Will Luke Goedeke Continue His Success?
February 9th, 2024
Right tackle Luke Goedeke
One pleasant surprise of the 2023 season was the development of a guy some Bucs fans wanted to run out of town as a rookie.
In 2022, the Bucs attempted to turn a rookie MAC right tackle into a left guard. Most NFL players will tell you that flipping from one side of the ball to the other can really screw with a guy. That was a big topic of conversation when Tristan Wirfs moved from right tackle to left.
This season, the Bucs decided to return Goedeke to right tackle and he has flourished in his old (?) position. Perhaps in his second NFL season at right tackle in 2024, Goedeke may make the jump to Pro Bowl level?
Enter the NFL coaching carousel.
The Bucs’ offensive coordinator, Dave Canales, bolted to Carolina and took Goedeke’s position coach with him, Joe Gilbert. He was not the only Bucs’ offensive line coach but his primary focus was working with the tackles.
Given how the Bucs have had solid if not excellent play from their tackles since Gilbert got to Tampa, Joe thinks it is fair to wonder how that may influence the play of the tackles.
Coaches, just like players, are not cookie-cutter robots and numbers on a spreadsheet. They are all different human beings with strengths and weaknesses, both physical and mental.
Joe’s not worried about Wirfs despite Joe still not down fully with his move to left tackle. Joe thinks that may have cost Wirfs a Hall of Fame candidacy. But with a guy like Goedeke, who seemed to have just turned the corner, a change in position coaches may not be beneficial.
February 9th, 2024 at 9:16 am
I’m not impressed by the new OL coach’s resume’ and I think he’s a step down from Gilbert. Maybe the new guy can coach the run game blocking better than Goodwin and Gilbert? I hope so, as we have at least two years of poor run game blocking. I was happy how Goedeke and Mauch progressed this year, and they certainly have more upside if they get stronger.
I can’t see the Buc’s being able to afford a FA center to upgrade from Hainsey. So I don’t know what we’ll do in the draft. I’m thinking Edge should be the priority unless Jackson Powers-Johnson is available at center.
February 9th, 2024 at 9:27 am
” Joe thinks that may have cost Wirfs a Hall of Fame candidacy”
I’d think plenty of HOF lineman have had years like Wirfs in 2023 – which was still excellent lol.
I dunno tho lineman are weird it’s not like we just go off pancake stats or something
February 9th, 2024 at 9:30 am
Whos the new OL coach?
February 9th, 2024 at 9:46 am
Im the only one wanting a new RT i guess, then move him to RG, Mauch to C, Hainsey to LG. Mims at RT would be phenomenal.
February 9th, 2024 at 9:55 am
Kevin Carberry is the new OL coach. I hope Coen comes through with some good hires as I’m not too impressed with Carberry. This take below is interesting as it talks about the Rams 2022 season and explains the challenges that both Coen and Carberry faced. For the Bucs, I think we were very fortunate last year with the lack of offensive injuries.
From JC Allen article: “Carberry was the offensive line coach for the Rams from 2021-2022. He worked with Coen when he was the offensive coordinator for Los Angeles during the 2022 season. He was dismissed at the end of the year and signed on as the assistant offensive line coach with the Saints last season.
Injuries ravaged the Rams offensive line in 2022 and Carberry was forced to start 13 different offensive linemen over the 17-game season. That line was charged with replacing a retired Andrew Whitworth and Austin Corbett and allowed 59 sacks on the season starting a ton of youth and inexperienced players due to injury.”
February 9th, 2024 at 10:14 am
Goedeke will be fine as long as he becomes a master technician. His biggest area of weakness is his arm length (32 inches). When a long power edge rusher get their hands on him he loses right away and has no way to counter. That’s why he struggled with GB’s Rahsaan Gary and Englebare who were power rushers with over 34 inch arms.
The only way to defend that is to master his hand technique. If he can do that he’ll continue to do excel, but it’s a physical limitation he’ll have to compensate for his entire career.
February 9th, 2024 at 10:21 am
I think Goeddke will be fine. He’s already learned a ton from Gilbert now he gets a different viewpoint and can probably pick up a couple new tips.
February 9th, 2024 at 10:22 am
Luke will be fine and Wirfs will make the HOF if he stays healthy.
February 9th, 2024 at 10:24 am
Hurt his HOF candidacy? Wirfs was our best offensive player and a top 3 LT in the league in what was a “down year” lol. The dude is dominate. He’s only going to get better at LT. If he keeps up his level of play for another 5 years or so he’s a lock to make it to the HOF
February 9th, 2024 at 10:27 am
I’d expect Goedeke will keep improving at the position he feels most comfortable in…Coen’s system is not very different from Canales…Wide-Zone / Inside-Zone Run game…Tons of 12 personnel from bunch sets w/ TE’s acting as inline blocking protectors to help OT’s keep the pocket clean to allow play-action routes to open up WR’s for big shots down the field…And a fair amount of screens that will ask OL to pull outside & create running lanes.
I would bet the 2024 Bucs O performs better than 2023…Given what Coen did with UK’s personnel in 2021 was miraculous.. (MASSIVE improvements led to a 10win season in Lexington – which is not very common!!).
If not for a very inefficient QB (coming back from a one-off pectoral muscle surgery & recovery to his throwing side arm/chest)…& NUMEROUS drops from SOPH slumping WR’s…Coen’s 2023 OFF at UK could have been much much better. (It still created a ton of explosive plays!)
I have no worries about the new OL coach, who’s well versed in all aspects of the McVay style offensive system that will be deployed by Coen. Liam would not have brought him with him to Tampa, unless he had total faith in his coaching ability.
Have a little faith, my friends!
February 9th, 2024 at 10:52 am
Wirfs played this year on a high ankle sprain. He did pretty well at it too. And it was his first year at LT. Arrow definitely up with him next year as well as Goedeke.
February 9th, 2024 at 10:53 am
Luke was phenomenal at RT. With another offseason and year of experience, he and Wirfs will dominate in 2024. Best pair of OT in the league.
Just need upgrades at C and LG. We’ll get one in FA and another in the Draft.
February 9th, 2024 at 10:59 am
There is absolutely no reason for Goedeke’s play to slip regardless of who coaches him. Goedeke isn’t going to suddenly forget how to block no matter who his position coach is. Coaches primarily draw up schemes and game plans. Players play.
February 9th, 2024 at 11:13 am
“””Just need upgrades at C and LG. “””
Aint that the truth!
February 9th, 2024 at 11:28 am
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“Have a little faith, my friends!”
Amen brother! Can I get a witness? Faith is not plentiful amongst many posters here. I put the Traskers in a totally different category. They have faith…in their guy. That’s fine. I do not agree, although I’m not saying someday Trask may emerge here or somewhere else…at least they’re simply rooting for their guy.
February 9th, 2024 at 12:09 pm
Having a new offensive line coach has to be an improvement over the Line coaches we had in 2023. Last in running Baker running and dodging for much of the season.
Liam Coen had a good running game in college, so I anticipate an improved running game which could have the Bucs a Super Bowl contender in 2024.
February 9th, 2024 at 12:14 pm
“Success” is a relative term in this case. Goedonkey was an all pro matador in 2022 and probably convinced Brady to retire at the end of the season. He’s still not even to Demar Dotson standards. Basically, the dude sucked less in 2023. Hope JL is looking for an upgrade.
February 9th, 2024 at 12:32 pm
We’ve sucked in the run game since those 2 have gotten here it really can’t get much worse
February 9th, 2024 at 1:26 pm
I think Goedeke would make a pro bowl RG. I would draft either a RT, or C in the 1st round. Then a LT (move him to LG) in 2nd or 3rd round.
If Tyler Guyton is available at 26, I’d draft him and move Goedeke to RG. If Graham Barton is available in the 2nd round, I’d draft him and let Mauch and Hainsey battle it out at C.
Then depending on what’s available in rounds 2 or 3, I’d move Mauch to C or LG (it’s his natural side).
February 9th, 2024 at 3:07 pm
Well Luke, for whatever reason, did not blick and was a spectator watching Hutchison run unipeded and smash Baker in the Lions game was pathetic to watch. Luke what the heck bro,. Yeah I like Luke, but lets be real. He had a few like that, and they were drive killers. No, Luke has some serious room to grow.
February 9th, 2024 at 4:36 pm
Rookie player contracts are 4 years for a reason. Takes time to adjust to the pros. Some won’t… and some will. Luke improved this year.
February 9th, 2024 at 6:47 pm
Wirfs will be a hall of fame left tackle. He’s already a top-5 left tackle and it was year 1
February 10th, 2024 at 5:17 am
Not worried about Goedeke at all Joe.
Coming out of last year the way he did this season I would say he has all he needs. Mental toughness is a thing!
Go Glass Eater!
Go Bucs!
February 11th, 2024 at 1:57 am
Wirfs was a pro bowl LT Joe wtf are you talking about. The move to LT will get him more money and is a more important position on this football team. Wirfs strings together a few more pro bowl seasons and he’s a lock for the hall of fame. Keep in mind this was his first year at the position, he will only get better.