Trying To Push Todd Bowles Out The Door
January 29th, 2024
Already.
Joe is guessing when Bucs coach Todd Bowles coached the Jets, he really p!ssed off a lot of New York-based national sports stenographers.
It really does feel like some folks truly are trying to shove Bowles out the door of One Buc Palace. With the memories of the Bucs nearly pulling off a road upset of the Lions a week ago in the divisional round still vivid, Chad Graff, who covers the Patriots for The Athletic, is already penciling in Bill Belicheat as as Bucs head coach — in 2025.
Bowles just became the first Bucs coach in franchise history to win consecutive division titles and Graff has him on thin ice. Seriously.
Graff typed a piece about where Belicheat could land after taking a year off from coaching. And sure enough, Graff thinks Bowles is on the hot seat in January 2024 for the 2024 season, a coach who just won consecutive division crowns.
After the season Bowles and the Bucs just had, “this Joe” has to believe the Bucs and Bowles would have to really blow chunks in 2024 for Bowles to be in trouble. You know, like four wins or less.
(The other Joe thinks Bowles will need at least eight wins to stick around for 2025.)
Yes, there could be a bunch of changes for the 2024 Bucs. Who knows if Lavonte David returns? Who knows if Mike Evans will come back? Shoot, nobody’s even sure about Baker Mayfield.
So Joe guesses Bowles will have his work cut out for him. But to suggest Bowles is on thin ice less than eight months before the season kicks off seems a bit irresponsible.
Either that, or Graff can’t wait to dance on Bowles’ coaching grave.
January 29th, 2024 at 12:08 am
What team would trade their HC for Bowels? most likely, NO ONE!
If the Bucs fired TB this season, would he be highly sought after? DOUBTFUL!
TB benefited from Many circumstances that padded his situation but if any of those circumstance were different, you would see Bowel’s team don’t even measure up to winning teams… Why? poorly coached…
January 29th, 2024 at 12:10 am
Anything less than 10 wins and Bowles is done. They’re looking for improvement.
But frankly, I don’t think Belichick is going to coach again. Why would you blow up an organization to let an authoritarian run it for at best 2-3 years… and this guy hasn’t done anything since Brady left. I just don’t see it for an organization that has attempted to maintain continuity. I really think Belichick’s time is over. He’s not going to win anything or develop another long term legacy with another team. I’m not surprised that the Falcons passed.
January 29th, 2024 at 12:12 am
Bowles has had his share of brilliant defensive games forsure. With that said, he’s also pissed away more. If Bolwes is gonna stick around. He needs to build a dominant defense that can hold opponents to under 17 points per game.
His Def MUST be the star of the show. Like Dungy’s was. And FULLY COMMIT
to his philosophy of football. If not, I agree, he’ll definitely be on the hot seat.
Let’s be honest EVERYONE thought during that 7 game stretch He was a goner. Let’s not Crown him the next Billycheat.
January 29th, 2024 at 12:39 am
He should have been fired already. And he will get fired midseason next year.
January 29th, 2024 at 12:59 am
SMOKE SEASON!!! I don’t have enough $ to buy any of these rumors yet.
January 29th, 2024 at 1:07 am
Come on Joe! Please give us a small break in the media nonsense.
I would rather listen to the local 7-Eleven clerks talk football! And they only speak Thai!
Go Bucs!
January 29th, 2024 at 1:09 am
Graff? Lol
Graff’ falls short in comparison to the relentless critiques from our influential bloggers and vloggers in Hillsborough County. Let’s go back to the beginning of the last season. These discerning observers have meticulously dissected every single decision made by Head Coach Todd Bowles.
Whether it was the strategic appointment of the offensive coordinator, the emphasis on a defense-heavy draft, the high-stakes quarterback competition, or the fatalistic review of our first preseason game, these critics have spared no detail in their assessments.
They seem to churn out seven negative articles for every positive one, fueling the frenzy of criticism
January 29th, 2024 at 1:16 am
They even went as far as scrutinizing the man for making a change in kickers, for goodness’ sake. Now, they’re downright pissed because the man came out on top against all the damn odds.
So all that precious content of picking one of the top, if not the TOP QB in draft, is out the window. Lol
January 29th, 2024 at 1:19 am
●Is it Bowles fault Suh or JPP really were never replaced and Shaq went down with a torn achilles never returning to form
●how about Jensen’s injury and the Oline struggles to open up running lanes contributing to the team having the worst run game in the league
●Licht decided the team would be fine with Rachaad White even though all he is a receiver playing RB
●the CBs definitely showed they are over paid and injury prone so maybe that really is Bowles fault
●it’s clear to me Bowles made the best out of what he’s been dealt
January 29th, 2024 at 1:22 am
What’s up LUV!?
January 29th, 2024 at 1:27 am
SB
Sup Bredren? Everything good with you and the fam?
January 29th, 2024 at 1:36 am
Let’s just hope he can pic another OC that can keep the growth of the Offense in a steady trajectory upward
January 29th, 2024 at 2:29 am
It’s a team sport.
Bowles gets an F grade for most things that are visibly on the HC (timeouts, 4th downs, etc) tinted by the glasses of him already being a failure in NY, the bad taste of Brady’s last season, and the ugly midseason skid of this year that’d be fatal in other divisions. The Saints game.
The biggest feather in his cap is a bunch of guys in contract years lead by Baker never quit on the team. (Aside from Devin, the one he’s closest to)
Add in the OC carousel of defensive HCs.. there’s not much going for Bowles long term.
I’d still absolutely take Bowles over Belichick.
January 29th, 2024 at 4:04 am
Well he stays around next year and we go 5-12 or 4-13. He gets fiired and we get a coach that drafts his QB.. However our GM needs to start doing something to besides putting us in the hole Cap wise!!
January 29th, 2024 at 4:45 am
Aahh yes, stroke the negativity. Since Bowles’ popularity rating only runs about 20-25% (my guess), small wonder that most comments are negative. Far too many unsolved ‘issues’ at this point to even venture a guess what our 2024 team will look like, much less what our 2024 record will be.
The only thing any of us AT THIS POINT know is (1) who’s currently under contract for 2024; and (2) who our free agents are. Just about everything else is up for grabs, including this coaching staff.
Do like your bottom line though Joe … ‘So Joe guesses Bowles will have his work cut out for him’. Which begs the question: ‘Have the Glazers fully endorsed Todd Bowles as their HC for 2024 YET?’
January 29th, 2024 at 4:51 am
But …but… but he is a defense Guru, that knows when to quit and pull the
plug ,while saving his time outs,like a small child saving their pennies .
Besides,there is always , the run up the gut, to save a game.
JMO
January 29th, 2024 at 5:38 am
Question: If the Buccaneers were looking for a Head Coach would Bowles have EVER even been a candidate without Arians pushing him in? NO
Resume:
Jets 24-40
100% Blew Divisional Round as DC vs Rams, let Cupp run wild. Arians covered for him.
Took one of the BEST offenses in the NFL and Trashed it.
Ruined Brady’s last year.
Was hoping for Bowles firing and Canalas to be our head coach this year. Above average DC, HORRIBLE HC.
January 29th, 2024 at 6:13 am
Of course, Bowles is on the hot seat for next year. So is Sarah on in Philadelphia. So is McCarthy in Dallas. Two years ago, nobody thought Vrabel or Belichick was ever going to get pushed out the door. Stop acting like any of this is a surprise.
It’s not like Bowles ripped it up this year. He had a long patch of bad performances. Sure, he got hot at the end and got them to the second round of the playoffs. That counts for something. That’s why he’s coming back. But if he comes back next year and misses the playoffs and has a sub 500 team with all of the guys that need to be signed having been signed, then yes, he will be out the door.
January 29th, 2024 at 6:19 am
If he stays he has to crush it next year and the chances of that are slim given the salary cap. He has the same problem he did last year…who wants to sign up for OC when it looks like a one and done job? It’s difficult to recruit a OC and his staff when the job looks like it’s a quick turn. Couple that with the team having bloated salaries and no means to sign all the free agents everybody wants, they really should start the rebuild. I can’t believe Todd would want to be HC if there’s no Baker, Evans, Barrett, White, etc. Maybe Licht and Co can let Todd know they are purging salaries and he’ll agree to quit.
January 29th, 2024 at 6:41 am
Why the F hasn’t Bowles and Licht hired an OC yet?
January 29th, 2024 at 6:54 am
Bowles’ words, not Joe’s — “prolonging the obvious.”
January 29th, 2024 at 6:58 am
Although we pulled of a playoff win it’s hard to overlook how this team has looked throughout the season. Specifically on defense I expected us at this point to have that unit to be a true strength and at times it cost us entire games and was a total liability. And I understand the cap restraints but I don’t know if Bowles can use that as an excuse for the defense because we put considerable high end draft choices and other resources throughout his Defense and it’s the same scheme we have been running for years. To have the unit look as weak at times as it did is very concerning.
January 29th, 2024 at 7:05 am
Lots of very dumb people want Bowles fired. Some of the dumbest humans who walk among us
January 29th, 2024 at 7:07 am
didn’t see Dan Campbell and the Lions prolonging the obvious
January 29th, 2024 at 7:17 am
I get why the Glazers would change their tone on Bowles after getting them that home game wildcard $$$… But do the Joes get a cut? How did the tone of every article go from cautious or critical to “our HC/OC were great, just the best and these darn fools dont get it!
January 29th, 2024 at 7:42 am
Yes, back to back division titles and a 2 year regular season record of 17-17.
The definition of a “C” (-) grade head coach.
Winning the NFC South the last 2 years is tantamount to being the smartest kid on the short bus.
January 29th, 2024 at 7:43 am
Good point KindaHazy.
January 29th, 2024 at 8:07 am
.500 redord. And he quit in a playoff game. Let’s lock him up for 5 more years. Let’s not prolong the obvious.
January 29th, 2024 at 8:11 am
If the Bucs were going to get rid of Bowles, I’d much rather see them go after Pete Carroll than the overrated grumpus from New England.
January 29th, 2024 at 8:19 am
Bowles is cool!
January 29th, 2024 at 8:29 am
BUCS HAVE TO KEEP BOWLES
The Bucs cannot fire Bowles after winning the NFCSx2 and a playoff game. No legit coach would come to work for the franchise.
BUCS SHOULD KEEP BOWLES
He won the NFCSx2 with $80M in dead cap. He’s earned another year.
January 29th, 2024 at 8:40 am
He did an admirable job this season, but so did Tony Dungy in 2001. Time to upgrade and get our offensive scheme.
January 29th, 2024 at 8:55 am
As bad as the NFC South is they’ve still won it two years in a row. Then reward for winning your division is to get a 1st place schedule, which they’ve managed through the last two years. If Bowles hadn’t won the division, he might have a better record of course he might not have a job if he didn’t. The classic catch-22.
January 29th, 2024 at 9:02 am
Next season will tell a lot
The OC I believe was the difference
January 29th, 2024 at 9:05 am
Belichick would want too much personnel control, and Bowles is on a hotseat next year but Licht is definitely not.
January 29th, 2024 at 9:53 am
Joe, that’s not ridiculous. I hear the division titles. That’s all well and good. But they had horrrrrible records both years. And now? Breaking in a new OC? (Let’s assume he has a good year…then that guy moves on to be a HC? What are we doing here?)
He’s absolutely on thin ice next year. Because frankly, he shouldn’t have been hired to be the HC in the first place. And everyone is looking at the current ‘treading water’ situation asking themselves…how does this team get over the hump? Answer: they can’t as currently constructed
January 29th, 2024 at 10:00 am
Season of smoke and liars.
January 29th, 2024 at 11:05 am
Relax, Belechik isn’t coming here unless the Bucs agree to give him total control and that I don’t think would happen. Licht has done a really good job with the draft as of late and Belichik has sucked at the draft. I know the Patriots have a scouting department but he would constantly override them. So why does anyone think he would come here?
January 29th, 2024 at 1:13 pm
Licht and the Glazers see what objective fans see. Unless you’re in the oralbucfan snowflake camp where a losing culture is acceptable and possibly preferred, it’s clear that Bowles is a career losing head coach, and is in fact 18-19 with the Bucs.
Bowles = Loser
January 29th, 2024 at 1:23 pm
18-19
January 29th, 2024 at 1:23 pm
Bowles should of been fired with leftwich. He’s a good DC but a horrible head coach. Just look at the timeout he didn’t take against the lions. Or how many times we kept all of our timeouts. Or how many red flags he DIDN’T throw. Canales and Baker kept us in games and one is gone with the other half out the door. We should of offered the job to Dave. Hes playing to win, bowles plays not to lose, which in turn we usually lose. The game has passed by belicheat, we don’t want or need him. But bowles doesn’t attract players(offensively). Canales will. And we missed our chance. I hope I’m wrong for our teams sake, but we aren’t winning anything big with bowles at the helm……. Make him WALK THE PLANK
January 29th, 2024 at 2:40 pm
I want Bowles to step down to DC
January 29th, 2024 at 3:22 pm
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January 29th, 2024 at 12:39 am
He should have been fired already. And he will get fired midseason next year.
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Want to bet on that? Didn’t think so
January 29th, 2024 at 4:52 pm
Thanks Mayfield ,bucs and Bowles for pulling off a nfc soth div. Title,regardless that it was the weakest div. In the nfl.getting In the playoffs and winning the wildcard spot game.but,the entire team lacked discipline which reflects on the coaching,watching players not giving 100% especially when they fall short 1 yard for 1st downs all the time showed their lack of determination to go the extra yard,dropping all kinds of passes,running east west instead of immediately running north.slow moving running backs.lack of blocking and tackling, getting constantly burned for big plays on defense.lets just say we lacked leadership. Discipline, dedication,devotion.bowles makes a good assistant coach.billiachek would bring discipline leadershio to the bucs. Lots of players need replaced.
January 29th, 2024 at 7:25 pm
There’s a reason that Belichick has not gotten a head coaching job thus far and that’s cause he wants to much power and total control of which ever team that decides to hire him! I’m not saying he’s not a great coach! I’m just saying a team that wants him has to have a lot of faith in him that he can lead them and create a dynasty out of which ever organization that hires him! That’s saying a lot considering he turned New England in to a dynasty for years but after all is said and done look at the down fall and the shape the Patriots organization is in now! I’m not saying he can’t win and do what he has done in New England for years in Tampa for years to come! I’m just saying if that’s the route Tampa wants to take then they need to get him while he is available and start building towards the future and hope that he can do for the Bucs what he done for the Pats for all those years but he has to come in and prove that he is as good as his resume says he is and that this past season was just a blemish due to a young team and a New England organization in the middle of a rebuild and a decision to start from scratch by cleaning house and not a reflection of what Belichick has to offer the organization!
January 30th, 2024 at 8:29 am
I think they should have left him on the tarmac in Houston
January 30th, 2024 at 9:51 am
No Bill coming to Tampa Bay. Wonder if Licht didn’t really whiff on 3 OC candidates, instead gather the nerve to dump Bowels, then let new HC pick their OC? When you look at TBs body of work, he is not the future for this team. But Mr. GM, get the nerve up quick. The clock is ticking.
January 30th, 2024 at 7:04 pm
Hey!!!!!! Chunks is my dog!