A Different Twist On The Tom Brady Effect

April 4th, 2023

“Bruh, that’s cold.”

Usually, the Tom Brady Effect refers to how Brady’s presence and work ethic raised the games of coaches, players, executives and literally everyone in the organization.

And Bucs officials say that Brady Effect will live on in various ways through future Tampa Bay seasons. But what if that’s nonsense?

NBC super insider Mike Florio, of ProFootballTalk.com, seems to think this year’s Brady Effect will be about players and coaches happy that he’s gone.

“What a mess of distractions last year with everything that was going on with Brady. And to be free from that, to be beyond that, I think there’s going to be a lot of [Bucs] who are relieved, and rejuvenated and recharged this year,” Florio told WDAE radio. “They’re not going to come out and say it, but I think they’re going to feel it, and I think that’s good for the Buccaneers.”

Yes, Florio sees the Bucs as a competitive team in 2023, and competitive in the NFC South means potential division winner.

Joe disagrees with Florio, mostly. Joe doesn’t think players are relieved that Brady is gone, but Joe does agree the offense will be revitalized with a fresh approach under new Buccaneers offensive coordinator Dave Canales.

That includes the coaching staff and especially Chris Godwin, who likely won’t be asked to block and play the slot as he much as he was in past years. Yeah, Godwin is a top-shelf blocker for a receiver, but all the snaps he spent going in motion and then taking on the trenches has to get old at some point.

45 Responses to “A Different Twist On The Tom Brady Effect”

  1. Dooley Says:

    I mean, when it gets to the point where reporters are asking Devin Whites’ opinion on Tom Bradys’ marital status, it can be looked at as a distraction.

  2. Max Vasher Says:

    Florio is a mindless windbag. I have no idea how he has lobbied himself into a football commentators position. His takes are usually baseless opinions that offer no new or relevant information.

  3. rrsrq Says:

    I think he may be on point. Yes, the team felt they could come back as long as Brady was back there, but the question is why they were n that position in the first place. They know that the offense could have and should have scored more points and it was not always play calling, sometime bad execution and a QB that could not create when the field got shorter (the defense knew that so they would make TB throw underneath)

  4. Statistically Insignificant Reader Says:

    Max Vasher… agree and also your take can be said about a lot of posters herein.

  5. Jack Sparrow Says:

    Yes the team will be relieved Brady is gone. They can go back to their lazy days of practice, nobody yelling at them to be on the right place at the right time, nobody pushing them to do their best…. the real Bucs’ life is back. …. SMH…..

  6. Dooley Says:

    “it was not always play calling, sometime bad execution and a QB that could not create when the field got shorter”

    THANK YOU!!!

    Yea, our struggles to execute anything last season was pitiful and all of our offensive numbers pretty much took a nose dive in 2022 compared to where they were the season prior. That’s the one aspect of the game people didn’t mind staying ignorant to and that’s the rate at which calls were carried out with some measure of success. Some fans wanted smoke, mirrors, “unpredictability” but watched this team struggle to convert on first, second, or third downs week after week.

    In the 4 seasons we watched this team carry BAs playbook, it’s wild that the worst season in the scheme came with the least amount of completions >20yds, the least amount of attemtps, the lowest red zone scoring percentage, and all that New England Patriotesque passing to the boundaries out of the backfield. Iirc, Rachaad White at Cleveland had something like 9 targets, caught at but the combined distanc had to travel was like -18 yards, meaning all those passes were just long hand offs. That wasn’t BLs doing, that was Tom

  7. Dooley Says:

    Here come the cultists lol

  8. SufferingSince76 Says:

    If they learned nothing else from Brady, they should have learned how to focus on being in the best shape, playing their hardest and playing the game until the last second.

  9. Bubby Says:

    It was clear for anyone to see that the dream was over in 2022. That was not the same commitment from TB12 and the coaches, players and fans all knew it.

  10. Goatfarmer Says:

    The Bloweszo Effect >>>>>> Brady Effect

  11. Jeff Says:

    Bucs look like a 6-7 win team. If they had a competent edge rusher they could win 8 games.

  12. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Nope…..they be relieved that Byron LefTwich be gone!!!

  13. robert Says:

    they say distraction…..

    I say excuse

  14. Mike Johnson Says:

    I’m happy Brady Finally Witnessed his skills eroding. He was an old man as far as football was concerned. And it really showed his last season. He looked worst than a backup. Thye man gave is 2 great seasons and a superbowl. And now, we shall pay the piper for our success. Its very possible, Buic Life might return to Tampa.

  15. Bucsfan13 Says:

    If people evaluation of the offense doesn’t include that the team had the worst rushing attack in the NFL, their opinion shouldn’t be taken seriously. If the bad play of the OL isn’t mentioned, you should be on the alert of some people who carry an agenda. I won’t mention any names, but there’s obvious people who have an Anti-Brady agenda. Most of these people’s evaluation lack any nuance. If you disagree with them, you’re considered a Brady “cultist.” I could turn around and label them as suffering from Brady Derangement Syndrome.

    Brady wasn’t the main problem with our offensive issues, but he also wasn’t the solution. We have to remember that he was 45, and could no longer carry an offense. He didn’t have much help, and as a result the offense suffered. He also didn’t get any help from an OC who couldn’t make adjustments. This is why Bowles wanted Canales. Bowles wanted a QB friendly offense. One that doesn’t expect its QB to be Superman every game in order for the team to win, which was a big problem last year.

    As far as distractions, they’re overrated. They’re professionals. I actually think Brady’s teammates sympathized with him. The man had a highly publicized divorce, and yet he came to work and did his job. Players have personal stuff going on all the time. We just don’t hear about it because they’re not superstars like Brady.

  16. Craig Says:

    I have to agree that only the OC can make this team enjoy the season; that and a QB that can get his system.

    If the QBs just go through the motions, the team will be tanking, whether anyone realizes it or not.

  17. Dooley Says:

    “I won’t mention any names, but there’s obvious people who have an Anti-Brady agenda. Most of these people’s evaluation lack any nuance. If you disagree with them, you’re considered a Brady “cultist.” I could turn around and label them as suffering from Brady Derangement Syndrome.”

    Every criticism of Brady on this site is met with some sort of pivot by other commenters to something else to absolve Brady of poor play as the QB of a middling offense that struggled to sustain drives, score points, and carry their weight in terms of executing a given play on any given down in any given game in 2022. It’s not Tom it’s his divorce. It’s not Tom it’s his shoulder. It’s not Tom it’s the run game. It’s not Tom it’s the OL, that pick wasn’t on Tom either it was Leftwich calling the play. We get it, to you Tom Brady is infallible so why believe what your eyes can prove, when your mind is mad up. We get it lol but some of us see/saw otherwise and how it effects the entirety of the game. Good job Bucfan13 for proving my point

  18. Rod Munch Says:

    Mike Florio, the king of dramaqueens, complaining about drama.

    What a fraud.

  19. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Says:

    I agree that Brady’s skills were on the decline last year.

  20. sasquatch Says:

    People can dismiss distractions… but it happened. Brady did not play as well. His family life fell apart. How can that not have an impact? Calling it an excuse is just an attempt to look like a hardass because, you know, that’s what hard men do, and you don’t wanna be a pu$$y right? Hahahaha… The tough-guy business usually means turning off your brain. Have fun with that.

    Dramas and bright lights do affect teams negatively. I’m sure most of the guys will enjoy a more normal, low-key environment.

  21. Goatfarmer Says:

    Hey Rod — try putting one of Florio’s babbles into your AI and entertain us!

    That thing is awesome.

  22. Buc king Says:

    Last yr the offense struggled mostly due to oline not being healthy.. which in turn allowed for no run game which allowed fir no balance which means teams tie their ears back and flood the pocket which means Brady gets flustered and throws before plays develop which means no splash plays.

    Losing Jensen to injury .. the poor play of Smith.. the rookies on the line getting smacked..no gronk to help block and to be a safety valve for Brady.. fournette playing horribly.. Godwin recovering..gage playing hurt..Mike n Brady for some reason look disconnected..julio was well julio hurt and useless.. scotty looked slow .. Brady looked dejected.. play call was vanilla..receiver weren’t creating space.. Redbzone was the dead zone.. play calling was unimaginative and repetitive.
    It won’t be hard to improve on what we seen last year from offense..
    Defense also had no identity it mostly play good 1 qt and as vea got tired they started playing like trash..white looked horrible n dline was yawns after Shaq went down.

  23. lambchop Says:

    Some people seem to forget how wonderful *sarcasm* our offense was in the red zone pre-Brady.

    Yes, Tom Brady likes to have an offense suit his strengths. What QB wouldn’t? Yes, last year was a debacle in large part to the distractions surrounding Brady.

    But, don’t for a second think that Brady, without the distractions, wouldn’t still do enough to win another Super Bowl with a good team around him. Can he carry his team to a SB win? He never really did that in his career. What he did do is understand match-ups and execute like no other QB.

    What’s Tom Brady’s biggest weakness? His inability to maneuver a broken pocket. But, he had the release that could mostly avoid those situations if players did their part.

  24. Smashsquatch Says:

    Not having an immobile & declining QB, coupled with a patchwork O-line, and a horrendous O-coordinator, will definitely have the Bucs feeling rejuvenated.

  25. CGB Spender Says:

    I just can’t wait to see this buccaneers team sink. How ungrateful can you be. Yall gonna learn

  26. Dart Says:

    The team will be relived because they would be able to plan their vacations in October.

  27. Duane Says:

    For all those who claim Brady’s skills declined last season, he still finished 3rd in the league amongst all quarterbacks in passing yards with 4,694, 9th in completion percentage, and threw only 9 INTs. He had no decent offensive line and no running game and his most effective receiver had retired.

    Tom Brady’s “decline” is better than most other top 10 quarterback’s best season ever.

  28. Duane Says:

    This is an unfalsifiable claim since no Bucs player will ever agree with it.

    Dumb subject for a post.

  29. Beej Says:

    All the opposing teams knew we could not run the ball, and they knew we could not hold a pass block for more than 2 seconds. Put those two things together and the playbook becomes very small

  30. Cobraboy Says:

    They will miss the player but not the drama and focus on one guy.

  31. HC Grover Says:

    Our problem is The Bowles Effect.

  32. NEfan Says:

    The haters are the cultists. Dooley, Crackwise, Oneilsuckyall, Mike Johnson etc. They are go the it’s a team win not a Brady win but when they loose it’s on Brady. Here is a little tid bit, 32 Bucs in rushing, 31 Texans, 30 Vikings, 29 Chrages 28 Jets, how did those teams do??? If you CANNOT RUN you CANNOT WIN!!! I don’t care if Mahomes is in Josh Allen’s body, it AIN’T happening. If you played this game you know this. It’s another high school.

  33. NEfan Says:

    It’s not HS.

  34. Bucsfan13 Says:

    Dooley just proved my point. Thank you so much!

  35. gp Says:

    Some people just can’t get it through their thick skulls…
    The grass is Not always greener on the other side!

  36. Bucsfan13 Says:

    Thank you, Beej! We could not run the ball at all. People always look at process over results. Derek Carr and Justin Herbert had similar stats to Brady this year. Yes, the Carr that everyone was salivating over.

    Canales and Bowles looked at this offense. They probably poured over the film. They saw an antiquated system that lacked any creativity. Our run schemes were dated, and we expected too much of the QB. From their statements, they obviously think the QB wasn’t the main issues of the stagnant offense. This is why they keep promoting a strong running attack. Listen to Canales and Bowles speak about the offense. Did Brady have his best season? No. He was an average QB, and that wasn’t enough this season. He could’ve been a good QB had the circumstances around him been better. Dooley is very good with straw man arguments.

    How come Leftwich still doesn’t have a job? Surely teams saw that the old washed up QB was holding him back. As Joe has pointed out many times, Leftwich’s offense was dead last in Arizona when he had compete reins. There was no BA with him.

  37. Infomeplease Says:

    Last season was a team losing effort. Yes, it took a combination of a whole lot of things for it to go so bad. Injures to key players, TB12 divorce, Bad coaching decisions, predictable play calling, poor execution of plays offense and defense, lack of timely adjustments, poor game planning, lack of pass rush, lack of pass protection. Bad game clock management. Lack of front office moves to correct glaring needs. A total team effort! Imo.

  38. Pelsbuc61 Says:

    Brady effect was obliterated by Bowles and Leftwich. The team was unprepared, lacked energy and motivation despite Brady’s best efforts.

  39. BucaneroJim Says:

    2020 & 2021 were like a TV sitcom or stage play that was wildly successful, then the third season fell short against all expectations, even with more famous actors added. Sometimes the chemistry just does not jell – no matter how hard the actors try.

    The muse spoke and success flowed – the muse disappeared and the actors could not find their marks on the stage.

  40. Oneilbuc Says:

    NEfakefan. The only quarterback you should be thinking about is Matt Jones you don’t belong here. And yes Brady was washed up last year I watched every game he didn’t want to take his anymore and I understand that. The defense was the main reason why we won 8 games. Your daddy is gone so why are you still here ??

  41. Oneilbuc Says:

    Brady couldn’t play without AB and Gronk and that’s just the truth. Without AB and Gronk Brady was trash without them get over it .

  42. TampabayDJ Says:

    Oneilbuc- You’re a complete idiot . You sound like a tard and maybe you shouldn’t be on this site. Blowhard. Go Bucs

  43. TampabayDJ Says:

    We’re lucky enough to have had the pleasure of having Brady as our QB for 3 GREAT years ! Nothing but love for the man . By the way , he was the leader in attemps, completions , and 3rd in passing yards ! He only threw 12 picks all year , same as the year before when he should have been MVP . Bunch of bandwagon fans who know nothing about football. Go Bucs

  44. NEfan Says:

    Oneilsuckyall, Brady won 4 SB’s without Gronk and only one with AB. Agreed he couldn’t take it anymore, he threw like 750 times to receivers Sent on blocking routes and at the bottom of the league in separation, most would have faked an injury to avoid the beating. Was it his best season? No but other than Bucs punter, whose was it? Bowles loses and a OC that has never called a play in the NFL is unlikely to be the Bucs savior. Will they run better? How can they not? If your expectations are a winning season, play the lottery, your odds maybe better. Hey for shats & giggles I’ll throw $100 on them to make the playoffs, the line is probably +2800. I’m all about donations.

  45. Old G bucs fan. Says:

    Wow.Maybe Florios wild guess will come true this time. Our defense will be good. We still have O line problems to iron out. Our running game is changing and we have no qb that can be called consistent. We have a new OC and questions still surround Bowles abilities as head coach. Bowles is a great human being,which is more importsnt and I like him. He hasnt been handed a great hand of cards,last year or with his time with the Jets. Lets see what he can do. He has my support.