Not (Yet) Filling Offensive Coordinator Opening Screws Up Everything Else

February 14th, 2023

Delay hurts.

As Joe has stated earlier, it’s two weeks to the combine!

So teams will show up and monitor college players like cattle trying to see if each player can play in their team’s system and scheme.

For the Bucs on offense, what scheme or system will the players be playing in? That’s still a mystery. The Bucs are not the lone team in this boat. And Albert Breer of types that a delay in knowing who your coordinator is can screw up the rest of the team’s combine prep.

The combine is also looming, two weeks from now. And you’d hope by then that all this coaching shuffling is over with. It used to be that by Senior Bowl week, things would be winding down. The idea that it wouldn’t be done by the time the NFL lands in Indy is nuts, even if the league really wants things to be more deliberate than they have been in the past.

By the time the combine starts, usually teams are done with their free agency meetings and their first set of draft meetings, and all of that is kind of tough to do if you aren’t sure what offense or defense you’re going to run in the fall.

Hopefully, the Bucs hire an offensive coordinator who looks at the talent he has and molds an offense around that talent. Joe hates it when otherwise smart men try to ram a square peg into a round hole. As Bill Belicheat is famous for saying, “Don’t tell me what a guy can’t do; tell me what he can do.”

Sadly, too many lesser coaches don’t know how to coach any other way than what they’ve done in the past. They’re inflexible.

Joe wishes more coaches would take the Marines motto to heart. “Improvise, adapt and overcome.”

If the the new offensive coordinator operates that way, it sure would help the front office.

48 Responses to “Not (Yet) Filling Offensive Coordinator Opening Screws Up Everything Else”

  1. Goatfarmer Says:

    Bowels of Toad. Inflexibility, inability to adjust, his strongest talents.

  2. Leopold Stotch Says:

    At this point, it wouldn’t surprise me if we promoted someone within to be OC. Who would be the best qualified to do so?

  3. CrackWise Says:

    Maybe Todd is planning on taking over the OC duties and promoting one of his guys to fill the vacant DC position that was never filled last season?

    YOU KNOW, cause thats what all the great coaches do these days. Pretty sure he was running the offense last season anyways.

    Just Saying.

    Also, if you want to think about it this way. It would make sense; he couldn’t be as bad as Leftnut was if you think about it that way.

  4. Hodad Says:

    Todd should’ve fired Lefty during the season. This way we would’ve known if someone already on staff could’ve stepped up to the plate. Now we look like we have no clue in who, or what we’re looking for. Just pick one already. Ya’ll getting fired next year anyway hopefully a new G.M. too.

  5. darengibo Says:

    At this point it feels like the firing of Lefty and several others were just a reactionary move and more of a virtue signal than an actual plan.

    But hey, even if Bucs struggle this year, I wouldn’t trade the past 3 seasons and the ring!

  6. SufferingSince76 Says:

    When you wait so long, you usually end up with something (someone) you are just settling for. Anyone is a step up from Leftwich, so get your arses in gear!

  7. SB~LV Says:

    OBP is Clusterduck !

  8. RagingBrisket Says:

    Bad look for a GM who already looks bad. This whole past year has reeked of incompetence, especially since the season mercifully crashed to a halt against Dallas.

  9. Roc Says:

    Who would want this job???

    No QB

    A terrible HC

  10. Casual Observer Says:

    Your headline should read “Not having a HC opening screws up everything else.”

  11. BucsfanFred Says:

    I think we’ll have an OC by the weekend.
    No matter how you slice it, this is a rebuild.

  12. BucU Says:

    God I hope all the home games are blacked out next season.

  13. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    No worry…..the best solution is to draft mostly defensive players….we will likely need a CB to replace Dean…..a LB to replace LVD……a DT to replace Hicks/Gholston……and maybe a S to replace Edwards/Ryan…..throw in an edge rusher with a late round RB & you’ve got your draft class….
    (Let BA & Licht pick the RB)

  14. SB~LV Says:

    Sell the team Glazer’s
    Thanks for the memories!

  15. Hail2dabucs Says:

    No one wants to be your OC Toad !!! Your a mediocre defensive coordinator that has no business being the head coach of this football team..the bucs should be moving back to the basement of the nfl until this organization does things the right way !

  16. mark2001 Says:

    I’m telling you, O’Neil is our guy. We just need to sign Jameis and I think he is in.

  17. mark2001 Says:

    So TBBF. Can we win a division without an Offense…with just a Defense, Special Teams and a Punter? Who thought we would be the grand experiment?

  18. Stebobucsfan Says:

    This OC search Is starting to really worry me. Last time it took the Bucs this long to make a hire they hired Gregg S. We all know how that went Something has to being going on at One Buc Place. I mean all of these QB coaches just waiting to get a OC job and we can’t sign 1

  19. Defense Rules Says:

    ‘Joe wishes more coaches would take the Marines motto to heart. “Improvise, adapt and overcome.”

    Nice touch Joe. Can never go wrong quoting the Marines. My favorite remains though ‘Lead, follow or get the he11 out of the way’.

    The worst thing we can do is pick the WRONG OC right now. Bucs desperately need someone who can do exactly as you said Joe … work with what we’ve got & not try to put ‘square pegs in round holes’. Our offense obviously needs a QB & yes, a TE, but we can do some damage with what’s left … under the right OC.

    TBBF nailed it, as usual. This has to be a defensive draft; far too many holes to fill with too little money to buy replacements or even re-sign many of our own. DT, CB, ILB, S & DE/OLB is a lot to expect in a draft class, but you never know how the chips might fall.

  20. GABucsFan Says:

    A great leader attracts great coaches. I’m afraid this hiring process speaks volumes about our head coach. Enticing someone to put their career on the line requires more than just money. The reset will be next year, 2023 will be painful.

  21. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Leopold Stotch Says
    “At this point, it wouldn’t surprise me if we promoted someone within to be OC. Who would be the best qualified to do so?”

    Clyde Christensen…who retired.

  22. Cobraboy Says:

    Why would anyone with any cred come to a team what a walking dead HC?

    I mean OC or FA.

    Of course, it does show this team is going to suck up the cap hits in a season, and start fresh in 2024 clean. With no Bowles.

    I approve ^^^this^^^ strategery.

    Watching a clown show can be as entertaining as a Lombardi contender…if you have a sense of humor and buy into the plan.

  23. darengibo Says:

    Tampabaybucfan Says:
    February 14th, 2023 at 7:19 am

    (Let BA & Licht pick the RB)

    Has that ever worked out in the past?

  24. Oddball Says:

    Put Leopold’s and TBBF’s ideas together and that might the solution we see.

  25. BA’s Red Pen Says:

    Marine motto?, lol pandering to your keyboard tuff guys again. Yawn.

  26. Stebobucsfan Says:

    Good point GAbucfan. I wanted to at least give Bowles thru next season to see what happens but maybe Bowles is the reason coaches don’t want to come here

  27. Duane Says:

    Interesting that so many assume nobody wants the OC job … yet, they’ve interviewed a double handful of candidates, so they must at least be willing to consider the job. We don’t know that any offers have been given and rejected, only that they are continuing to interview candidates.

    Whole lotta negativity here in these threads. It’s not clear that it’s all justified. Licht will manage the salary cap as he always has using contract restructurings, so we don’t necessarily lose all of our free agents, though we will lose at least a couple, as all teams do every year. Kyle Trask is an unknown quantity, but then so are all first year starting quarterbacks. All quarterbacks start out as unknowns, then eventually become knowns. And even knowns can surprise (see Geno Smith). And even unknowns can prove very capable (see Mr. Irrelevant of 2022 and the SF 49ers making the playoffs).

    Save the wailing and gnashing of teeth for when the actual results start to become known things.

  28. Marine Buc Says:

    I’m starting to think the Bucs will just hire the first candidate for OC that just says “yes”…

    Most of these coaches are going to meet Todd Bowles and say “No thank you” and I don’t blame them a bit.

    It wouldn’t surprise me if BA came out of retirement to bail his buddy out and call plays for the Bucs next season because no coach with a sound mind will want to take the job…


  29. Marine Buc Says:

    @ GABucsFan

    I agree 100%. This isn’t looking good…

    @ Cobra

    “Watching a clown show can be as entertaining as a Lombardi contender…if you have a sense of humor and buy into the plan.”

    I agree – I don’t think we have much of a choice. Buy the ticket take the ride…

    @ BA’s Red Pen

    You made bro?


  30. Marine Buc Says:

    @ BA’s Red Pen

    You mad bro?


    GD auto correct…

  31. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    LFG; the Yuc’s are back and have the keys to the basement mom; those 100 degree 1pm games will be alive and well at Ray Jay in 2023. Tickets will be all over the place if you want to see a star on another team. This has the feelings of the early 90s when the bucs were gawd awful. Licht has not built a continual contender and this year will show. As a gator fan I hope that Trask proves everyone wrong

  32. Bucs56 Says:

    All this stems from not firing Bowles. Nobody wants to work for a head coach on the hot seat.

  33. Oxycondoms Says:

    Its the perfect time to hire a female offensive coordinator. One who has experienced going up against different types of D would be ideal

  34. Pelsbuc61 Says:

    This is what happens when the Glazers signed off on the BA succession plan. He destroyed the future of this franchise in order to please his homies. The Peter principle personified. Bring in Mayfield on the cheap and pay the credit card in 2023.

  35. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    Oxy, is there an area around with multiple female OC’s that have experience of going up against the Big D’s that will be thrown at her in the NFL?

  36. mark2001 Says:

    Dusthty… is there an area around with multiple male OC’s that have experience of going up against the Big D’s that will be thrown at her in the NFL, that wants to be OC for the Bucs?

  37. Stebobucsfan Says:

    Duane that’s a good point also. I said the same thing last week about the OC job. If it was that bad why are so many doing interviews, even Todd Monkens. Maybe it’s money. Maybe Bowles is assembling his staff. Nonetheless there’s clearly something going on hear.

  38. Chris Says:

    Maybe her Byron back

  39. The Dave Says:

    Go get Eric Bienemy as the OC and HC-in-waiting. He’s available. Pay him a kings’ ransom, and promise him the throne if/when Bowles falls apart.

  40. Power of Pewter Says:

    OC candidates will interview even if they aren’t interested in the job, as they can use it as leverage in current position… ie: salary increase. Or it goes on the resume as an endorsement of sorts. I agree the Buc’s OC position isn’t a desirable one, the team will end up with the dregs when the music stops. As bad as Leftwich was, his replacement could very well be worse. Hang on, bumpy ride ahead.

  41. Tom Says:

    Yet more proof Todd Bowles is just bad. Incompetent.

  42. Bucamania Says:

    I heard several OC candidates asked if they could work from home.

  43. RMBUC585 Says:

    @Joe, WHY wouldn’t they roll with Harold Goodwin?

  44. captivajim Says:

    WHY , WHY would any good offensive coach want this job ????? no QB, , poor O-line, salary cap problem and an arrogant, inflexible HC who can’t lead the mupets…

    Look at how many coaches bowles threw under the bus in 3 yrs with Jets , And he’s done it here ..

    Bucs will be lucky to win 5 games nxt yr .— bowles will fire OC staff again.

    then after 3 yrs of failure – bowles will finally be fired at the end of ’24 season…..

  45. Joe Says:

    @Joe, WHY wouldn’t they roll with Harold Goodwin?

    That’s a great question.

  46. The Anomaly Says:

    This is embarrassing…as a poster pointed out…Bowels should have at least ONE person that he could call up to come help him…ONE guy…he’s been in the NFL forever. Problem is…he sucks and no one wants to work with him.


  47. Mike S Says:

    The Dave I’m guessing that the wallet is light after giving 5 years to Bowles.

  48. Mike S Says:

    captivajim team ownership is forsaking the fans by not firing Bowles. They are signaling to us that winning isn’t the priority.