today. This is ugly.

  278. raphael Says:

    and the next coach of the bucs is…………….jeff fisher

  279. BucsTIMEisdrafttime Says:

    BKNYfootballhead Says:

    December 11th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
    …and if Freeman regress’ next season? The team is young, Freeman will benefit with pressure on his hide. Another Qb needs to be developed. I hope we take the best Qb that slides. A veteran is needed to teach a couple of guys fresh behind the ears, not one that looks like he’s lost after 2.5 seasons.

    To add to that if you look at this QB he doesnt seem to have any play calling authority, which means that they don’t trust him to call the right play or understand the coverages. When you see 7 man front maybe just just there should be a hot route ready to be called to stop these blitzs. He doesnt even see it. I will say the receivers are not any better. But he could call something in the huddle to give them a tip.

  280. Robert Says:

    Hey Raphael. That was a helluva pass. Let’s extend the boy’s contract.

  281. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Bucfan34: i think it was tipped

  282. Youngry? Says:

    This offseason we have to clean house. Rah, Olson are gone. Half the team should be sent packing. Draft good players and not relying on other peoples trash. Let’s for gods sake sign some good free-agents.
    Another INT. this game is over. 4-12 here we come. I wonder what pick we will have? 2nd pick?

  283. Patrick Says:

    JUST THINK…..we’re going to be humiliated on national TV on Saturday by the Cowboys!!

  284. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    I hate being right about Freeman. I do. It’s true.
    I know I come off as a prick, but he’s so off.
    There’s not a worse Qb in the league with more starts.
    It’s not even close.

  285. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    Thomas, it was way off target.

  286. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Thankfully rah simplified things, Brian Price is getting nervous

  287. raphael Says:

    does Raheem make it through the season?

  288. Patrick Says:

    Blaine Gabbert will have his best game of the season today!!

  289. Gt40bear Says:

    This is like Groundhog’s Day and Back to the Future having a love child!

  290. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    That was a stupid throw by Crappert

  291. raphael Says:

    YEAH BABY !!!!

  292. srqrr Says:

    Foster, Foster

  293. GenocideD Says:

    Come on Mason, don’t mess with our Top 5 pick! 😉

  294. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Crappert misread the coverage like a rook, they were in zone, not man

  295. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    What is the NFL record for turnovers?

  296. raphael Says:

    damn ! wait that was freemans fault!

  297. Robert Says:


  298. Pete Dutcher Says:

    THAT’s why the Bucs are losing…it ain’t all Freeman.

  299. RastaMon Says:

    it’s recovered by the Jaguars @ they 32…..bwhahahaahahaah

  300. BucsTIMEisdrafttime Says:

    Pete Dutcher Says:

    December 11th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
    BucsTIMEisdrafttime Says:

    December 11th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
    The idea that this guy(freeman) would get better with different coaching is laughable. If you cannot through accurately for Raheem, you can’t for Andy Reid, Bill Cowher, you name them. He is not an accurate. He is not going to be accurate, and this is what you can expect forever w/ him.

    The Tampa fans said the same thing of Vinny, and he went on to become one of the better QBs.

    Wow…just because you play 20 plus years doesnt mean your one of the better QBs. Most of the time it was Bill Parcells pulling Vinny from the moth balls. Look Josh Freeman may get another shot somewhere else and he may play for 20 years, but has Josh Freeman or Vinny T. ever shown for one second that they were ever going to be a super bowl winning qb. Well Vinny didnt and I dont think Josh has or will ever show it. Now do I want them to trade or cut him. NO. Draft a QB, like San Diego did when they already had Drew Brees. That lit a fire under Drew Brees and now he is going to be hall of famer and has won a super bowl. Hopeful it does the same for Josh.

  301. srqrr Says:

    effort fumble

  302. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Blount has 4 fumbles in his last 3 games

  303. GenocideD Says:

    They need to slow down the replay. Was Blount’s butt down before it was stripped???

  304. raphael Says:

    we still have a chance to draft LSU cb claybourne

  305. Patrick Says:

    Sorry Myron Lewis you’re too late. 2 years in and you’re just now doing something?

    Sorry, we’re going to get an actual shutdown corner this offseason.

  306. Bucfan34 Says:

    he was down.

  307. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    In all my years of watching football, I’ve never seen anything like this.

  308. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Pete is finally correct, it aint all Free. It is almost entirely horrible coaching

  309. Leighroy Says:

    How quickly you all forget last year. Regardless of the opponents, those 4th quarter comebacks are still legit. Dude is having a bad year, and a worse game but he can’t catch a break from his coaches or his teammates. You are all the worst fans for throwing him under the bus like this. It’s disgusting me.

  310. Gt40bear Says:

    Gotta play smarter!

  311. raphael Says:

    down by contact

  312. GenocideD Says:

    We’re gonna get screwed b/c of the camera angle.

  313. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    We aren’t getting this call

  314. Leighroy Says:

    Still our ball plus the 15 yard personal foul penalty!?!??!?!

  315. Pete Dutcher Says:

    lol, BucsTIMEisdrafttime , so you are saying that you want Josh to go elsewhere and win a superbowl???

    (shakes head in astonishment)

    Heaven forbid he gets better HERE and wins one, right?

  316. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    This will stand

  317. k1ngAdroc Says:

    I’ve never seen a team turn the ball over like we have the last 3 weeks. absolutely amazing

  318. RastaMon Says:

    4 straight poscession resulting in a turnover…..a record never before reached and never again threatened…

  319. raphael Says:

    Free is still DA MAN !

  320. Bucfan34 Says:

    4th quarter comebacks against sub-500 teams usually means the offense was pitiful for 3 quarters.

  321. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    I think this is one of the worst nfl teams in years, but even I havent given up on Free

  322. Steendahl Says:

    maybe they thought that since they were doing so good, it was the end of the game?
    i hope they fire olsen and reheem but you are wa over the top on freeman! did you expect him to play like a pro bowler when the entire team (him included) have regressed from last year. like others have said, QBs tend to do bad in their 2nd starting year. also, dont compare him to Tom Brady, except to point out that it is possible to go from being mediocre in college to being an MVP

  323. BucsTIMEisdrafttime Says:

    Leighroy Says:

    December 11th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
    How quickly you all forget last year. Regardless of the opponents, those 4th quarter comebacks are still legit. Dude is having a bad year, and a worse game but he can’t catch a break from his coaches or his teammates. You are all the worst fans for throwing him under the bus like this. It’s disgusting me.

    This is not a bad year. This is what he is. Two years in this offense and he play well one year poor this year. Your giving him a pass when he doesnt deserve one. He is a great guy. But that is not what wins football games. We need a qb that can read a defense, look off defensive backs, audible to correct play and throw accurately. If you think that Josh Freeman will be able to do that great. I don’t think that he will be able to do that consistently.

  324. raphael Says:

    agree with Steendahl …

  325. srqrr Says:

    let’s go free

  326. Leighroy Says:

    He is 23 bro. You want him to play like he is 33? I want winning lottery tickets too, but unlike you, I don’t cry when I don’t get my way.

  327. raphael Says:


  328. Pete Dutcher Says:

    I’ll just say it…you are wrong. Period.

    Thomas 2.2
    I’m consistantly more right than you are, so I don’t think you should talk. Actually, I don’t think you should be allowed to talk at all.

  329. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    It isn’t all Freeman, but he still sucks.
    Jake Locker didn’t start and he’s already got more yards.

  330. raphael Says:

    sad thing is there are losers on this board hoping for another freeman int……sad

  331. Bucfan34 Says:

    that wasnt a hold, that was a pancake.

  332. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Why blount is out on pass plays

  333. srqrr Says:

    terrible call, good block blount

  334. Leighroy Says:

    8 penalties + 6 turnovers = same amount of pts scored today. yikes!!

  335. Bucfan34 Says:

    would it be too much to ask josh to throw mike williams a 50-50 ball?

  336. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    I pay for my NFL ticket and root for the Bucs every week. I don’t want Freeman to suck. He just does.

  337. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Pete: you predicted the bucs would win the south, that rah was a great coach, that we would beat the packers and texans LOL , I can keep going with horrible predictions from you

  338. raphael Says:

    free has hardly practiced in 2 weeks …..

  339. ATLBucsFan Says:

    i just dont get how idiots can keep blaming raheem for this crap. uh HELLO!? if you have a functioning brain in your head you’ll know this is almost entirely Josh Freeman, and Preston Parkers faults. FREEMAN SUCKS!!!!! i desperately want to believe he is the QB from last year but just when i think he cant play any worse. i’m sorry but if your blaming raheem for this your on the anti raheem train anyway and nothing was going to take you off. even the hideous play of our QB

  340. GenocideD Says:

    Has he hardly practiced all year?

  341. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    Free has played one decent game all season.

  342. k1ngAdroc Says:

    everybody knows this game was a very winnable game and the jobs are on the line for the entire coaching staff. it looks like there will be big changes coming

  343. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    Sorry, ATL – Morris sucks worse than Freeman.

  344. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Atl: are you rah rah’s brother? No non-family member would possibly believe that, except Pete

  345. raphael Says:

    field position now

  346. raphael Says:


  347. Leighroy Says:

    This may be a silly question, but is a penalty still a penalty if its declined? I.e. graphic just showed jags w 6 penalties, but we just declined the last 2. Does that mean they have 8 or still only 6?

  348. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    Top 5 reasons Bucs suck.
    1) Defensive tackling
    2) Play calling/coaching- both sides
    3) Lack of playmakers on offense
    4) Josh Freeman
    5) Penalties

  349. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Lets stick with run down 14

  350. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    what’s yours?

    Don’t include McCoy.

  351. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Great drive

  352. ATLBucsFan Says:

    look i agree raheems defense is god awful. terrible, pathetic, ugly, worthless, and invisible. but i just gont know that im ready to give up on him as a head coach. We desperately need a D coordinator and Greg Olsen needs to go. but unless we could land Bill Cowher i just dont know changing coaches would change anything. face it. we have the cheapest owners in the league and this is all really their fault.lol i think that we can mostly agree on

  353. Pete Dutcher Says:

    Thomas 2.2 Says:

    December 11th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
    Pete: you predicted the bucs would win the south, that rah was a great coach, that we would beat the packers and texans LOL , I can keep going with horrible predictions from you

    I also predicted that:

    – The defense would struggle this year
    – That Biggers would cost us games
    – That penalties would be an issue all year
    – That we would lose our first game
    – That expectations were too high on Freeman and that if he did poorly the fans would turn on him
    – That the offense would be forced to carry the team in the first half of the year, and would struggle to do so

    I could go on as well. And shoot me for being overly optimistic in regard to our season from the start. Heaven knows life is so much better being negative all the time like you.

    And I still say this game isn’t over.

    We can still win this game.

    What amazes me is that so many so-called fans are HOPING for losses the rest of the year. People like you suck as fans.

    That’s why I do not think you really are a Tampa fan.

    And, BKNYfootballhead, I’ve bought tickets to every home game played in Tampa this year, without being able to attend the games. I can show the stubs. I would love for you to do the same.

  354. srqrr Says:

    what happened to the quick slant or allowing your receivers one on one with the jags back up cornerbacks, whenever the ball calls to Lumpkin, it’s like surrendering 3rd down

  355. Pete Dutcher Says:

    And PS…mine are not just stubs.

  356. Bucfan34 Says:

    josh only throws the ball when the receiver is wide open. never gives Williams a chance to make a play.

    horrible call on Clayborne.

  357. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    1. Worst head coaching in the league in decades.
    2. Undisciplined players by nature and coaching
    3. Limited budget
    4. No veteran presence
    5. Bad bad fundamentals, see #1

  358. BucsTIMEisdrafttime Says:

    Working…Drew Brees didnt resign with SD because of a shoulder issue. Obviously if Josh is the man and becomes the QB we want him to be then if have an asset in Matt Barkley or Robert Griffin to trade. You know assets, things of value that bring more in return. Like the Patriots always do. More pick to fill the roster. We are at least 2-3 years away from being a playoff contender.

  359. raphael Says:

    looked like all shoulder pad to me

  360. srqrr Says:

    another terrible call

  361. Architek Says:

    Oh remember that FA linebacker Pos, he’s monstering the Bucs…how about that for a productive FA? And who are our LBs again?

  362. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Biggers cant cover when holding

  363. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    You’d love for me to get season tickets when I don’t even live in Tampa? What are you getting at? I should buy a product I can’t use.
    I haven’t had cable for 12 years, now I pay for it year round just for the NFL ticket and the ability to watch Bucs games.
    Please. I’m as much a fan as any.
    Hell, I’m here. Aren’t I?

  364. D-Rome Says:

    The Bucs have seemingly quit on Raheem. If they lose this game Raheem needs to be blown out. If they lose it’s clear he’s lost the team.

  365. Mark Says:

    See Ya Raheem! After Freemans 2nd quarter interception I noticed Josh standing by himself on the sidelines. Every great quaterback in the league would be sitting looking at pitures of the defensive secondary with his defensive coordinator. Oh? We don’t have a defensive coordinator?This coach has lost his team.

  366. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Atl: i agree ownership stinks, cheap players and even cheaper coaches

  367. Leighroy Says:

    Biggers SUCKS OUT LOUD, Barber is old, and Talib is either injured or puting his future at risk. We might have the worst secondary in the league.

  368. BucsTIMEisdrafttime Says:

    It’s amazing how poor this forum is to communicate a thought. I never said that he need to be Tom Brady now or Peyton Manning at 33 but you dont see this type of regression ever from a QB that is going to step up and be a franchise qb. ever. Name me one QB who had such a drastic change from 1st to 2nd season then drop back to rookie performance levels and become an all-pro qb. There are none. Not JohnnY Unitas, Joe Montana, Dan Marino, Troy Aikman, Terry Bradshaw, Warren Moon, etc.

  369. GenocideD Says:

    We can still get this done. Plenty of time. Briscoe, Parker, Williams time, Bucs!

  370. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    That’s pretty much all on the coaching, Thomas. Defense is abysmal and the players fundamentals are putrid. Agreed.

  371. higher728 Says:

    Put Morris in the Captain Fear outfit. Maybe he will do some good for the team that way.

  372. raphael Says:

    Raheem is done ….bet it happens after today…

  373. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    It’s rare, but it happens. Aaron Rogers regressed his second year.
    Freeman never looked amazing last year, just disciplined.
    You’re right in that he can’t read coverage well. That’s the kicker. He should be much better with 2.5 years experience.
    Most of all, it’s his vision and accuracy. It’s just not NFL material this year.
    I’m hoping he’s got an injury he’s playing through.
    He looks chubby and he’s surely afraid of the hit. He rarely tucks the ball and runs anymore. Today’s TD was a rare occasion on the year.

  374. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    How exciting would it be for the area if Rah were fired tonight?

  375. raphael Says:

    time to go watch porn

  376. raphael Says:

    could happen tonight thomas

  377. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Glad we simplified things

  378. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    I want Raheem out too Raphael, but who is going to be our coach? Olsen. Please!

  379. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    That’s hilarious, Thomas.

  380. Russ Says:

    I’ve been saying it for weeks. We’re the worst organization in the NFL. Yeah, there’s a nice stadium and training facility leveraged off of the backs of taxpayers…but the product in those buildings smells like red tide. Right now were getting out muscled and out schemed by another mess of a franchise. Gabbert’s play from the 2nd Qtr on has been FAR superior to Freeman. I think Josh can be salvaged, but it’s looking more and more like a real project. Brian, Joel, the whole family…please tell me you’re watching this and that it makes you want to puke. Tell me that you care. You used to. This can’t go on. Give us some hope and fire Morris tonight. That’s the XMas present we all want/need. Spend some money and get the ship righted. We want to love this team again. We want to get back to the stadium. We want to buy merchandise. We want to care. Right now YOU’ve created apathy by tolerating us getting WORSE week in/out. WORSE. DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!

  381. k1ngAdroc Says:

    maybe they will make the DC our new HC…

  382. Jerry Says:

    How the HELL did this team beat the Saints?

  383. Architek Says:

    The problem with firing Raheem is that you’re gonna have a hard time getting a coach here that can use these players. It’s basically gonna extend a rebuilding process. Also there is no guarantee the next regime or HC will be committed to Freeman, which also sets us back. Basically, we are screwed 360 with sorry owners.

  384. Patrick Says:

    We just got beaten by future HOF quarterback Blaine Gabbert

  385. Leighroy Says:

    BKNY…..”I’m hoping he’s got an injury he’s playing through. He looks chubby” uh do you follow your team? Do you know anything at all? And the “chubbyness” is a flackjacket that he has to wear bc his line cant block.

  386. srqrr Says:

    I hate to say it-I was an optimist this season, now I’m only optimistic about the draft

  387. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Right on russ, talk to Pete, he thinks things are great. Still betting on a comeback Pete? Another horrible prediction – add that one to Pete’s list.

  388. SkookumSmitty Says:

    Russ: I was just chuckling to myself that the Jags probably scored ANOTHER touchdown while you were typing that.


  389. BucsTIMEisdrafttime Says:

    I just want it understood. I think Josh can be a good quarterback but dont take if for granted. If we draft a qb to push him. He either will sink or swim. Look the broncos draft a qb to replace John Elway once(Tommy Maddox) and I don’t think it would hurt to put some pressure on Josh, thats all.

  390. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Architek – so you want the alternative, keep horrible rah and his crappy players – yeah that will speed up improvement? Brilliant

  391. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    Look at his round face and bellybutton circle. Look at him with a t-shirt on. He’s got bitchtits.

  392. Eric Says:

    I dont think raheem morris needs to be fired but i think this game will be the one that does it. up 14-0 and then we turn the ball over three times and they go up 35-14. This team needs to have there heads and hearts checked out. There is no way in heck i would allow a crummy butt team to beat my butt the way the jags have beat the bucs in this game.

  393. Apple Roof Cleaning Says:

    Fire Mark Dominick too, it’s not just Raheem doing this, it is the players Mark Dominick provided.
    Don’t let Tampa waste another draft with Mark Dominick at the helm.
    Tampa will probably make Raheem the scapegoat, and keep Dominick.
    I hope Raheem goes public after his certain impending dismissal, and spills the beans on Mark Dominick.

  394. Patrick Says:

    We should’ve just kept Gruden and gotten Dominick as the GM still.

  395. Ryan Says:

    We should go no huddle all game

  396. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    He needs the push. It needs to be more of a threat than an overpriced veteran with a short future, too. I hope we have somebody besides Carpenter for training camp.

  397. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Eric: is that you? Rah doesnt need to be fired. What are you rooting for 0-16 next year

  398. k1ngAdroc Says:

    game…… blouses

  399. Leighroy Says:

    BKNY, put the bong down.

  400. Bucfan34 Says:

    Robert Griffin!!!

  401. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Guys – what did u expect putting Mark Dominik the trading card magnate and Rah Rah Morris the mumbling d backs coach in charge of our franchise? I mean honestly, they were hired bc they are cheap. Period

  402. Rickster Says:

    Omg, what a f’ing joke. Blown out gabbert and the jags …

  403. Miracle Says:

    Who are some up and coming OC’s and DC’s in the league we should be looking at?

  404. Patrick Says:

    Is there another Eric on here? Cause the one we know would never ask Raheem back for another year lmao

  405. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Nice defensive play call bennet on lewis

  406. k1ngAdroc Says:

    carved up by “don’t hit me” Gabbert

  407. Architek Says:

    No what I am saying is that the front office have pinned us in a corner because they drafted the type of players that only Tampa would want. The problem is that no proven winning coach will want to come here and use these idiots. Even Freeman future as a franchise qb will be heavily questioned by a new HC. Which is why Dominik should be jettison also for handicapping the Bucs personnel too. Cheap owners and no playmakers almost guaranty that the losing will continue for years with these players.

  408. Leighroy Says:

    It’s officially Tebow Time. C ya guys.

  409. Patrick Says:


    Norv Turner as OC and get Monte Kiffin and his son over to Tampa.

  410. k1ngAdroc Says:

    I’m really interested to hear the presser after the game

  411. Thomas 2.2 Says:


  412. Patrick Says:

    But we have to fire Raheem first or no one will want to come here….no coaches or free agents.

  413. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    The Jags are taking it easy on us! Lol

  414. k1ngAdroc Says:

    Spagnuolo will need a job and he will be a great DC (4-3 blitzing d)

  415. Theodore Says:

    Perfect hit by Biggers.

  416. k1ngAdroc Says:

    GO BUCS!!!

  417. k1ngAdroc Says:

    Patrick is right, we can’t have a lame duck coaching staff…

  418. Architek Says:

    This is utterly embarrassing, not even David Stern could litigate or right this ship.

  419. Russ Says:

    I was going to type another plea, but was afraid that we’d fumble or let Jones-Drew score AGAIN. I wonder if Pete Mangurian is sitting back and laughing at the outcome of Olsen’s victorious power struggle? That guy did more with less than any other Bucs’ coach in history last season. He actually managed to get guys off the PS to play hard and smart for him and even adapted the running game to Blount and Caddy. Glad we canned him.

    We had our Trent, they have their Blaine…kinda cosmic

  420. higher728 Says:

    another record setting game by the opposing team

  421. Raheemstinks Says:

    wow raheem gets fired today

  422. srqrr Says:

    last week Cam Newtown gets offensive player of the week, this week, MJD will get it – another terrible call by the refs on Biggers

  423. k1ngAdroc Says:

    i bet that DC get’s fired in Tampa

  424. Jerry Says:

    Lose 41-14 to the Jags?

    What moron here is going to defend Raheem after this catastrophe? The entire coaching staff needs to be fired!

  425. Robert Says:

    Going for two is totally bush league

  426. Ryan Says:

    JAX going for 2….. dic ks

  427. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Mel Tucker is a real coach

  428. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    whew…held them on that 2 point conversion attempt.

  429. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    The Jags are clowning us

  430. Baja Alabama Says:

    Dear Coach Rah,
    Bye Bye!
    Love, One of your former supporters

  431. Apple Roof Cleaning Says:

    You are correct Russ, we replaced BOTH the O and D Line coaches from a 10 and 6 team.
    The result, total humiliation by the freaking Jaguars, the freaking Jaguars.
    WHy is no one screaming for Mark Dominick’s head, why is this all on Raheem.

  432. k1ngAdroc Says:

    time for V formation

  433. srqrr Says:

    what’s a good Mock Draft site?

  434. Buc Neckid Says:

    Isn’t the Cowboys game going to be fun this Saturday Night?
    Any chance that the league can flex schedule it off the National Stage?

  435. Patrick Says:

    YO. Is there anyone on here that thinks Raheem should return next year?????

    Anyone?? Who does?

  436. Buzzsaw Says:

    Jags 41 – Bucs 14

    This is your Team (brain) on Rah (drugs).

    Any questions?

  437. Theodore Says:

    Why do the announcers keep saying “unanswered” points? Shi**y defense is the answer.

  438. Buc Neckid Says:

    Want to see some interesting TV?
    Stand By after the game,
    the local Tampa Fox station is doing a post game show.
    I’d hate to be the reporter in the local room for that assignment.

  439. mark2001 Says:

    Just like replacing the school superentendant.

    There were some that said…”who can we get? Maybe the status quo is better than nothing.”

    But the bottom line is that if you have a poor staff, you have to replace them as a lame duck situation solves nothing.

    Raheem is getting the blunt of the problem, but I hold Dom more responsible, as it was he and the Glasers that said, let’s dump Ruud and Caddy and only sign one FA….a kicker.

    The dead fish stinks from the head, as they say.

  440. higher728 Says:

    seven turnovers now! 7!

  441. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Pete thinks Rah should be given a minumum of 27 years to make the playoffs

  442. Patrick Says:

    @Buc Necklid

    Another thing, we’ll have NO primetime games next year AGAIN.

  443. Capt.Tim Says:

    Just a poorly coached team, that has given up. The D-line is the only unit that shows any life. Change has to happen.

    And in stupid choices. Last week , Bowers had one of the best games a Tampa DE has had in years. The only bright spot, in his first start.

    So this game, they move him to DT. ??????

    Stupid moves like that get you fired. And you deserve it.

  444. Ryan Says:

    Icing on the cake. Put in the worst back up QB in the league to put out the 7th turnover. GREAT coaching

  445. Patrick Says:

    Hello Glazers!!! We just got f’kn BLOWN OUT AND DESTROYED BY THE JAGUARS!!!

    The 2008 Lions would for sure beat us.

  446. Teddy Says:


  447. Thomas 2.2 Says:

    Only a 27 point loss to one of the league’s worst teams

  448. raphael Says:

    nice knowing you Raheem

  449. Bobby C Says:


  450. Patrick Says:

    I live in San Antonio.

    There’s no way I’m going to a bar on Saturday to watch the Cowboys vs Bucs game.

    There’s no way I’m gonna sit in that place, with my Bucs gear on, surrounded by a bunch of proud Cowboy fans and be humiliated.

  451. passthebuc Says:

    I can think of 4 players on the defensive side to keep. Maybe even 5 or 6. That includes subs.
    On offensive, again 5 or 6.

    And in the future, when you pump someone up as a defensive potential, don’t tell me how fast he is, I want to know if he has a motor and can hit.

  452. passthebuc Says:

    I would think a statement from ownership is forthcoming. If not, It is clear that nothing will change until after next year.


  453. GenocideD Says:

    Patrick Says:
    December 11th, 2011 at 5:20 pm

    I live in San Antonio.

    There’s no way I’m going to a bar on Saturday to watch the Cowboys vs Bucs game.

    There’s no way I’m gonna sit in that place, with my Bucs gear on, surrounded by a bunch of proud Cowboy fans and be humiliated.

    Funniest post of the afternoon! I seriously just LOL’d!

  454. D-Rome Says:

    Joe, do you actively delete posts in this thread?

  455. Joe Says:


    You know you’re breaking rules and you know why Joe deleted those. Joe’s doing you a favor.

    That subject you are ripping is taboo here. You know that.

    Don’t go there.

  456. D-Rome Says:

    Joe, I apologize. I did not know the rules. As a matter of fact I tried looking on this site for certain off limit subjects and I could not find a list.

    Please delete any other posts that break any rules I may have posted, say, in the past ten minutes. I visit JBF every other day or so and always on Sundays so if certain topics are off limits and mentioned in another post of yours I did not know.

  457. Joe Says:


    Joe has written many times about said subject for over the past two years. MANY, MANY times.

  458. Gt40bear Says:

    Dear Bucs,