“It Is The Single Worst Loss That Any Team Has Suffered This Entire NFL Season”
December 13th, 2025
Pulls no punches.
Well, Joe guesses this is one thing for Bucs fans to be proud of.
Closet Bucs fan Peter Schrager has taken his street cred to BSPN. Regular readers know what Joe thinks of BSPN. So, sadly, Joe doesn’t get to see a lot of what Schrager has to say anymore.
It sucks because Joe is a big fan of Schrager.
He, like all Bucs fans, is outraged at what happened on Thursday night. Joe even suspects Schrager, as a pure football fan, didn’t expect what was to come, even though Joe could see this truck coming straight down I-275.
Schrager said in no uncertain terms there is no loss in the NFL this season as bad as what the Bucs shat on the field of The Licht House against the Dixie Chicks.
“It is the single worst loss that any team has suffered this entire NFL season,” Schrager said, incredulous at the outcome. “You consider the stakes and what was at cost? That’s an eliminated team already, the Atlanta Falcons. They’re playing without Drake London, their best wide receiver. …
“A hard, hard loss. They were up 14 points in the fourth quarter to a team that’s already been eliminated at home and, oh, by the way, the Falcons had 19 penalties last night.
“Inexplicable! If you’re a Tampa Bay Buccaneers fan, you are sick.”
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Joe knows the Bucs are still in the hunt for NFC South title. But man, that was a dead man walking team on Thursday night, specifically the defense.
Bucs coach Todd Bowles after the game looked like a totally defeated man. Like his soul was ripped from him. How does a bad team — and that’s what the Bucs are right now — bounce back from that?
The only way Joe can see the Bucs saving their season is if the offense goes out and puts up 40 points in both games against the Stinking Panthers.
As good as the Bucs’ offense looked Thursday night (sans the interior blocking), they still only scored 28 points. But the offense finally breaking out with all the skill positions healthy may be their only hope.
December 13th, 2025 at 12:07 am
watching the Buc’s documentary, I thought, “this family is not getting any younger. ” I don’t see Bowles next year. I see a big swing. Too many decent pieces here. With a healthy offense, a middle of pack defense would get it done.
December 13th, 2025 at 12:10 am
I’m very surprised by the total collapse. I’m not surprised at all that a 60 yr old defensive HC is in over his head in 2025.
I have no idea how the glazers thought that this would work long term.
December 13th, 2025 at 12:23 am
The Glazers relied on Jive talking BA. They got no pushback from Bud Licht who spends most of the time blending in to the woodwork.
BA saved Bud Lichts job once.. now he’s going to cost him his job.
December 13th, 2025 at 12:23 am
I’ve read this site for years. I’ve never posted. I’ve watched some really really terrible Bucs ball. This game was the most devastating I can remember. Mike being so distraught captured all our feelings. Third and 28… Lavonte’s last season being just absolutely wasted. I’m tired.
December 13th, 2025 at 12:26 am
Let Em Bake is channeling the same thoughts I have. The release of this documentary dooms Bowles on so many levels. We all watch and see it as a precedent for what they *must* do next.
We didn’t need jury tampering, but we got it and are in full agreement.
December 13th, 2025 at 12:28 am
I think alot of them are to blame. Between Bowles Licht & the Glazers. The D has the talent on it but somebody else needs to take over & it would probably turn around after that. There’s no way the D should be struggling like this with players like Lavonte Vita Antoine Yaya Kancey & some of them. Sure Lavonte is older now but he’s still capable of being a reliable LB & I think they should seriously consider moving Kancey to DE.
December 13th, 2025 at 12:28 am
This loss must be a kick in the nuts for the Glazers. Thursday night on Amazon, the same day your multimillion dollar docuseries debuts you lose in spectacular fashion. To a team that is already eliminated, who committed 19 penalties. Without their best WR and QB who is out to pasture. Coached by a former Bucs HC. Came from behind down 14 points halfway through the 4th qtr to kick a game winning FG as time expired. Glazers who take extreme pride in the on field product must be extremely besides themselves. I would be.
Schrager is 100% spot on, this was the worst loss this season by any team.
December 13th, 2025 at 12:31 am
I agree with the sentiment here. Watched the first five episodes and was struck by a few things. One, how completely different and utterly unlike our past defenses, our current defense looks. Two, to the glazers Philosophy throughout the episode as I’ve watched with them doesn’t bode well for the coach.
December 13th, 2025 at 12:37 am
Until the owners step up and do the right thing, It sure doesn’t seem like winning is all that important to them…
December 13th, 2025 at 12:38 am
It’s not coaching when you give up a 3rd and 28 with the game on the line that’s unfortunately a lack of heart. A lot of guys on that defense need to be gone next season.
December 13th, 2025 at 12:43 am
This team does not deserve to make the playoffs. It’s just exactly that simple.
Tank for better draft position at this point.
December 13th, 2025 at 12:49 am
Worstest lost of the seaston
December 13th, 2025 at 12:55 am
I bought a toilet seat, and wrote Fire Bowls in red. I will wear it around Tampa.
December 13th, 2025 at 1:14 am
LOL SoFierce. The only way I am staying positive is that I remind myself that the Saints beating the Bucs will probably cost them a chance at drafting a franchise QB in April. Art Blank may decide to keep Cousins as his QB while they figure out what is up wth Penix and the Falcon win, costs the Rams a few spots in the draft because the Falcons did use their 2026 first round pick to get that Pearce kid from the Vols who got multiple sacks Thursday night, the same kid that Licht deemed a character risk. Maybe the cancers in the locker room will expose Licht’s use of “good character” as a big decider if to target someone in the draft under review. The loss should mean the end of Bowles, hopefully next year the defense will actually abolish soft zone and use edge rusher to rush, not get burned over the middle by pass after pass. The loss could also expose the cancers in the locker room and perhaps some will be removed via trade, free agency, etc….. Perhaps Licht is held accountable for not being able to
December 13th, 2025 at 1:22 am
(continued) evaluate properly in some areas such as edge rush and be forced to seek outside help. Perhaps he will be told that he is not in mensa and thus should not think that every draft pick has to be hoarded and make a trade or 2. Heck trade some of the Bucs so called “character” guys on D like Winfield and Zyon…..
Another plus is that the Bucs will have a second or third place schedule, let the Panthers play the NFC elite with the first place schedule team. BTW, Mike Evans was one of the few Bucs who gave 110% last night, his reaction after the D lost the game shows that he cares, those Bucs who were all giddy on the sideline after the game should be put on notice. The way I look at it the Bucs and us Buc fans have hit rock bottom. From rock bottom, there is only one way to go. Up!
December 13th, 2025 at 1:28 am
3rd & 28….4th & 14…rinse & repeat
December 13th, 2025 at 1:44 am
This season is over.
The Dolphins are going to kick our a$$ and the Panthers will beat us at least once out of those 2 games.
Postseason hopes gone.
December 13th, 2025 at 2:01 am
This is reminding me of the 2002 team. Lots of strange things happening at One Buc.
Go Bucs!
December 13th, 2025 at 2:01 am
I watched that last play several times. Sills was covered in press man. Why? If he was not supposed to be there.. call a time out! Huddle your defense and remind them their rolls. I know, they should know better, but this unit time and time again busts coverages. We have a reactive coach, when proactive measures , in game, are needed. I remember shanahan seeing Steve Wilkes ( dc) fiail to correct a coverage during the Super Bowl and called a critical time out to fix the coverage. Don’t think I’ve ever seen that with Bowles ….
December 13th, 2025 at 2:56 am
All good….lining up for draft position…LETS GO!!!!
December 13th, 2025 at 2:59 am
Keep giving up….just a little D…just a little D, kid playing mfs….YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!!!
December 13th, 2025 at 3:04 am
This all started when Reddick came here….he should be let go immediately….I see it, others see it….hes become a locker room cancer! And yes, it doesnt help that Todd dont know what hes doing…he has to go too….
December 13th, 2025 at 3:37 am
Chukwuma is way better than Mike Jordan or Feeney.
Put Wirfs at LG. He’s massive.
Put Chukwuma at LT.
December 13th, 2025 at 4:52 am
Yes, it was a very tough loss. We are sick over it and the Bucs could of and should of won. The Falcons had so many penalties. But the refs didn’t fully help us either. It was a heart-breaker for us. However, the Panthers could lose this weekend, and the Falcons could lose next weekend.
Todd is toxic trending now, and it seems as though everyone are now going after him. It isn’t all on Todd’s shoulders. Many are on the hot seat in the league right now. If Todd goes; coaches, staff, trainers, Grizz, Jason, and others will most likely go too. Total rebuild. And if Todd goes to another team, would Baker go with him? A lot could happen.
Watching the “Raise the Flags’ 50 years, it does feel like going back in history. The Glazers have the money to rebuild. They give to many, many other projects. When needed, they could do it. We don’t know the fine print in Todd and Jason’s extended contracts either. So everything is fluid. But will firing Todd and others solve all problems?
Hoping the Bucs win the rest of the games. Can’t give up. And we can’t do a replay of the Lovie/Jason time before we got Jameis. Go Bucs!
December 13th, 2025 at 5:00 am
We’re not a bad team…we are not a good team….
We are 7-7.
An average team.
We still have a chance to go 10-7
I have a feeling they are going to pick themselves up and surprise everyone.
December 13th, 2025 at 5:05 am
heyjude, if Todd goes to another team? Put down the pipe, no team is going to hire that clown. The only reason Todd is a HC is because his boy Arians gifted it to him. Todd was never going to get a HC job in the league. The Glazers should’ve never went along with that scam. They will rectify that mistake at seasons end.
December 13th, 2025 at 5:30 am
why dont we get the Kelvin Sheppard for HC? they punched us in the face and knocked out literally our HOF receiver with back up dbs!!
Key Aspects of Kelvin Sheppard’s Defense:
Philosophy: Focuses on “relentless effort,” “nasty,” “tenacious” play, and accountability, with players supporting each other.
Adaptability: Builds schemes around existing talent, unlike rigid systems, allowing for versatility.
“Firefighters”: Calls his defense “firefighters,” ready to put out fires and make critical stops.
Player-Driven: Believes in putting players in positions to succeed, leveraging their strengths.
December 13th, 2025 at 5:47 am
When Bowles was promoted, my Jets fan friend from NY immediately called laughing and said it was a hire that Tampa would soon regret. And to prepare for a slow burn before it all blows up. Todd kills teams slowly. Quite the prognosticator, my friend.
We spoke at length, and from that day forward I was never a Bowles backer—Day 1!
Two months ago, many here had the Bucs winning the Super Bowl and Baker winning the MVP. Where are you now?
I was called a HATER for speaking my version of the truth when, in reality, I wanted nothing more than for this team to excel. I just never believed we’d do it with Todd Bowles.
The experiment is over.
Players are hanging heads, dragging chins on the sidelines.
Dean was willing to give up 8 million to get out of here.
Every injury comes with the mystery of a poorly written novel.
Trask, no matter what you think of him, was never given a shot and was back stabbed out the door. He was the better backup option.
And so on … and on …
Yeah, there’s still a mathematical chance to win the division as we control our own destiny. But with morale so “high,” does anybody think it achievable?
December 13th, 2025 at 5:49 am
Still no one talking about the “Simultaneous Possession” call that sealed this loss! If the refs don’t make that ridiculous call the Bucs as crappy as we are, still sit in the drivers seat. The league appears to be covering this up like it’s related to the Epstein files. No one, not the game broadcast, not the local or national media has said a thing about a call that doesn’t exist! Why hasn’t the team filled a formal complaint with the league? The officiating in this league is criminal!
December 13th, 2025 at 5:55 am
Hey Jude: what Hodad said. And I will add that Arians has really taken the Glazers for a ride.
December 13th, 2025 at 6:07 am
Conte——
“The officiating in this league is criminal.”
Agree, especially if I was a Falcons fan who watched his team overcome 19 penalties, many of them bogus, to win the game.
And you complain about one call/non call against the Bucs?
The Bucs had numerous opportunities to put this game away, and the refs did all they could to help. And they still couldn’t do it.
Baker, despite a great run for a few games, has become the Baker many of us thought he was. And that’s not a good thing.
Watching a player who was teetering on the edge of greatness, suddenly fall into the pit stink is disheartening to say the least.
My disdain for Bowles is well documented, but Baker has had more than his share of poor play to bring this team down.
December 13th, 2025 at 6:16 am
About halfway through Raise the Flags. Enjoy seeing Ira and his role. I had forgotten Lynch was a baseball player too. Great Defense was what I remember Tampa being about but my memory didn’t do that late 90’s early 2000’s defense justice. They may have been as good a defense in the history of the league. And the Glazer’s siblings have a passion for the game that seems genuine. Hope we can keep Bowles because I think he’s a good football coach.
December 13th, 2025 at 6:18 am
JA, my nephew who’s a Jet fan told me the same thing. I was never on board with the Bowles succession plan. I have never been a fan of Bowles. I’m not a fan of defensive HCs. When he was promoted, we all knew his defense was flawed. We won with Gruden, and Arians, need an offensive minded HC in a league that’s driven by offense. Glazers blew it letting Coen walk for Bowles. Hopefully they fire Bowles, and find the next Coen. Joe’s job might depend on it. I know I’ll checkout if bowles is retained. They’ll be nothing new to read about if Bowles returns. We’ve seen that movie more than we would’ve liked already, we know the ending.
December 13th, 2025 at 6:24 am
I pray we do not make the playoffs. Who wants to watch us get our asses kicked? This team has no heart, regardless of talent. Watching this version is a waste of time. They suck. Pretty simple. Ship ain’t turning around. How many players need to yell at the team? Smh. Bunch of f@ckin amateurs Donny
December 13th, 2025 at 6:28 am
“Kirk 3rd and 28”
December 13th, 2025 at 6:30 am
I didn’t think the offense looked good. Baker was seeing ghosts. Doesn’t look the same
December 13th, 2025 at 6:34 am
I’m as convinced as anyone that it’s time for a change, but the blame on the owners and GM seems a bit overdone. It is fair to say the last three years under Bowles has been slowly improving. Optimism was high at the start of the season and I thought we had a team that could compete. After a 6 and 2 start I was convinced we did.
This collapse is horrific and for whatever reason the coaches seem to have lost the locker room. They are too conservative and it’s time for fresh blood. If we do change HC then ownership/front office will have course corrected after half a season and the first time results really justified a change. Compare that to a team like the Steelers who have limped along for years. In reality there are maybe 6 championship level coaches for 32 teams. Expect it to take a while to find one again. Remember Kyle Shanahan’s season is going to end the same way as ours.
December 13th, 2025 at 6:34 am
This loss feels worse than the colts coming back from 35-14 in 2003. I mean at least that was a HOF QB with a great offense. We let Kirk “garbage” Cousins do this to us. He struggles against everyone else. He would be a HOFer if he played us every week.
December 13th, 2025 at 6:49 am
JA, you are correct that the Bucs had no business winning this game but the Falcons 19 penalties are because they are a bad team, and bad teams make what 5-6 false start penalties alone. Bad penalty calls are a problem, but simultaneous possession on a fumble? Maybe if two guys clearly got the ball at one time in the open field, but in a scrum it has always been who ever wanted it most at the bottom of that pile. Do I think we deserved to win? No, might be better in the long run that we lost. My issue is that this awful call has been swept under the rug, out maybe it’s just that no one outside Tampa even watched this game.
December 13th, 2025 at 6:49 am
Bowles hasn’t been called to the office yet? What’s wrong with the Glazers?
December 13th, 2025 at 6:52 am
Our DBs are still having communication issues, big shocker. Pair that with a non existent pass rush, and you have a defense rivaling that of the lost decade. Todd Bowels= Mike Smith
December 13th, 2025 at 6:53 am
Ah, the team imploding, my main focus is our undrafted offensive tackle, and my true love, Joebucsfan giving me entertainment….it feels like I’m 10 years younger
December 13th, 2025 at 6:59 am
We wasted a great Mikey performance, he looked in vintage form. If we lose him next year, I will be very upset, but I wouldn’t blame him. I think he knows the specter of Brady’s winning ways is vanishing from the team. The stench of the lost decade is returning. And the ironic thing is that Raheem(who kicked off the lost decade)has owned the Bucs these last 2 years. If not for Baker’s heroics week 1, he would be 4-0 against us.
December 13th, 2025 at 7:04 am
At least Mike Smith never let Matt Ryan throw for over 500 yds during his tenure. Don’t think he ever gave up a 3rd and 28 either.
December 13th, 2025 at 7:15 am
We brought in Schiano, the disciplinarian, because of Raheem. Remember 2011 I think was our franchise record for the amount of penalties. 19 penalties. You can’t make this stuff folks.
December 13th, 2025 at 7:44 am
Not feeling confident at all that they will win the division. The secondary needs to be revamped. Some coaches need to go. Sorry Todd. I like you but I like the Bucs better.
December 13th, 2025 at 7:49 am
YEP !
and the POINT of the loss
Had nothing to do with the POINTS!
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Same old pattern with the Glazers and coaches going back to Dungy
and Jamyth
It’s one thing to be patient and give things time and other to hold on too long wishing and hoping for a turnaround
That’s why you hire a professional manager
Jason????
Ronde Barber 4 Next GENERAL MANAGER
December 13th, 2025 at 7:53 am
I second that SB! Rondé for GM!!!
December 13th, 2025 at 8:01 am
The only issue with this team is Todd Bowles, if he stayed as the defensive coordinator and we hired a head Coach after Bruce Arins the would have the another ring. Some coaches are Head coaches and some a coordinators. I wish no bad will towards Todd Bowles. Some will rehire as a defensive coordinator again after the Bucs let him go after this season. He has a track record of head coach for some reason he can get his players ready on both sides of the ball or he is handcuffing his team because he wants to control both the offense and defense. Remember Liam Cohen came here on the premise he was the only person calling plays. Look what’s happening in Jacksonville. Todd Bowles is the only problem with this team. Write that down Joe.
December 13th, 2025 at 8:25 am
I’m afraid that the interior line will continue to be abused next week against the Panthers with the monster they have at Defensive Tackle Derek Brown!
December 13th, 2025 at 8:33 am
Bucky Irving caused division some how while he was out. There’s more to that story. I’m convinced he had some back and forth with a 3rd party medical team and the Bucs team doctors and eroded trust between players and the organization. This happened with AB – the Bucs organization is not handling injuries properly and it’s a sensitive subject for players. This is not simply “fire Todd Bowles.”
December 13th, 2025 at 8:45 am
How do people claim that “it isn’t coaching”?! If that’s the case, how do these young coaches take over losing franchises and turn them around? WHO is in charge of the product that we see on the field? It’s the coach’s job to COACH and hold these knuckleheads accountable when they mess up.
December 13th, 2025 at 8:55 am
This implosion is centered on the defense exclusively. Bowles has laid down the gauntlet and if this a full blown insurrection, we will soon find out when some players begin to hit back. They’ll do so naturally off the record. When we hear the rumors we will know definitively that he has lost the team.
December 13th, 2025 at 9:03 am
In fairness, the Giants losing in Week 7 to Denver scoring 33 points in the fourth quarter deserves to be considered worse.
December 13th, 2025 at 9:06 am
Hodad – You never know. There have been a surprising hiring of other coaches that many of us thought would never be rehired.
December 13th, 2025 at 9:18 am
Bowles should be gone at the end of the season. No further discussion needed.
So who is his replacement?
If you go defensive – Chris Shula Rams DC
If you go offensive – A McVay or Shanahan disciple
December 13th, 2025 at 9:18 am
When is someone in the pen and mike club gonna have the guts to call for Todd Bowles job? Is there something they are saying that the fans are not??
December 13th, 2025 at 9:56 am
The Glazers have tired a playoff coach before. Look at just a HC change has done for NE. Kt can be done.
December 13th, 2025 at 9:59 am
Fire Bowles now and make the most recent Superbowl winning HC as interim. He can help hire the permanent HC.
December 13th, 2025 at 9:59 am
He must have watched the Saints game. It was worse.
December 13th, 2025 at 10:17 am
Marky mark
That’s how we got HERE
December 13th, 2025 at 11:43 am
Joe please lets have head coach candidate stories. I nominated Todd Monken and will keep it up, cannot read any thing more about Bowles, something good has to come from this epic loss. Bowles has to be fired, sooner the better. Glazers need to leave the comfort zone of cheap money quiet Todd and actually do something to salvage this team.
December 13th, 2025 at 12:00 pm
Interesting hypothesis Joe, the only problem I see is if the Bucs’ O puts up 40, the Todd Bowles D will figure out a way to surrender 45!
December 13th, 2025 at 12:39 pm
Ive seen this movie before. Yes, statistically the season is still in reach, but there is no chance Tampa wins it. The bottom has fallen out. The Bucs are cooked. Although major deficiencies on this team, the skid is mostly all mental. Not making those plays at the end of the game to close it out. Vs the Pats they had a chance to win with the int in the EZ. Could have gone on to score. Vs Buffalo, had a chance on 4th down to go for it and didnt. Critical mistake in the 4th down 1 score wirh 5 min left. Vs the Saints, busted plays and offense not getting to their landmarks and a critical dropped TD vs the Falcons, two fumbles not recovered that should have been and busted coverages on 4th and 14. Just brutal mental errors costing this team. They are that close to flipping this depsite the issues on D.
December 13th, 2025 at 2:28 pm
Bucs: Hold my beer…
December 13th, 2025 at 7:18 pm
In right about bowles..I watched the game over broke tape down in the defense..its time to give him his walking papers..after watch the 50 years prime anniversary for the bucs I 1000% want gruden back..but as the offense coordinator pay him head coach money..we help him get back into the nfl..have bill Belichick comeback organize this defense..than when bills done give gru the keys
December 14th, 2025 at 1:58 am
I was a teenager and at the game for the Monday night meltdown against the Colts. That was shocking. This game was shocking and brought back bad memories of that Monday night meltdown.
December 14th, 2025 at 9:31 am
Glazers wake up and fire Todd Bowles. He is a mediocre coach with a history of mediocrity. He was installed as heir apparent when Bruce Ariens suddenly and unexpectedly decided to retire. However, Bowles is not the kind of coach that can make the Bucs a repeat championship team. If the Bucs miss the playoffs this year, then it may be an opportunity for house cleaning. I don’t have much confidence in this offensive coach either who keeps having Baker lob balls for interceptions when a run might have been a better choice. How do you blow a 14 point lead? This has happened before where the Bucs have squandered leads in winnable games. Glazers, clean house after this season. You got lucky with TB, but I am not sure Baker can take us to the promised land and I really like Mayfield. The consolation prize for a crash-and-burn season ending might be a solid, first round pick in 2026. We might need to look to the QB of the Bucs future under new leadership. Go Bucs. Cheers and Merry Chirstmas.
December 14th, 2025 at 9:35 am
Addendum for Jason Licht.
There are 2 or 3 really good QBs coming in the 2026 draft. Trade up to get one of them for the Bucs future.
Go Bucs. Happy Holidays. Cheers.