Bucs “Didn’t Show Much Interest” In Moving Up
April 24th, 2023
Trade scuttlebutt.
If you believe the folks pushing the notion that the Bucs will trade up for banana-peel-eating quarterback Will Levis, a well-plugged-in NFL insider suggests you should rethink that.
Albert Breer of SI.com is one of the best as far as knowing the pulse of nearly every team. He really does his digging and Joe knows who he speaks with in Tampa.
So in his weekly Monday morning work on SI.com, Breer noted he is fully aware at least one team picking ahead of the Bucs called Tampa Bay to work out parameters of a trade down.
The response from One Buc Palace was lukewarm, Breer typed.
What you need to know: I’ve heard rumors the Buccaneers would make a move up for a quarterback. I’m not buying it. For one, I think the staff there is excited to see what they can do with Baker Mayfield and Kyle Trask. For another, I know when another team called them about moving down, with the Bucs potentially coming up, Tampa Bay didn’t show much interest in doing it.
If anything, given the batting average of teams selecting at No. 19 over the past decade, the Bucs seem more likely to trade out of the first round perhaps, pick up a bunch of picks, and start rebuilding — eeeerrrr — reloading the foundation of the roster.
Besides, is it worth burning draft picks for guys like Anthony Richardson and Levis? Really?
Better to stockpile talent if you can find a desperate team wanting to trade up.
April 24th, 2023 at 10:59 am
I am dead set against trading up as well, unless you see a guy at 14 that is a top 5 on your board, then maybe.
April 24th, 2023 at 11:00 am
Because it is time to bite the bullet and once again, transform the stadium into the den of depression for a few years.
April 24th, 2023 at 11:07 am
That’s because it wouldn’t make sense to move up in round 1, but round 2-4? 100% for it
April 24th, 2023 at 11:10 am
Trade down….not up….>TBBF loves picks….lots of picks……..and we need….OT, S, TE, Edge, CB, RB…..perhaps a #4 WR who can return…..developmental QB like Stetson Bennett…..
But, we don’t need a punter.
April 24th, 2023 at 11:12 am
I can only see moving up for a tackle
April 24th, 2023 at 11:27 am
What’s the most important position in the game?? QB…
Does Baker & Trashcan = a top 10 NFL QB room…I don’t think so & doubt many do!!!
So Yes, the FO should be willing to use draft capital (& Devon White) as trade bait to go get the one the FO believes can be the QB1 of the present/future.
If “their guy” slides within striking distance…The FO should be willing to make a move to go get that guy!
April 24th, 2023 at 11:32 am
We need more quality players not less, and giving up picks and rolling the dice on one of the QBs this year just makes no sense. It seems crazy that Levis might actually be going at #2 with his fairly unimpressive numbers.
April 24th, 2023 at 11:35 am
Some would trade up for a crapshoot. We have enough crap. Draft OL trench where good RBs and QBs are made.
April 24th, 2023 at 11:38 am
I definitely agree it is best to trade back if the Bucs can’t get good value or the player they want at 19. I would love to see the Bucs pick up some extra day 2 picks. Darnell Washington from Georgia has my interest, but not in the first found. I didn’t appreciate the value of a really good blocking tight end until Gronk left the building. We missed him last year. Picking up additional day 2 picks would allow us to fill a bunch of needs (e.g.. offensive and defensive lines, running back, TE).
April 24th, 2023 at 11:38 am
Good!
Even it’s with ditching horsey boy
I think trading players on draft day will pick up steam and become more and more common.
I’d trade down along with trading DW for more picks this and next year.
April 24th, 2023 at 11:41 am
I wouldn’t mind ending up with this guy, YouTube search his name
Great story and character
Cody Mauch
OG
April 24th, 2023 at 11:44 am
I kind of wonder which team asked to move back to 19th? The Seahawks, Lions, Eagles, and Texans all have double 1st round selections. 3 of those 4 teams pick before us and aren’t in dire need of a QB so it could be Houston looking to move back from their 2nd pick at 12th overall to try and get some choice day 2/3 selections in return. Hell, only 3 of the 10 teams at the top of the draft have a legit *need* for a QB, so I could see the Cardinals, Raiders, Bears, or Falcons being the team that asked if JL wanted to move up in place of them moving back.
April 24th, 2023 at 11:51 am
What Insignificant Reader said.
April 24th, 2023 at 11:52 am
Some mock drafts have the Bucs picking Broderick Jones at 19, so I would guess the picks could get a great OT if they just stayed at 19.
April 24th, 2023 at 11:54 am
Def NOT for trading up, and don’t understand the need to reach for a QB when many think next years class is going to be even deeper than this one. Prefer to see us add a vet minimum deal QB like Bridgewater or maybe a late rounder like Haener and have a legit QB competition for ’23.
April 24th, 2023 at 12:00 pm
The quarterbacks in next year’s draft are better prospects, roll with Traskerfield and beef up the roster elsewhere.
April 24th, 2023 at 12:09 pm
BA . People say that every year about the next year class is better so I don’t buy it. We don’t know how good those quarterbacks are going to be this year in college. But I don’t want to tank that’s for losers!!
April 24th, 2023 at 12:11 pm
Hooker is the only guy I’m interested in but other than that BPA or trade down
April 24th, 2023 at 12:14 pm
I would think they would move up a couple for Robison or Henderson.
April 24th, 2023 at 12:23 pm
Trading out of the first round I’m not with that but trading down IN the first ok. When you end up with a JTS at the end of the first round or trading out of the first to get Logan hall. You water the draft down by getting a bunch of picks and yeah you can strike gold or end up with a bunch of average players instead of difference makers
April 24th, 2023 at 12:24 pm
Bert doesn’t say anything without an informed opinion. He does talk too much, but he’s a good reporter. If Licht falls in love, and the player falls, I think they stand pat. I despise trading out, but they have so many needs. Licht has been able to find quality talent in the middle rounds. Just promise you won’t draft Kyle Trask again.
April 24th, 2023 at 12:43 pm
I’m all for trading down…they have no 4th round pick.
Besides Licht usually does better in the later rounds.
Trade out of the first round entirely maybe pick up a 2nd and 4th rounder for 19?
I really have no idea what the 19 pick is worth.
April 24th, 2023 at 12:44 pm
Trade down a few positions~25th pick. Get an extra day 2 pick. That’s where the value is in this draft. There are a lot of 10 year starters.
April 24th, 2023 at 12:54 pm
I’d trade back for a couple of reasons. First, Licht does his best work in rounds 2-4. Why not get a couple more shots? Second, having Trask is the same as drafting one of the existing available QBs. I seem to remember people saying if Trask waited for last year he’d have been a 1st rounder. How would he stack up in this class?
April 24th, 2023 at 1:03 pm
If Zay Jones lasts until #19 which I doubt, some team will want to move up for him. Watching his tape he reminds me of Antonio Brown. The way he runs routes, competes for the ball A.B. is what I see. Hell, the Bucs should take him if he falls. I think Jones will turn out to be one of the best players to come out of this draft.
April 24th, 2023 at 1:08 pm
Devin White & Mike Evans
Curious if either will be traded during the draft. Both have value. Bucs need to fill a lot of holes.
White is available but for what price? I say a 2nd gets it done.
Evans probably isn’t going to get traded but if you’re going to make a move, this would be the year to do it. A 2nd and a good young player gets it done.
April 24th, 2023 at 1:21 pm
Like the Bucs would trade up now not knowing what the landscape will look like.
April 24th, 2023 at 1:23 pm
Trade down, not up!
In any draft there are about 10-12 top “can’t miss” prospects then another 40-50 with similar chance of success. I’d rather have 3 picks from the 2nd group than 2 picks.
April 24th, 2023 at 1:55 pm
Jason’s got this. Either a very good player at 19, a trade down, but certainly not a trade up, especially not for Will Levis. And since that’s what Dumknik would do, all the more reason not to do it.
April 24th, 2023 at 1:59 pm
TRADE UP TO THE CARDINALS OR TEXANS PICK AT 2 OR 3- PICK ANTHONY RICHARDSON ( DAVE CANALES ) CAN MAKE A PRO BOWLER OUT OF HIM IN ONE-TWO SEASONS TOPS !..WE NEED A SPECIAL ATHLETE AT THE QUARTERBACK POSITION ! ( AND HE’S ONLY 20 YEARS OLD ! ! ! ) WHY RISK YOUR 1ST ROUND PICK ON ANYTHING LESS THAN THE MOST TALENTED QUARTERBACK TO COME OUT OF THE DRAFT SINCE PATRICK MAHOMES ! ! !…JASON LIGHT WORK YOUR MAGIC, MAKE IT HAPPEN !..YOU WON’T BE SORRY..IN FACT, YOU’LL BE LABELED A GENIUS ! ! !
April 24th, 2023 at 2:20 pm
SB~LV yes Cody Mauch is legit. Love to see the Bucs draft him.
April 24th, 2023 at 2:21 pm
I think TOMMY is secretly a Saints fan coming here to spread disinfo.
April 24th, 2023 at 2:22 pm
We will find out soon what the Bucs do. I’d be very very surprised if they trade up this year! I’m hoping for another great OT to pair with Wirfs!
April 24th, 2023 at 2:24 pm
Trade back not up (If it makes sense)….
I usually think it’s best to stay the best player available but this year we’re actually in a situation where we may have to draft for needs; we definitely have a few holes to fill…
April 24th, 2023 at 2:26 pm
Can’t go wrong with best player at DT, OLB/DE, OT, and yeah, maybe Bijan!
April 24th, 2023 at 2:33 pm
Houston probably wanted a trade to get DW for their 12
April 24th, 2023 at 2:37 pm
I actually agree with Tommy! If Canales can make Geno smith almost a pro bowler, imagine what he could do with someone with real talent, like AR15.
April 24th, 2023 at 3:03 pm
Don’t trade up for one of these 50/50 quarterbacks. We all know the track record of 1’st round “franchise” QB’s. It’s really poor, so why would we risk losing a starting quality possibly multi year player who could help build this team. Who are we kidding anyway, we need a hell of a lot more than a QB to get to the dance.
April 24th, 2023 at 3:03 pm
AtlBuc Says:
April 24th, 2023 at 2:33 pm
Houston probably wanted a trade to get DW for their 12
Straight up DW for their #12?!?
IN A HEARTBEAT!!!!!!!!
April 24th, 2023 at 3:17 pm
As usual I agree with TBBF. I too love as many picks as possible.
The one exception for me is Wright. He’s an NFL ready talent at a position of need. The more protection for our QB whomever he is, the better.
April 24th, 2023 at 3:23 pm
AtlBuc Says:
April 24th, 2023 at 2:37 pm
I actually agree with Tommy! If Canales can make Geno smith almost a pro bowler, imagine what he could do with someone with real talent, like AR15.
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That is a credential that Canales just does not own.
As an assistant to an assistant of an assistant, he had very little to do with Geno doing well last year.
And if, as someone else suggested, Trask had stayed at UF and waited for this draft to come out, we wouldn’t even know who AR-15 even was.
We need to try to be a little more realistic with our wish list.
And as for Canales’ credentials, as short as that list is, I hope he can surprise the league!
More likely though, he will build an offense in the mold that Bowles demands. That will mean that after the first three games, we will once again be the most predictable team in the league.
I got a baaaaad feeling about this!
April 24th, 2023 at 3:38 pm
Diva, #19 for their #12 ….and their 2nd….
hold that line….nothing less!
April 24th, 2023 at 3:41 pm
Then we are assured RT Darnell Wright!
April 24th, 2023 at 4:20 pm
Wright at #12
We use Houston’s pick (33) for TE Washington
Our 2nd (50) gets spent on LB Jack Campbell (might have to trade up some spots)
and then we go from there….
Achane
Mekhi Garner
Jayden Reed
Stetson Bennett
April 24th, 2023 at 4:41 pm
No, TOMMY. We’ve watched AR and he isn’t what you’re trying to sell.
April 24th, 2023 at 4:49 pm
Max your fantasy has become my fantasy.
Wait – that sounds creepy.
April 24th, 2023 at 4:52 pm
lol, its possible though
April 24th, 2023 at 4:53 pm
LUV told me I had a job to do and I couldnt let him down…
April 24th, 2023 at 5:04 pm
If the Bucs don’t plan on drafting a QB, I’d call the Jets and see what they want for Zack Wilson, and trade for him if he’s really cheap. His attitude in NY has been a big part of his issues, and in Tampa he’d be surrounded by MILFs which should make him quite happy. If you can get him for almost nothing, I’d certainly bring him in just to see if he’s a legit bust, or just a victim of circumstances.
April 24th, 2023 at 5:34 pm
Zach Wilson sucks. Really really sucks. Mac Jones would be way better.
I’d rather see what Logan Hall could do under center than Zatch Wilson. But never mind, it’s going to be hilarious in New York now that the hallucinating drama Queen takes his act to the Big Apple. Get the popcorn ready.
April 24th, 2023 at 6:37 pm
‘Tis the season for talk, talk, talk…
April 24th, 2023 at 6:59 pm
Goatfarmer – The guy was a #2 pick and has all the tools, and has been on an offense without a ton of talent (although probably more talent than most people think). Again, I’m talking a late round pick, like a 6th. Also, while he was bad, he was still better than Mayfield over the last two years.
Mayfield, QBR the last two years, 35.1, 24.5
Wilson, QB the last two years, 28.2, 36.5
Also, with Wilson at least his QBR has gone up, unlike Mayfield.
April 24th, 2023 at 7:04 pm
This is a 3 or 4 year project, 23 is already gone.
April 24th, 2023 at 10:33 pm
There may be only two players in this entire draft really worth trading up for.
One deal has already been signed and sealed the other would be Robinson.
No way we go there for Robison or any of the remaining QBs with all the other holes we have. Any scenario that has us trading up would be a reach and overdrafting a position of need.
Trading down is the best option for us this year.
April 25th, 2023 at 1:21 am
If you’re going to trade up, don’t do it for this class of QBs. I would rather they wait to see if a player they covet is dropping and then try something. Just like we did when we got Tristan Wirfs. Or move down makes more sense.
April 25th, 2023 at 2:52 am
Unless there is someone you are absolutely sold on. Trade down for more picks, unless Lord Licht has a JPP style fleecing in the works. This draft is a total crap shoot. Outside of 5 players, there is really no one I am sold we have to draft if available, but that may change after the next Ira Podcast. I’d rather have multiple 2nd-4th round picks if possible.