NFL Radio: Bucs Fans Should Pray For Baker Mayfield’s Safety

May 15th, 2025

Needs competition, say radio duo.

So long as nothing catastrophic happens, the Bucs should be playoff bound in January say the two men who co-host the best damn football show on national radio.

And — as JoeBucsFan.com columnist Ira Kaufman called the duo live on their show once — these “two learned men” are none other than Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller of “Movin’ the Chains,” heard exclusively on SiriusXM NFL Radio.

Yesterday, the two were discussing the quarterback rooms of the NFC South when they came to the Bucs. Both really like Baker Mayfield, but had very, very little if anything good to say about the Bucs’ backup quarterbacks.

The Bucs are playing with matches, they believe, banking on Kyle Trask as the No. 2.

Kirwan and Miller host their show at a Bucs training camp practice each summer. Kirwan, a former linebackers coach and pro player personnel director of the Jets, and Miller, a former NFL backup and starting quarterback who once had a cup of coffee with Chucky and the Bucs, scrutinize and take notes at the practices they attend.

Neither has any faith in Trask.

“I do like Trask,” Miller said after grousing about Trask. “I don’t like his arm. I don’t think he can drive the football.”

Kirwan was much more direct. In grading Trask, he said Trask is a “zero” because he’s barely played. But he felt bad for him and gave him a “one” grade because he at least has stayed on the Bucs roster and has seen the field a handful of times.

“The guy has never thrown a touchdown, never thrown an interception, never been sacked, never started a game, and in three years, has thrown 11 passes,” Kirwan said. “In the last two years, he’s thrown two passes.”

Miller reiterated he didn’t like Trask’s arm and believes he cannot be counted on for a big play. Plus, Miller said Trask is not mobile. Why the Bucs didn’t bring in Carson Wentz to at least challenge Trask puzzled Miller.

“Well, they drafted Trash pretty high, obviously he didn’t go first round, but he was a higher draft pick by them, so I think they feel good about him and what they scouted,” Miller said. “So to me, if, if [Jason] Licht were to bring somebody in to replace him, I think that’s an indictment on Licht of how highly they drafted [Trask].”

Trask was a second-round pick in 2021.

“This is the team that should win the division again,” Kirwan said. “They’re good enough to win it again with Baker. Are you going to let it all fall apart? This is a house of cards if he gets hurt.”

Kirwan then rattled off who he believes are capable backups the Bucs could have had, such as Andy Dalton, Jacoby Brissett, Marcus Mariota, and yes, Kirwan said the Bucs could have brought back America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston. All, per Kirwan, are better options than Trask. (For the record, Dalton was not on the free agent market this year.)

Miller then noted how Mayfield was sacked 40 times last year. He said that’s way too much for the quality of the Bucs’ offensive line. That, Miller said, should set off alarm bells in Licht’s office to upgrade the backup quarterbacks.

There are third-string quarterbacks better than Trask, Kirwan added, floating the name of Dorian Thompson-Robinson of the Steelers. He has starting experience and if drama queen Aaron Rodgers does sign with Pittsburgh, DTR would be on the chopping block.

Kirwan said the Bucs would have been better off with Gardner Minshew, Case Keenum, Desmond Ridder and Teddy Bridgewater backing up Mayfield.

“I don’t like those guys,” Kirwan said, but added he likes them as backups better than he likes Trask. For Kirwan, his biggest hang-up about Trask is inexperience.

And, Kirwan noted, if he were Todd Bowles, he’d put Mayfield in bubble wrap until September.

“I would not play Baker one single down in the summer,” Kirwan said. “I can’t afford to have anything happen to him. He knows what he’s doing, so I’m ready for the opener.”

“This Joe” isn’t big on paying backups because 9 times out of 10, that team is screwed if a starter goes down regardless who the quarterback is. Nick Foles with the Eagles, rescuing the team after a Wentz injury and leading the Eagles to a Super Bowl title, is an accident, plain and simple.

Joe would much rather see the Bucs spend money on acquiring Trey Hendrickson than loose change on a guy you pray never steps on the field.

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58 Responses to “NFL Radio: Bucs Fans Should Pray For Baker Mayfield’s Safety”

  1. Defense Rules Says:

    Pat Kirwin … “They’re good enough to win it (NFC South) again with Baker. Are you going to let it all fall apart? This is a house of cards if he gets hurt.”

    Last 2 years the Bucs have shown that they can lose a lot of key guys and yet still win ENOUGH games to win the NFC South. Baker has stayed healthy enough to play all 34 regular season games plus our 3 playoff games. Baker, Cody Mauch & Zion McCollum look to be the only 3 players who have played in all 37 of those games. And what’s cool is that the each of them has a LOT of snaps (regular season) during that period: Baker (2223 off snaps), Cody (2236 of snaps), Zion (1841 def snaps). All 3 have taken a LOT of hits, but stayed healthy.

    Of course, in the NFL freak accidents happen and any player can get hurt. Bucs seem to have had as many injuries as any team in the league these past 2 years. I personally see 3 players who are so critical to what we do that losing any 1 of them would surely impact us: Mayfield, Vea & LVD. In all 3 cases, Bucs lack quality, experienced depth.

    Good news is though that the Bucs have a solid team in all position groups and can compensate … to a degree … for losing one of those critical players for a period of time. IMO the most difficult to compensate for would be Vea (we have no comparable backup & the rest of our DLine would have trouble compensating IMO).

    Trask wouldn’t set the world on fire as the Bucs QB, but the talent surrounding him is plenty good to hold their own while Baker’s out, and allow us to win our share of games. Losing LVD’s leadership on the field would sting a lot, but SVD could substitute in while LVD’s out (and yes, I’m still convinced that Anthony Walker will start the season at MLB).

  2. Farmer Says:

    I think people a bit too harsh on Trask, had Bledsoe not gone down with an injury would Tom Brady have been just a foot note in the annals of Football history as a guy who never started a game? Obviously I don’t think Trask will become Brady but people are being far too quick to dismiss Trask as trash.

    The only knock anyone can give on Trask is that Baker beat him out for the starting job, Baker is a damn fine QB and arguably top 5 in the league right now so how exactly is it a knock on Trask that he wasn’t able to beat Baker out in training camp?

    If Baker goes down I’m not going to be confident of our chances to succeed but that’s only because I think our defence is once again going to crap the bed and necessitate a top 5 QB performance which Trask is unlikely to pull off.

  3. Kenton Smith Says:

    Trask has competition and so far he’s been holding his own. He knows this offense and he fits in. This team will step up and I have no doubt Trask will do just fine when called upon. The other 10 guys on the offense will see to that. We’re not the New York Giants.

  4. Joe in Michigan Says:

    Are we sure that Trask beats out Pratt for 2nd string?

  5. SlyPirate Says:

    Can’t you say the same thing about most teams?

  6. heyjude Says:

    Whoa, bubble-wrap Baker!

    Agree SlyPirate – Thinking the same exact thing. Couldn’t we say there are many other teams that may need to bubble-wrap their QBs too… Heck, bubble-wrap all main players. Just kidding of course.

    Baker showed us a lot of moxie last season and keeps getting better when moving through players and avoiding a bad collision. Yes, hoping he stays healthy too.

  7. John Says:

    Goodness. Trask had similar numbers in college as Baker had, and led the NCAA in TDs his senior year. He’s not some scrub. Is it his fault he was backing up the GOAT his first couple of years? And in watching updates of the QB competition with Baker, it seemed like they were very similar statistically. I think with the weapons we have, after shaking the dust off, he would be very capable of keeping us in contention until Baker were to return. He knows the system.

  8. RaShad Says:

    When I heard that segment, it made me think. Miller said Trask doesn’t have the arm to push the ball down field. Offense we ran last year really didn’t do that. But they did make a good point about bringing vets in to challenge Trask. Im interested to see Trask and Pratt compete

  9. Doolnutts Says:

    In my opinion this is a silly argument. The same argument could have been made if Peyton Manning or Brady went down. The franchises of those teams were just blessed with good health. If baker goes down our playoff odds plummet but again as others said baker is top 5-10 right now so if he goes down I’d think it’s over for us even if we had those back ups I think we’d be toast either way. Baker is elite right now.

  10. Alanbucsfan Says:

    Trask and Mayfield have in common they both won the Earl Campbell Award, also won by the likes of Kyler Murray and Ashton Jeanty and are both originally from Texas. They both were highly productive their last year in college.
    Trask may not have Mayfield’s arm or mobility, but he’s 6’5 and has 3 years NFL coaching experience.
    Would Trask have Mayfield’s moxie?

  11. Scotty Mack Says:

    I think the difference between the two is that Baker has a rifle and sometimes throws it so hard, I wonder how people catch it. Trask doesn’t have that rifle, according to them, and that split second difference could be the difference between who catches the ball in a tight window – the receiver or the defender.

  12. Beeej Says:

    What we HAVE is the preseason footage from the last 2 seasons, which I believe is pretty good

  13. RBUC Says:

    These Yahoozzz don’t know squat and simply talking about something they read about Kyle!!! I think Wentz is COOKED and at this stage Trask is a MUCH better option to backup Mayfield than every name they mentioned!!! The coaches have monitored Trask these past few years and I think they get more comfortable with him more as time goes by. That TD pass Trask threw Palmer against the Jets settled any doubt I had about his arm strength!!! Trask also doesn’t hold the ball “FOREVER “ like I see a lot of QBs do, he goes through his progressions and makes a decision I LIKE THAT!! TRASK vs PRATT is what I’m most interested to watch in the preseason

  14. Bucsfan Says:

    Jeff Hostetler also led the Giants to a SB win after Simms went down, so there is ample evidence that says being one of the Top 64 QB’s in the world means you are pretty dang good.
    Not to mention that running the ball well and playing great defense do not require much out of your QB and Bucs should be good at both the aforementioned.
    Baker is double tough and if he had served in the military during war time he likely would have earned a CMH during battle for bravery. Sometimes it is frightening watching him scramble and run , but Baker would not be Baker if he were not doing those very things. No worries Bucs will be fine.

  15. Manny Says:

    Like many other commenters here have said, you can say the same thing about most accomplished or talented teams in the league with high expectations, if their QB were to go down.

    But the real diamond in the rough in this story not getting enough reflection is what Miller astutely said when referring to the drafting value of Trask, or at all really. He said “So to me, if, if the GM were to bring somebody in to replace him–which strong vet competition by start of season would be–, I think that’s an indictment on him of how highly they drafted Trask”.

    Exactly. And that’s exactly what’s occurring. At such a highly valuable 2nd round pick used on him, and he not developing, the decision is being made from on high to get as many years removed from that draft year without shining too much of a light on that misjudgment before eventually moving on. Especially on a future QB.Many GM’s do it, on all highly drafted players. Want the attention, spotlight to die down.

  16. Capt Ahab Says:

    I’ll take Trask over a reject QB that’s bounced around the league.

  17. Larrd Says:

    Those guys sound pretty stupid.

  18. adam from ny Says:

    kyle is marinating mister kirwan…

    and maybe snacking on the occasional coconut donut

  19. garro Says:

    I do not remember ever diagreeing with Kirwan and Miller… This time they are dead wrong. Trask is what he is. I agree in part. Becasue Baker likes to pull it down and holds the ball way too long at times there is indeed a higher chance he gets hurt.
    My disagreement comes with who they think is better. Those dudes have stunk it up in the past. Some more than once. Brissett is the only one who might be able to hold a clipboard for Trask. Kirwan and Miller are rarely this off base.

    Go Bucs!

  20. rrsrq Says:

    Joe, I would argue, an injury to Bledsoe led to the discovery of Tom Brady, and an injury to Dilfer and Shaun King led us to the NFC championship. So there have been backups who have led the team, even though it was Foles who finished the job. Not saying I have that confidence in Pratt or Trask. They should have traded for Milton with the Pats, but Licht made the 2nd round investment in Trask

  21. Jeff Says:

    Baker needs to stop running with the ball if the net result is contact. Save these plays for the playoffs.

  22. Coburn Says:

    I think it you read between the lines and see the moves they’ve made, like resigning Trask, and no ot pursuing others, I think they must really like how Trask has come along. It’s silly to throw out names and claim they’re a much better option. You’re not viewing Trask in practice every day. No reason to think he doesn’t have some capability

  23. BakerFan Says:

    Trask would be fine filling in, just won’t be able to do as much as with Baker. These guys get paid to mouth off and cause turmoil where there is none. Trask could come in an hand the ball off and do short quick hitters and this team will still be a .500 club during that time.

  24. Pewter Pirate Says:

    Yep they need Mayfield to stay healthy. I personally like Trask, but I have no idea how he will perform in real games. He may be great or he may be a bust. I know Mayfield if healthy can guide this team to a Super Bowl.

  25. dumboldguy Says:

    If Baker goes out for the season we are cooked. If he has to miss part of one game or 2 games I’d rather have Pratt over Trask. He’s got more of the dawg in him and is athletic and willing to put his body on the line. That’s what you will need to steal a game with an untested backup QB.

    If Baker is out for an entire season Trask might win a few more games over the long haul than Pratt, or maybe not, but it doesn’t matter b/c we will be cooked either way most likely.

  26. Vanessa Anne Says:

    Kirwan and Miller have some good points, Joe.

    So do you.

    Kyle is not nearly as mobile as Baker is. It’s possible he can rifle the ball down the field as well as Baker, but I wouldn’t know because I haven’t seen enough practice or pre-season tape on him.

    The solution is to get Kyle onto the field during the regular season and get him the experience, without jeopardizing our W-L record.

    I’ve felt for years that we should be putting him in late during games that we have a clear lead. Enough of a lead that if he throws in INT or fumbles and the other team scores, we’re still far enough ahead to win.

    If he starts making a lot of mistakes, take him out and put Baker back in. If he recovers and moves on from a pick six or a fumble that leads to an opposing TD, leave him in.

    At least that way, we’d know what we really have with him.

  27. Scott Says:

    They must see something comforting in Trask to trust him with the backup spot. He made some nice touch throws in the preseason.

  28. JA Says:

    “Trask has only thrown 11 NFL passes”
    And why is that?
    A knowledgeable head coach pulls his starters in blowout wins or losses to get his backups experience (sorry, Chris Godwin).
    But Bowles?
    No way!
    And why is that?
    (Last question was rhetorical)

  29. Jeffrey Becker Says:

    he didn’t really call him “Trash” that one time, right?

  30. ATLBucs Says:

    The fact that he said bring back, Jameis tells me all I need to know about his quarterback analysis

  31. Mike C Says:

    Breaking news, Starting QB goes down and you most likely don’t win a Super bowl 🙄

  32. FilthyAnimal Says:

    Joe would much rather see the Bucs spend money on acquiring Trey Hendrickson

    smfh

    not happening

    makes no sense

  33. El HEFE Says:

    When trask finally gets his chance he is going to be nice we might not ever see it because even when bakers hurt with a broken leg he will find a way to make the coaches put him in with bones sticking out tough guy but should try to sit out if hurt playing threw injury is fun till it’s not

  34. stpetebucsfan Says:

    @Vanessa

    Agree that Trask should go in whenever the game is decided not the final gun.

    Meanwhile I’m not sure about the value of this take…not talking about Trask just saying as Joe points out the league is QB driven. Some teams are still desperate to find their #1 much less their #2.

    I think all bets are off for any team if their #1 QB goes down. At minimum it becomes a roll of the dice and perhaps as Farmer pointed out you get REALLY lucky and discover a Brady when the starter goes down. But what are the odds?

  35. DRob Says:

    Did hey actually call him trash? Or s that a typo? If real- maybe a (sic) would be helpful

  36. RBUC Says:

    I’m a Bucs fan, I pull for Baker Mayfield, and I want to see him do great things and succeed BUT facts are facts that are not to be ignored!!
    1) Baker throughout his whole career has had a HIGH number of interceptions
    and last season led the league in interceptions-FACT
    2) Last season in Nola where Sean Tucker went OFF and the Bucs scored 51 the main 2 reasons the Saints were even in that game at any point was because Baker threw 3 unnecessary picks & the Bucs secondary was no better than the Saints sorry defense-FACT
    3) At Carolina, season on the line, the only reason Bucs escaped OT with a win Nelly stripped the ball from the RB- that game was close because of Baker INTs-FACT
    4) Ira Kaufman reported from high up in Bucs organization BEFORE Baker got to Tampa it had ALREADY been decided if Baker accepted the one year $5 million prove it deal QB1 spot was his and there NEVER was a QB competition-FACT
    5) In my OPINION the main difference between Baker & Trask is experience & live reps!!! Bucs made a decision to go with the experienced guy that has MOXIE instead of rolling the dice on a quiet guy that hasn’t proven anything in this league YET in Kyle Trask and this preseason we will see a noticeable gap between Trask & Pratt cause at this stage Kyle is a superior QB to Pratt and ALOT closer to Mayfield’s talent than people want to give him credit for

  37. Capt.Tim Says:

    I said it the day they drafted him, on a post right here.
    Trask doesn’t have an NFL Arm.
    Bowles won’t bring him in, because even in a blowout- Trask can risk the game with his floaters across the field.
    His passes are the kind that get ran back for a TD.
    Trask is only on the team because Cutting him would reflect badly on Jason Licht. We wasted a 2nd round pick on this guy.

    This is a strong offense. Nobody out there can replace Mayfield, but there are guys out there who might win a couple of games if Mayfield is out.
    But we won’t win any games with Kyle Trask.
    We would be depending on Michael Pratt. Pratt has an NFL arm- but we have no idea what we have in him. He looked good at Tulane.
    We know Trask isn’t the answer.

  38. WeakSecondary Says:

    Trask is just a clipboard holder. Great job if you can get it.

    And for those not capable of understanding basic math, Bowles contract is a five year deal that started in 2022 and runs out after the 2026 season.

    2022 – 1st year
    2023 – 2nd year
    2024 – 3rd year
    2025 – 4th year
    2026 – 5th year

    1+1+1+1+1 = 5

  39. White Tiger Says:

    I absolutely agree that if we are poised for a post-season run, then we should have an experienced QB on the roster that still has game-manager ability/short term starter grade. However, cuts prior to the season are still an option for some quality back-up’s. I like Michael Pratt, but he doesn’t have experience. I don’t get why Trask is in this WB room, he doesn’t have enough experience, and he doesn’t seem to be a good fit for the offense.

  40. geno711 Says:

    I absolutely agree. Get Trey Hendrickson. Those same guys were pointing out how much and how well Hendrickson had performed in big games.

  41. BucsFanSince1996 Says:

    Given the strength of our o-line, our running game, and the other offensive weapons we’ve got, I’m pretty much unconcerned if Trask had to come in and play some games.

    If it happened during the playoffs, I’d be concerned about his lack of experience, but again, as others have pointed out, this is true for many of the NFL teams.

    Trask clearly was better last preseason than he was the previous year, and given that he’s in a contract year, I’m sure he wants to show during this coming preseason that he’s capable of being an NFL starter or at least a high-quality backup.

  42. FilthyAnimal Says:

    Barring injury, Trask will never get to play enough to earn a look elsewhere.

  43. BucsfaninOregon Says:

    I totally agree with the concept of a “washed up” QB to be a backup for Backer. Trask has zero experience in regular season because of the simple fact that he is a risk. So Backer can hardly walk due to a tough tackle and he still plays and Trask sits. Writing is on the wall, Trask lovers. We wasted another high pick that can’t get on the field. Those like Briskett have the experience to pull us across the finish line if Backer gets hurt in 3rd quarter. Look at Sam Darnold – -totally a bust originally but has now significant value. I see Trask as another version of JTS. Only JTS played because no one else was better.

  44. Jmarkbuc Says:

    Physical Attributes:
    Scouts are critical of physique, describing him as “bony” and “skinny” with a poor build. They also questioned his arm strength, with some saying he lacked a “really strong arm”.

    Play Style and Playmaking:
    Some scouts questioned his ability to make risky plays and viewed him as more of a “game manager” than a playmaker. His lack of mobility and tendency to be a pocket passer also drew criticism

    Pre draft scouting report for you know who….

  45. Jmarkbuc Says:

    In case it didn’t jump out at you.. that was the scouting report for one Thomas Edward Patrick Brady.

  46. Sapp 2 Fundamentally Sound Says:

    Kyle Trask NFL draft profile

    “Trask clearly has the arm strength, touch and placement to wear out one-on-one coverage if he has good protection”

    IMO
    If/when Baker has to rest on the sideline because of injury, Trask will come in and play well. His arm strength is very Good. Anyone who says differently is not just wrong they are blind and being bias. Watch the film no one can dispute the tape.
    (The only real tape available is from college) One can question his accuracy yes but he has been coached up for several years in the NFL now so I bet his mechanics are better thus his accuracy is better.

    When Baker is hot he can thread the needle especially in the short to medium pass game. Thats one of the reasons he is elite and we are lucky to have Mayfield. Trask actually throws a better deep ball and when presented with one-on-ones deep down the field he will connect more often. Thats why Arians wanted him and that’s why he was drafted by the Bucs after we won the SB.
    He also is huge physically and will absolutely be a difference maker with QB sneaks on short yardage situations.

    If Kyle had to replace Baker for say a 4 game stretch in the regular season we would be more than OK.
    I think Trask would with good O line protection & good play calling do what he has done consistently ever time he has had that chance. Which is absolutely light up a defense averaging 3 TDs per game with 1 turnover per game. Don’t forget the other teams don’t have film on him either. So until they figure out his tendencies he will be successful. He can sling the football on time & in rhythm with the best of them.

    Way more worried about the Defense overall than 3-5 games of spot duty from our #2 QB.

    Go Bucs!

  47. ocala Says:

    I like Kyle Trask, but he like most backup QB’s are not going to win a game. I do think the Bucs have a good enough running game that if Trask had to play a few games they can compete. If the Bucs had Jamies as the backup (doubt it would ever happen) he does have the ability to win a game or two, but also to lose a game you shouldn’t.
    Trask is the better choice if you believe the Bucs defense will be significantly improved. If you think the Bucs defense will be ranked in the 20’s again then it would be better to have Jamies as the backup.

  48. FilthyAnimal Says:

    We have no real idea what Trask is, and neither does anyone else except the Bucs staff. Safe to say, if he had wowed anyone, we would have heard about it. His arm is not special. He can’t run. He’s not dynamic in anything he does. Average backup at best. Hope he never has to play. I think Pratt may have more upside as a backup.

  49. RBUC Says:

    Whoever brings up Jameis Winston as a option IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM needs to stop drinking alcohol while watching football cause it has clouded your judgement as to what you are watching to the point U CANT be taken seriously

  50. Buc1987 Says:

    Trask is still getting paid good money to just sit.

  51. RBUC Says:

    OH!!! If U not drinker U smoke WAYYYY too much 😂😂😂!!!!

  52. Jmarkbuc Says:

    ‘87

    Ryan Griffin had the BEST JOB EVER

  53. Paratrooper Buc Says:

    We all know the biggest injury risk for mayfield is if he scrambles then runs the ball but gets hurt. Yes it fires up the team and fans but he can’t take such chances. Better to throw the ball away or take a sack then get pummeled.

  54. JustVisiting Says:

    I’m a solid Baker fan, but this assessment of Trask sounds off to me. Like researchers say: absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence. Yeah, he hasn’t thrown balls, scored touchdowns, etc., +where these guys can see him+. Licht and Co. are watching him play all the time in practice, and if he was no good, he’d already be gone. I’ve never bought the whole “they’d look bad because they drafted him” argument; like everyone else in pro sports, GMs look good by winning, period. If you dump a top draft pick and win, you’re a hero. If you keep them and you lose, you’re looking for work.

  55. JD Still Says:

    I do not know those two gentlemen who get paid for their pontifications, but they have obviously never followed Kyle Trask’s career and how many pontificators he has made fools of! When in High school Kyle was a backup Quarterback to a flashy, couldn’t miss Young man whom I will not name to save him unnecessary embarrassment, this young man was highly recruited and many scouts came to see him, including scouts for the University of Florida, but while they came to watch the flashy young man , they came away offering Kyle a scholarship, the flashy , can’t miss Young man bounced around to several schools before flaming out. At Florida Kyle started as a backup to another couldn’t miss Young Man, who was injured, forcing Kyle into the starting role, which he never relinquished and ended his college career as a Heisman finalist , having never had the chance to start in high school and only getting the opportunity in college because of an injury to the starter, but when he did , he progressed rapidly , setting numerous passing records at Florida and becoming one of the top passers in the nation! He almost didn’t get that opportunity because he wasn’t flashy enough for those judging him, ( flash seems to be more important to most pontificators than actual results) but he was as cool as a cucumber under pressure , and getting better every start , not bad for a young man who never got to play in High School , and went into his first college game , that with a major university , trailing , with a packed stadium and on national television, and all he did was lead them from behind in that game winning it , and leading his team to a national ranking, and I see no reason why he will not do the same at the pro level ,if given the chance by someone who isn’t blinded by flash, pontificate on that!

  56. FilthyAnimal Says:

    …and I see no reason why he will not do the same at the pro level ,if given the chance by someone who isn’t blinded by flash, pontificate on that!

    I didn’t know Kyle’s mom was a poster on on JBF.

  57. JD Still Says:

    No Animal, I am just a sports fan and a casual observer of the human condition, now, You must of been a big Wally Pipp fan, no? ( I’ll save you the trouble of looking it up, Wally Pipp was a big time , flashy ball player for the New York Yankees back in the twenties, led the league in home runs a couple of times and was the starting first baseman for the Yanks , well one day before a game , he had a headache and wanted to take the day off, He was replaced by a quiet Young Kid named Gehrig , Lou Gherig, the rest is history , Gherig played for the next 2,130 games and Pipp never got his job back. Imagine how much the Yankee story would have changed if Gehrig had never gotten that chance!

  58. Rod Munch Says:

    “I do like Trask,” Miller said after grousing about Trask. “I don’t like his arm. I don’t think he can drive the football.”

    ———–

    Probably going more off his college tape, which is expected since Trask hasn’t played much – it’s the same gripe I had when the Bucs picked him. However, the Bucs forced him to relearn how to throw the ball, and to use his height and long arms to his advantage, and he’s learned to put some zip on the ball. I wouldn’t say he’s a strong thrower now, but is certainly in the average department when it comes to velocity.

    In the preseason the last two years, Trask has looked great, in particular considering the trash players they often had on the field around him. The downside of Trask is that in last years offense, which is hopefully this years offense, he’s a lot less of a natural fit than he was in the Arians offense, where he could just stand in the pocket – in this current offense he needs to be able to move more, which isn’t his strong suit. But I think if Trask was forced to play, and was the starter going into a game so he got some reps, I think he’d actually do OK.

 

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