The Future Of The Bucs (Near-Term)

January 22nd, 2023

Curious contracts.

While Joe was looking up some Bucs contract information, Joe stumbled upon very interesting details that may shed light on whether the Bucs plan to keep Tom Brady for 2023 or move on.

Remember last year it seemed the Bucs were about to lose three key free agents, Carlton Davis, Ryan Jensen and Playoff Lenny? Those guys, at least Davis and Jensen, seemed like they had one foot out the door.

Then, just before the free agency dinner bell rang, Brady announced he was returning for the 2022 season.

Within hours, Davis, Jensen and Playoff Lenny re-signed with the Bucs. The point was clear: They wanted to continue their careers with the Bucs playing with Brady.

So while Joe was researching Playoff Lenny‘s contract, Joe noted an out clause after the 2023 season.

Then, out of curiosity, Joe looked at Davis’ contract. Then Jensen’s.

All three have an out-clause in their contracts after the 2023 season.

Coincidence? Joe doesn’t believe in coincidences.

So when Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht wrote up these contracts last spring, were those out-clauses included all with the idea that it was possible or maybe even likely Brady would play for the Bucs in 2023?

Think about it, if the Bucs were going to #CollapseForCaleb (without Brady), wouldn’t they have kept brutal failed offensive coordinator Byron Leftwich? If you are going to tank, wouldn’t you want rotten coaches?

Remember, Brady was already back with the Bucs when these guys re-signed. It makes Joe wonder if all three had heard from Brady that 2023 was on the table for him to return? Or possibly Licht knew?

This is all very interesting to Joe.

63 Responses to “The Future Of The Bucs (Near-Term)”

  1. SB~LV Says:

    Trade for draft picks , yeah that includes your favorite players.


  2. Capt.Tim Says:

    So much conversation about Brady’s future.
    As great as the GOAT has been, I thought Father Time caught up with him last year.
    If he returns to the Bucs, we are a much better team.
    But I believe we will still SUCK.
    Brady or no Brady.

    I think our focus should be the offensive and Defensive line.
    Both need improvement. That will be what determined how well the Bucs perform next year.

  3. Lt. Dan Says:

    Disagrees Joe about keeping Leftwhich as a guise for tanking. On the surface yea. That would have been a nice “cover” however, these dudes (professional athlete’s) are ultra competitive. You fire the waste and try to get better. Besides, who is to say that Caleb is “it”. So far, Mr. Irrelevant looks pretty dang good.

  4. stpetebucfan Says:


    I appreciate all your discussions about the future and salary cap implications.

    Perhaps we can get you or D.R. to investigate any rumors about what the next Salary Cap actually will be?

    Many, many reports have indicated simply that the new TV deal means a HUGE bump in the Cap but I have yet to see any numbers or even speculation on the number.

    Bottom line for me is we’re debating what we don’t even know. How do we know the Bucs are in Cap hell without even knowing the cap?

  5. NEfan Says:

    Bucs kept Bowles that should be enough to insure a tank without trying to tank. What this tells me, wherever Brady goes he’s taking Jensen.

  6. NEfan Says:

    The Bucs are in a world of hurt.

  7. #99 the Big fella Says:

    Let’s get younger and faster

  8. Goatfarmer Says:

    No need to read anything into those outs. It’s good business for the players to have those, and at the time they signed them if they knew that Blowes would be ruining the team’s performance, making 8-10 out of 13-5, the outs would have been for after the 2022 season.

    Blowes, by the time he is done with his wrecking ball, will have us saying things about Leeman Bennett, like maybe he wasn’t so bad after all.

  9. Beeej Says:

    Turns out Brady’s parents WERE at the game. They were waiting for him in the tunnel afterward

  10. RagingBrisket Says:

    Where are the reports of this team hiring a new OC? No one wants to come here if Brady isn’t going to be here and Brady definitely isn’t going to be here. Does anyone think Licht has what it takes to fix the ominous trajectory this football team is on?
    The Bucs turned into a pumpkin Monday night against the Cowboys and the future is very bleak with the leadership in the front and on the coaching staff. Buckle up.

  11. HC Grover Says:

    That was before Bowlzo ruined the team.

  12. SB~LV Says:

    once bitten, twice shy

  13. Hodad Says:

    Time to move on from Brady.

  14. brooks Says:


  15. NEfan Says:

    Putting the Brady groupie aside, I watched yesterday’s games and other than Mahomes, no QB stood out. The using your QB as an extension to your running game lasts only so long, these guys will be injured look at Jackson. Allen is a turnover machine, Burrow proved last week without an oline he struggles, Lawrence did nothing special, SF proved through scheming around their strengths they can win with any average QB and Jones is horrible. What is impressive is how Mahomes constantly tricks the LB’s and Db’s into thinking he’s running and once they bite he releases the ball. KC’s wr’s are trained to finish every play. It would be much easier to give Mahomes the 5yd gain. Whatever he’s a different breed. Tom will do just fine on a competitive team.

  16. Oxycondoms Says:

    Aaron rodgers would align with the remaining contract of these players

  17. Allbuccedup Says:

    Lefty sucked but he was the scapegoat Bowles is the head coach and responsible for the teams result.

  18. Infomeplease Says:

    For get Rodgers!!! He’s a loser!! Not a team guy!! All in for him only!!

  19. Infomeplease Says:

    The Bucs are in trouble unless they find a real head coach and OC!!

  20. Brandon Says:

    According to Over The Cap, Smith, Fournette, and Barrett can be cut and save us over $30 million. Brady’s owed money can be deferred to after June 1 and save us quite a bit as well.

  21. Buddha Says:

    Of course Light can fix it. He built this team.He drafted two Pro Bowl offensive lineman, got another in Free Agency and a dynamic pass Free Agency. His personnel record shows he is is one of the top five GMs in the league. I have a very good feeling about next year because expectations are going to be so low.

  22. Power of Pewter Says:

    Shaq Barrett’s cap hit for 2023 is $21,650,000 and if he’s released or traded there’s a dead money hit of $23,154,000. It will cost the Bucs an additional $1.5 m to let him go.

  23. BucsFan81 Says:

    Don’t really see how this proves Brady will come back. If anything this just proves that a lot of these guys signed because of Brady and if he doesn’t come back they are gone. Despite what idiot Bowles says this is really looking like a rebuild especially if Brady and a lot of these other players bounce. Fix the cap get younger and rebuild. No one wants to watch a repeat of this year with a bunch of has been old players that look slow.

  24. DungyDance Says:

    Infomeplease – well said. Would take a LOT to adjust to the idea of not hating Kaaron Rodgers.

  25. Joe Says:

    Perhaps we can get you or D.R. to investigate any rumors about what the next Salary Cap actually will be?

    It’s supposed to take a jump due to NFL Sunday Ticket contract but no one really knows because it’s based on NFL revenue which is not public information. Personally find salary cap chatter incredibly boring.

    Who is “D.R.?”

  26. SufferingSince76 Says:

    Give Brady a healthy, decent line and he can still get it done. You can still get younger in the other positions. Brady brings the players here. Period.

  27. Allbuccedup Says:

    It was great winning the superbowl with Brady but after that the team should have started a slow transition period for the future. But they kept throwing older free agents in to make another run which has failed two years in a row now. Bowles says reload with 23 free agents and minus 55 mil in the salary cap. Then he says next year will look totally different translation no playoffs top five pick.

  28. sasquatch Says:

    I’m over the Brady-related intrigue. Let’s move on. He’s done here.

  29. DRFEELGOOD Says:

    D. R. is Defense Rules Joe. He is the expert salary cap poster on this site. I have mad respect for his posts.

  30. alton green Says:

    sasquatch. I see you’ve been paying attention. You are right about one thing for sure; TOM IS DONE THERE. 100% guarantee. There is no way on this earth the Goat will play for those 2 morons. So don’t waist any more ink because, like you said “He is done” That was one of the biggest bait and switch i’ve ever seen. Year 1 with BA= SUPER BOWL
    Year 2 with BA = NFC Champ game
    Are you ready for this?
    Year 3 with Todd Bowles = 8-10 record. Tom never lost to Atlanta 11 straight. never lost to Dallas. 7 straight. Never had a losing record. Under Todd; 8-10

  31. Your Mom Says:

    I think that is reading too much into it. They were re-signed but probably all wanted an out if Brady was gone in one year instead of two.

    After all, he was going to book to Miami before if he could have gotten away with it.

    The bigger question, is Ryan Jensen gone too?

  32. Craig Says:

    First the Bucs need to find a viable OC to work under a losing coach. That is not going to be an easy thing to do.

    Might be best to tell Brady he can call his own plays and become OC in 2024. Maybe then he will start working with Trask.

  33. Defense Rules Says:

    Craig … ‘Might be best to tell Brady he can call his own plays and become OC in 2024.’

    Uhhh, if Brady wanted to be calling his own plays in 2020-2022, Lefty would’ve been gone & Tom would’ve been calling his own plays. Brady becoming the Bucs’ OC in 2024 is a good one Craig. IF he even plays in 2023(I doubt that he will), after that he’d have a choice of making $300 mil plus with Fox OR being our OC for a couple of mil. That wouldn’t even buy fuel for his boat or plane.

    Bucs’ fans need to move on. Tom Brady’s not coming back to the Bucs. And that’s a good thing IMO; the Bucs need to move on & tackle our problems head-on. We’ve screwed the pooch so bad that I’m guessing we won’t be relevant again until 2025, at the earliest.

  34. Rod Munch Says:

    I’m going to assume that part of the outs was just to get the deals done. I haven’t seen what Joe is referring to, but also it could be the team hedging its bets so if Brady didn’t return, they could designate these guys post-June 1st cuts and take half of the cap hits now and half in 2024, instead of the full cap hits in 2024.

    But the use of void years, is an accounting trick used a ton by the Bucs during this run, and it was very very wise to do so, otherwise they would have lost a lot of guys and this run would have ended after the 2020 SB. Some dummies might think that would have been a good thing, but you’d have to be really stupid to think the Bucs should have blown up the team in 2021.

  35. Defense Rules Says:

    DRFEELGOOD … Many years ago I had a friend who defined an expert as ‘someone from out of town’ (I agree with him). I live in Valrico (local) so no way that applies to me. Salary CAP info is well-documented & readily-available on Spotrac & on Over-the-CAP. Analyzing it is a piece of cake because it is so well-documented, BUT … it’s also a piece of cake apparently for ‘capologists’ to massage a CAP by pushing one or more aspects of a salary or salaries down the road. Our Federal Office of Management & Budgets (OMB) has also become quite adept at doing that on a much grander scale it appears.

    Kicking the can down the road is a cool technique in the short term, but in the longer term the bill comes due. And when it does, you seemingly have relatively little left to ‘buy stuff with’ (like free agents to fill holes in your roster?). If the Bucs aren’t there already this year, we’re getting mighty close.

  36. Bucamania Says:

    Bucs gonna have to suck it up in 2023. Time to pay up for kicking the salary cap can down the road. It was worth it, they won a SuoerBowl but it’s time to rebuild not reload.

  37. Rod Munch Says:

    Defense Rules Says:
    Kicking the can down the road is a cool technique in the short term, but in the longer term the bill comes due.


    That was always the deal with Brady, and a deal I was 100% fine with at the time, and still am.

    If Brady isn’t back this year, then you start the rebuild right now, there’s no reason to wait. If you Tank with Trask this year, take as many cap hits as possible, trade away anything you can that you know isn’t going to contribute 3-years from now, then you can hopefully get a quick rebuild done.

    For me, assuming Brady isn’t back, which is like 99.9999% certain, then you start cutting a bunch of guys post-June 1st (you have to do it that way since the Bucs already have so much dead cap for most of these guys they can’t take the full hit this year). But Donovan Smith, Fournette, Shaq Barrett, Jensen, Succop, you dump all of them. Then, the biggy, you strongly consider trades for Evans. Obviously, on top of all of this, you’re not resigning anyone, although I’d at least try to do something with Dean.

    Obviously you most valuable trade pieces overall are Wirfs, Winfield and White – and they’re all young enough that you should keep them, although trading Wirfs would be tempting since he should get you a giant haul (possibly 2 1st, but certainly a 1st and 3rd, probably a 1st and 2nd). Based on Licht’s history with offensive lineman, you figure he can find someone else that can play. Not in any way advocating for that, just saying it’s possible. As for White, I’d certainly keep him, but if his contract demands are insane, you could trade him, although I don’t think he’d get the return that most people assume, might only be a 3rd because of the contract. Winfield they need to keep at all costs, but again, if it’s a complete teardown, maybe, but I think he’s another Ronde can might play 15 years, so I’m not trading him to anyone.

  38. Ben Harvey Says:

    Doesnt an out clause mean if Brady doesnt return, they can void their contract with the Bucs and become FAs? I find this article confusing. If anything this says that the Brady is likely to move on and the conrracts were just set up to lessen the cap hit and spread money over a term.

  39. Marine Buc Says:

    Am I allowed to make a comment?

  40. Ben Harvey Says:

    Rod Munch, I normally agree with your posts, but you must be smoking something today. Trade Evans, Wirfs? Two likely HOFs out of the group! Evans is a Buc for life. Wirfs should be as well. If they trade anyone, Id be looking at Davis. Always injured and has a big contract. They could find an aging vet for now to replace him, while adding someone in future years should be the plan. Out of all the guys they should keep, Dean, Winfield, Wirfs, White (depending on progression). Guys Id be looking to dump, Fournette, d Smith, Davis, lavonte David remember may retire this year or next although Id keep him as long as possible, and perhaps Shaq Barrett. These are high priced aging vets that are beginning to let their play slip.

  41. Defense Rules Says:

    Marine Buc … ‘Am I allowed to make a comment?’

    Apparently you are, but only a very short one? (Been there, done that. It’s dark in Joe’s dungeon).

  42. Goatfarmer Says:

    The Bucs take an average of 12 years to rebuild to a playoff team. You don’t get rid of productive players just for the sake of change and we have known performers, versus unknown players who bust at a greater rate than they pan out.

    Let JL have his chance to reload the Bucs, give the Glazers a chance to conjure some magic with Brady, and see what happens.

    Now back to your regularly scheduled Toad’s Bowels bashing party,

  43. bob in valrico Says:

    If I understand it, this potential out gives the Bucs the chance to opt out of these contracts. so the team can cut them and take a much lesser cap hit.
    Does anybody else have info on this . Couldn’t find much on this but explanation was on Reddit. For instance if they don’t want to pay Lenny 8 Mil.
    they can cut him and only suffer 1.5 Mil. cap hit 2024.

  44. Redeemer Says:

    My philosophy is if you aren’t competing for Superbowls, you’re spinning your wheels. Truth is, the roster isn’t that good. The evidence is how they looked against good teams. Every team needs to reset the books. The window is closed. A retool won’t do it. They’re not close to competing with the class of the conference.

  45. Alstott up the gut Says:

    This team still has a lot of talent and much of it is still under contract next year. I guess I have an unpopular opinion but I hope there is a QB/OC plan that can take advantage of what we still have to offer.

    Shaq Barrett was probably the most significant loss this season as the pass rush was not the same without him. His return is critical to next year so I do not want to lose him!

  46. Defense Rules Says:

    Rod … I was also fine with what we did in 2020 & 2021 for Brady, but had lots of 2nd thoughts about going down that road again in 2022. After our 8-9 season, I know why.

    What’s important though is going forward, and the most urgent problem to deal with RIGHT NOW is creating a viable coaching staff. Contrary to some, I think we’re in an excellent position to hire a strong OC (IF Bowles falters in 2023, that OC would have a leg up on moving into the HC position in 2024?). My preference right now is Bill O’Brien (he just interviewed with the Patriots which tells me that he’s interested in getting back into the NFL game, and if Belicheck doesn’t hire him first, we could have a good chance of hiring him). Bowles also needs to hire a great DC though, or promote from within if say Larry Foote has shown talent along those lines).

    Beyond that, yes we need to get the salary CAP somewhat under control. We’ve currently got 47 players under contract, but about 15 of them are names I’ve never heard of (we recently signed a bunch of Practice Squad players to the roster). Of the 32 who were on the 2022 team, 3 are S/Ts, 18 were on offense & 11 were on defense. IOW, we have a lot more to work with on offense than we do on defense. Even worse, several of those 32 have almost no experience (Molchon, Russell, Chesley, Britt) and a several others performed at a level below their salary (Brate, Succop for starters?). Even still, the later 2 probably won’t be released because of their dead CAP penalty. (The gift that keeps on giving?)

    The 5 players you mentioned with void contracts (Brady, LVD, Hicks, Julio & Gholston) eat up a BUNCH of our 2023 salary CAP as of right now, but some of that can be mitigated. I’m convinced that Brady is gone, and we’ll have to eat that $35.1 impact (voided contract; can’t slide it to a subsequent year). I wouldn’t mind re-signing LVD, but not for an extravagant amount (we owe him $6.9 mil in voided contract & could massage that somewhat if we re-sign him). Same with Hicks (we owe him $4.9 mil, but his injury history doesn’t warrant a huge paycheck). We owe Julio $3.5 mil & I’d let him walk. We also owe Gholston $2.4 mil & I’d love to re-sign Big Will if his salary demands are modest so he can finish out his career as a Buc. He slipped somewhat this year, but he’s still a valuable rotational player (as is RNR).

    Beyond that, I can’t see us trading or releasing anyone because of their dead CAP implications (no trade partner will want to pick up their dead CAP & if we cut them, we eat it AND have to replace the position). We’re in much better shape come 2024 along those same lines, so my guess is that we’ll suffer through 2023 as best we can, assess what we’ve got for ‘affordable productive talent’ then move forward. Sure am hoping that we have a spectacular draft this year, but starting from the #19 slot doesn’t give me cause for much optimism.

  47. ModHairKen Says:

    Caleb is not good. He is a punk. And tanking to get a draft pick is stupid. Losers think that way. Jameis was the result of that mentality.

    Joe, if you really think that is a legitimate way to go, shut down the site and get a job.

  48. bob in valrico Says:

    And apparently erased from memory by at least one of the Joes.
    Any way am I right on the potential opt out situation. Sounds like a two year
    prove it contract to me, with injuries or performance being a consideration.

  49. Kalind Says:

    Don’t worry Joe, they’re still alllll set with terrible coaches. See Armstrong and Bowles. Just two off the to of my head. 1st pick isn’t out of reach for Bowles. ESP w worthless Kyle Trask.

  50. Redeemer Says:

    Defense is right, the only way to spread Brady’s hit is if he signed a one year base deal and planned on retiring. This way, the bucs could designated him a Post June 1 cut and spread it out over the next two caps. Of course if he comes back, same thing I believe. Again it would need to be a complete base salary deal. He isn’t coming back though. I’d be completely shocked. I think many of you are vastly overrating this roster. Maybe I’m wrong but I can’t see how they get much better. I guess with a new offense and a good QB, things could look better. Who’s out there though? Jimmy G, Baker. Not much else unless they draft a gem, which is incredibly hard to do. I say rip it down to the studs and keep drafting QBs til you find one.

  51. TampaBayBucsFanSince1976 Says:


  52. Big Z Says:

    More bad drafts. Does JL watch college football? I do and pass on a lot of quality players for cute gamble picks rhat could be had later in the draft.

  53. stpetebucfan Says:


    Thanks for the response on the cap. D.R. is Defense Rules. He is generally plugged into cap info.

  54. Joshua porter Says:

    Other than about 10 years in total this franchise has been tanking. Never really got them anywhere cuz the people in charge can’t pick that qb that has the “it” factor.

  55. Rod Munch Says:

    Ben Harvey Says:
    January 22nd, 2023 at 12:50 pm
    Rod Munch, I normally agree with your posts, but you must be smoking something today. Trade Evans, Wirfs?


    No, I’m NOT saying to trade them – BUT if you’re truly doing a ground up rebuild, that will take years, do you need a $20-million offensive lineman, and by the time you’re any good again Evans will be finished. With that said, I still wouldn’t do either move, but I’d understand it if they did.

    For Wirfs, look at the Dolphins as an example. They traded Laremy Tunsil to the Texans, they got two 1sts and a 2nd. They went from perhaps the worst team in football to one of the best up and coming teams, in part because they used those picks wisely. There is a model for trading someone as valuable as Wirfs – IF you got a giant return AND you’re being honest about the team and thinking you might not be competitive for many years. Even with that, I still wouldn’t trade him, but there is an argument for it.

    As for Evans, I love the guy, I want him to retire here, but I’m again just throwing it out there, that everything is on the table. I don’t know what you could get for Evans, I know people think at least a 1st, but that’s just not how the NFL works for a guy Evans age. BUT lets say a team, like the Packers, offered up a 1st and 3rd… The Bucs without Brady aren’t going anywhere anytime soon, and high picks is how you rebuild. That one would be really tough. But I really doubt you’d get an offer like that, so I don’t think we’ll have to worry about it. Godwin is young enough that you’d want to hang onto him for when you get your future QB.

  56. Rod Munch Says:

    Defense Rules Says:
    January 22nd, 2023 at 2:00 pm
    Rod … I was also fine with what we did in 2020 & 2021 for Brady, but had lots of 2nd thoughts about going down that road again in 2022. After our 8-9 season, I know why … Beyond that, I can’t see us trading or releasing anyone because of their dead CAP implications


    Well, keep in mind everyone was resigned when Arians was the headcoach, and this team isn’t 8-9 and knocked out in the first round if he had remained the coach. I know what Arians was doing, he was handing off a SB team to Bowles and Leftwich, putting them in a can’t lose position, except for Bowles and Leftwich are 3rd rate coaches. Actually, I take that back, Bowles is a good DC, a 3rd rate headcoach. Meanwhile Leftwich is a 6th rate OC.

    But I had, and have, no issues with the Bucs using every trick in the book to keep Brady here for as long as they possibly can. Once we goes, it’s back to the dark ages for the team, dark in terms of a national blackout and the team being completely unimportant.

    As for the trades – keep in the mind you can do post-June 1st trades. I believe you can ‘designate’ those trades post June 1st, so you can actually make them in March and get the pick and then take half the cap hit. The idea there is you want to take as much of the cap hit as you can afford this year, making your cap hit next year much lower. I’m just pointing it out as a possibility, I’m not expecting it by any means.

  57. Tony Says:

    Hopefully the future can mean we get new owners sometime soon.

  58. Tony Says:

    TRADE FOR BROCK PURDY! TRADE KYLE TRASK & BLAINE GABBERT FOR BROCK PURDY! Maybe they take that. Maybe all the shots Lynch took to the head might give him a day off & he might go through with this trade.😀

  59. steele Says:

    I think Joe is reading too much into these clauses. More likely, they were simply standard business decisions. But no surprise if they were hedging their bets that Brady would stick around one more season. The problem is, they have created a morass that no one (who wants a championship caliber season) would want to come back to. Starting with Mr. Bowles, and his incoming team of yes-guys, who will deepen HIS culture.

    But let’s say the lure for Brady is that they land Bill O’Brien as OC. Great. What on earth does he have to work with? The same problematic OL, even if Jensen is back. No feature back, just slow-mo Lenny and slow-mo Rachaad. Evans, who seems increasingly petulant and never great with Brady. Overpriced Julio, who should be dumped. Gimpy Gage. Godwin, ok. No Gronk, just Otton. Not an exciting list, and cap prevents and limits upgrades. But the main problem: Mr. Bowles. Why would he bring in any independent-minded OC to operate freely. The whole idea of the coach firings was to give Todd total control.

    I don’t see anything but trouble in 2023. They would be wise to begin major renovations (sticking point of course is Bowles), going through the whole roster and letting go any veterans who underperformed, failed to make impact, and/or mentally checked out.

    The QB situation is ugly. There aren’t many great ones in the upcoming draft. Another season with Brady will be just as problematic as the season just past, unless they revamp and upgrade the rest of the roster, and they can’t do it $. So it looks like it’s Trask time.

  60. JTHV Says:

    The team did the same thing to 2022 season ticket holders? You want them, you sign a contract for 2023 as well.

    2023 season tickets at the same price as having Tom Brady 2022 tickets.

  61. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    NEfan Says
    “What this tells me, wherever Brady goes he’s taking Jensen.”

    Wrong. Jensen has an out AFTER this coming season.

  62. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    It’s also possible they wanted an out in case Trask sucks.

    If Brady doesn’t return, as far as I’m concernered, this makes them trade bait. Jensen is a top-notch center. He could get us a later first or better. Davis might hook us a second.

    Finding a good center is always a challenge, that’s why Jensen would so much.

    So why trade him? Because if we are truly rebuilding…then trust Licht to do it with a line that can grow with the new, young QB.

    That said…if the Bucs decide not to rebuild and go all in again and retool for another veteran quarterback…well….we’ll at least need Jensen.

  63. TampaBayRudy Says:

    This team needs to drop Brady speculation. This team needs a strong free agency and a good draft, because so far, it doesn’t look like we want to win, since Bowles still has an office at One Buc Place. I say go after a coach like Mike Singletary, who can teach this team some grit and fire. Dennis Green would have been awesome; Eric Bieneme would also be a great choice on staff if we can’t get Bill O’Brien. You need to build a team from the coaches out.Dump any ego players and play some moneyball for now. I’ll bet we can get to the playoffs again and even take a shot at an NFC crown if we can get results from the new staff. No more hiring bozos, please 🙏🏻