Todd Bowles Collapse Is Nearing
December 12th, 2025
A week ago the Bucs were struggling but hadn’t lost to a bad football team all year.
Now they’ve lost two games in a row at home to sadsack division rivals. And the Bucs’ defensive mistakes have been repetitive, as if the unit isn’t capable of learning or adjusting.
That’s what Joe calls a collapse — the rotten cherry on top of Tampa Bay starting the season 5-1 and freefalling now to a 7-7 record.
Head coach/defensive coordinator Todd Bowles presides over this mess. Yeah, yeah, Bowles has to coach it better and the players have to play it better. But Joe is sick of that Bowles cliché.
Did the Bucs not have enough talent to beat the Saints and/or Falcons? Regardless of the Bucs’ mess of injuries, including starting two backup guards tonight, Joe is absoultey sure they had enough bodies to win. But the ylost.
That falls very hard on Bowles.
Bowles’ strength as a head coach has always been an ability to keep the Bucs together and resilient. The latter hasn’t been around this team since October.
If Bowles cannot right this sinking ship in 2025, Joe’s not sure why anyone would have confidence, hope or expectation that he could next year.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:26 am
resign
December 12th, 2025 at 12:27 am
Bowles walks the plank after that one. They’ll let him finish the season, but that was the last straw.
Who are the realistic candidates to replace him next season? Anyone from the McVay tree?
December 12th, 2025 at 12:27 am
Need to move on with new leadership if we miss the post season…..
December 12th, 2025 at 12:27 am
No way he can come back next year unless they finish 10-7. And that’s not happening
December 12th, 2025 at 12:27 am
Good bye, Mr. Bowles.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:28 am
Wow… I feel terrible they lost. But I am glad the implosion is coming.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:28 am
For some reason people wanted to give Bowles a pass when he lost to a rookie in.the wildcard at home. Competent fans saw this a long time ago. It was clear before the season there was no pass rush but the media said this was a superbowl roster. Lol…
Its time to clean house. New HC and QB to start
December 12th, 2025 at 12:28 am
bring chucky in and just ask him to steer the ship without major changes for the final 3 games
December 12th, 2025 at 12:29 am
Joe do you honestly think this team can beat the panthers? I think we can all admit this is done.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:29 am
Is Bowles a Super Bowl winning coach???? NO….fire him now
December 12th, 2025 at 12:30 am
We need to hire Matt Burke as soon as possible.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:30 am
He’s done and so is Jason
Everyone knows it’s.
Time for a change
December 12th, 2025 at 12:30 am
if i’m bowles i jump on the first plane to thailand…
party like a rock star…
then blow my brains out all over the bed and walls of my slum hotel room
(sounds like a blowzo plan to me)
December 12th, 2025 at 12:30 am
I would imagine Joe was at the post game PC. I watched from the RayJay concourse. Did that seem like a guy capable of motivating his team to win even one more game this season?
I get you will have to cover the team until last call but it’s over. And mercifully so. He’s never been the right guy IMHO.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:30 am
The Glazers should be unbelievably embarrassed. They gave this guy an extension before the season. Lord help us all if that encourages them to ride it out for another year.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:31 am
Yo Joe
Remember I was the only Bucs fan vouching for Devin White
I saw bro is literally gonna lead the NFL in tackles this year, like already over 130 tackles.
You guys said Devin White was the problem etc, he’s selfish etc
Yall said trust in Bowles. I thought it was insane Bucs got rid of a former #5 overall pick and Super Bowl champion
Stop building this team around church dudes “I am that man” nonsense
December 12th, 2025 at 12:32 am
Joe is still delusional with his misplaced hope.
This team is dunzo. They’ve been broken since the Detroit game.
The defense has completely quit on Bowles. The offense is a mess, the o-line sucks, Baker is broken.
You see how p!ssed Mike Evans was at the end of the game? And rightfully so. Works his tail off to come back for this embarrassing soft garbage?
Todd Bowles should be a dead man walking. HE IS DONE. THIS TEAM IS GARBAGE UNDER HIS LEADERSHIP.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:33 am
And the former came all the way unraveled 2nite
December 12th, 2025 at 12:33 am
Don’t forget Baker, two weeks in a row, ball in his hands and can win the game, and he fails both times like it’s the 4th quarter of a playoff game.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:33 am
The crowd was chanting “Fire Bowles” after the game on Prime Time.
4-14. 3-28.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:33 am
bowles does need to go, but please point out that the bucs have only 2 games left. at this point, we just need to sweep the panthers. the dolphins game should be treated as a bye week with little care for the win. win next week and the only game that matters is week 18.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:33 am
It’ll be the players that keep themselves 2gether if they somehow change
December 12th, 2025 at 12:33 am
No way no how. The Glazers are in the business to make a profit. Losing games is not good for business.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:33 am
Haven’t heard this scrub accept any responsibility for pathetic play calling! Man up
December 12th, 2025 at 12:34 am
I didn’t even pick them in this game I ended up picking Atlanta.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:34 am
Jarrett Says:
December 12th, 2025 at 12:31 am
Yo Joe
Remember I was the only Bucs fan vouching for Devin White
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Yeah, you remember wrong. There’s literally no one that was higher on White, including saying trade for him THIS year since he’d cost almost nothing and fill a huge need with his speed.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:34 am
Jarrett Says:
“Stop building this team around church dudes “I am that man” nonsense”
Agreed, Warren Sapp wasn’t that man when he was first drafted either. If it wasn’t for him not wanting to be called the YUCKS we might not have won the super bowl.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:35 am
It’s too late, Coen’s success will be haunting us for years.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:35 am
Sure missing Coen at this point
December 12th, 2025 at 12:36 am
3-28 -> 4-14 -> 1-10 -> Game Over
December 12th, 2025 at 12:36 am
Cousins last three games vs the Bucs 11TDs -1 Int
His 14 games against other teams in the span 9TDs-14 Ints
December 12th, 2025 at 12:36 am
on amazon prime…during the release of the bucs 10 part series…!
arguably one of the 3 worst days in bucs history
December 12th, 2025 at 12:36 am
I’m sure glazers are making calls probably started after the loss to the saints
December 12th, 2025 at 12:36 am
Feel bad for Evans. He was pissed and played well. Looking forward to hopefully a new HC and better coordinators in all 3 phases. I feel like we do have some talent. Imo Licht should stay. Bowles was forced on him and he’s for decent in drafts
December 12th, 2025 at 12:37 am
And yeah I have no idea how anyone could justify him keeping his job after this slide. Not sure we win any more games this year
December 12th, 2025 at 12:37 am
The owners will keep Bowzo. Bet the ranch. He will win at least 1 more game. He will either eek in the division or a close second to the Panters…My bet is that we get to enjoy 1 more year of Bowzo no matter what. Owners like .500 seasons.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:38 am
I still hope we win out and win the division……that’s just in my DNA….the fate of Todd Bowles is not in my hands. Neither is winning…..only hope is what I can control….and I still have that.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:38 am
BucYou – there LaFluers brother in LA and Kubiak in Seattle. The former doesn’t call plays, obviously.
There’s also Declan in Chicago. He also doesn’t call plays but Peyton and Johnson swear by him. He’s also a Ditka nephew.
I’d most certainly prefer a young offensive mind. Declan intrigues me because of the Peyton connection.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:39 am
Glazers have got to be fuming to be beat like that at this moment with the docu series.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:39 am
Probably the worst .500 team ever.
Terrible
December 12th, 2025 at 12:40 am
Bailing on the blitz on that 3rd down killed us. Alarm bells went off as soon as I saw the db back pedal
December 12th, 2025 at 12:40 am
There’s no way we beat the Panthers! They are way better coached than us!! Just imagine how good we would be with a coach like Canales or Coen. If only wr ever had a chance at a coach like them!!!! Meanwhile Bill is in Chapel Hill waiting for a call lol.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:41 am
The team HAS to win on offense. You can’t throw a terrible 4th quarter INT with the lead. We also knew that when there’s 3 mins left, the ball is given back to Baker and we all know if they punt, the Bucs lose the game. Literally everyone knew that, and Baker couldn’t get it done. Second week in a row.
The defense is terrible, that is a given. The team was built to win on offense. We knew that going into the game. And Baker made HUGE game losing mistakes in the 4th quarter.
But hey, at least he’ll always be the week 6 MVP. Someone should have shirts made up of that, can be the new bag on the head.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:42 am
Adam from ny is way outta line with that last comment smh
December 12th, 2025 at 12:42 am
This is a team with a great deal of talent that is being wasted by a piss poor coaching staff
Give this same group to McVay or LaFluer or McDermott and we win 12 games….
December 12th, 2025 at 12:43 am
Why is anyone surprised we are sitting at .500 with only a few games left….What has Grover been saying all year??? Bowzo is a .500 coach for any team or plaers. It is the Bowles Way! The Bowlezone….
December 12th, 2025 at 12:43 am
That’s a pretty measured tone after what we’ve just watched Joe… Is bowles rubbing off on you?
December 12th, 2025 at 12:44 am
No zyon or Tykee… it showed the last possession. And yes, baker had some good throws, but two critical misses late hurt. If that last pass to emeka is on target, the game is over. To his credit, he owned it.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:46 am
Tampabaybucfan Says:
December 12th, 2025 at 12:38 am
I still hope we win out and win the division……that’s just in my DNA…
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It’s not out of the question, if the Bucs win out, they still win the division, regardless of what else Carolina does. However it also wouldn’t shock me if Carolina gets beat by the Saints as well, it’s not like they’re a good team– yet, they’re young, and inconsistent, so I can totally see beating the Rams then losing to the Saints.
But back to the Bucs … if you want to get past the rage, the Bucs offense, outside of Baker choking in the 4th quarter, finally looked half-way decent, and Atlanta can be a good defense at times. If the timing with Baker and Evans and McMillan gets better – the offense can score points. If Baker doesn’t make the huge 4th quarter INT today, the Bucs win, and traditionally Baker doesn’t screw up like that — unless it’s the playoff game vs the Lions.
Also, again if you’re trying to do the bright side… Also, the Bucs were missing TWO defensive backs tonight, in Zyon and Smith. When we played the Seattle defense, which has mostly been great this year, when they, before the Bucs game, lost two starting DBs before that game, we saw what the Bucs did to them. So if we get both guys back, that’s a big deal, along with getting Dennis back.
So, again, there is hope. The Bucs STILL control their own destiny, even with this L, and the offense looks ALMOST there, finally. So if you want hope, there is some legit, tiny, amount of hope.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:47 am
Every single Bucs fan knew how this game was going to end. It was inevitable. Don’t waste anymore time being angry. This team doesn’t deserve our passion. They deserve our apathy. APATHY! Just like what we saw/felt from the chewed up bag of marshmallows pretending to play football tonight.
How can 13 appear to be the only player giving a hoot?!?! 31, you took the $ and ran. 50, thanks for the double penalties. 27, see 31. 90, your biggest impact was ending Jensen’s career. 35, slip much? 6, let me introduce you to the concept known as accuracy b/c you have none. 62, you might’ve been the only dude wearing roller skates tonight. 14 and 11, just flab you both can walk away. 88, this was your most beneficial performance of the season. 21, you still here?
8, blameless and I’m sure your giving everyone the Nixon line right about now (you still stink). 5, nice cameo. Grizz, throwing it back to Jeff Tedford. Todd, is that you or Mike Smith? I can’t tell anymore. Jason, enjoy the wings and beer.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:48 am
Generations will be remembering The Great Bucs Post-Bye Collapse of 2025…
December 12th, 2025 at 12:51 am
Thoroughly inept season ticket holders who jumped on with Brady will bail out after this debacle. The Glasers must be totally embarrassed by this. Time for a new coach ad a new GM.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:52 am
Kitties on the rise, Bucs falling off a cliff.
Do the math.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:55 am
With everything else going down, did anyone else notice that “The Godson” Morrison was a “healthy scratch” AGAIN!? Hell, he’s been practicing for at least the last TWO-WEEKS. Pathetic. Todd’s protecting him. T-KRASS saying the personnel on this team is “NOT GOOD ENOUGH.” He is correct. We have very little ‘HIGH-END’ TALENT, especially on Defense. That is still young anyway. ZERO FREAKS. NO DAWGS. Bowles is CLUELESS. And he been since Day #1 and it has been SO OBVIOUS for anyone to see. He’s just NOT a good coach. PERIOD. I still cannot get over the large number of people on here, who WANTED HIM (61-years old, etc. ETC.) over COHEN, the 39-year old genius ‘Offensive’ PLAY-CALLER, & etc. etc. MIND-BLOWING.
December 12th, 2025 at 12:55 am
COOKED – TOTALLY COOKED
December 12th, 2025 at 12:55 am
I’m calling it now. Todd announces he retires at end of year. That’s how you will see it in the breaking news section scrolling across the bottom of TV. +100 ✓
December 12th, 2025 at 12:58 am
Oh, and I meant to add… It is ALL ON BOTH, Lickt AND Bowles. PERIOD. And I have NEVER SEEN BEFORE, just how many people on here, have SLUPED every last drop of Lickt.
December 12th, 2025 at 1:12 am
However Todd leaves is fine with me. Don’t need him to be canned, retirement is just fine.
December 12th, 2025 at 1:13 am
BucYou says:
“Who are the realistic candidates to replace him next season? Anyone from the McVay tree?”
Rams DC Chris Shula is a rising hotshot young coach. Future star HC. Comes from a football pedigree family.
You can pair him with an offensive Rams tree coach like passing game coordinator Nate Scheelhaase. We interviewed Nate Scheelhaase for OC in the off-season but went with the disaster that has been Grizzard.
December 12th, 2025 at 1:48 am
Joe is making it sound like the collapse has not already happened. That ship has sailed. It is all over but the crying.
December 12th, 2025 at 2:01 am
@CobraBoy
The perfect description of Bowles would be like that game The Mountain Climber on The Price Is Right. He’s just climbing up the mountain & then all of a sudden he falls off.
December 12th, 2025 at 2:02 am
@CobraBoy
The perfect description of Bowles would be like that game The Mountain Climber on The Price Is Right. He’s just climbing up the mountain & then all of a sudden he falls off.
December 12th, 2025 at 2:03 am
@CobraBoy
The perfect description of Bowles would be like that game The Mountain Climber on The Price Is Right. He’s just climbing up the mountain & then all of a sudden he falls off.
December 12th, 2025 at 3:43 am
Please go try and get DC Matt Patrica from Ohio State .