29 And Counting

May 3rd, 2024

Rough streak.

Should a player be expected to do something well in the pros when he couldn’t get that same thing done in college?

It’s an important question at One Buc Palace.

Joe has written about this when it comes to pass rushers and other positions. Today, Joe’s focus is on cornerback.

Bucs No. 1 corner Jamel Dean, a 2019 third-round draft pick, had two interceptions in 26 college games at Auburn. That’s not a special ratio. Dean hasn’t been much better with the Bucs, with seven picks in 77 games.

It’s sort of who Dean is. But this week, Bucs cornerbacks coach Kevin Ross was demanding more of Dean to local media.

“Catch the ball!” Ross said with emphasis about Dean. “If he catches the ball, he’s an All-Pro, he’s a Pro Bowler.”

Joe will add that Dean is on a remarkable 29-game streak without a pick, including playoffs.

Ross wants his cornerbacks catching 50 balls a day in spring practice.

“We could have led the league last year in takeaways had we caught the ball the way we needed to,” Ross said.

A two-time Pro Bowler, Ross had 38 interceptions in his NFL career, so he’s not blowing smoke.

Ross added that catching a lot of balls in practice doesn’t translate to success in games but it’s a nice place to start.

38 Responses to “29 And Counting”

  1. Rod Munch Says:

    If he could catch, he would have been a WR.

  2. Crickett Baker Says:

    At the very least he is telling us the way he is going to “coach better”. I liked it.

  3. AL121976 Says:

    29 games and no picks is not a track record. That is truly hard to believe. We really could’ve used that pick he dropped in the Detroit game

  4. Jarrett Says:

    Why did we trade our best corner to Detroit ???

  5. BucsFan55 Says:

    Jarrett Says:
    May 3rd, 2024 at 2:16 pm
    Why did we trade our best corner to Detroit ???

    —–

    Because he played less snaps than Zyon McCollum and Christian Izien

  6. zzbucs Says:

    @Jarrett

    Because when you overpay a mediocre player, who is always injured, you have to get rid of him…… Jason licht worst decision was to offer CDIII that contract, best decision JL ever made was trade him to Dtroit for a third roudne

  7. Pryda…sec147 Says:

    Ugh I get annoyed thinking about the dropped INTs horrible

  8. Lauri’s jones Says:

    Lots of praise for Hsll—just saying.

  9. Lol Says:

    He dropped an INT in the playoff loss to Detroit that would have helped tremendously

  10. catcard202 Says:

    If Dean had ball skills, AUB would have made him a WR with his 4.3 speed…Not a CB.

    Getting picks would be nice, but not getting burnt over the top or breaking late in zone would be fine with me.

    He is what he is (stone hands & all)…But if he can just stay healthy enough to be available for 17 weeks, I’d be happy with that!

  11. Beeej Says:

    Wonder how many catchable INT’s we dropped last year

  12. WilieG Says:

    Sean Murphy-Bunting used to get picks. I vaguely remember 3 consecutive playoff games where he got picks.

  13. Rod Munch Says:

    Jarrett Says:
    May 3rd, 2024 at 2:16 pm
    Why did we trade our best corner to Detroit ???

    ———

    Because he wasn’t good in that awful, super soft Bowles zone defense – and Bowles wants to play nearly exclusively soft sloppy zone this season. That’s why he got rid of Davis, and let White walk – you don’t need special players if they’re just going to stand around not doing anything.

  14. Rod Munch Says:

    WilieG Says:
    May 3rd, 2024 at 3:08 pm
    Sean Murphy-Bunting used to get picks.

    ———-

    Yeah, but the issue was all the blown coverages and getting beat.

    Personally I’ll take a corner to who can actually over over one who can’t, but can catch the occasional ball thrown his way.

    Sure, you’d love to have both, but those players are exceeding rare these days.

  15. OR Buc Says:

    It’s def true we need more picks, but at the very least, I think JD and CD3 are high up in the rankings for defended passes

  16. Tim Says:

    Shaq Barrett once said that when Dean is trying to catch an INT, “he doesn’t look like he’s trying to catch it, he looks like he’s trying to fight with it” lol. Always cracks me up when I think of it.

  17. Jeffrey Becker Says:

    cmon munch that’s just silly. all he has is speed.

  18. SlyPirate Says:

    After conquering Greece, Philip II of Macedon sent a message to Sparta:
    “If I invade Laconia you will be destroyed, never to rise again.”

    Leonidas, Spartan King, replied with a single word:
    “If.”

    Love that word … except in the case of missing interceptions.

  19. Joe in Michigan Says:

    There Rod Munch goes again, making stuff up. How does an NFL defense give up less than 20 points per game if they’re “just standing around”? I’ll give you Devin White, it’s obvious he doesn’t care about football, but you’re saying Lavonte David was just standing around? Antoine Winfield Jr. was just standing around? Nah.

  20. KABucs Says:

    Coach Ross had 6 picks his rookie year and avg 3.7 picks per season in his first 7 seasons in the NFL.
    LISTEN TO THE MAN!!!
    A lot of the secondary players we’ve added can catch so hopefully that helps. Zion is making it a goal this season. Dean has bricks for mitts… he should catch way more that 50 balls a day to help change that.

  21. gotbbucs Says:

    The dropped interception in the Detroit playoff game was the last straw for me. That had the potential to be a 105 yard pick-six and could have flipped the momentum of that game on its head. He’s probably playing on borrowed time right now. Let’s hope Bryce Hall can push him for playing time at that spot.
    Dean’s run support is terrific, but my God does that guy ever have trouble catching footballs that hit him in the hands.

  22. Mark A Swygert Says:

    Just watched SB 37 rerun on NFL network. They revealed a stat about those 2002 Bucs that is astounding. They only gave up 10 TD passes that regular season while picking off 31. The opposing QB’s passer rating against that unit was only 48. They picked off 9 more in the post season, People can debate about who had the best defense ever, you know the steel curtain of the 70’s, the 85 Bears, the 2000 Ravens, and maybe one of those teams deserves the overall nod, but there is no doubt in my mind that the 2002 Buccaneers had the best pass defense in NFL history.

  23. Jeffs grandpa Says:

    He would of had a 100 yd pick 6 in Lions playoff game if he could catch

  24. Craig Says:

    He is not even a CB, he is a heat seeking missile with cleats on.

  25. FunderStruck Says:

    Sorry that this is off-topic, but I couldn’t DM you on Twitter: can you comment on the change to your syndication that no longer feeds through RSS? For years, I’ve used Feedly (or something similar) and as of Day 1 of the draft, I no longer get new JBF notification.

    If it was intentional, help me understand the reason; it just makes it a huge pain to access the content now without it. It’s been a solid 2 days since I heard something about edge rushers or that White can’t run to green holes, and I don’t know what to do with myself. 😊

  26. Matt_PcAfee Says:

    I remember every week seeing Davis on the bad end of a play.. Usually face down a$$ up. I was embarrassed for him, he was getting owned!

  27. dmatt Says:

    If often injured, butter finger Dean continue his history of dropped passes n injuries, I can see Bryce Hall taking either his spot or Zyon. I’m sure JWhitehead vetted for BHall to come to But land. Folks won’t forget the dropped pass by Dean in the playoff that could’ve been an easy pick six. He’s fast n passive. Coaches gotta put their foot down n be done with these guys that are fast, passive, n drop easy passes that could’ve been a pick six, can u say JTS Bengals game 2022.

  28. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Not all CBs that are good get picks. Revis wasn’t known for it either.

  29. Capt.Tim Says:

    Dean and Davis both read the predictions for last year, and the two of them decided to coast, and wait for better days.
    They were playing to stay healthy.
    Zyon and Izien were playing to win

    That will piss off your coaches and GM.
    And get you traded to Detroit.
    Dean has one year left on his contract.
    Probably his last year here.
    Look for a CB in the first couple rounds.
    And since weve decided not to address it this Year, a DE pass rusher.

    And no, Braswell will replace Shaq. Shaq was a LB.
    Didnt find anyone to replace the clueless and carefree JTS.
    Get to watch him lolligagging on the field one more year.

  30. Larrd Says:

    Dean is very good if healthy. Tight coverage can lead to picks for other players, too.

  31. Bakersnumber1fan Says:

    Captn Tim:

    Braswell on one side and Diaby on the other side. Jts will not be starting.

  32. Capt Ahab Says:

    Braswell will take some time, don’t expect heroics from him as a rookie.

  33. Bring back the lawn chairs Says:

    If dean would produce signature lawnchairs he’d sell the crap out of those things I tell you.
    A living representative!

  34. Dadgumit Says:

    Hey…. “Should a player be expected to do something well in the pros when he couldn’t get that same thing done in college?” Really? Cut him immediately!

  35. Capt.Tim Says:

    Bakersnumber1fan,

    That would be a beautiful thing.
    But its putting a whole lot of faith in a Rookie and a First year player.
    But its my hope also.

    JTS has set such a low bar, that its not gonna be hard to take his spot.

  36. LVMYBUCS Says:

    Dean sucks he cant catch because he wears Mickey Mouse gloves

  37. Letsbucinggo Says:

    Look for Dean to be traded next off season just like Davis was this year.

  38. DavidBigBucsFan99 Says:

    Dean is the first player I’ve ever seen with fear in his eyes covering a receiver. He’s soft, afraid of contact and brittle