Mike Tanier: Hard To Take Bucs Seriously When Coach Offers To “Surrender”
November 18th, 2025
Harsh words.
A lot of oxygen was burned, words typed and voices grown hoarse this past offseason about how the Bucs don’t get respect from analysts and media outside of Tampa.
But after watching the debacle Sunday against the Bills, it’s clear to Joe that if you combine the nonsense seen on the field and from the sidelines, that’s why folks don’t revere the Bucs as an NFL powerhouse.
Almost every time the Bucs are on national television, whether it is a primetime game or against a real opponent when a network pipes the game into the majority of households in the country from coast to coast, like this past Sunday, the Bucs find ways to lose.
Good teams, Super Bowl contenders, don’t trip over themselves on a regular basis on a big stage.
Joe’s good friend, NFL humorist/columnist Mike Tanier, was appalled by how Todd Bowles decided to punt on fourth-and-two from the Bucs-39 halfway through the fourth quarter while trailing by five, willingly wanting to see his defense collapse against Josh Allen.
Back-to-back losses to the AFC’s Patriots and Bills won’t have much tiebreaker impact for the Bucs. Chris Godwin and Bucky Irving should soon return from their injuries. But the Bucs wasted two early turnovers by their defense and a 140-total-yard, three-touchdown effort by running back Sean Tucker on Sunday, against an opponent that appeared determined to help them stay in the game. Factor in Bowles’ surrender, and it’s hard to take the Bucs seriously as anything but postseason cannon fodder.
Tanier, unlike Tyler Dunne, used a very, very, very harsh word to describe Bowles’ decision. Much worse than “surrender.”
And Tanier isn’t wrong about Bowles surrendering. He either was caught in a deer-in-the-headlights moment and froze, or his proud ego couldn’t bear to admit his players and his defense were incapable of stopping Allen — which they were incapable of in the second half.
A dude walking around with a white cane could see this. Folks watching from Maine to California could see this. But Bowles apparently didn’t want to see this.
So, giving the ball back to Allen at that moment, sure, Joe can see how “surrender” is an apt word. The game was voluntarily thrown away.
Killer instinct, right?
So you wonder why people outside Tampa Bay don’t give the Bucs respect? Because the Bucs too often play bad football and make dumb in-game decisions in big games against big opponents, just like you’d expect from a team that always wins a garbage division but proves a few times a year it’s not good enough or smart enough to hang with the big boys consistently.
@953wdae Was Sunday’s Bucs game against the Bills, Todd Bowles’ worst coached game? #WeAreTheKrewe ♬ original sound – 953wdae
November 18th, 2025 at 9:01 am
Ground Hog Year!
November 18th, 2025 at 9:06 am
Didn’t he receive a contract extension this year??
November 18th, 2025 at 9:08 am
Lane Kiffin
November 18th, 2025 at 9:11 am
Toilet Bowl needs to GO!!
November 18th, 2025 at 9:15 am
The players and talent of the roster is all the keeps this team going.
Bowl’s is NOT the guy to get this team to another Super Bowl, he is the guy holding them.
Why no pressure on opposing QBs? Because the D Coordinator/AKA Head Coach has his pass rushers dropping into coverage.
November 18th, 2025 at 9:16 am
Sad really! Lovie2.0. Go Bowles?
November 18th, 2025 at 9:17 am
Well stated Joe.
The only prime time games we can ever win with certainty are Super Bowls.
We are the Bucs and we do weird stuff.
November 18th, 2025 at 9:18 am
The surrender reference could also be when Bowles pulls BM6 out of the game with 36 ish seconds left. Teams do score fast and kick onside kicks, recover and score again . Doesn’t happen often but it does happen. Bowles is a quitter always has been. He sets a bad example for his players. Then he has the nerve to say the game is 60 minutes… We need to finish games.
November 18th, 2025 at 9:23 am
GREAT to see people FINALLY stop blowing hot air to inflate Bowels undeserved rep and see him as mediocre as he truly is…
Doesn’t have a winnable coaching ability or instinct…
The Bucs and fans deserve BETTER!
November 18th, 2025 at 9:24 am
I have been saying for years bowles needed to go ! He needs to be fired this team
Will go nowhere with him running the team!
November 18th, 2025 at 9:28 am
Todd Bowles is who he is and is certainly not in the image of the Detroit Lions. They remain a strong playoff team whereas the Bucs are on the outside team looking in.
He won’t change and the Glazers will stand by and do nothing. They will have enough ammo to make a change next year. It all depends on how loud the fan base and management can force a change.
Will it happen? I don’t know but the force for change better be loud and clear.
November 18th, 2025 at 9:29 am
I think the problem is his ego. Like Lovie Smith, he stubbornly will not adjust. The Glazer put up with Lovie for 2 years but will they launch Bowles? Too bad this conversation did not come up last year and Todd could have retired and Coen promoted. Now there will have to be a search and it is likely the Bucs will be competing with the ATL, TN, the Giants, Miami and possibly a few other teams like Washington, Arizona and the Jets. Bucs will not be the top landing spot from that list. Nonetheless Bowles has to be held accountable but will only be held accountable if the Glazers are accountable….. Are they accountable??????
November 18th, 2025 at 9:31 am
Bring in L Kiffen next year as HC,,, innovator at offense and can hire a real DC ,, he would be this generations Gruden to come finish the job Todd started ,,’the game may have passed Todd by
November 18th, 2025 at 9:32 am
Deja Vu all over again
November 18th, 2025 at 9:32 am
I like Todd but he depends on the defense too much and has ‘surrendered’ few times in the past. Its getting old.
November 18th, 2025 at 9:32 am
Bowles quitting on his team also reminds me of last season when the Buc’s were down several scores playing the Chiefs and BM6 brought them back and scored as the clock was winding down. If the Buc’s went for two and make it, they beat the Chiefs on national TV… but Bowles has them just tie the game and go into overtime where they lost the coin toss and the game. He has no feel for the game.
November 18th, 2025 at 9:33 am
Lane Kiffen is most likely going to Gainesville if he decides to make a move to the Sunshine State. No way he goes to the Bucs but it would be fun. Imagine the pressers and the complaints he would make when the refs burn the Bucs along with record fines.
November 18th, 2025 at 9:34 am
No to Lane Kiffen.
November 18th, 2025 at 9:40 am
The Glazers extending Bowels accomplished nothing except to make him even more complacent. Easily the dumbest ownership move of the century.
November 18th, 2025 at 9:41 am
it wasnt too long ago that BA said todd should be up for coach of the year. lol.
lol at any of the garbage “of the year” predictions when the season is a 1/3 or 1/2 over.
it wasnt too long ago that MANY were non stop hyping the bucs as a lock to win the south. now, not so much hey. dream weaver may get his shot at knocking the so called kings off their high horse.
November 18th, 2025 at 9:43 am
D E I hire to satisfy the NFL, if and when he’s gone he will not be a coach with any NFL team.
November 18th, 2025 at 9:45 am
813BucBoi is not having a good day.
November 18th, 2025 at 9:46 am
It takes two losses for all the local racists to start commenting. It is basic football – you punt from your own 39. That was the right call. What was not the right call was the 3rd down.
November 18th, 2025 at 9:47 am
The Glazers are idiots for extending Bowles in the off season first off. Now we’re stuck with a proven failure as HC / DC. We deserve better.
November 18th, 2025 at 9:47 am
The only Super Bowl us fans will see is the rerun of Super Bowl 55 as long as Bowles is the head coach.
November 18th, 2025 at 9:49 am
I’ve been, I guess, a tepid TB defender. Not saying he is great, but that he hasn’t done anything to lose his job and he is an average to good coach. Also, he’s never come close to losing the locker room.
I actually still believe he is a decent coach, but the ceiling has been reached. Nobody sensible would say to fire him before the end of the season, but if this thing ends in a one and done it’s just time. What’s funny is there are two other coaches (Buffalo and Green Bay) that could say the same thing. Remember, Marty Shottenheimer got fired after 12-4 and a first round exit.
Of course, if they run the table and we have a boat parade I will be incredibly happy to be wrong.
November 18th, 2025 at 9:52 am
One of Bowels many failures as a leader is his complacency. That complacency has been trickling down to the defensive players. That trickle became a flood during the bye week.
The offensive players view Mayfield and not Bowels as their leader. So far, they have been immune from the Bowels virus.
November 18th, 2025 at 9:53 am
Not sure that in the moment Todd Bowles realized what a fatal mistake it was. I think he is that stupid. Funny thing is we all immediately realized it. I have only watched NFL since 2015, I am a woman who never played football. I do not fully understand coverages. These words came out of my mouth when Bowles did that. “Cannot believe he just punted, there is no way we will win this game now” my husband who is an average football fan said, “What just happened? Why aren’t they going for it?” He left the TV at that point and never came back to the game. I mean it just simply was that obvious to us average fans that it was a surrender.
November 18th, 2025 at 9:58 am
Mikeinlutz That D.E.I comment is bull s…t not called for!!
November 18th, 2025 at 9:59 am
Yup.
After a promising start, Bowles has fully reverted back to his default state of being: a passive coward.
Team takes in the mentality of their head coach.
Playoff cannon fodder is the perfect description. I for one will not celebrate this ineptitude and mediocrity when we go on a win streak against a couple bottom feeders late in the season and then get embarrassed in the wild card round again.
November 18th, 2025 at 9:59 am
The surrender started at the trade deadline. Good teams get better when they have the opportunity. Licht has been lauded as a draft guru so much that he actually believes it. The picks in April won’t help this team for at least two years. This team needed help now. 9-8 and one and done in the playoffs. The signature Bowles season.
November 18th, 2025 at 10:02 am
Sorry folks.
Todd Bowls ain’t going nowhere…
Doom loop of mediocrity will continue.
6-5 here we come.
November 18th, 2025 at 10:03 am
Please tell me in the contract where it states Bowles can’t be fired? I’m sure the Gazer boys would be dumb enough to have that in a contract and leave themselves no way out.
November 18th, 2025 at 10:04 am
Well if Bowles has learned anything from the last 2 weeks it is that if he gets anywhere near the 50 yard line he better be going for it every time because his defense is not going to stop anyone at all period. So you better have long drives on offense that produce points every time.
November 18th, 2025 at 10:07 am
Not when the game is clearly slipping away.
Not when your defense couldn’t stop a pee wee team.
Not when you are running the ball down the throat of a soft run defense.
November 18th, 2025 at 10:07 am
Great take Racistinlutz..
November 18th, 2025 at 10:10 am
Sheesh, I can’t wait until the Bucs win this Sunday to see what everyone has to say after. It’s not like he has been the only losing coach in history. And the season has been a lot better than some other teams whose coaches aren’t on the hot seat either.
Drunk Bucs Fan – Agree about Coach Bowles.
November 18th, 2025 at 10:13 am
It’s funny how Bowles gets crucified because he went for it on fourth down one week and then again he punts the next week. Honestly the National talking heads just have diarrhea off the mouth. Let’s talk about the real problem the Bucs have; SHORT YARDAGE!! This team sucks out loud on short yardage. We don’t have a play anywhere on the field. We can’t convert at midfield or against the goal line, we have absolutely no play anywhere. That is the true problem. Bowles stop going for two when you don’t need to, there is no offensive play for short yardage. So what does Bowles do? Go for it and give up great field position, because we don’t have a two yard play in the offensive playbook, or just punt and let them drive down field. I guess the easiest answer is just give up good field position and get the ball back sooner. This arrow should be pointed at Gizzard.
November 18th, 2025 at 10:14 am
I ease the pain by hate listening to Atlanta Falcons sports talk radio and enjoying the fact that they and the Saints are playing for the cellar this weekend
November 18th, 2025 at 10:14 am
Jon Gruden
November 18th, 2025 at 10:15 am
I just read an article on NBCsports about Bowles endgame decision making. They are 💯 correct and that’s the thing… There have been just way too many weird things that make no sense. And, it’s always been soooo inconsistent. Just very odd and most of the time clueless in-game decisions. Bringing Teddy in straight off the couch already halfway through training camp and preseason is just completely off the wall… And, then to not even trust him to THROW A PASS!? Totally, INSANE. Makes ZERO fricking sense. I always viewed Bowles as just a placeholder (and virtue-signal for the owners), until they found, and then, POUNCED on the ‘right’ guy. That’s exactly how HE should’ve been looked at, but then, THEY freakin’ extend HIM. Again, like most of their moves… On the cheap. He’s gotten a little better, but there is still, just way too much ‘nonsensical’ stuff. It also, makes NO SENSE to me WHY you would continue holding onto a coach, that you are forced to hire ‘specialists’ underneath him, to tell him when to call timeouts, how to manage the clock, and etc. He has absolutely, NO ‘FEEL’ or instincts for the game, and he is just too OLD for the modern game. I don’t see a lot of alpha energy out there on the field… These guys are way too comfortable. They’ve got to get someone in there to light a FIRE and ruffle some feathers. Hell, this has been a historically BAD Division going on 5-years running. It’s all “smoke & mirrors.” They are all really a bunch of frauds, and I hate to say that. That’s why everyone across the league ‘likes them’ but doesn’t respect them. They’re all too nice. It’s all a bunch of Bullspit.
November 18th, 2025 at 10:17 am
Well Joe sobering article. Unfortunately spot on. Also unfortunate we are on national tv this week against the Rams. Presently, I don’t think this game is going to boost our image, except to further prove what you so accurately stated.
Today it certainly looks we will certainly be embarrassed.
November 18th, 2025 at 10:18 am
Jets fans warned us back in the day
November 18th, 2025 at 10:19 am
Bejeezusbelt – Ya, disappointed in Grizz. Poor Baker has had several OC’s. I bet he is tiring of it all too. Special Teams coach too. Not that great for weeks.
It isn’t all on Bowles. Plus, we have had key injuries, and a lot of bad ref calls and no calls on opposing teams.
November 18th, 2025 at 10:20 am
You got folks talking about championship def.,before the bye week. No!!!
AC/DC keep your draft picks No!!!
Ohh the injury situation brilliant. After the rams loss u better win out 🤙🏾
November 18th, 2025 at 10:22 am
I mean, I already knew the reasons for why… But, that was just the (lol) ‘long-winded’ version of agreeing with Joe, about why we continue to get such very little respect, nationally.
November 18th, 2025 at 10:23 am
Hell, there’s old Sean Tucker on “Wake Up Barstool” today!!!!
November 18th, 2025 at 10:24 am
Do yall do this much complaining in your daily life? Move on. Games over let’s look forward.
November 18th, 2025 at 10:25 am
I hear people say “Todd bowl’s defense” this “”
November 18th, 2025 at 10:31 am
LV says !! Just said it All !!
I’m tellin Ya !! that thing stanks !!
I doesn’t wants to hear it later !! You done have been Tolt !!
November 18th, 2025 at 10:32 am
The old school mentality is that you punt the ball on your own 39 to at least give yourself a chance to get a stop. But that’s the old school mentality.
Fear drives that mentality – “if we don’t get it the game is over because of field position”
The reality was, barring a turn over the game was over as soon as you punted it away. So the fear of not getting the conversion should have been moot and would have been with a younger coach with an offensive play calling background.
November 18th, 2025 at 10:36 am
I like Lane. It would be Homerun hire 💯 but HE ain’t comin. Maybe, AFTER he is fired at LSU or FloDuh… And, that might be AWHILE. I watch Paul Finebaum EVERYDAY. I can’t see this cheap FO paying $15-MIL+ per year for ANY COACH, and that is exactly what it’d take. Plus, I don’t believe Lane has ANY desire to coach in the NFL again, at least not anytime soon. And, I don’t blame him. He’s GREAT for college football.
November 18th, 2025 at 10:37 am
No doubt the Bowles experience looks like it is about at its ceiling. He can win this garbage division, but we aren’t going much further than that regardless of whether he has a healthy roster or not. He just got an extension so my guess is the earliest he is out of here is after next season. Until then, its the same stuff. Good luck having Yaya cover Puka this weekend Todd. It ain’t working dude. Maybe you should let him rush the passer….
November 18th, 2025 at 10:41 am
6-5 incoming. I would at least like to see some signs of life in the defense, even if it is roughing the passer and fighting penalties.
November 18th, 2025 at 10:41 am
Mike McDaniels 32W-30L (0-2 playoffs)
Todd Bowles 33W-28L (1-3 playoffs)
We are too damn talented to be where we are. We don’t win because Bowles is our coach. We win despite him holding us back. We could easily be 1st or 2nd in the NFC if we had a great coach with this roster. Killer instinct comes from the coach. Look at Dan Campbell, they had 18 players on IR last year and they never gave up, played hard and were close to the NFC championship game.
November 18th, 2025 at 10:41 am
gofortheface30 Says:
November 18th, 2025 at 9:45 am
813BucBoi is not having a good day.
you’re right!!!!!
im having a GREAT day!!!!
6wins and leading the division…#4 seed if the playoffs started today….
great day indeed!!!!!
GO BUCS!!!!
November 18th, 2025 at 10:41 am
Good luck hiring a better coach with a sub 5 million dollar salary. Go look up salaries for all coaches in the NfL. Bucs always in the bottom 5.
So
Who do you all think we’re gonna replace Bowles with??
November 18th, 2025 at 10:52 am
It is NOT a “racist” for calling it what it IS. NOT when the FO and BA were all openly bragging about passing it on to a “Black” Coach, while still in a very good situation, a great team with good players, and a solid foundation, blah, blah, blah, & etc. EVERYONE praised it from ESPN, Stephen A. and on down the line. Because, the big national narrative was that “Black” Head Coaches ALWAYS, got crappy JUNK jobs, & etc. When, that is actually true for EVERY Frickin’ COACH. Ya know, 99% of them, regardless of ‘color’ of skin, are usually taking over a BAD situation with a CRAP team, or otherwise, the previous coach would’ve never been fired in the first place. I mean, come on. But, the Owners basked in all of this! Ya know, because they are just soooo virtuous and everything.
November 18th, 2025 at 10:57 am
Most likely the Bucs will finish up in ‘The Bowleszone’ as usual. Right about 50/50. Other teams will dictate the outcome of this season. Bowles will just chug along and wait to see what happens. 8-9 or 9-8 or maybe even 8-8-1 for the perfect Bowleszone record. Seems good enough tor the owners. Oh well. Hum de Dum de Doo.
November 18th, 2025 at 10:58 am
PS the thrill is gone
November 18th, 2025 at 11:01 am
Look at Payton and the Broncos.
November 18th, 2025 at 11:05 am
I’m honestly exhausted from hearing people label the criticism as racist when, in reality, the concerns are purely about his coaching performance. This has nothing to do with who he is as a person—he’s genuinely a great guy, the kind of person you’d welcome at a BBQ without hesitation. But when it comes to coaching, the results just aren’t there. You can appreciate someone’s character while still acknowledging that they’re not the right fit for the job, and that’s all this is. It’s not personal—it’s simply the truth about his abilities as a coach.
November 18th, 2025 at 11:09 am
Wanting a coach fired is apparently racist? Ahh yes, the victimhood inferiority complex losers (roaches), bottom of the barrel, carnival cruise taking losers in society will unfortunately never go away. The YAS QUEENS that say “deadass” every other word – the McDonald’s workers that blames society for their shortcomings
November 18th, 2025 at 11:21 am
Honestly, I would take Gruden at this point, at least he would get the team fired up and ready to play.
November 18th, 2025 at 11:23 am
If I said to the fans here that our government is corrupt and rigged and the politicians are corrupt and are not concerned about their constituents but are only concerned about staying office and enriching themselves, most of you would likely agree.
However if I said the same about the NFL and the owners many of you would likely not agree. WHY ?
November 18th, 2025 at 11:29 am
Open your eyes folks. The NFL is feeding you a turd burger and many of you are swallowing and asking for more. Have you noticed the recent arrests of NBA players and a coach or the MLB arrests ?
November 18th, 2025 at 11:54 am
So, I do not see the Glazers firing him during the season. In fact, I find it very unlikely they do this coming off season.
However…the two times we won a superbowl was with an offensive HC…so there is that.
I have seen the point made about Tony Dungy…and yes, he was fired for less…that’s kind of the point. Tony Dungy accomplished less for this team than Todd Bowles.
I personally think Todd Bowles is a great head coach…but I also feel he needs a real DC. I said that last year, I’ll say it again. His stubbornness to coach the defense is what has stopped him from reaching the top.
But I feel duty bound to point out that the team decided to build around Baker Mayfield before focusing on the defense. It was the right decision but the result is a weaker defense.
They only just started focusing on fixing the defense, and you cannot have rightfully expected it to be fixed with one draft. The result is Todd Bowles did not have the talent to work with on defense. Yes, we have some pieces, but not nearly enough.
Every year, fans here complain about no trades and no movement in free agency. And yet, Jason Licht managed to build a young offense around Baker Mayfield. He knows what he is doing. He’ll build a stellar defense too…but it takes more than one off season.
With all of that said, I DO think that we will win the division and reach the NFC Championship game. Maybe even the big game. This year. But it won’t feel that way this week.
November 18th, 2025 at 11:55 am
I 💯 agree, Josh. I’ve said exactly that myself, several times. Todd seems-like a great dude and everyone likes him. The players really do appear to respect him. I just believe that we need a much younger, modern day HC. We HAD one in-house, but then let him get away. It’s crazy. Sickening, really. As far as race goes, I’m only going off of what the Owners/FO/BA and the national media all said. THAT was all THEIR narrative. NOT mine or anyone else’s, on here.
The very last part of my original comment did not go through, for some reason… Maybe, it was censored!? I really don’t know, but here goes… I’ll try it again.
But, the Owners basked in all of this! Ya know, because they are just soooo virtuous and everything. MUCH BETTER that you. That’s exactly what they said… Look at US. Look what WE DID for the Black Man. 💯
November 18th, 2025 at 11:56 am
Ego? What has this defense done all year to get a big ego about? If that is truly the case bowels needs to kick rocks.
November 18th, 2025 at 11:58 am
Day 1-76 Says:
November 18th, 2025 at 9:59 am
The surrender started at the trade deadline. Good teams get better when they have the opportunity. Licht has been lauded as a draft guru so much that he actually believes it. The picks in April won’t help this team for at least two years.
^^^^^^^^
If you followed the Bucs, you’d know that their 4th Round pick from last year was one of their best players. Several players have had good rookie years since Licht has been the Bucs GM.
November 18th, 2025 at 11:59 am
The ostrich effect is alive and well.
November 18th, 2025 at 12:08 pm
@ Buccaneer Bonzai – They’ve had plenty of time to get this defense worked-out. That’s why I said a few years back that 2026 will be OUR YEAR. I thought the defense ‘rebuild’ would be complete by then. And, unless they are VERY ‘active and aggressive’ during THIS offseason in free-agency, & etc. I do not see THIS defense making that type of leap. They appear to be quite a ways off. But, A LOT can happen during just one NFL offseason. The problem being, Winfield Junior seems to have regressed, Lavonte is aging fast, Vea is starting to get up there, and there is a major depth problem, especially at LB. I am just not seeing the improvement in any aspect, either. We don’t have those NASTY alpha DAWGS.
November 18th, 2025 at 12:13 pm
Remember B.A. Baracus of the A Team ? He had a favorite saying.
November 18th, 2025 at 12:14 pm
TODDS DEFENCE WILL GET THERE ASS HANDED TO THEM AGAINST THE RAMS AND TODD WILL LOSE THAT LOCKER ROOM ! KEEP PLAYING SOFT ZONE AND YOUR DONE !
November 18th, 2025 at 12:16 pm
Joe in Mich, the Cowboys got a good DT at the deadline, and he helped in their win last night. We lost Kancey, a trade like that could’ve helped us. Licht thinks this is a S.B. roster, injuries be damned. Maybe Licht is starting to feel players like Braz, Morrison, Dennis, YaYa aren’t being coached good enough? We’ll see where we’re at seasons end, than it’s up to the Glazers. I don’t think Todd’s extention is worth the paper it’s printed on. Results this season will matter.
November 18th, 2025 at 12:16 pm
MEANWHILE, COEN IS KICKING BUTT WITH THE JAGS AND CANALS HAS GOT THE PANTHERS RIGHT ON OUR TAIL.. ANOTHER GREAT JASON LIGHT DECISION KEEPING BOWLES INSTEAD OF HIRING COHEN !
November 18th, 2025 at 12:41 pm
People seem to completely forget that Bowles, in a game that was a 100% shootout, also punted twice from the Bills 42 yard line. Additionally, of course, he failed to challenge a terrible spot on a play that resulted in 4th and inches – while wasting a challenge on obvious non-catch in the 1st quarter.
I’m not someone that hates on Bowles constantly – but man does he make a ton of stupid decisions. Maybe the team needs an co-head coach that can make all these decision for Bowles and let him just focus on the defense.
November 18th, 2025 at 12:42 pm
It’s really amazing what Cohen has done in JAX with low energy, incompetent Trevor Lawrence, and a weak roster. Also, with Brian Thomas Junior now OUT, and after having a real down season with TL as his QB. They really should be 7-3 right now, and lookin’ PRETTY with a full 2-game lead in the ‘wildcard’ standings (3-games over the Chiefs, having won the head-to-head). I have absolutely NO IDEA HOW they blew that game in Houston like that, after having a BIG 4th-Quarter lead, and DOMINATING the entire first 3-Quarters. Now, that was a real tough one. Especially, inside the Division. I HATED the Travis Hunter move. I thought it was SO DUMB. But, they have a gazillion other picks in this upcoming draft to make up for it. Their owner is DESPERATE to WIN and Cohen is HIS GUY. They have that new stadium opening in the near future, while they build-up the roster and depth… The owner will spare NO EXPENSE. It just makes you SICK. Everyone is Orlando will be jumping on the bandwagon (after the season(s) there, during the construction of the stadium), they’ll be the new ‘it’ team and FUN to watch. The Bucs FO cannot spare ANY expense… They HAVE TO make a big-splash, HOMERUN hire for their next Head Coach. It could get REAL BAD.
November 18th, 2025 at 12:48 pm
Yeah, Rod… I was actually, much more dumbfounded about the calls you mentioned here, than what I was concerning the very last one.
November 18th, 2025 at 1:17 pm
Jason is the bigger problem, he hies and fires coaches, he brings in players. Todd was a losing head coach, his defenses are from the last decade, football offenses have fundamentally changed, not Todd’s defenses. Fire Jason and Todd they’re linked losers.
November 18th, 2025 at 1:41 pm
Chris Godwin’s ankle was shattered last year in a game that out of hand and people jumped all over Todd. Now takes a knee and still people criticize
November 18th, 2025 at 1:54 pm
Same story different year.
Groundhog Year is right!
Bowles needed to be shown the door with Leftwich. Not trusting Brady in Pittsburgh. Unbelievable. Instead we wasted 2 good rosters and let younger legit HC candidates, having what I would say is great success, walk out the door.
Canales, Coen, Vrabel were all better options but players love Bowles, culture guy, can’t get results but boy do we love him around here.
November 18th, 2025 at 2:44 pm
Bowles is a full fledged clown. The worst thing is our GM thinks he’s GREAT!
November 18th, 2025 at 2:46 pm
Almost every time the Bucs are on national television, whether it is a primetime game or against a real opponent when a network pipes the game into the majority of households in the country from coast to coast, like this past Sunday, the Bucs find ways to lose.
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These stories read almost word for word to what I have been writing on these forums for the last two years. Took a lot of grief over that time. But the truth is the truth and I take no pleasure in writing what I did. Bowles has got to go! He is .500 coach and he has hit his ceiling over and over again!! The Glazers need to stop dithering and get going on a replacement!
November 18th, 2025 at 3:03 pm
I like Todd Bowels very much. I don’t like Sean Payton at all. Sean Payton is a much better coach. Let’s find a Sean Payton surrogate and let Todd B play bingo 6 days a week.
November 18th, 2025 at 3:05 pm
Durango 95, the problem now is that we’ve waited so long! A couple of potentially better replacements are already head coaches. I don’t think the next head coach is in the building. I’m still waiting to see what Grizzard can do for the rest of the year. I want to see how he addresses our red zone issues. That’s the most glaring blemish on him rn imo.
November 18th, 2025 at 3:28 pm
Stuck in Green… don’t forget 3rd downs . Red zone scoring, 3rd down conversion, and getting away from the run game when it’s effective.
November 18th, 2025 at 3:31 pm
Grizzard is doing a way better job with the cards that have been dealt him then Bowles and the defense.
November 18th, 2025 at 4:00 pm
I didnt understand the 3 year extension. He was a few games over 500 with Brady and 2 pro bowl years of Mayfield. This should have been a prove it year. Prove you can coach a top 8 team in the league. What do we have? A team that finds its way to barely winning a division with 3 teams competing for top 10 draft picks. Jon Gruden is my choice for next season.
November 18th, 2025 at 4:58 pm
Get r done Todd
November 18th, 2025 at 5:01 pm
So tiring reading all of these comments. I agree that running twice on 3rd and 2 was the answer. But on 4th down the argument can clearly be made for punting. Maybe not so much in that game because there’s a feel involved and the defense was not playing well but an argument can clearly be made. There’s so many racist undertones in these comments eventually I start to feel like there’s 2 people commenting with 50 different names. Bowles is a very good coach and has had moments of greatness in his career. I would hope next time he goes for it if his defense is playing flat. The offense was playing great! Other than too much passing, I mean. Especially in short yardage. Everyone has an opinion and most of them are usually wrong. We win the division- and a HUGE infusion of talent is coming. REMEMBER THAT.
November 18th, 2025 at 5:48 pm
You think the outrage is bad now? Wait till Monday morning after the Rams game. There’s gonna be LA style riots in here.
November 18th, 2025 at 5:57 pm
I said the same this to my wife when Bowles made that decision … “we just lost the game. The only chance we had was to go for it. The Bills are going to march down the field and eat all the time off the clock”.
And that’s exactly what happened.
Still, it’s Bowles and he believes in his defense even if nothing has indicated, thus far, that there’s a reason for the belief. There have been other instances where that decision was the right one this season.
If he went for it and didn’t get it, there’d be a whole different set of criticism for how stupid it was to go for it in your own territory. In the end, the special teams and defense lost the game. Nothing to do about it but shut up, stop whining about it and try again next week.
November 18th, 2025 at 6:17 pm
Mike McCarthy doesn’t surrender. JS
November 18th, 2025 at 7:44 pm
Shut up Nate 1976. Free speech
November 18th, 2025 at 7:59 pm
This is why my vote is automatically “NO CONFIDENCE” in the poll. Todd Bowles lacks killer instinct, therefore, his team lacks killer instinct!
He’s a good D-Coordinator, as a HC, him and his teams are playoff cannon fodder. The lack of emotion, the mostly vapid personality, it doesn’t seem to do anything for the team. Sure we don’t want another emotional child on the sideline like, Greg Schiano, but show them something, let the team see you’re in there with them.
Bring Suh back, have him teach these guys how to stomp on heads and legs and get after it. This soft play is for Cincinnati or the Saints, this is not Buc Ball!
November 18th, 2025 at 11:58 pm
Durango is correct we have seen it year after year Bowles is not good Priod
November 19th, 2025 at 2:18 pm
His facial expressions for the past 4 years says it all. YOU can take this anyway you want. This was a DEI hire, no other team would take this guy as a head coach let a alone a D.C. He thinks this is 1987 and still playing for the Redskins. If a pathetic Organization like the Jets fire Todd for his coaching style and we give him a contract extension what does that tell you.
November 19th, 2025 at 6:56 pm
“This was a DEI hire, no other team would take this guy as a head coach let a alone a D.C. He thinks this is 1987 and still playing for the Redskins. If a pathetic Organization like the Jets fire Todd for his coaching style and we give him a contract extension what does that tell you.”
The players love and respect Bowles as do many well respected football pundits, ex-GMs and players. Fire him, and the team may very well quit on whomever replaces him.
Your comment about the pathetic Jets organization is a contradiction unto itself. If the organization is so pathetic (it is), then why believe any coach, QB or player could make any difference whatsoever. The Jets fly through QBs and coaches faster than almost any organization out there (except maybe the equally pathetic other New York/New Jersey team, the Giants). Every coach the Jets hire sucks because the entire organization sucks. Both NY teams are more concerned about appeasing know-nothing fans than listening to actual football people about what is best for building a team. Please don’t let the Bucs organization do the same by reading most of the innane drivel here!