“I Know The Vision And I’ve Seen The Success”

February 18th, 2023

Not everyone sees Todd Bowles as Dead Coach Walking. Some see a beast of a leader whose methods succeeded on the grandest stage.

The Bucs’ defensive performance in the Super Bowl two years ago will no doubt go down as one of the greatest in history.

But after the Cooper Kupp playoff dagger 13 months ago, a lot of Bucs fans were perplexed by Bowles’ decision to blitz on the critical last-second play, and subsequently lost some respect for Bowles the defensive guru. Even love-filled Father Dungy took to Twitter in stunned disbelief.

(Joe always understood the all-out-blitz call, but damn did it prove to be ill-timed. Joe almost thinks some players were so surprised — and gassed — and weren’t ready to execute.)

Still, that was one play. And Bowles’ defensive players have intense respect for him. That was evidenced by veteran defensive tackle Will Gholston’s profound chatter on WDAE Radio last week.

“Coach Bowles is one of the coaches that I would run through the wall for knowing that the wall won’t fall down. And if he said, ‘Do it again.’ I would do it again,” Gholston said. “Because you can see in his preparation and detail, especially being a defensive coordinator, like you see his work ethic. Like I know his work ethic and it only drives me to work as hard or harder as a player because I know the vision and I’ve seen the success.”

Joe thinks Gholston voiced a key point. Those defensive players have seen Bowles work magic year after year on that side of the ball and they believe in him wholeheartedly.

One minor example would be the Bucs ranking seventh in the NFL in sacks last season with Shaq Barrett out with an injury before midseason. A better example would be the Bucs’ run of historically great run defense in 2019 and 2020, among others, in addition to exemplary development of several defensive backs.

Now Bowles just needs everyone on the same page as Gholston. Overall, the Bucs weren’t a physical team last season and didn’t look to have the “run-through-the-wall” mentality Gholston speaks of.


107 Responses to ““I Know The Vision And I’ve Seen The Success””

  1. NYbucsfan Says:

    Bowles Stinks!!!. The proof is in the pudding.

  2. Joe in Michigan Says:

    I love Gholston, Michigan is very proud to call him our son! 🙂

    I wonder how many of the Bowles haters were one-time Arians haters? Remember all of those clowns before the Bucs won a Super Bowl with Arians? I wonder how many changed their names from Realisto, etc. to something else?

  3. SKBucsFan Says:

    I guess I would sing the coaches praises if I were becoming a free agent in a few weeks too and I wanted to retire with the team I played my whole career.

    Don’t worry Wil. You don’t need to suck up… we want you back.

  4. Infomeplease Says:

    The defense appreciates Bowles more and plays harder than does the offense. This year we’ll see if they get on board!!

  5. cmurda Says:

    Bowles greatest success wasn’t even mentioned. How about shutting down the best QB in the game on the grandest stage of all at Ray Jay. He’s a great defensive coordinator. He’s also a terrible head coach. Nobody has seen the vision as Head Coach where he’s floundered miserably. It is what it is.

  6. K_bassuka Says:

    Preparation! Bowles defenses seem to be the only in football to have at least a couple of blown coverage plays regardless of the competition

  7. Infomeplease Says:

    Cmurda did you read the 2nd paragraph?

  8. Infomeplease Says:

    Or maybe it’s the first. Ha ha

  9. BFFL Says:

    Gholston just kissing butt trying to get another contract

  10. DungyDance Says:

    No one is doubting his defensive coaching skills, as Gholston also points out. His head coaching skills are another matter.

  11. Joe in Michigan Says:

    I’m sure all of you keyboard tough guys would say this to Big Will’s face. 🙄

  12. BucsFanSince1996 Says:

    It’s not fair to evaluate Bowles (as a head coach) based on the performance of a coaching staff he didn’t hire or players he didn’t choose. He couldn’t reasonably fire the OC in the middle of a season unless he had an upgrade that was already on the coaching staff. He couldn’t bring in an outside OC with a different system and playbook as the players won’t be able to learn it all fast enough. And he was limited in being able to bring in new players given the salary cap situation.

    He didn’t choose ANY of the coaches or players on the offensive side, and it was the offense that was horrific this season.

  13. Defense Rules Says:

    ‘Joe almost thinks some players were so surprised — and gassed — and weren’t ready to execute.’

    That’s quite obvious if you watch the film of that play with an open mind. LVD looked to be literally standing around when the play kicked off (so were several others). It seems apparent that not everyone on the field had the proper play call. That’s where quality FIELD LEADERSHIP makes all the difference. It was non-existent on that play IMO.

  14. View from 132 Says:

    Bowles is a top 5 DC. Maybe top 10. He knows defense. He should still be the DC here. But that’s not his job title.

  15. WillieG Says:

    I wanted Bowles to be the next HC and was thrilled when he took over but last season made me realize he is not the man for the job. He destroyed a championship offense trying to make his players adapt to his outdated run, run, run offense. He played for OT instead of trying to win. He didn’t try to score at the end of the first half, choosing to take a knee instead. He was way too cautious (scared) on offense. He was/is EVERYTHING I hate in a head coach.

    I enjoyed two TWO! games last year. The rest were boring displays of old school garbage. That’s hard to take after watching fun and exciting football for a couple of years. Very hard to take. I probably won’t watch many games this year. My dad and I will give them a chance, like we always do, but on Sundays next season, we will probably just watch one of the playoff games or Super Bowls we have on our DVRs.

  16. NEfan Says:

    DR, BRAVO finally seeing the light. Gholston clearly doesn’t want to move. Bowles preparation for the Rams PO game was on his resume, not the game. Greatest game ever?? Playing a SB against a mobile QB with turf toe, decimated Oline and Son/assistant coach of Andy Reid arrested that week on a DUI & vehicular assault on a 5 yr old girl. Other than that great game plan. That 2020 D in the SB was motivated and out talented the oline. This man SCREAMS LOSER!!!

  17. NEfan Says:

    Oh, how was his preparation for Dallas PO game???

  18. gp Says:

    IMO, Bowles has proven himself a capable, if not excellent DC. Not so much as a HC though. Not yet anyways. He has this year and possibly another to prove he can do it. If he doesn’t succeed here though, I would guess he’ll not get another chance at it.
    Good luck Todd, I’d much rather root for a winning team!.

  19. HC Grover Says:

    Here we go with the hype. All lousy teams do it before the season. Soon The New Yucs will be claiming they are Super Bowles Bound. LOL

  20. Buc4evr Says:

    Great DC, but after last season it is apparent that he doesn’t know how to motivate players. Also, he had no control of Leftwich. No amount of running thru wall talk is going to change the guy. He will be gone after next season.

  21. Couch Fan Says:

    Unfortunately we’ve seen him coach for a whole year now and if the team/defense “would run through a wall” for him, we didnt see a shred of evidence of that during this whole season. Nor did we see any attention to detail. And from what ive seen and heard they didnt have any of that when he coached the Jets.

    Worst Coach in Bucs history and he’ll be gone next season. Lovie 2.0 would be an insult to Lovie. And lovie was terrible.

  22. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Gholston & LVD are two older FAs who are lobbying for jobs next year….they both want to be paid and both want to stay Bucs…..so, I’m not surprised by their comments.
    Unfortunately, it’s time to move on from older, more expensive players. I love them both but….sorry guys….best of luck!!!

    We’ll need to draft a CB to replace Dean & a LB to replace LVD….also a DT to replace Hicks/Gholston…..

    Hope we signt RNR.

  23. BUCman Says:

    Sorry Joe but Bowles is dead man walking…..and deservingly so! He’s not Head coach material. He needs to understand his limitations and go back to being a defensive coordinator.

  24. ManzielMadness Says:

    @Couch Fan

    Have to disagree with you. Lovie had control over the final roster, decided to replace Darrelle Revis’ salary with Michael Johnson, Anthony Collins and EDS. But at least watching Mike Jenkins get roasted over and over again was entertaining! Who was his best FA signing? Sterling Moore? At least Bowles went 10-6 with the Jets with Ryan Fitzpatrick at QB. Lovie is the worst HC in Bucs history.

  25. stpetebucfan Says:

    Bowles is still head coach and the reaction…”The Sky is falling”….

    In the story, an acorn falls on Chicken Little’s head, and she takes it as a sign that the sky is falling and the world is coming to an end. She spreads the news—“The sky is falling! The sky is falling!”—and causes mass hysteria.

    Mass hysteria indeed! LMAO Again where is Rita Moreno when you need her?

    D.R. The writing is one the wall. I’ve had my run of Air Coryell offense now it’s your turn…back to Chuck Noll I guess. While I prefer offense to defense I can easily admire both. I just enjoy winning no matter how it’s accomplished.

  26. Couch Fan Says:


    Maybe you’re right. Just wait though, Bowles is going to add more to his already impressive Bucs resume after this next season. And I am sure you will agree with me then.

  27. Buc1987 Says:

    Beast of a leader?

    Yeah that’s got to be it!

    He’s a beast of a leader…..

    Hilarious on this site sometimes.

  28. DG060 Says:

    Good DC. Absolutely awful HC.

  29. Tye Says:

    Bowels is already marked as Terminated, but because of ‘social etiquette’ it is being postponed to a later time to keep the Bucs from being made out to be the bad guy!

    Bucs forced to sacrifice 2023 to get out of this losing situation so they can go and get them a winning HC!

  30. The Anomaly Says:


    Hilarious. Like this isn’t just player speak.

    Come on man. Bowels flat out stinks.

  31. Jeff Says:

    This is Clueless Todd’s last season. Let the new coach use the #1 pick on a QB in 2024. 2-15. Mark the tape.

  32. ManzielMadness Says:


    I agree with you that Todd Bowles will most likely be shown the door at the end of year. If you can’t win with Brady then who can you win with? Just couldn’t stand Lovie, he set our team back years.

  33. Goatfarmer Says:

    Rod Marinelli’s players loved him too. They were ready to run through walls for him also. He went 0-16 in 2008 and was a horrible coach, based on, you know, wins and results and such.

    On the grandest stages against anyone decent, Blowes sucks, defensively, offensively, and short bus team. Todd “Marinelli” Bowels.

  34. Defense Rules Says:

    NEfan … Apparently the concept of FIELD LEADERSHIP eludes you. I was talking about the player on the field who is supposed to pass the play call from the DC to other members of the defense (ie, the one wearing the ‘green dot’, presumably White?). It’s obvious when the play started that some defenders had the right call and others had no clue. If half the defense never gets the play call, the result will almost surely be catastrophic.

  35. sasquatch Says:

    Goatfarmer Says:
    February 18th, 2023 at 1:07 pm

    On the grandest stages against anyone decent, Blowes sucks, defensively, offensively, and short bus team. Todd “Marinelli” Bowels.

    Defensively, Bowles put together a historically dominant performance in SBLV.

  36. Stebobucsfan Says:

    Amen bucsfansince1996. I’ve been a Bucs fan since 1976 and we’ve had a lot worse see L Bennett, R Perkins lately Gregg S, L. Smith. I don’t understand why there’s so much Bowles bashing either. He was given someone coaches that coach for a whole different philosophy. Now if Bowles go 6-11 or anything under 10 and 7 this up coming season, then I understand.

  37. Redeemer Says:

    Are we taking about the same guy? The DC who blitzed Stafford over and over when it wasn’t working? Not working is being nice. They were getting torched. The chiefs had no line in that Superbowl. Giving Bowles credit for that is a little much. Listen, he’s a good DC. He’s not this generational mind though. He’s a bad head coach. Last year isn’t the only evidence. In NY, he fired 14 of the 18 coaches HE HIRED. Talk about blaming others for your failures.

  38. NEfan Says:

    DR, so it’s a coincidence the same communication issues happened on the fake punt against Cincy and the end of the Cleveland game. How is it possible the players ALL of which played multiple years under his direction, all of a sudden at the biggest point in the game crack under pressure including a 10 yr veteran with the green dot.

    Sorry dude not buying it. If he had at least a 500 winning record I’d give him the benefit of the doubt. Ypur boy scream loser, sorry.

  39. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    90 plus per cent lack confidence in Bowles coaching……I’m trying to find the other 10%…..not seeing it.

  40. Mark Reese Says:

    Just because a coach is a fantastic defensive coordinator, and I believe bowles was fantastic as defensive coordinator, that doesn’t mean they will make a great head coach (or even a good one)

  41. Mike S Says:

    Gholston’s salary number will keep him here likely one more season.

    I don’t know how they are going to get under the cap in time, but I don’t see how Donovan Smith survives cuts.

  42. Goatfarmer Says:

    A$$quatch — the Chiefs were missing both starting OTs and a backup OT. Mahomes had turf toe, and if not for a few amazing balls that banged off his receivers facemasks, that result looks a lot different.

    Blowes sucks and the proof is there through the results.

  43. SB~LV Says:

    Sorry I only made it a few sentences into the used car salesman pitch !

  44. NEfan Says:

    Goatfarmer, don’t downplay Reids son/assistant coach getting a dui and almost killing a 5yr old girl in a minivan the week before or that week of the SB, that would mess up a father/HC’s mind.

  45. Goatfarmer Says:

    Right on NEfan.

    And to your point about “on field leadership” — agreed. Players play and coaches coach. Blowes does a miserable job of ensuring his processes are defect free. So no surprise that Blowes would entrust Diva White rather than LVD with the headset in the first place, and then not make sure he knew under every situation how to communicate the play to his players. Giving a dumbazz the headset is not good coaching.

  46. NEfan Says:

    The former Kansas City Chiefs assistant coach and son of Andy Reid, Britt Reid, has been sentenced to three years in prison in a DWI case that seriously injured a young girl. Reid, in a guilty plea, admitted to driving under the influence and crashing into two vehicles near Arrowhead stadium in February 2021.

    Just prior to the SB!!!

  47. Goatfarmer Says:

    I meant to add, if Gholston is seeing visions, maybe he needs to try s better brand of peyote bud.

  48. Rod Munch Says:

    A very good defensive coordinator who shouldn’t be a head coach. I know Arians was trying to do him a solid by handing him a SB-caliber roster (and it was, Vegas had the Bucs as the odds on favorite to be in the SB), but Bowles was handed the title, but also didn’t have the power to make changes that were needed during the season, like firing Leftwich early on.

    Had Arians not done that stunt, and stuck around, Bowles would be in much better shape today. Let’s say this offseason both Brady and Arians retired, then Bowles would be taking over a team with very low expectations and would get a few years to build the team the way he wanted to build it.

    Arians, in the end, ended up screwing Bowles even though he certainly didn’t intend to do that.

  49. Goatfarmer Says:

    Rod Munch — on the money analysis.

  50. BucU Says:

    There was so much proof/data to overwhelming show that Bowles failed miserably over the course of the entire season. This team got progressively worse as the season went on. Not a good trend for a HC. 6-10 after the 2-0 start. There was literally nothing positive the entire season. One loss looked just like the next.
    Missed tackles after missed tackles. No enthusiasm. No intensity. No pride. 2022 was a disaster.
    And people ask why is there so much animosity towards Bowles. Because we had to sit there and endure a lost, undisciplined team week after week.
    I moved to Tampa in March of 80 and this may be the most dissapointing season in their history.

  51. NEfan Says:

    And screwed the Glazers, Licht, BL and the players in the process.

  52. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Rod Munch Says
    “A very good defensive coordinator who shouldn’t be a head coach.”

    I agree…but here’s the thing. We don’t know how good our new OC will be. If he turns out to be good, we would essentially be restored to a good situation…depending on off season moves.

  53. Redeemer Says:

    GF, how many times did we see white pinned inside, then the back of his jersey trying to run down a play. That’s on the coach, IMO. If a guy won’t do what he’s told, you sit him. IDC about his athletic ability, or what he’s paid. Playing time is the only way to get their attention at that point. Gap integrity was a problem all year, especially against good teams. When you can’t trust the guy with the green dot, your coaching ability should be questioned. Hundred percent agree

  54. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    NEfan Says
    “And screwed the Glazers, Licht, BL and the players in the process.”

    The man is old…we pulled him out of retirement to even get him. We’re lucky he was HC as long as he was.

    He didn’t screw anyone. You can bet everyone on that team knew it had to happen at some point, and they thought they were prepared for it. Injuries did far too much damage, combined with BL…who screwed himself.

  55. NEfan Says:

    Why is he very good DC again??? 60+ points given up in his last two playoff games. Over 30+ points agame to every team 500 or better in 2022, except Dallas which had the last laugh. Why again because of one game in 2020 where all the variables were stacked in his favor?

  56. Joe in Michigan Says:

    Goatfarmer rewrites history and the Bucs didn’t win the Super Bowl because of his detailed excuses. KC won, if it wasn’t for…”Add Goatfarmer excuses here”.

  57. Goatfarmer Says:

    Redeemer with another great take. I may have to christen a cool and refreshing beverage in hour honor right now!

  58. NEfan Says:

    Bonzai, Bucs had far more injuries in 2021. BA left Glazers & Licht high and dry when he decided to retire AFTER the draft and AFTER the hiring period for new coaches. He knew exactly what he was doing because his boys couldn’t land a HC gig so he gave one to Blows. That’s the facts Jack!

  59. Goatfarmer Says:

    Your honor, Redeemer. Sorry.

  60. Redeemer Says:

    GF, drink up my friend. Im having mai tais on this cold NE day

  61. Rod Munch Says:

    Buccaneer Bonzai – There is not a single indication that this is a good OC hire, getting a guy who was stuck in an organizational depth chart for 13-years, who has never called plays, who seemed to get demoted (went from QB coach, to passing game coordinator back to QB coach), it’s an extremely questionable hire.
    Then again all he has to do is be better than Leftwich, and that’s as low of a bar to hurdle as you can get.

    But I have nothing against the guy, I hope he does fantastic, I hope Trask takes a huge leap and looks like a star, that would be great. But I’m a lifelong Bucs who started following them when I was a kid in the 80s, which means I expect bad things to happen. That’s just part of being a Bucs fan being raised in that era. No number of SB’s is ever going to change that, although I’d love to see that point of view challenged.

  62. The Anomaly Says:

    Bonzai – seriously? Clinging to this hope that a career assistant that has never called plays…is going to be good with no QB? SMDH.

  63. Goatfarmer Says:

    And Joe in Michigan said Tom Brady was washed up and would be another failed signing to make a splash. Yep that boy knows himself some football!

    I didn’t say KC would have won. I said the result would have been different. Different score, closer game, probability of KC winning increased. I know subtleties can be difficult in the cold.

  64. Goatfarmer Says:

    This is hilarious.
    Joe in Michigan Says:
    March 12th, 2020 at 9:57 am
    I’ve had enough “splash moves” in my years as a Bucs fan to last me a lifetime, such as:

    Taking Steve Young instead of Reggie White in the 1984 supplemental draft (I’ve always loved pass rushers).
    Drafting Vinny Testaverde over Cornelius Bennett, and trading Young off for peanuts.
    Trading a 1st Rounder for Chris Chandler because Testaverde got blamed for losses, even though the rest of the team was terrible.
    Trading 2 1st Rounders for Keyshawn Johnson, even though it was known he was a locker room cancer.

    If signing Brady costs us not being able to sign some of our good players that AREN’T OVER THE HILL LIKE BRADY, this will be another possible “splash move” failure to add to the list.

    All caps no less!

  65. Rod Munch Says:

    NEfan – I don’t think Arians was doing anything nefarious, he said when he came to the Bucs in 2019 that he was only coming back to coaching to make sure Bowles and Leftwich both got head coaching jobs. I think Arians saw 2022 as the last chance to insure that he could hand off a team to Bowles and Leftwich and guarantee their success. Obviously we know the results.

    I do, however, believe it was out of good intentions. There certainly was no master plan in place to embarrass Bowles and Leftwich, Arians truly thought he was a no-lose situation, that he’d set these guys up for long careers and, perhaps on a personal level, the Arians coaching tree would be giant. But Bowles isn’t an HC, and Leftwich is literally an idiot who tanked any chance that Bowles might have had.

  66. Rod Munch Says:

    Goatfarmer – That’s a great find! LOL!

    I haven’t gone back to that timeframe yet, but my favorite were the people saying that we should have signed Bridgewater instead. They are out there, I absolutely remember reading it.

  67. LastDance Says:


    Funny last year they wouldn’t walk through paper for him and now running thru walls

    Big improvement since they got their axes handed to them by Dallas

  68. LastDance Says:

    Again… in case you missed it


  69. Joe in Michigan Says:

    Goatfarmer: I didn’t want Brady at first. After the Bucs signed him, I didn’t constantly whine about it like you do Bowles. I’m trying to help you out in life, nobody likes a whiny a$$ b!tch, like you’ve been on here every day. You’re welcome in advance.

  70. Just Leave Trask Alone Says:

    Maybe they just suck?

  71. David Says:

    He has gotten a lot out of the defense the last two years with a lot of injuries. I love him as a DC. The only way he will be successful as a head coach is by doing what Dungee did with Indianapolis, having a good quarterback and OC and staying completely hands off. I’m not sold that he was completely hands off this year. BL obviously had to go, it falls on him, but I really would like to know how much Bowles had to do with the O. If it was anything, hopefully he learned to leave it alone

  72. Aceofaerospace Says:

    I would love nothing more that to eat a barrel of crow at the end of next season. I will if I’m wrong. I just do see it happening. Fire Bowels.

  73. Goatfarmer Says:

    JoeInMichigan — you don’t like my constantly criticizing Bowels?


    I plan to continue until he is fired, or on the off chance that the sasquatch lottery hits and Bowels leads them to success, I will happily eat crow.

    If you don’t like it now, just wait.

  74. sasquatch Says:

    WillieG Says:
    February 18th, 2023 at 10:58 am

    He destroyed a championship offense trying to make his players adapt to his outdated run, run, run offense.

    First, they led the league in pass attempts. So that shoots your fundamental assertion out of the water.

    Second, let’s consider the multitude of other things that OBVIOUSLY impacted the offense.
    a) Brady drama, distraction, poor play
    b) Loss of Gronk
    c) Loss of 3 out of 5 offensive line starters
    d) Godwin still recovering from ACL
    e) The guy signed to be our #3 WR was slowed by hammy all year
    f) Julio was always hurt
    g) Lenny has lost a step
    h) Incompetent OC who lacked creativity and couldn’t adapt with Daddy Bruce

    So tell me again how Bowles’ supposed “run run run” philosophy destroyed our offense. Again, we led the league in pass attempts, and there were all these other variables that had obvious impact.

    You sticking with that nonsensical statement?

  75. sasquatch Says:

    The farmer just enjoys being a miserable prick to show how “right” he is.

  76. sasquatch Says:

    Assholes gonna asshole.

  77. BucsBeBack (Artist formally known as: BringBucsBack) Says:

    Situational awareness! That is what Bowles seems to lack. That final call in the Rams’ playoff game was called from an egotistical place, not a prudent one. Stafford killed our Bucs though multiple games when we blitzed and Bowles called it in the absolute least sensible moment; then is promoted to HC!? Throughout all of last season, Bucs’ opponents diced-up the defense when it needed to; on 3rd downs & with USFL QBs? That’s not “great”!

    Please, stop it with the “Super Bowl dominant performance” narrative. As some here remember, the Chiefs had a terrible offensive line with multiple backup players starting in the Super Bowl! Bowles defense doesn’t “dominate” the Chiefs if not for that reason.

    Someone, tell me why I shouldn’t change my name back to my original one?

  78. Couch Fan Says:

    RIght because no other coach has ever had to navigate through adversity. Oh the horror! Poor Bowles actually had to deal with injuries. WOW! Never seen that before. An old player wasnt very good? WOW! Never happened before.

    Keep making all the excuses you want for a garbage coach. Why you’re at it, make some good ones for next season to. You’re going to need them!

  79. HC Grover Says:

    The 2023 Bozo Bucs are going to be so awful that every team will be going after the. Losing to the Yucs will be unacceptable. 0-17 a perfect season for Bozo and the Yucs.

  80. mark2001 Says:

    The die is cast. We will see what he does next year. Hope it goes well.

  81. NEfan Says:

    sasquash, EVERY teams has injuries. That fact is the Bucs could not run the ball that is why the led in passing. The Bengals had a beat up line, they came one play from a potential second SB appearance. Why they could run the ball and their GM was smart enough to get veterans as their backup oline not rookies playing different positions. If your offense isn’t working FIX it, that’s what HC’s do. The O had the greatest success on the league in hurry up yet Bowles refused run and if that fell on BL, make him run it. Your QB, GOAT never conversed with the guy in game, what does that tell you? Brady took a nose dive because they couldn’t run, same as Mahomes in SB, the oline couldn’t protect him. Learn the game please!!!

  82. Redeemer Says:

    BucsBeBack, that season, Stafford had a 70% completion percentage and 1 int vs. the blitz. If that wasn’t enough, the Cardinals tried the same thing a week earlier. The last call was a microcosm of the entire game. Bowles was the man most responsible for that home divisional loss. It was a gameplan that gets guys canned. Instead he gets a promotion? Defending the indefensible entails pretzel twisting logic.

  83. Redeemer Says:

    NE, exactly. If they had just been a middling running team, instead of historically bad, it’s 11 wins all day. Brady did all he could, including those comebacks. Why these people can’t understand the simplistic is beyond me. Not to mention an offense that couldn’t and doesn’t scheme guys open.

  84. Whoolio? Says:

    Bowles as a defensive coordinator is above average. Bowles as a Head Coach is far below average. Players will not want to come to tampa to play for him. He is low energy on the sideline, almost to the point of looking like he doesn’t care or understand what is needed of a Head Coach. Much rather have a young coach like Sirianni that can build chemistry with the team.

  85. Joe in Michigan Says:

    Goatfarmer: I don’t remember a “Goatfarmer” from 3 years ago…Let me guess, you constantly bashed Bruce Arians when he was head coach, then changed your name after he won a Super Bowl. Maybe I’m wrong, I am sometimes, including the Bucs getting Tom Brady, but I think you were a “Realisto” type guy in the past.

    Do you think the Glazers are gonna read your comments and fire Bowles before the season? Do you hate Bowles so much that you’re going to root for the Bucs to lose? Maybe you’re one of those “tankers” for a higher draft pick, but I wasn’t trained to quit.

    Like I said (and mean), I wish the best for you, it’s not good to have so much negativity.

  86. Goatfarmer Says:

    Sasqueef does it again.

    Why did they lead the league in pass attempts? Because they would get behind trying to run the ball (and failing) and then have to pass, and, if you watched the carnage, lots of those were short passes to simulate a failed run game.

    Brady’ average yards per attempt were among the lowest in his career.

    Blowes oversaw the most egregious one-year destruction of a potent offense, maybe ever.

    Thanks Toad! Good luck serving milk and cookies after your football career ends soon .

  87. Goatfarmer Says:

    It’s ok JoeInMichigan. There’s these things, on the internet, called “search engines.” They even go back three years! And more!

    Tell me, was that your post calling Brady over the hill in all caps? If not, my apologies, but if it was, then STFU and put on a sweater.

  88. Goatfarmer Says:

    Sasqueef likes to grab the moral high ground calling others immature, and then uses potty language and name calling because that’s all the little one has left. Other than that really cute baseless hope.

  89. Steven007 Says:

    Joe in Michigan, well said. The thing about the trolls is they really do get off on trolling. I mean, obviously. Mentioning you hate the coach in a post about the coach is certainly acceptable. Doubling and tripling and quadrupling down, I just don’t understand the need or desire. Spewing hate about the coach and a post that doesn’t even have anything to do with the coach is even more ludicrous. But as you see it happens all the time. But…. Seeing their moniker “on the internet” and seeing people react to it gives guys like this a boner apparently. So bully for them. They post so much it’s clear they don’t have much of a life outside of their trolling. And so there you go keyboard warriors, have at it. Not that you need my permission.

  90. Couch Fan Says:

    I always find it comical when fans are more angry at other fans being angry than they are at the team for being terrible. Shake those PomPom bois.

  91. Steven007 Says:

    Couch fan, I hear what you’re saying. Now if you posted 10 more times about the same thing that’s kind of where I was going with my comment, not that you were directly commenting on that. You think I’m happy with our performance last year? Or super excited about our direction? No. But to spew nothing but negative stuff all day long on every post Joe posts isn’t the way I choose to live my life. Seems like I’m in the minority of the people who post here however.

  92. Joe in Michigan Says:

    Goatfarmer: Yes, the Brady thing was a bad take on my part. I didn’t change my name over it, like some of you.

  93. Couch Fan Says:

    Hey I think most would be happy to write something positive. But our Bucs havent given us anything to be positive about. “Not how I choose to live my life” is being over dramatic IMO. This is a bucs blog and Buc fans are posting their opinions, nothing more.

  94. Joe in Michigan Says:

    Steven007, the voice of reason!

  95. The Anomaly Says:

    @couch – well done!

  96. unbelievable Says:

    Well given our salary cap situation, this season will without a doubt be Bowles biggest challenge yet.

    Hopefully he’s ready to step up to the plate.

  97. NEfan Says:

    I think I have a boner!! Thanks for pointing that out Steven, must be the Irish curse. Not every day in live is dashes and rainbows. Grow up, it’s a conversation venue and it’s not always going to be positive.

  98. NEfan Says:

    Dasies, freaking autofill

  99. Goatfarmer Says:

    If you’re happy and you know it clap your hands! If you’re happy and you know it clap your hands! If you’re happy and you know it then your face will surely show it!!!

    If you’re happy and you know it clap your hands!!!!!!!

  100. Goatfarmer Says:

    I think Bowels looks really cool when he wears shades.

  101. The Anomaly Says:

    Kumbaya my lord…kumbaya!

  102. sasquatch Says:

    Goatfarmer Says:
    February 18th, 2023 at 7:36 pm

    I think Bowels looks really cool when he wears shades.

    Wow! That was really nice. How did that feel? 🤣

  103. Jeff Says:

    Clueless Todd!

  104. Larrd Says:

    So he is a great leader of one player who happens to need a job.

  105. Goatfarmer Says:

    Bowels will probably look great in those shades and make a lot of money in his next profession after he gets fired.

    How does that feel, sasqueen?

  106. mg Says:

    Bowles has had zero coaching highlights as a head coach in NYC and Tampa.
    The owners should have punted.

  107. BelleGladeBuc Says:

    I had a coach who said “Excuses are like @ssholes. Everybody has one, and they all stink. Anybody who makes an excuse is an @sshole.”

    I can’t stand the excuse making NEfan is making for why my beloved Bucs led by TB12 defeated Kansas City in the Super Bowl.

    NEfan apparently never heard that above statement from his time playing football. His coaches believed in excuse making.

    Nobody cares what excuse a team has for losing.

    Here’s another saying that NEfan doesn’t agree with, “Excuses are for losers.”

    Scoreboard is all anybody cares for.

    Here’s an excuse that is irrelevant that NEfan will never focus on.

    If Atlanta runs the ball three times and kicks a field goal and goes up by 11, forcing the Patriots to use all of their timeouts with less than 4 minutes to go in the 4th quarter, then the Falcons defeat the Patriots in the Super Bowl. HOF coach Tony Dungy and HOF coach Bill Cowher both said so during that Super Bowl.

    Here’s an excuse that is irrelevant that NEfan will never focus on, if Seattle runs the ball at the goal line with Lynch and Wilson on an option play, after Lynch just smashed the Patriots on two previous plays for over 20 yards and bringing the ball to the 2 yard line, then the Seahawks defeat the Patriots in the Super Bowl.

    Here’s another saying that NEfan obviously never was taught by a coach, “If if and buts were candy and nuts, then everyday would be Christmas.”

    The Bucs defeated the Chiefs in the Super Bowl because they were the better team.

    Any other statement against that fact is an excuse.